Thursday, 2023-05-04

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khemRP: some distros e.g. archlinux have already upgraded to gcc13 and our existing uninative tarballs dont work with it all binaries using ld.so from uninative are segfaulting01:52
* khem disables uninative 01:52
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JaMakhem: I've built my own uninative with your gcc-13 upgrade and I'm using that (on gentoo with gcc-13 on host)05:48
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paulgThat explains why I thought I could smell something burning...  ;-P05:51
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mckoangood morning07:01
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rburtonRP: was that the xorg ppc thing?08:15
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX08:22
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TRO[m]I have trouble activating systemd for poky (and disable sysvinit) other than local.conf or in a new distro. I can not set it in a classes class and INHERIT it in local.conf.08:36
TRO[m]Is this supposed to work like this? Also I need to set INIT_MANAGER = "systemd" to configure it (that's not in the docs?)08:36
TRO[m](master branch)08:36
mckoanTRO[m]: https://wiki.koansoftware.com/index.php/Add_a_systemd_service_file_into_a_Yocto_image08:38
mckoanTRO[m]: section "Enable systemd in the final image"08:38
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rburtonTRO[m]: if you're using poky then INIT_MANAGER:forcevariable = "systemd" in local.conf will force it to use systemd.  if this is for production, don't use poky: make your own distro.08:40
TRO[m]mckoan: thank you - yes, in local.conf - since local.conf is only for LOCAL changes and should not checked in there should be a better way?08:41
TRO[m]rburton: yes, own class... will try the force thing08:41
rburtonthe proper way is to create your own distro08:41
rburtonand that can pick systemd08:42
TRO[m]yes, sorry mean distro...08:42
rburtonif you have your own distro then just INIT_MANAGER="systemd" in it will do the right thing.08:42
TRO[m]but still the INIT_MANAGER is not in the docs08:43
rburtonso it isn't. it's in the 3.0 release notes, but not the reference08:43
TRO[m]and not in koan wiki ;)08:44
rburtonmichaelo: fyi INIT_MANAGER is missing from the variable reference. Do you have a private todo list or should a bug be filed?08:44
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TRO[m]I mean the whole problem is that there is no way (other than local.conf and own distro) to set INIT_MANAGER before the poky.conf is parsed and require INIT_MANAGER (it will use POKY_INIT_MANAGER sysvinit then) - at least I do not know a way. IMHO if you inherit some global class it should be parsed first before parsing the distro.08:54
rburtonTRO[m]: sure there is08:55
rburtonTRO[m]: if you're using poky then set POKY_INIT_MANAGER instead. or use INIT_MANAGER:forcevariable.  Or write your own distro.08:55
TRO[m]I do not see any difference when using INIT_MANAGER:forcevariable or INIT_MANAGER when using bitbake-getvar -r core-image-minimal INIT_MANAGER08:57
TRO[m]in both cases poky.conf will parsed first and require POKY_INIT_MANAGER08:58
TRO[m]only change is to set it in local.conf, yes or own distro08:59
rburtonoh sorry missed the bit about a global class08:59
rburtonits a distro setting, should be in the distro08:59
d-s-eI try to build an application that creates code from protobuf files that is included during the build. The files are created in build/tmp/work/... which seems to be correct, but the compiler looks in build/workspace/sources/...09:19
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d-s-eWhat is the usual way to fix this?09:19
d-s-eMaybe developing in build/tmp/work/... could do it, but that seems not right.09:20
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rburtond-s-e: sounds like an out-of-tree problem. build files go into the build directory, so the makefile needs to know to look there and not the source tree.09:26
rburtoni'm guessing the app is using autotools?09:26
d-s-ehmm, CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR is set to the workspace. I thought, that the sources are copied to tmp/work before the build and everything is done there. But maybe I did get that wrong.09:26
d-s-ecmake09:27
rburtonah cmake. not sure how to fix that but the bug is  almost certainly in the cmakelists, looking in source not build tree.09:27
perceval[m]Hello all,09:27
perceval[m]I'm strugling with linux-intel recipe that does not take my config fragment that I've put in my own layer under recipes-kernel/linux/files and added to linux-intel_5.4%.bbappend file in SRC_URI and I set FILESEXTRAPATHS.09:27
perceval[m]I saw that linux-intel require recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto.inc so fragments should be handled correctly :s09:27
perceval[m]do you have an idea on what is going on?09:27
perceval[m]and how to fix that :)09:28
mckoanperceval[m]: are you sure you are using linux-intel_5.4? and how's your recipe?09:30
rburtonalso how do you know its not being used? if your turning on a kernel module then you'll also need to install the module.09:31
