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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:55 |
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| rburton | RP: ah, yeah, our master branch is still mickledore. we'll branch today :) | 08:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: mickledore is freeze but not released yet, right? | 08:37 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: it was approved by the TSC so it will release now | 08:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | ah ok | 08:37 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:57 |
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| rich1234 | Is there a summary for the syntax change from dunfell -> kirkstone for things like `IMAGE_INSTALL_append ` anywhere? | 10:43 |
| mckoan | rich1234: https://wiki.koansoftware.com/index.php/Override_syntax_change_from_Yocto_honister_3.4 | 10:44 |
| rich1234 | Cheers, thanks | 10:44 |
| RP | rburton: I reverted piglit: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/107/builds/4519/steps/13/logs/stdio :/ | 10:48 |
| RP | rburton: -sato pased, sato-sdk failed | 10:48 |
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| rburton | RP: very odd and also appears to be intermittant | 11:27 |
| RP | rburton: yes :( | 11:33 |
| RP | JPEW: I merged a tweak to meta-mingw since testing showed it resolved the issue on the AB | 11:34 |
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| RP | rburton: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/63/builds/7015 - gah, something recently merged in master :( | 12:11 |
| RP | rburton: I merged everything except qemu hoping to isolate it | 12:11 |
| RP | rburton: InitInput makes me wonder about your recent input upgrade | 12:12 |
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| linex[m] | hello, | 12:37 |
| linex[m] | If I set two variables in 2 different layers, does bitbake override with the one that has most priority ? | 12:37 |
| linex[m] | * hello, | 12:37 |
| linex[m] | If I set the same variable in 2 different layers, does bitbake override with the one that has most priority ? | 12:37 |
| linex[m] | The variable in question is a PREFERRED_PROVIDER | 12:37 |
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| mckoan | linex[m]: yes | 12:42 |
| mckoan | linex[m]: however depends where and how you are setting it | 12:43 |
| rburton | linex[m]: you can use bitbake-getvar [variable name] to see the assignment history and how bitbake got to the final value | 12:44 |
| linex[m] | Okay thanks, yeah this was confusing me since it was taking the one with lesser priority | 12:45 |
| linex[m] | hmm bitbake-getvar wasn't that much more helpful | 12:48 |
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| rburton | where are you setting the variable? | 12:49 |
| paulg | 0: rust-native-1.68.2-r0 do_install - 27m15s (pid 27076) | 12:52 |
| paulg | what in the hell is rust-native doing during the install!?! | 12:52 |
| rburton | building | 12:52 |
| rburton | you'll notice that the compile step was very short | 12:53 |
| rburton | if you do compile then install, rust rebuilds itself in install :) | 12:53 |
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| paulg | No. The compile wasn't short. It took also at least 1/2 hour. | 12:53 |
| rburton | oh you might have a sha before the fix to stop it building in compile too | 12:54 |
| rburton | oe-core 7d805f9a9f6b5048308a37a2757d08cca40b1ff3 | 12:54 |
| paulg | I pulled/updated everything a couple hours ago... | 12:54 |
| rburton | hm, resume standard griping a rust then :) | 12:55 |
| paulg | on a positive note, I've enabled some of the BB_PRESSURE settings. | 12:55 |
| paulg | And now at least rust doesn't OOM my lame arse crap at home anymore. | 12:56 |
| paulg | It still runs into rust-native like a brick wall, but at least it doesn't keep forking jobs and then catch fire. | 12:56 |
| linex[m] | <rburton> "where are you setting the..." <- in distro/conf and in an image recipe, the distro seems to take precedence | 12:57 |
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| rburton | preferred provider has no meaning in an image recipe | 12:57 |
| linex[m] | I also tried in local conf | 12:58 |
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| linex[m] | but the distro seems to take precedence over that. | 12:59 |
