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| CosmicPenguin | Long shot but has anybody tried QEMU+OVMF with systemd-boot v254? v253 works, but v254 version of systemd-bootx64.efi won't load. OVMF code implies this might be a corrupted file. There are objdump differences but nothing that would scream breakage. | 02:15 |
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| khem | CosmicPenguin: check the starting address do they match | 03:58 |
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| d-s-e | Hi, I'm going crazy while trying to build multiple packages from one recipe. I did this several times before, but this time it's not working. I have a recipe foo, that builds the package foo. Now I added a FILES:bar="..." and also added bar to PACKAGES. When I look into work/.../packages-split/ after the build, a folder bar has been created, but the files for bar are installed in the foo folder. How can I fix this (on kirkstone)? | 09:54 |
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| alessioigor | Hi all If I make a little trivial change to toolchain-shar-extract.sh the SDK installation (not generation) fails: etting it up.../opt/poky/3.1.29/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/python3: line 5: /opt/poky/3.1.29/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/usr/bin/python3.8.real: No such file or directory | 10:04 |
| alessioigor | post-relocate command "/opt/poky/3.1.29/sysroots/x86_64-pokysdk-linux/post-relocate-setup.d/meson-setup.py /opt/poky/3.1.29" failed with status 127 | 10:04 |
| alessioigor | /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/opt/poky/3.1.29/relocate_sdk.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 10:04 |
| alessioigor | SDK could not be set up. Relocate script failed. Abort! | 10:04 |
| alessioigor | Sorry my mistake. | 10:09 |
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| rburton | d-s-e: packaging works through the packages in the order listed in PACKAGES. if foo is before bar and includes the files then they won't be in bar. | 10:51 |
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| d-s-e | rburton: Ok, that fixes it, thanks. But in other recipes I used PACKAGES += " bar" and it worked. | 10:58 |
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| rburton | d-s-e: what i said continues to apply | 11:02 |
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| KanjiMonster | d-s-e: some types of files are automatically added to/consumed by the default package (e.g. binaries), maybe your other recipe's bar didn't include them? | 11:03 |
| KanjiMonster | There's a helper https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN you can use | 11:03 |
| rburton | FILES:${PN} is quite large so it does by default pick a lot of files | 11:04 |
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| d-s-e | rburton: Oh, I see a difference in the recipes: In one I wrote FILES:${PN} = "..." and in the other FILES:${PN} += "...". So FILES is prepopulated before I set it? Those packages contain only some shell scripts and data files, no binaries or a compile step. | 11:09 |
| rburton | yeah see bitbake.conf | 11:09 |
| rburton | and well every recipe that doesn't list every files in FILES | 11:09 |
| rburton | without writing any FILES you get binaries, actual shared libraries, and data files in PN. headers and unversioned library symlinks in PN-dev, debug symbols in PN-dbg, and documentation in PN-doc. Having to write that out for _every_ recipe would be very boring. | 11:10 |
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| d-s-e | rburton: Yes, that totally makes sense. I tend to forget that when I have to deal with recipes where nothing is compiled. Thanks for pointing this out :-) | 11:16 |
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| * kanavin still has 27 recipes in meta-oe to fix so they don't break with python 3.12 | 12:05 | |
| kanavin | I'll set this aside for now | 12:06 |
| kanavin | 3.12 has removed many deprecated modules and api items, as they have warned for years, and it just doesn't help. deprecation warnings are largely useless :( | 12:06 |
| rburton | they do need to be more obvious | 12:09 |
| rburton | not sure _how_ though | 12:10 |
| kanavin | python3 --I-am-willingly-ignoring-deprecations | 12:11 |
| RP | kanavin: we even have some in bitbake sadly :( | 12:13 |
| kanavin | RP: yes, so many things so little time. I'm going to update my fedora at some point and take a look what is there. | 12:15 |
| kanavin | going back to printdiff now | 12:16 |