d-s-erburton: seems so. I think it depends on the variables CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR/CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR/CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR in the cmakelists, the latter is set correct, the others not. But I don't know, where the values come from ...09:32
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perceval[m]mckoan: yes I'm sure I set the prefered kernel in my distro configuration09:55
perceval[m]My recipe is like that https://wtf.roflcopter.fr/paste/?d5b31e99f39c4a9d#97QzEWdKSYaAStsePe2Pyyws3uKBeBo6zkYzLv8jwvVK09:55
perceval[m]rburton: what do you mean, kernel modules are not handled automatically by the build if it is in the config?09:56
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mckoanperceval[m]: and do you have .ko files in /lib/modules ?10:25
rburtonperceval[m]: i mean just because a kernel build a module doesn't meant it gets installed in the rootfs10:39
perceval[m]Yes I have .ko files in /lib/modules10:49
perceval[m]my problem is that when I check the config file in my work directory linux-intel/5.4.193.../image/boot/config-5.4.193-intel-pk-standard, the configs fragments are not applied10:51
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mckoanperceval[m]: what is the output of : bitbake -c kernel_configcheck -f virtual/kernel12:16
perceval[m]nothing12:18
perceval[m]NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 447 tasks of which 444 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded.12:18
perceval[m]Summary: There were 4 WARNING messages shown.12:18
perceval[m]the warning are due to my edition to debug what is going on12:18
perceval[m]s/warning/warnings/, s/edition/editions/12:18
mckoanperceval[m]: verify the recipe tree, something like this https://wiki.koansoftware.com/index.php/Modify_the_linux_kernel_with_configuration_fragments_in_Yocto12:23
mckoanperceval[m]: and in case you may read this: https://wiki.koansoftware.com/index.php/Add_a_debug_banner_in_a_Yocto_recipe12:27
perceval[m]Yes I've done exactly what the first articel says12:28
perceval[m] * Yes I've done exactly what the first article says without any success12:29
perceval[m]thanks for the debugging tip ;)12:29
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ecdheI'd like to switch to `kas' from a homebrew makefile solution.  My makefile would clone layer repos and checkout the correct branches/commits (which `kas' handles nicely) but my makefile would also download a gzipped archive of my build/downloads/ directory and unpack it.  Is there a way to get 'kas' to run this step?13:31
ecdheSince 'kas' downloads layers, I wondered if I could provide a pre-populated downloads directory through a layer.13:31
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JaMaecdhe: maybe take this opportunity to set regular PREMIRROR and let bitbake fetcher do it's job better, instead of fetching whole downloads directory before the build13:33
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rburtonyeah, agreed. make that tarball a proper mirror and you'll be good to go.13:37
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rburtonif you want a way for offline builds then a kas overlay that just does a fetchall will be trivial13:37
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ecdheThe premirror looks like I need to know the original URL and then host the file at some variant of it13:39
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rburtonif your tarball is good for DL_DIR then it's most of the way towards being a premirror13:40
ecdheI'm trying to count the files now but it seems like a lot of work to get these all moved into a directory structure that a PREMIRROR can seamlessly fetch.13:40
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ecdherburton: so there's hope?13:40
rburtonthe only difference is that git clones are in tarballs13:40
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rburtoneasiest way is to refetch the world with BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS="1" set13:41
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ecdherburton: this is fine but some of the sumo assets are not longer hosted13:41
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ecdhesorry for using sumo13:42
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rburtonuse the yocto mirror, or your own existing dldir as a premirror13:42
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ecdheI like that idea13:42
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rburtonif external tarballs have moved (which does happen), i'd recommend fixing the recipes to get the right tarballs instead of relying on a mirror13:43
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JaMapremirror is most useful recently for those upstream git repos deleting and renaming branches, yes it should be fixed in recipes, but with premirror it at least wont start failing a day before release and you can fix it when you have time13:57
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ecdherburton: the payoff for me is if I can trigger a yocto build from a singal command in a uninitialized environment I can move the job to a threadripper... kernel builds are sub 30 seconds there as opposed to 30 minutes on my i714:18
