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| jonmason | RP: the nesting into directories is much better than before. I was more thinking about the float, crypto, etc and them being enabled/disabled. | 00:01 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:42 |
| moto-timo | strange, `devtool latest-version po4a` is reporting current version 0.69 but it is in fact 0.49. Is there some kind of caching that I need to clear? (AUH related) | 06:44 |
| Guest98 | morning | 06:45 |
| moto-timo | ah nevermind, I have to clean the local layer of the previous upgraded recipes... | 06:45 |
| Guest98 | lets say i have 3 machine conf machine1.conf, machine2.conf, machine3.conf. confs include: | 06:45 |
| Guest98 | MACHINEOVERRIDES = "mymachines:raspberrypi4:${MACHINE}" | 06:45 |
| Guest98 | i want to do something like this: | 06:45 |
| Guest98 | IMAGE_INSTALL_append = ${@bb.utils.contains("MACHINEOVERRIDES", "mymachines", "raspicam", "", d)} | 06:45 |
| Guest98 | if MACHINEOVERRIDES contains mymachines, set raspicam for machine1,machine2,machine3. is it possible? | 06:45 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Guest98: IMAGE_INSTALL:append:mymachine1= " raspicam". duplicate per machine. | 07:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | respectively IMAGE_INSTALL:append:mymachines= " raspicam" | 07:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest98: https://youtu.be/46gTjz1sju4 | 07:17 |
| Guest98 | do_install_append_mymachines() also works right? | 07:18 |
| Guest98 | LetoThe2nd thank you! | 07:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest98: since about 4 releases, its ":", not "_"... | 07:18 |
| LetoThe2nd | see the video : | 07:18 |
| Guest98 | yep, i know. im using zeus that's why i use _ | 07:19 |
| Guest98 | :D | 07:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest98: as this is out of maintenance, you should upgrade now, if only for security reasons. | 07:20 |
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| moto-timo | EOSS videos have landed on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LinuxfoundationOrg/playlists | 07:47 |
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| tomzy_0[m] | Hello | 08:04 |
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| tomzy_0[m] | are there also videos from Yocto DevDay? | 08:04 |
| tomzy_0[m] | I am not able to see them | 08:04 |
| tomzy_0[m] | s/see/find/ | 08:05 |
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| rburton | tomzy_0[m]: they were recorded and will be online shortly at https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoctoProject/videos | 08:19 |
| tomzy_0[m] | thanks | 08:21 |
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| rburton | moto-timo: eight weeeks, they said! | 08:24 |
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| Guest87 | Hi, taking over a yo to project here and lots recipes have SRC_URI pointing to savannah, that does fail, looking at the URI with a browser, all directories seem empty, not familiar with savannah project, any advice? | 08:25 |
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| rburton | Guest87: can you name one example? | 08:28 |
| Guest87 | sure | 08:29 |
| Guest87 | recipe for quilt-native points squarely to http://download-mirror.savannah.gnu.org/releases/automake/ | 08:30 |
| rburton | but there's a perfectly good quilt-native recipe in core | 08:30 |
| Guest87 | sorry meant recipe for automake | 08:30 |
| rburton | there's a perfectly good automake recipe in core too, SRC_URI = "${GNU_MIRROR}/automake/automake-${PV}.tar.gz" | 08:31 |
| landgraf | https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/automake/ | 08:31 |
| landgraf | GNU_MIRROR | 08:31 |
| landgraf | Guest87:So the advice is "Do not reinvent the wheel" :) | 08:32 |
| Guest87 | could you bitbake -e | grep GNU_MIRROR?? | 08:32 |
| moto-timo | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/fbORNy8Z/ | 08:32 |
| rburton | Guest87: yes, that directory is empty. so presumably the recipe never actually worked with an empty DL_DIR and it only worked as whoever wrote that already had the tarballs | 08:32 |
| Guest87 | as I said am taking over, only been there 2 days lol | 08:32 |
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| rburton | respectfully, sounds like you need to delete some cruft :) | 08:33 |
| Guest87 | rburton totally agreed | 08:33 |
| Guest87 | I need to change the content of GNU_MIRROR variable but not sure to what | 08:34 |
| moto-timo | I just posted what it is now | 08:34 |
| moto-timo | or was for kirkstone release anyway | 08:34 |