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| pidge | rburton: Can you verify that you're ok with this and I'll send it out. https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=pidge/testimage | 14:03 |
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| rburton | pidge: the actual test is more your code than mine | 14:41 |
| pidge | Ah, I'm considering you coauthor at least. It's based off your WIP test | 14:42 |
| pidge | egueli-AV are you around? | 14:42 |
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| leonanavi | hi sakoman, does it make sense to add debian-12 to the list of supported distributions in variable SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS for Yocto LTS release Kirkstone? | 15:22 |
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| leonanavi | I am asking because I ran into a situation where the latest version of kas-container comes with docker container based on debian 12 which triggers an annoying warning for host distribution "debian-12". | 15:25 |
| sakoman | leonanavi: it is *probably* ok, but I'll need to enable autobuilder testing on that distro for a while to make sure | 15:25 |
| moto-timo | given how much longer 'kirkstone' will be supported, it probably makes sense? | 15:28 |
| moto-timo | 4.0.15 change type of concept? | 15:28 |
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| CosmicPenguin | khem: in fact, they do not match | 15:31 |
| leonanavi | sakoman, moto-timo should I send a patch to add debian-12 to SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS in Kirkstone? I will be happy to do it but I am not aware of the big picture for Kirkstone therefore I prefer to ask first. | 15:40 |
| sakoman | leonanavi: no need, I need to enable the autobuilder testing first | 15:41 |
| leonanavi | ok | 15:41 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: did/can you send the list of 27 to the oe-devel mailing list? | 15:42 |
| kanavin | moto-timo, yes, a bit later today | 15:44 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: thank you. You don't have to do this alone ;) | 15:44 |
| paulg | so here is a strange bug. buildtools doesn't seem to work when target arch matches host arch. The pseudo build gets all angry. I think it is pseudo's fault. Default buildtools is 4.1 ; I manually installed a 3.4 and a 3.0 and it was the same. | 15:44 |
| paulg | I've got a an ubu-16.04 building beaglebone on master ; and the 18.04 machine was fine with building i386 | 15:46 |
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| paulg | but try and use buildtools on x86-64 to build x86-64 target and pseudo build spits the dummy | 15:47 |
| paulg | undefined reference to `_dl_addr@GLIBC_PRIVATE' | 15:47 |
| paulg | undefined reference to `pow@GLIBC_2.29' | 15:48 |
| rburton | the AB tests that combination so it should work... | 15:48 |
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| paulg | and a bunch more similar ones. I'm going to test on ubu-20.04 with buildtools, since that *doesn't* actually need buildtools | 15:49 |
| paulg | see if that gives me a hint as to what is going on. I don't *need* to be using these old machines but it was/is cold outside. | 15:50 |
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| kanavin | moto-timo, done | 15:53 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: it might also be a nice easy reason to drop some old cruft ;) | 15:55 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: thank you for all the work you've done already | 15:55 |
| kanavin | moto-timo, I dropped a couple dead projects yes :) | 15:56 |
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| kanavin | tgamblin, you might be interested in these too perhaps | 15:59 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: thanks for the heads-up. I'm wondering if 3.12.0 will cause any issues like what we're seeing with F39 systems? | 16:01 |
| tgamblin | s/cause any issues/cause any issues with target images/ | 16:01 |
| moto-timo | tgamblin: likely to be the same patterns yes | 16:02 |
| kanavin | tgamblin, a-full passed | 16:02 |
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| kanavin | but I did have to backport something asyncio related I think | 16:02 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: moto-timo: alright | 16:15 |
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| vmeson | pidge: recent build, in my sstate-cache dir: ls */ -la | grep drwxr-xr-x | wc -l -> 257 -- all ".." directories. | 16:34 |
| landgraf | vmeson: same here | 16:35 |
| vmeson | pidge in an older sstate-cache dir, 301 matches, 43 of which are not ".." directories. | 16:35 |
| vmeson | $ umask -> 0022 fyi. | 16:37 |