| linex[m] | I just set it temporarily in the image recipe , it does not belong there indeed | 12:59 |
| rburton | getvar will show why the distro won over the local | 13:03 |
| linex[m] | yep :) | 13:07 |
| linex[m] | I found that machine/conf will win over that ! | 13:08 |
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| RP | rburton: I'm running tests with the libinput upgrade reverted | 13:12 |
| RP | rburton: if I get these three qemuppc builds passing with that, I'm going to blame libinput | 13:13 |
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| mckoan | linex[m]: you can't set PREFERRED_PROVIDER in an image file | 13:21 |
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| kanavin | paulg, you probably saw do_compile of rust-llvm-native, not rust-native | 13:24 |
| kanavin | rust doesn't do separate build/install steps | 13:25 |
| paulg | kanavin, I'm thinking you could be right. I'll watch more closely next time. | 13:25 |
| rburton | paulg: try buildstats-summary :) | 13:26 |
| paulg | rburton, the slow arse POS still hasn't finished yet. :) | 13:27 |
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| rburton | it will show you data for in-progress builds as the files are written incrementally | 13:27 |
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| paulg | ...or it will remind me of one of my pet peeves of fragmented python crap. | 13:29 |
| paulg | File "/home/paul/poky/scripts/buildstats-summary", line 9, in <module> | 13:29 |
| paulg | import dataclasses | 13:29 |
| paulg | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'dataclasses' | 13:29 |
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| rburton | do you have a very old python? | 13:30 |
| paulg | 18.04 ubu turd using the python from buildtools | 13:31 |
| paulg | Speaking of... Can we put rust into buildtools? :-P | 13:32 |
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| paulg | oh well. Doesn't matter. I'm not building anything I need. Just to see what is broken after a pull, and since the home office is a bit cool on this damp rainy day. | 13:35 |
| rburton | hm i wonder why that didn't include dataclasses | 13:35 |
| rburton | buildtools includes the full bundle, in theory | 13:35 |
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| d-s-e | dataclasses where introduced in python 3.7, maybe ubuntu 18.04 has an older version? | 13:42 |
| kanavin | paulg, an option to shortcut rust-native madness would be welcome, so... patches welcome :) | 13:42 |
| * paulg volunteers vmeson | 13:42 | |
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| kanavin | ubuntu 18.04 goes EOL at the end of this month | 13:44 |
| paulg | d-s-e, python3 from the buildtools/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/python3 claims it is 3.10 | 13:44 |
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| paulg | kanavin, actually I think it went EOL two days ago. | 13:44 |
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| kanavin | paulg, I think it's been extended by one month :) but give or take that, upgrade in any case please | 13:45 |
| JaMa | I have some 18.04 builders with buildtools for newer python and haven't seen this issue yet | 13:45 |
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| d-s-e | ok, seems it got a python update somewhere in the past. but 18.04. is really outdated anyway. | 13:48 |
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| paulg | I know, but old machines with "low" memory suffer every time you upgrade. | 13:49 |
| tgamblin | paulg: sounds like it's time to roll your own distro with Yocto :) | 13:49 |
| paulg | tgamblin, ha - been there, done that. | 13:50 |
| RP | paulg: I can't help thinking himem.sys would help with that low memory | 13:50 |
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| paulg | RP, I loaded EMM386.EXE already, isn't that good enough? | 13:51 |
| kanavin | https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=akanavin/package-version-updates | 13:51 |
| kanavin | I think I deserve a cup of tea now | 13:51 |
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| RP | paulg: clearly it isn't helping with rust! Trying changing the ordering | 13:54 |
| * RP is suffering flashbacks :/ | 13:55 | |
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| paulg | outside of downloading freedos to make a BIOS update USB turd, I'm trying to think when I would have last fought with DOS crap... | 14:00 |