| Guest87 | brilliant thamks | 08:35 |
| Guest87 | thanks | 08:35 |
| moto-timo | in your head savannah == GNU | 08:36 |
| moto-timo | salsa == Debian | 08:36 |
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| moto-timo | alioth == old Debian | 08:36 |
| rburton | Guest87: is that a special-for-your-layer automake recipe? | 08:36 |
| moto-timo | or maybe just wanted/needed a newer/older automake version... | 08:37 |
| moto-timo | question every single locally carried recipe that is also present in oe-core or other layers. | 08:37 |
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| Ablu | Are there any example of using systemd in a initramfs? | 09:46 |
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| rburton | an initramfs is just another image, so make it as usual | 10:08 |
| Ablu | rburton: true. I was mostly hoping for inspiration on how people call `systemctl switch-root` to switch over. That and maybe some systemd-repart examples. | 10:15 |
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| Ablu | Ah. initrd-switch-root.service is a thing. Did not realize that from the systemd docs... | 10:25 |
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| RP | rburton: thoughts on merging the test release of autoconf? | 10:36 |
| RP | rburton: I think I'm in favour | 10:36 |
| rburton | RP: i can fire a largish build with just that to see if anything changes obviously | 10:37 |
| rburton | i dont like random git snapshots but i don't like autoconf in general ;) | 10:38 |
| RP | rburton: I don't like it either but this does bring us close to any eventual release | 10:38 |
| RP | there is good time_t and largefile stuff in there | 10:39 |
| rburton | yeah | 10:39 |
| rburton | has upstream stalled or are they still working towards release? | 10:39 |
| RP | rburton: stalled I think but they seemed really close | 10:39 |
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| linex[m] | Hello,... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/129a9d3a38114e5ee36bbffef3300c6c9f5c70f3>) | 11:56 |
| mckoan | linex[m]: more details? | 12:05 |
| * mckoan crystall ball is broken today | 12:05 | |
| linex[m] | I'm also using siemens's Kas, not sure if that's very relevant, building for dunfell | 12:11 |
| linex[m] | the package that is causing me pain is docker-ce | 12:12 |
| linex[m] | is there a way to get all the dependencies of an image ? show-layers recipe does not give the whole picture | 12:16 |
| landgraf | linex[m]: bitbake -g <image_name> ? | 12:17 |
| rburton | linex[m]: if a recipe is being built then it's being pulled in somehow, quite possibly though potential dependencies so it might be built but not installed. | 12:19 |
| linex[m] | I do not believe that should trigger the build though | 12:40 |
| rburton | you're wrong :) | 12:47 |
| rburton | recipe R may produce packages A and B | 12:47 |
| rburton | your image has A in | 12:47 |
| rburton | but if package B depends on C then C also needs to be built as part of building R | 12:48 |
| rburton | otherwise you go to install B and you get missing dependencies | 12:48 |
| rburton | the dependency chains can be long and unexpected but bitbake won't _invent_ dependencies | 12:48 |
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| linex[m] | yeah I figured my image is depending on another image, now I have to understand why, there's nothing in the image file pointing to that, it might be some kas behaviour I'm not understanding | 12:57 |
| rburton | kas doesn't do anything special | 13:01 |
| rburton | it just clones, writes a local.conf and calls bitbake | 13:01 |
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| linex[m] | it also does checkout and lose your local commits to the abyss :D | 13:05 |
| rburton | you can tell it not to do that :) | 13:09 |
| jclsn | qschulz: There is an automated way to sign the kernel image and enroll the keys in U-Boot somewhere, if I remember correctly. Where is that again? | 13:09 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: automated within Yocto you mean? | 13:17 |
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| linex[m] | yeah I discovered that after the crime :) | 13:32 |
| jclsn | qschulz: Yes, I remember you saying that FIT image verification is implemented in Yocto somehow, when we were talking about it last year | 13:33 |
| qschulz | jclsn: haven't worked for a while with Yocto and I don't remember discussing this sorry :/ | 13:34 |
| jclsn | In our old company we did it with HAB in the end and you encouraged me to use the openssl method from your Secure Boot A-Z | 13:34 |
| jclsn | Alright, thanks anyway | 13:34 |