| landgraf | TIL: find has '-perm' flag :) | 16:38 |
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| yudjinn | hello, where can I find a list of changes that I need to apply to update from kirkstone -> scarthgap? | 16:40 |
| pidge | vmeson: Any of them happen to contain nativesdk bits? | 16:42 |
| yocton | yudjinn: scarthgap is not out yet so the migration guide has not been written yet. Once it does, you will find it here : https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/migration-guides/migration-general.html | 16:45 |
| RP | paulg: that is weird because as rburton says, we test with this a lot | 16:51 |
| vmeson | pidge: I'll check after this call.. | 16:51 |
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| pidge | ty, vmeson | 16:52 |
| RP | paulg: how does uninative compare with your buildtools version. It might be something related to that. Have you tried a recent buildtools? | 16:52 |
| paulg | everything is the latest on master - I don't screw with older stuff or company stuff when it is on my personal kit. | 16:54 |
| RP | paulg: try a 4.3 buildtools ? | 16:54 |
| RP | I'm guessing latest uninative with old buildtools may end badly | 16:55 |
| paulg | It *looks* like it "works" when you overlay buildtools on a supported ubu-20.04 that doesn't really need it but 'cause I'm task switching I need to go back and be sure I sourced the buildtools file... | 16:56 |
| RP | 4.1 really shouldn't be the default buildltools :( | 16:56 |
| paulg | and 4.1 is what the script gets by default ; I went backwards to 3.4 and 3.0 but not forward.. | 16:56 |
| RP | paulg: the script is wrong :( | 16:56 |
| paulg | I'll take your word for it. Rather than learn the cmd syntax I just went and found the .sh files for 3.4 and 3.0 and wget'ed them. | 16:57 |
| yudjinn | yocton: I'm hoping to get a little ahead and see what kind of lift it'll be, any way I can see the preliminary changes that may happen? i.e. syntax | 16:59 |
| yocton | yudjinn: maybe look at migration guides for release between kirkstone and the future scarthgap? by the way, I believe there was no major syntax changes between those two | 17:01 |
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| yudjinn | yocton: is `master` or `master-next` going to be scarthgap? | 17:02 |
| yocton | yudjinn: master-next does become master after maintainer tests and merging, master will become scarthgap at release (~April next year) | 17:03 |
| frosteyes | sakoman: just answered your question regarding gstreamer1.0-plugins-base backport to kirkstone - hope it make sense why I suggest to have it backported | 17:04 |
| sakoman | frosteyes: thanks, I just wanted to make sure it was an issue in stock kirkstone | 17:05 |
| frosteyes | sakoman: for me - it is more some qt apps using qmlgl, but root cause is the same - where Alexander had a very nice fix. | 17:07 |
| paulg | yep, the 4.1 buildtools works when layered onto ubu-20.04 ; just doesn't like ubu-18.04 ; I'll try 4.3 just for laughs. probably not worth spending a lot of time on it as I think it was dropped here when Ubuntu made it EOL in April... | 17:10 |
| paulg | 0: llvm-native-17.0.6-r0 do_fetch - 6h50m0s (pid 9128) 99% |########## | 377K/s | 17:13 |
| paulg | geeez I hate that giant pig | 17:13 |
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| yudjinn | yocton: thanks a bunch! | 17:20 |
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| paulg | what the hell are we doing --- wrapping a git repo in inside a tarball - ensuring every update means we have to start from zero!?! | 17:33 |
| paulg | paul@o960:~/poky/downloads$ ls -lh git2_github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git.tar.gz | 17:33 |
| paulg | -rw-r--r-- 1 paul paul 6.1G Dec 1 00:30 git2_github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git.tar.gz | 17:33 |
| paulg | that seems super-dumb. | 17:34 |
| paulg | did y'all let vmeson set this up? | 17:35 |
| * paulg runs | 17:35 | |
| * vmeson tries to trip paulg | 17:35 | |
| paulg | too fast 4 U | 17:36 |
| vmeson | paulg: likely khem...but checking git log | 17:36 |
| paulg | RP told me about some "developer" knob that would default to fetch via git -- cater to ppl who update daily -- meant to go check that out ; now I can't even remember what it was called... | 17:40 |
| vmeson | paulg: on poky/master I get a git repo: downloads/git2/github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git -- what branch are you on? | 17:41 |
| paulg | guessing it only worked for recipes that were written for "dual fetch" support. | 17:41 |
| paulg | I've got that too. But it is native that screws you --- llvm-native-17.0.6-r0 | 17:42 |