| RP | paulg: definitely been a while for me, I just remember it all too well | 14:01 |
| paulg | Probably Win 3.1/DOS-6.2 computers of relatives from 20+ years ago? | 14:01 |
| paulg | The sad part is, that if I somehow was sat in front of one of those ancient crappers, I'm sure a lot of that useless information would come flooding back. | 14:03 |
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| paulg | did windows95 still have DOS and highmem.sys lurking under the surface? | 14:05 |
| paulg | I just seem to remember Win-3.1 being the last release where DOS and windows were truly separate products. | 14:06 |
| paulg | anyway, enough off-topic rambling. I blame RP for the distraction. | 14:07 |
| JaMa | I think it was still in win98SE | 14:09 |
| kanavin | JaMa, windows me | 14:10 |
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| kanavin | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Me | 14:10 |
| JaMa | possibly, I never had ME | 14:11 |
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| RP | paulg: it is scary to think about those times. Windows 3.11 for workgroups | 14:19 |
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| RP | rburton: those test builds are doing fine, it is looking like libinput | 14:21 |
| JaMa | everything you need on just 8 floppy disks :) | 14:21 |
| rburton | i wonder what libinput did | 14:21 |
| RP | JaMa: wasn't that slackware? :) | 14:22 |
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| paulg | RP, awesome, wasn't it? You had to pay extra to get a networking stack. | 14:22 |
| RP | paulg: it was great at the time. You didn't always have a network anyway | 14:23 |
| * RP is still distracting paulg | 14:23 | |
| paulg | instead you had a parallel port dot matrix printer! | 14:24 |
| RP | paulg: er, have. Or perhaps I'm not admitting to that | 14:24 |
| paulg | I wonder if anyone still makes tractor feed paper? | 14:25 |
| rburton | i saw some recently! | 14:25 |
| * RP did buy a USB parallel port adaptor so I could work with some old stuff (microcontroller programmer) | 14:25 | |
| paulg | probably costs a fortune if they do. Selling to 1980s nuclear reactor sites and the like. | 14:26 |
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| kanavin | the reason I chose red hat over debian in 1998 is that I was a cash-starved student back then, and a computer shop offered me red hat on 1 CD or Debian on 6 CDs, which would be 6x more pricey | 14:28 |
| kanavin | so debian's tendency to package everything ever backfired in this case :D | 14:28 |
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| JaMa | I've started on Corel Linux just because I got it for free | 14:31 |
| JaMa | but with 860MB disk and no access to internet it didn't last long | 14:32 |
| kanavin | oh, their attempt to make a windows competitor | 14:34 |
| kanavin | I barely remember, it lasted a couple of years maybe? | 14:35 |
| rfs613 | it eventually morphed into Xandros which is apparently still a thing today | 14:41 |
| rfs613 | actually no, it looks like it is no longer active | 14:41 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | big problem building nginx with DAV module inside centos-7 Docker https://pastebin.com/0sdgQs70 | 14:56 |
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| rburton | DvorkinDmitry: broken upstream configure, you'll need to figure out how to stop it looking in /usr | 15:11 |
| JaMa | DvorkinDmitry: even dunfell uses newer nginx, so try it with some supported release and backport whatever is needed if you have to stay on old unsupported release | 15:11 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | Jama, I see ./meta-openembedded/meta-webserver/recipes-httpd/nginx/nginx_1.17.8.bb ./meta-openembedded/meta-webserver/recipes-httpd/nginx/nginx_1.16.1.bb in my dunfell. I'm building 1.16... | 15:14 |
| JaMa | does it work with 1.17.8? | 15:14 |
| DvorkinDmitry | rburton, I replaced /opt/local/... case it was not able to find libxslt/parser.h with default settings in Docker. On my host system it is OK | 15:15 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | JaMa, nginx 1.17 - result is the same | 15:20 |
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| paulg | rburton, buildstats mystery solved. https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/180832 | 15:59 |
