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| vmeson | thanks khem. if you have any info on build time delta and runtime improvements that would be appreciated but I expect that you don't and I should test it myself. | 00:27 |
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| khem | With mold ? No I don’t have any numbers I think lld is good enough for linking needs as of now for what I deal with | 01:17 |
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| khem | RP: btw. I am seeing that ptest when run in parallel fail randomly and the reason when it fails is that ssh to target does not succeed and I see this kernel crash in qemu always - https://snips.sh/f/sjfzUuXZt9 | 04:18 |
| khem | RP: I think its definitely related because ssh times out in this case and test fails but in other runs it passes ok and the crash is not seen | 04:20 |
| khem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1991951 | 04:34 |
| khem | it is relatively new so perhaps @zeddii knows if something related changed in kernel | 04:35 |
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| dl9pf | The reproducible build results page seems broken: https://www.yoctoproject.org/reproducible-build-results/ | 06:50 |
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| RP | khem: I suspect we need to create a bug for this one. It isn't one we've been aware of | 08:21 |
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| RP | dl9pf: could you send helpdesk@yp.org an email about it please? | 08:24 |
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| nico39 | Hi, does anyone know where I can find the logic of Poky/OE CVE metrics pages that were presented during Jon's talk last week ? | 10:39 |
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| rburton | nico39: the raw data is the cve-check report. the script to turn that into a chart is in https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/scripts and the html which reads that cvs and draws a chart is in https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-metrics/ | 10:46 |
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| nico39 | Thanks rburton! exactly what I was looking for | 10:53 |
| rburton | its not pretty ;) (I'm allowed to say that as I wrote a lot of it) | 10:54 |
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| Guest456123 | Hi, | 11:16 |
| Guest456123 | How can we disable a particular toolchain's oe-selftest in poky? Is there any option/file to disable a particular toolchain oe-selftest while all other oe-selftests continue to run? | 11:16 |
| Guest456123 | There's a option "PACKAGECONFIG" which can be used to enable/disable some features. Can we disable using that? | 11:16 |
| Guest456123 | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/singleindex.html#term-PACKAGECONFIG | 11:16 |
| rburton | Guest456123: can you be more precise about what test you actually mean? | 11:17 |
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| Guest456123 | For eg. if I can skip or disable gcc oe-selftest when the following command is given to test all test suites | 11:26 |
| Guest456123 | oe-selftest -a | 11:26 |
| Guest456123 | I know there is a "--skip-tests" option to skip them while giving the command. | 11:26 |
| Guest456123 | But, can this be done using some variable/task in .bb file?? | 11:26 |
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| rburton | Guest456123: no, not from a recipe, unless you want to go and start deleting test cases. just use --exclude-tag and filter out all the toolchain tests, or --skip-tests if you want to be very precise | 11:36 |
| Guest456123 | If not recipe file, is there any other way? | 11:39 |
| rburton | you tell selftests to skip certain tests | 11:40 |
| rburton | you want to skip tests when running oe-selftest. oe-selftest has several ways of skipping tests. | 11:40 |
| Guest456123 | I want to skip the complete test suite (present under meta/lib/oeqa/selftest/cases/*.py file, example- gcc.py) rather than individual test cases when running "oe-selftest -a" | 11:43 |
| rburton | just the gcc tests, or all toolchain tests (such as glibc too) | 11:46 |
| Guest456123 | yeah, just gcc (only 1 toolchain) | 11:47 |
| rburton | --skip-tests gcc works, afaik | 11:48 |
| rburton | that will still run the entire glibc test suite | 11:48 |
| Guest456123 | So, no other way apart from "--skip-tests"? | 11:49 |
| rburton | correct | 11:49 |
| Guest456123 | Ok, thanks rburton | 11:49 |
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| rburton | a bbappend would manipulate the _recipe_ but that isn't the _test case_ | 11:49 |
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| RP | khem: I think I do understand that bug, I think it is the qemu logging issue we've talked about on the mailing list. Linaro were working on a patch | 12:47 |
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| khem | RP: ok so I think the rcu stall is perhaps not connected, I increases the stall timeout from 21 to 60 and reran core-image-ptest-fast, I still had ssh timeouts but the stalls disappeared from qemu boot logs. | 16:49 |
| khem | zeddii: RP: here is what I tested https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/commit/?h=yoe/mut&id=adb6cbd4dfeadfd817eb665bf971815978c3e582 | 16:51 |
| khem | zeddii: | 16:51 |
| khem | I think we should perhaps change the defaults to 60 in default configs | 16:51 |
| RP | khem: I think we should fix the qemu log handling, we really shouldn't hit 60s on those timers | 16:52 |
| khem | is this patch you are talking about https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-core/20231129124501.86503-1-alex.bennee@linaro.org/ ? | 16:53 |
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| khem | RP: linux-yocto's default is 21s which is being hit regularly on my system | 16:54 |
| zeddii | I'm ok with changing the default, it can either be in a KERNEL_FEATURE that we only enable in the poky configs, or directly in all kernel's inheriting "standard". | 16:55 |
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| RP | khem: I'm just wondering why as we really shouldn't hit that limit. Builds and tests in paralell and overloading the system? | 16:58 |
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| khem | perhaps yes, its running n number of ptests in parallel builds are all done | 17:00 |
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| khem | zeddii: On Linus's tree I dont see CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_TIMEOUT being set to 21 so is it our own config ? | 17:01 |
| khem | some arches e.g. mips/arm/s390/ppc explicitly set it to 60 | 17:01 |
| zeddii | we don't have a setting for that in the kernel-cache, so it just takes defaults. | 17:02 |
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| khem | ah default is 21 if not set nm | 17:02 |
| khem | yeah just checked kernel/rcu/Kconfig.debug | 17:03 |
| khem | I do see ubuntu and archlinux have overridden the defaults for all the supported arches to 60 so there must be conditions under heavy load | 17:04 |
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| kanavin | RP: I'm going to look into whether we can make selftest parallelize more efficiently. And look at at least the slowest tests in it and see if those can be sped up. | 18:29 |
| kanavin | there's just too much time spent doing tests sequentially towards the end, they should be given to other threads | 18:29 |
| kanavin | especially armhosts are a pain | 18:29 |
| RP | kanavin: I can give some tips? | 18:31 |
| kanavin | RP: maybe not yet, I'm trying to get the printdiff fixes into shape for sending for review | 18:32 |
| kanavin | I guess 'I'm going to' is a soft commitment, not a hard one :) | 18:32 |
| RP | kanavin: I suspect the biggest win would be looking at individual long running tests and optimising them. Parallelism works at the class level so any class of tests would run on the same "build" thread. | 18:33 |
| kanavin | RP: yes, but there's a particularly unfortunate allocation in there that runs for hours and hours long after all other threads have completed | 18:33 |
| RP | kanavin: FWIW I hate the way concurrenttest works behind the scenes and the way it shares out the tests is painful but I know why it works the way it does | 18:33 |
| kanavin | oescripts+sstatetests+wic one | 18:33 |
| RP | kanavin: the concurrency code barely works as it is :( | 18:34 |
| RP | kanavin: just sharing my experiences with this, I did what I could at the time | 18:35 |
| RP | kanavin: separating the long running unrelated tests into separate classes can help, as can tweaking the tests for performance | 18:35 |
| kanavin | RP: I also have to wonder, do we really have to run them 4 times across the spectrum of distros? | 18:36 |
| RP | kanavin: given the number of issues those show up, probably sadly | 18:36 |
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