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RPkhem: it is effectively not supported by upstream yet though :(00:18
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Xogiumkhem: thank you07:33
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khemRP: in some components this might be but for subset we need it has everything we need07:45
Xogiumis there a wic recipe (not sure if one can call them this way), that allows boot on both legacy bios and modern uefi systems ? A bit like mkhybridiso, but not iso form07:47
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX08:33
landgraf(^_^)/08:37
Xogiumhiya LetoThe2nd :)08:38
mckoanHello LetoThe2nd, landgraf, everyone08:42
Xogiumwell, I'm gonna ask this anyway because why not... But is there some way to get tutored in yocto ? Either one on one or in a very small group ? I do what I can with the manual, but I admit that it's still very difficult to learn all on my own08:43
mckoanXogium: here you can see my trainings https://koansoftware.com/training/08:48
mckoanXogium: or free resources https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/learn/08:48
Xogiummckoan: huh, those lesons do look cool :O but yeah costly not to mention pricy just for me ^^08:55
Xogiumstill, it's neat08:55
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LetoThe2ndXogium: for free or low cost, its essentially the manual, the various YouTube resources (of varying quality including my own), and the Yocto Project Summit.09:34
Xogiumhmm makes sense09:35
XogiumI wasn't trying to imply that the price was unreasonable btw it makes sense when taken in a company context09:36
LetoThe2ndXogium: yeah we all understand. But the point is that almost nobody does Yocto "for fun", it is almost always a professional context.09:36
Xogiumyeah09:38
XogiumI get that09:38
XogiumI mean, I want to learn it both for my own things and also because, well... It looks like not a lot of folks are interested in buildroot, so I'm kind of hoping that by learning yocto I'd have more luck at getting a job09:39
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LetoThe2ndXogium: oh there definitely are a lot of people working on and using buildroot too - it's just a different use case.09:48
LetoThe2ndXogium: yocto talent is definitely sought after these days.09:49
Xogiumdamn, I must be unlucky as all hell in that case09:50
LetoThe2ndit of course depends a bit on the personal whereabout and flexibility, its definitely a skill in demand.09:52
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Xogiumyeah that makes sense09:56
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Martin42Hello community, I have an out of tree kernel module, which also provides a header file that has to be included in the SDK. The module.bbclass only install the module file, but how do I install the header into the SDK? Thanks :)11:23
rburtonMartin42: package the header as usual in the recipe, and then add the -dev package to the SDK using TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK11:24
Martin42Thanks rburton :) I will give it a try. Do you recall if there were changes between honister and langdale regarding kernel modules and the SDK? Cause I am in the process of migrating and just packaging the -dev package was enugh on honister.11:27
rburtonnot afaik11:27
rburtoni was about to say, packaging the header in the -dev should work11:28
rburtonbecause if the module is in the rootfs then the dev will be in the sdk11:28
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Martin42Until now on honister I was not using any of MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS - MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS - MACHINE_EXTRA_RDEPENDS - MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS, but rather using IMAGE_INSTALL to include my kernel modules. Maybe that also makes a difference here.11:30
rburtonthats fine11:31
rburtonyou know langdale is EOL right11:32
rburtonkirkstone is supported until 202611:32
Xogiumand there's gonna be a new shiny lts in may too11:35
Xogium^^11:35
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Martin42rburton thanks for the warning, however I am stuck on whatever latest version Xilinx packages with their FPGA chips ;(11:36
kanavinMartin42, all of xilinx layers are open source, you don't need to use what they package11:38
rburtonweeelllll if you want support and the xilinx layers are famously complex you kind of do11:38
rburtoni believe the next release will be actually on a LTS11:39
Xogiumthat's kinda what I like about st, their releases always use lts softwares11:39
Martin42rburton kanavin agreed, usually the x.1 release is LTS, the x.2 is intermediate, I am currently jumping onto 2023.2 and once available onto 2024.1 (which is hopefully LTS again).11:40
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Xogiumthey follow along with stable releases, but they don't actively use them in a release of their own11:40