| paulg | I still don't know how to use the damn tool, but at least in theory I can run it. :) | 15:59 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | I found the problem. Nginx ./configure wasn't able to find the copy of the libraries on the HOST ! Why the check is so ugly... | 16:21 |
| DvorkinDmitry | so to be able to pass the ./configure checks you need to have libxslt libs on your host, not inside recipe-sysroot only | 16:23 |
| RP | paulg: looks like WR are mangling your list email :( | 16:24 |
| paulg | I'm so shocked. | 16:24 |
| * RP wonders about teaching paulg how to send a patch | 16:25 | |
| * RP hides | 16:25 | |
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| paulg | I need to just move to my kernel.org address and stop trying to battle broken corporate nonsense. | 16:25 |
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| RP | we have a FAQ for fixing this that I can never find | 16:26 |
| paulg | The patch is trivial so I'm sure someone can manage to apply it w/o me re-sending. | 16:26 |
| rburton | paulg: wtf i wonder why i didn't notice that (i started the summary tool by copy-pasting the diff tool) | 16:27 |
| paulg | I actually used git-send-email on that, believe it or not. | 16:27 |
| rburton | RP: the faq doesn't work: my list mail gets mangled and i have a from set | 16:29 |
| RP | paulg: https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded#Fixing_your_From_identity | 16:30 |
| RP | rburton: try the above? | 16:30 |
| RP | paulg: the issue is the From address gets mangled by the list due to the DMARC policy of the WR servers | 16:31 |
| RP | or was it the other thing to DMARC, anyway, that kind of thing | 16:31 |
| rburton | $ git config --get sendemail.from | 16:31 |
| rburton | Ross Burton <ross.burton@arm.com> | 16:31 |
| paulg | yeah, DMARC poo or whatever the abbreviation -- was turned on like 10d ago. | 16:31 |
| RP | rburton: when it writes out the patch, does it add a From: at the top? | 16:32 |
| RP | if not, the FAQ is wrong :/ | 16:32 |
| rburton | From 0ef68f5c068ecec8506849329d595f73cbb09a6d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 | 16:32 |
| rburton | From: Ross Burton <ross.burton@arm.com> | 16:32 |
| RP | rburton: in the body of the message rather than as a header? | 16:33 |
| rburton | that was the first two lines of the git-format-patch output | 16:33 |
| RP | The idea is to inject From: at the start of the body so when git am pulls it, it gets the address right and then we don't care about what the mailing list does | 16:33 |
| rburton | right | 16:34 |
| rburton | my mails on the list don't have a from in the body | 16:34 |
| RP | abelloni: happen to be around and able to remember how to do this? | 16:34 |
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| rburton | git adds a From: to the _body_ if the from doesn't match the sender | 16:37 |
| rburton | can't see a way to force it to do that always | 16:37 |
| RP | rburton: someone did have a trick for this :/ | 16:38 |
| paulg | never ceases to amaze me how we've managed to complicate 1980s technology e-mail into a crippling hideous frustrating morass... | 16:41 |
| RP | paulg: it is a shame we can't just telnet to port 25 and type the mail... | 16:42 |
| paulg | Make E-mail Great Again. :-P | 16:42 |
| * paulg is guilty of telnet ... 25 and typing HELO | 16:43 | |
| * RP used to test email servers by sending complete emails via telnet | 16:43 | |
| RP | paulg: would be fun to crosswire that with chatGPT. HELO might get a "Good afternoon" reply | 16:44 |
| abelloni | rburton: just put ross.burton@arm.com in sendemail.from | 16:46 |
| rburton | ok i'll try that | 16:46 |
| abelloni | it will figure out the name | 16:46 |
| abelloni | the display-name | 16:47 |
| paulg | wonder if chatGPT can parse sendmail.cf files. I'm sure I lost days of my life trying to do so around 1993. | 16:48 |
| rburton | aha | 16:49 |
| RP | paulg: I still run my system through sendmail | 16:49 |
| rburton | so i think git is sufficiently dumb that that works | 16:49 |
| rburton | the list says via still, but the body now has a From: header | 16:49 |
| rburton | obviously git is just doing a strcmp and not parsing the address | 16:49 |
| RP | rburton: can you please update the wikis to make this clear please? | 16:49 |
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| rburton | done | 16:52 |
| khem | nerdboy: We have patches under test for gcc 13 | 16:53 |
| RP | rburton: thanks | 16:53 |