| rburton | paulg: thats premirrors, which have been disabled for ages | 17:42 |
| paulg | rburton, no surprise - probably was 2-3 years or more when RP told me about it | 17:43 |
| paulg | I have *no* idea why the native triggers going for a tarball over git. They look about the same size. | 17:47 |
| paulg | paul@o960:~/poky/downloads$ ls -ld git2/github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git | 17:48 |
| paulg | drwxr-xr-x 7 paul paul 4096 Dec 1 00:14 git2/github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git | 17:48 |
| paulg | paul@o960:~/poky/downloads$ du -csh git2/github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git | 17:48 |
| paulg | 6.2Ggit2/github.com.llvm.llvm-project.git | 17:48 |
| paulg | I don't know enough about llvm to know if there is some subtle difference - a fork or whatever? Don't really want to know. But 12GB for llvm is nutz!! | 17:49 |
| paulg | Oh, I bet we expanded the tarball inside the downloads dir? Just a guess. | 17:51 |
| rburton | paulg: does your local.conf set PREMIRRORS or use own-mirrors? | 17:58 |
| rburton | paulg: llvm shouldn't be hitting the premirror afaik | 17:58 |
| paulg | I'll have to look - thing is probably ancient | 17:59 |
| paulg | or wait - it might be the autogenerated one just a week old at most. | 18:00 |
| paulg | I'm shuffling machines around and dont know what is where.... | 18:00 |
| Saur | Maybe llvm-native should be configured with BB_GIT_SHALLOW:pn-llvm-native = "1" in meta/classes-global/mirrors.bbclass just like glibc and binutils? | 18:05 |
| paulg | no PREMIRRORS set and I've never set up a local mirror at home. | 18:05 |
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| Saur | At least that way, the tarball won't be as huge (hopefully)... | 18:06 |
| Saur | paulg: Do you have any problems accessing the remote git repository, so that it is hitting the MIRRORS instead? | 18:07 |
| paulg | oh yeah - look at that ; had to scroll up to see it. | 18:08 |
| paulg | WARNING: llvm-native-17.0.6-r0 do_fetch: Failed to fetch URL git://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git;branch=release/17.x;protocol=https, attempting MIRRORS if available | 18:08 |
| Saur | There's your answer. :) | 18:09 |
| paulg | damn thing should have tried harder!!! | 18:09 |
| paulg | Or at least tried twice. | 18:10 |
| paulg | cable internet, so I don't know why it would glitch. Maybe it was github? | 18:11 |
| paulg | Not that I'm saying cable internet is perfect! | 18:11 |
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| vmeson | pidge: ugh, meetings, lunch, co-workers bitching about bloatware problems... ;-) ( a shallow clone of llvm rust-llvm rust, etc seems like a good idea). | 19:20 |
| vmeson | pidge: anyway, no nativesdk according to: for i in `ls */ -la | grep drwxr-xr-x | rg -v "\.\." | rev | cut -c -2 | rev `; do fd nativesdk $i; done | 19:20 |
| vmeson | err, that's not quite right... please hold... | 19:26 |
| vmeson | pidge: heh, there are no nativesdk sstate objects in my sstate-cache... that's not something I work on very often. | 19:34 |
| vmeson | from : for i in `find * -type d -perm 755`; do find $i -name "*nativesdk*"; done -- nothing so sanity check: fd nativesdk -> also zilch! | 19:35 |
| * vmeson thinks of telling the story about Gammasphere and the charming young Brazilian physicist telling him to always check if the detector is on! Maybe over beer some time. | 19:37 | |
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| vmeson | pidge: fwiw: https://dpaste.org/GF8qd | 19:55 |
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| warthog9 | Anyone know how to muck about with a partition after wic/wks has created it and put a bunch of stuff in it? Specifically I need to go and remove a file and put a custom grub.cfg in place, but so far the ways I've tried have been utterly unsuccessful - mostly wondering if anyone else has done it and has a pointer? | 20:18 |
| JPEW | warthog9: We've done some things kinda like that with a custom wic plugin | 20:18 |
| JPEW | (depending on what you need to do) | 20:19 |
| warthog9 | yeah I could extend bootimg-efi.py to make use of the do_post_partition() (pretty sure that's right) but was vaguely hoping to avoid that | 20:19 |
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| moto-timo | warthog9: there is a copy command for wic... it just copies files into an existing partition. I haven't used that in a while. | 21:44 |
