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| khem | abelloni: I see that you have staged https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe-core/patch/20230710171504.867425-1-alexander.sverdlin@siemens.com/ for master accidentally in your branch | 00:50 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:33 |
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| abelloni | khem: well, it was sent for master | 09:29 |
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| adrianf | rber|res: Here are some patches to workaround the cve database download issues. https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/184115, https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/184116. Please let us know if it also helps for you. | 10:54 |
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| rburton | i can confirm the patches work for me. I get about five notes of 503 in the logs but it gets there in the end | 11:17 |
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| RobertBerger | @adrianf: thanks, I'll give it a try | 13:43 |
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| RobertBerger | Is there an explanation why on master OLDEST_KERNEL="5.15" and SDK_OLDEST_KERNEL="3.2.0"? What does this mean? | 15:03 |
| amsobr | Hey all, just joined the meeting. António here | 15:04 |
| rburton | RobertBerger: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-OLDEST_KERNEL | 15:04 |
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| RobertBerger | @rburton: yes I know, but SDK_OLDEST_KERNEL does not seem to be explained. I found this, which helps a bit more: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/next/migration-guides/migration-4.3.html#supported-kernel-versions | 15:06 |
| rburton | yes, the SDK variation needs documenting, but it's the same idea just for the sdk not the target | 15:07 |
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| RobertBerger | @rburton It does not make much sense to be different values for both in most cases, but the migration-guides seem to kind of explain it. Like by default bitbake with >5.15 but build with your SDK whatever version down to 3.2. | 15:12 |
| rburton | RobertBerger: sure it makes sense: you might want to have a sdk that runs on old rhel but know your target kernels are 6.x | 15:12 |
| RobertBerger | Ah the SDK value has to do with the host Linux kernel? | 15:13 |
| rburton | we bump the target minimum regularly as it means glibc can optimise itself for newer kernels | 15:13 |
| rburton | yeah its the glibc in nativesdk | 15:13 |
| RobertBerger | OK - now it makes sense | 15:13 |
| RobertBerger | Thanks! | 15:15 |
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| rburton | JaMa: looks like your image name thing broke bundled initramfs | 16:05 |
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| yudjinn[m] | I have TEST_VERSION ?= "1.2" in my bblayers.conf; is there any way to manually override that at build time? I know with machine you can just MACHINE=machine bitbake core-image... but TEST_VERSION="1.3" bitbake.. doesnt seem to work | 16:24 |
| rburton | bitbake cleans the environment and only allows a few environment variables through | 16:25 |
| rburton | see BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH | 16:27 |
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| yudjinn[m] | ahh, so you have to set BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH_ADDITIONS | 16:28 |
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| aak-rookie | i have an engine project in yocto. there are 3 different projects coming out of this engine. project1, project2, project3. i only have machine configuration for project1 that engine generates. i plan to create machinename-project1.conf, machinename-project2.conf, machinename-project3.conf. also, thinking of defining the common things in | 17:04 |
| aak-rookie | "default-common-settings.inc" file. i will include this file on machine configs. would such a structure have a problem? does it make sense? do you have any suggestions? meanwhile, the machine will be the same. for example, let's say cm4. | 17:04 |
| aak-rookie | specific distro, machine features or kernel configurations can be made for projects. | 17:05 |
| khem | aak-rookie: what other differences are there in project ? | 17:18 |
| khem | are they distro level policy changes | 17:18 |
| khem | or just something you can manage at image level | 17:18 |
| aak-rookie | i can say image level. | 17:19 |
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| khem | in that case perhaps you can just have 3 different images for same distro and machine | 17:19 |