kanavinbut then you should ask them to support you, not the 'community'11:41
kanavinotherwise, what's the point in using their outdated stuff11:41
Martin42kanavin the problem I had was with Yocto and not with Xilinx, probably just something small I as developer overlooked, so I appreciate the help of the community pointing me into the right direction11:42
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rburtonspeaking of langdale, i just saw https://twitter.com/gilesthurston/status/174687238459301524612:33
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rob_wcan i ship a 2nd kernel in a image , would love to build a image for 2 different hardwares with 2 different kernels and decide on u-boot which one to boot13:00
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RPrburton: it is a beautiful place13:12
ablurob_w: Hm... In general you should probably ship a single kernel and only provide 2 device-trees.13:13
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rob_wablu: having trouble porting a hardware to the same kernel as other hardware ... hence my question13:48
ablurob_w: You can certainly hack u-boot or boot scripts to work with multiple kernels. But I am not sure if that will become particulary maintainable.13:53
rob_wnot worried about u-boot .. that will be fine, but i need to add the 2nd kernel in theory13:54
mcfriskrob_w: two kernels, two sets of modules in initramfs, rootfs etc it gets messy pretty soon13:57
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mcfriskwith multiconfig multiple machines can be compiled in one go and dependencies can be expressed between them, also multiple kernel versions then13:58
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rob_wmcfrisk: agreed ... back to porting14:01
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rob_wahh i just tested copying the other kernel into my image, works .. damn it14:10
* rob_w curses TI14:10
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Guest18Hi all,14:15
Guest18I am using warrior based build and i have include CORE_IMAGE_EXTRA_INSTALL += "python3-fail2ban"14:15
Guest18which is using python3-fail2ban_0.10.4.0 but when i am running the fail2ban service getting error as14:15
Guest18attached in a link https://pastebin.com/amsdSxtZ14:15
Guest18Can someone help me how i can fix this issue in the warrior ? As if i checkout to other branches of meta-security(zeus,dunfell) i am getting conflict errors while building.14:15
Guest18Posting this again as due to some network issue i lost my connection14:15
jstephanHi all, I am trying to fix bug #15162 (multiple sources in SRC_URI with devtool)14:16
rburtonGuest18: were you here a week or so ago with sshd problems related to init.d/functions?14:16
jstephanI added a detailed comment https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15162#c6 to explain the possbile solution I see and the drawbacks..14:17
jstephanany feedback would be apreciated :)14:17
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rburtonGuest18: whatever your distro is, it's shipping a custom /etc/init.d/functions that _needs_ bash.  complain to whoever provided your distro.14:20
rburtonalso warrior was end-of-life in 2020 so please upgrade if you're using this in production14:21
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RPLooks like groups.io has managed to make a blackhole list and all email is now going to spam for me :(14:54
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rburtonwhoops14:56
LetoThe2ndRP: yeah they are having some fun these days. first I needed to re-verify, and now they are spamming me with notifications about all oe/yp ml subscription changes (and I can't find a way to disable that)15:00
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simonewHi all, so I started looking into Bug 12388. When ckecking qemu and the include files for it, I wondered: Would it make sense in generall  to add a tune-x86-64-v4.inc as well? the v3 was introduced when qemu added support for it. The same is now true for v4.16:19
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rburtonyes16:26
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simonewthe yes is directed at me or to someone else?16:30
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rburtonyou :)16:31
rburton(sorry)16:31
simonew:) Ok I will look into it then. Normally would I create a Bugzilla issue for this?16:32
rburtonfiling a bug can be useful in case you don't finish, but isn't essential16:32
simonewOk, thx16:33
rburtonah v4 is avx512, basically16:33
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rburtonFWIW i have most of a libunwind 1.8.0 upgrade _with a test suite_ done17:27
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RPrburton: nice!17:50
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