| qschulz | jclsn: mkimage can sign fitimages for you yes? | 13:35 |
| qschulz | and U-Boot can verify your fitimage at runtime too | 13:35 |
| jclsn | Yes, that is what I mean | 13:36 |
| qschulz | and you can have the kernel verify the rootfs without using an initramfs to switch_root but I have never used this one (and it's "new") | 13:36 |
| jclsn | Thanks, will look into it | 13:37 |
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| jclsn | Another question: Can you list a .patch file in a recipe that patches the same recipe it is listed in? I would assume no | 13:47 |
| jclsn | That is what a .bbappend is for I guess | 13:48 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: " in a recipe that patches the same recipe" ? | 13:53 |
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| jclsn | Yeah, I made it clear^2 I guess | 13:57 |
| jclsn | If that were possible, there would be no reason for a .bbappend | 13:57 |
| jclsn | Or well, maybe there still would be | 13:58 |
| kergoth_ | Hmm, anyone recall the history behind the TARGET_VENDOR change for multilib configurations, which makes multilib variants of recipes distinct from an equivalent configuration directly for a target? I'd assume this would reduce sstate usage for equivalent configurations. Something to do with the libexec paths in the toolchain multilib builds, perhaps? I know it goes back to the original multilib implementation, specifically the | 14:00 |
| kergoth_ | target vendor fix from mark hatle. What differences are there in a lib32-core-image-minimal targeted for a 64 bit platform with the 32-bit multilib enabled and a core-image-minimal for a 32-bit platform with equivalent tuning? | 14:00 |
| kergoth_ | That's all git would turn up, checking my mailing list archives next :) | 14:01 |
| RP | kergoth_: From memory I think we wanted different lib prefix settings to have different vendors. You could match one lib prefix to match the specific target config but we've never picked one | 14:04 |
| RP | kergoth_: I suspect for core we made the differ just to make it obvious which was going where | 14:05 |
| RP | s/the/them/ | 14:05 |
| kergoth_ | Yeah, was suspecting as much myself. Of course the PN is different anyway, so was curious. That goes way back to 2011 in your original work on it :) | 14:06 |
| RP | kergoth_: My thinking was probably that we could resolve that later ;-) | 14:06 |
| RP | kergoth_: sstate reuse wasn't a thing then either | 14:06 |
| kergoth_ | Yeah, with current signature handlers and rebuilds of tasks based on checksums, it's probably less critical to isolate those via namespace. Could be interesting to experiment | 14:07 |
| RP | we ended up making the build trees a lot more resistant to different configs than they ever used to be | 14:08 |
| kergoth_ | It's tough with any long-lived project, really. Oh yeah, we did XYZ because of ABC that no longer exists :) | 14:11 |
| RP | kergoth_: I'm still not sure we should rely on the build cleanup code but it does a good enough job now, most people do quite heavily :/ | 14:13 |
| RP | i.e. our old rules of only allowing machine changes in a TMPDIR and multi-machine support but not multi-distro | 14:13 |
| RP | if we wanted to make that part of the architecture, some proper injection points into the taskgraph would be much nicer | 14:18 |
| RP | (see rm_work) | 14:18 |
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| rburton | RP: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/83/builds/5584 says the kernel branch without the switch to 6.4 is good | 15:26 |
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| RP | rburton: excellent, was that your ross/kernel branch? | 15:34 |
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| rburton | yes | 15:41 |
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| RP | rburton: merged, thanks | 15:50 |
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| rburton | JPEW: do you still use meta-mingw? | 17:30 |
| JPEW | rburton: Yes | 17:31 |
| rburton | JPEW: the way mingw32-common.inc sets MACHINEOVERRIDES .= ":sdkmingw32" makes me very suspicious, because it means simply selecting the mingw sdk changes *target* overrides. | 17:31 |
| rburton | JPEW: i need to go eat but if you have a moment to unpick that (I tried just deleting and it broke other things) then that would be great | 17:32 |
| rburton | it's actively causing breakage, ie target freetype builds trying to run windres | 17:32 |
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| RP | rburton: that does look wrong :/ | 19:26 |
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