| khem | aak-rookie: yoe distro uses concept of projects too see https://github.com/YoeDistro/yoe-distro/tree/master/sources/meta-yoe/conf/projects | 17:21 |
| khem | something you might want to look at | 17:21 |
| aak-rookie | there may be changes in patches, machine, deployment properties. does it still solve 3 different images? | 17:21 |
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| aak-rookie | khem the way, i was trying to reach you regarding meta-coral. still can't get build but because of imx-atf. https://github.com/Freescale/meta-freescale/issues/1572 | 17:23 |
| aak-rookie | by the way* | 17:23 |
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| khem | hmm if you have project based patches that might be a problem | 17:24 |
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| aak-rookie | for example, maybe need to setgpio pins for project2 like this: | 17:26 |
| aak-rookie | gpio=17=op,dl \n\ | 17:26 |
| aak-rookie | gpio=22=op,dl \n\ | 17:26 |
| aak-rookie | gpio=5=op,dl,pd \n\ | 17:26 |
| aak-rookie | gpio=6=op,dl,pd \n\ | 17:26 |
| aak-rookie | that's why i thought it would make more sense to create machine confs. | 17:27 |
| aak-rookie | or no need touchscreen,bluetooth etc. | 17:28 |
| khem | how will you set this up ? via runtime conf or rootfs time tweak ? | 17:28 |
| aak-rookie | i'm using meta-raspberrypi. it is sufficient to add it to the RPI_EXTRA_CONFIG variable in the machine configuration. does it "rootfs time tweak" concept? i'm a rookie, i may not know all the concepts exactly. :D | 17:31 |
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| khem | that affects rpi-config package particularly and is build time value | 18:01 |
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| khem | rburton: SVE and SVE2 should perhaps be added to aarch64 tunable options | 18:02 |
| khem | similar to crypto and crc | 18:02 |
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| aak-rookie | lets say i have mymachine.conf and includes: | 19:21 |
| aak-rookie | MACHINEOVERRIDES = "myallmachines:raspberrypi4:${MACHINE}" | 19:21 |
| aak-rookie | i want to check like this: "${@bb.utils.contains("MACHINE", "myallmachines", "raspicam", "", d)}" but it doesnt work, checked with "bitbake -e". | 19:21 |
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| cambrian_invader | shouldn't you check MACHINEOVERRIDES? | 19:22 |
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| aak-rookie | i need some sleep... u are right, im fool. | 19:23 |
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| aak-rookie | i thought it would work but it still didn't. bitbake -e returns MACHINEOVERRIDES="rpi:armv7ve:myallmachines:raspberrypi4:mymachine". i guess it can't find it because there isn't a single value. | 19:31 |
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| rburton | khem: tell jon he keeps on threatening to rewrite the tunes :) | 19:38 |
| khem | yeah, I am not sure whats minimum arch for sve and sve2 | 19:42 |
| khem | I guess v8.2 for sve and v9 for sve2 ? | 19:42 |
| rburton | sounds about right | 19:42 |
| khem | can it exist without crypto ? | 19:43 |
| rburton | no idea technically, but realistically i doubt you'll get sve but no crypto | 19:44 |
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| khem | I agree | 20:00 |
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| khem | rburton: jonmason sent a patchset to add sve to tunes takes a look | 20:11 |
| jonmason | I have some tunes patches I'm working on | 20:12 |
| jonmason | but honestly, the entire thing needs to be rewritten. there has to be a smarter way than adding every permutation | 20:13 |
| khem | yes I agree | 20:13 |
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| khem | I personally think these variants are distractions more than a help | 20:16 |
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| khem | perhaps there are targetted pieces which could benefit from super duper extra ISA | 20:16 |
| khem | but some which control ABI I needed | 20:16 |
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| jonmason | I was just doing the generic and the model specifics, no features | 20:28 |
| jonmason | https://gitlab.com/jonmason00/poky/-/commit/be3b0eb35bb225475703be71fb7bb18a255e6dd8 | 20:28 |
| jonmason | not fully baked, but should probably maybe work | 20:29 |
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| RP | jonmason: I'm not sure what you'd rewrite to. The plan was only to add things actually useful in the wild | 21:31 |
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