JaMasub 30 seconds? either your defconfig is very short or you have some special threadripper :) my 3970 linux-yocto*/do_compile14:21
JaMaElapsed time: 104.90 seconds14:21
JaMaplease share your results with https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time once your threadrippe reaches this dimension14:23
ecdhedefconfig was definitely smaller, my target lacks USB ports for instance so I don't have to build any drivers for that.14:27
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qschulzLetoThe2nd: 'grats on the new role :)16:22
qschulzndec_: thx you for everything you did. hope to see you around every now and then still :)16:23
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LetoThe2ndqschulz: thx!16:58
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khemJaMa: ok17:21
khemRP: can you also cherry-pick https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/commit/?h=yoe/mut&id=382d7c4a8a45c46cd49f9ba4741b370f046cc776 into master-next ?17:21
khemgcc-13 patch depends on it, it will make me switching branches easier17:22
khemhutchman: so far so good 🙂17:26
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eddy_Hi, I have a question: How can i specify a buildtime dependecy for kernel modules in yotco?  I have module A that has a header with functions that are exported and a module B that shouldbe able to include the header. I cannot find anything in the docu about kernel module dependencies19:36
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rfs613eddy_: typically each module would have two recipies, one to install the header, and one to build the module. Then you can set the dependencies of B on the headers provided by A.19:40
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eddy_rfs613:  thx! ahhh okay that makes sense is there a specific template for the this header install recipe? like `inherit headers` or so?19:43
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rfs613eddy_: offhand I don't know ;-)19:44
rfs613but i see nothing special in https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-kernel/cryptodev/cryptodev-linux_1.12.bb19:45
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rburtoneddy_: just make the recipe install headers into the sysroot as usual, and then depend on that recipe19:45
rburtona recipe installing headers is just a recipe installing headers, nothing special to do just because its a kernel module19:46
rfs613i suspect you don't need separate packages, just have B depend on A would probably work19:46
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rfs613to continue the previous example, cryptodev-module then has DEPENDS += "cryptodev-linux"19:47
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eddy_thanks i try it out :)19:58
nerdboyso i masked gcc-13 and rebuilt full toolchain set with gcc-12 and yocto seems happy again20:06
nerdboy*at least as happy as before on meta-tegra kirkstone lts branches20:07
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zelgomerwith reference to the downloads dir, how is bitbake supposed to handle name collisions, such as when two recipes have a SRC_URI that fetches different files from different hosts but with the same base filename?20:18
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marexrfs613: btw why use cryptodev and not afalg ?21:06
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RPkhem: no, I'm not cherry-picking that. It is wrong21:19
mischiefbuild failure in gcc cross in kirkstone http://ix.io/4uUb is this a race in gcc's build system?21:21
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vmesonmischief:  I don't think so, see your log: ../../../../../../work-shared/gcc-11.3.0-r0/gcc-11.3.0/gcc/c/gimple-parser.c:381:1: internal compiler error: Bus error21:36
vmesonit's the first match when searching for "error:"  which works > 98% of the time.21:37
ecdheLetoThe2nd: where is your new position?21:40
vmesonIs an ICE: Bus error usually bad hardware as suggested by Google ?21:42
mischiefah, heck. i checked the kernel log and there are memory hw errors, and i also checked the ec2 console and got a message about the hw being retired :)21:46
mischiefi just made a new instance, so let's see how that goes21:47
mischiefi'm trying to evaluate if a new instance type can make our build faster21:47
vmesonmischief: cool. We don't want any real rare ICE toolchain errors to track down!21:47
mischiefso i'm just spinning up instances and building poky with default settings21:47
vmesonmischief: that'll be interesting data.21:49
mischiefc7g.metal (graviton3) did a build in ~15 minutes21:49
mischiefnow i try c6gd.metal (graviton2) which has local nvme21:50
mischiefthe problem is we build multiple MACHINEs in parallel without multiconfig and some people complain it takes too long21:51
mischiefi wonder if it would be better to just have a smaller instance per MACHINE instead of big beefy instances with parallel builds inside21:51
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khemRP: OK then I can drop it. Sadly it will need gcc 13 patch conflicts to be resolved22:39
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