| RP | abelloni: thanks, mystery solved | 16:58 |
| RP | rburton: btw, your emails were displaying correctly for me. There is something odd where the list corrupts your own emails always | 16:58 |
| RP | rburton: so I see my own as corrupted but others are fine, others see mine fine | 16:59 |
| * paulg follows the discussion an dutifully puts ross.burton@arm.com in his sendemail.from field. | 16:59 | |
| rburton | RP: huh | 16:59 |
| RP | paulg: it would be funny if you did sent that | 16:59 |
| RP | er, had | 17:00 |
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| RP | rburton: michael did try and explain it to me but in the end we agreed I'd just live with it | 17:00 |
| rburton | RP: ah so maybe i should have ignored the list mail i was seeing | 17:01 |
| RP | rburton: that is what I do, yes | 17:01 |
| RP | rburton: I'd not seen any issue with your patches | 17:01 |
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| whuang0389 | Hi has anyone seen this before during the unpack step? "No up to date source found: clone directory not available or not up to date ... shallow clone not enabled" | 17:14 |
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| RP | paulg: I hate to ask you this. Do you know if the G4 powerpc cpu we use in qemu should have the mffscrni instruction? Should gcc be generating that instruction for the 7400 tuning we're using? | 19:10 |
| RP | paulg: basically libinput is segfaulting due to mffscrni being present in sincosl in libm.so | 19:11 |
| RP | paulg: I'm wondering how to blame. | 19:11 |
| RP | khem: ^^^ if you've any ideas? | 19:12 |
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| khem | that seems like a ppc10 ISA instruction | 19:17 |
| khem | is it coming from some assembly in libm ? | 19:18 |
| RP | khem: good question | 19:19 |
| RP | khem: if it is I can't spot it easily | 19:21 |
| khem | no I am wrong. its ISA 3.0 so should work | 19:21 |
| khem | wait to its ok on qemu but not on real h/w | 19:23 |
| khem | I see some patches to qemu from Jun 2022 which implemented it | 19:24 |
| khem | it certainly is possible that for 7400 machine we are emulating its not enabling ISA 3.0 for sure | 19:24 |
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| * paulg has nothing useful to add, other than we shouldn't still be building/using 7400. | 21:07 | |
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| RP | paulg: what should we be using? | 21:10 |
| RP | As far as I can tell. glibc is emitting a mffscrni instruction from C code for s_sincos.c regardless of which -mcpu I pass it | 21:12 |
| RP | even for power4 and other old stuff | 21:12 |
| paulg | maybe an abacus or a slide rule? | 21:12 |
| * RP has one of the latter, perhaps if I find that I'll understand why this is breaking | 21:14 | |
| RP | hmm, the assembler is intersting. .machine push; .machine "power9"; mffscrni 0,0; .machine pop | 21:26 |
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| Nostromo8 | I've been using the Yocto Kirkstone branch and I noticed the default GCC Version is set to 11.3.0. Is the recommended Ubuntu version for Kirkstone 22.0.4 or can it support older versions? | 21:34 |
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| * RP is going with libc bug from https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1c56cdff09f650ad721fae026eb6a3651631f3d :/ | 21:45 | |
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| RP | or perhaps qemu doesn't understand it is supposed to fall back :/ | 21:49 |
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| paulg | RP, my solution was better | 22:11 |
| paulg | https://lore.kernel.org/all/168251050528.3973805.17729292959247213914.b4-ty@ellerman.id.au/ | 22:11 |
| RP | paulg: well, yes. | 22:12 |
| * RP is now convinced they broke qemu with a recent change. Testing a potential fix. Patching the TCG could mean anything could happen | 22:13 | |
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| RP | It is qemu at fault and I have a fix. Will clean the patch up tomorrow. | 22:48 |
| paulg | alt.qemu.die.die.die | 22:50 |
| * paulg misses NNTP | 22:51 | |
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| khem | RP: I think this ppc32 issue could be a regression in qemu, I see you have qrmu 8.0 staged in your branch | 23:40 |
| khem | Can you try it without qemu 8? | 23:40 |
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