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| moto-timo | warthog9: also, IMHO a lot of the old assumptions about grub and efi are showing some age... but nobody stops to rework it from the original source... just bandaids. | 21:46 |
| moto-timo | (assumptions in OE) | 21:46 |
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| moto-timo | warthog9: wic cp: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/scripts/wic#n242 | 21:47 |
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| RP | paulg: it tried the git repo, it failed, it went for the mirror tarball which it would extract a git repo from. Why the original clone failed, no idea | 22:20 |
| RP | paulg: I had to read the scrollback to see what you were blaming me for now :) | 22:21 |
| paulg | Hey! This time I was giving you credit for sharing a tip! :-P | 22:23 |
| rburton | warthog9: JPEW: i'm wondering if we should just allow ESPs to be normal images. package for the boot loader, package for efi shell, packages for kernels, etc. | 22:23 |
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| warthog9 | rburton: yeah I'm fighting with an ESP specifically, basically replicating what Fedora's doing on EFI to get just enough to pass the boot process off to a more easily accessible partition | 22:37 |
| warthog9 | I got it working with the caveat there's a leftover Image file stashed in the ESP that I haven't figured out how to properly delete | 22:38 |
| khem | paulg: building master on ubuntu 18.04 and below is adventure I would guess | 22:39 |
| warthog9 | rburton: I'm also running into wonkiness trying to separate /boot from / on the system and appropriately populate them so they mesh back up after boot | 22:39 |
| rburton | right | 22:40 |
| rburton | just admiting that /boot is basically an entirely separate system seems sensible | 22:40 |
| warthog9 | yeah EFI is it's own mess, /boot is a different separate mess then / and the rest is isolated enough from the mess of booting | 22:40 |
| warthog9 | (at least that's how I'm treating it) | 22:41 |
| warthog9 | (and mostly because I'm dealing with u-boot -> UEFI -> Grub -> system) | 22:41 |
| warthog9 | (for reasons) | 22:41 |
| rburton | that does make it 'fun' | 22:42 |
| warthog9 | context: someone who wasn't me defined the entire system should only boot from EMMC, and the EMMC is utterly obnoxious to deal with from a production stand point (could have told them, but I was late to that party) | 22:43 |
| warthog9 | so EFI gets stashed on the EMMC to chain load to grub on an sdcard | 22:43 |
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| warthog9 | and off to the races from there | 22:43 |
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| khem | why SD card and emmc both involved in boot, grub could reside on emmc too | 22:44 |
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| warthog9 | khem: I've got grub on the emmc, just enough to load the next grub config from the sdcard | 22:45 |
| warthog9 | effectively grub on the emmc does all of: configfile $prefix/grub.cfg | 22:46 |
| warthog9 | and jumps off | 22:46 |
| khem | OK so it seems you are trying to use as little of emmc and switch to SD card in boot process | 22:46 |
| warthog9 | yup | 22:46 |
| khem | I was thinking you have good sized emmc so use emmc all the way | 22:46 |
| warthog9 | 8G | 22:47 |
| warthog9 | the real problem is dealing with the EMMC from a production physical build is problematic | 22:47 |
| warthog9 | and it's a lot easier to prep the emmc with enough to boot to sd and then pop an sd card in | 22:47 |
| khem | have a SD card installer which can partition and install the OS into it during manufecturing/factory | 22:47 |
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| warthog9 | khem: as noted, the hardware guy made it so it only can boot from emmc in the factory | 22:48 |
| khem | oh so you can basically brick it if emmc is hosed ? | 22:48 |
| warthog9 | YUP | 22:48 |
| khem | good lord | 22:49 |
| warthog9 | thus: emmc to boot and do next to no writes to to prevent bricking the system | 22:49 |
| paulg | khem - it actually does better than I thought it would! | 22:49 |
| warthog9 | I've got a laundry list of fixes for the platform ;-) | 22:50 |
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| RP | khem: we test on 1804 still! | 22:56 |
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| landgraf | RP: SRC_URL bug (the one I've stolen from you today) has been fixed already :( | 23:18 |
| landgraf | and it was not caused by SRC_URL typo... | 23:19 |
| RP | landgraf: it has? were we missing a backport somewhere? I hadn't looked into it at all, just sounded worrying | 23:20 |
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