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| khem | RP: hmm I sent a fix for this few months ago but it is still not applied to meta-mingw see https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/yocto/patch/20240130171030.2154086-1-raj.khem@gmail.com/ | 02:58 |
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| khem | cherry-pick this into meta-mingw and you should make progress | 02:59 |
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| qschulz | yudjinn: maybe there's even a simpler way to handle all of this. is make_conf only ever called from withing do_make_conf_special task? | 08:09 |
| qschulz | yudjinn: if so, you can simply define the make_conf directly inside your task | 08:09 |
| qschulz | e.g. https://paste.ack.tf/e3305f | 08:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 09:03 |
| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: hey | 09:08 |
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| Lihis | I have tried to test out my image with "runqemu qemux86-64 slirp nographic ovmf <my-image-name> wic" but only get error "IMAGE_LINK_NAME wasn't set to find corresponding .qemuboot.conf file". Reference manual says that "default value is derived using the IMAGE_BASENAME and IMAGE_MACHINE_SUFFIX variables". I haven't override the value so how come it is not set? I'm on master branch if that matters | 10:57 |
| rburton | the arg to 'ovmf' is the firmware to use, not your image | 10:59 |
| rburton | "runqemu qemux86-64 slirp nographic " should just work | 10:59 |
| Lihis | the 'ovmf' is needed to boot with UEFI? | 11:13 |
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| rburton | ah its an optional arg. the AB exercises this with just 'runqemu nographic serial wic ovmf', so maybe remove your image name and let runqemu find it? runqemu argument parsing can be a little fiddly... | 11:23 |
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| Lihis | thanks rburton, it works! looks like only thing needed was to drop the image name from the command | 11:42 |
| Lihis | somehow I got the impression that the image name would have been required but I was wrong | 11:43 |
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| rburton | Lihis: it should have used the name as a hint but as i said, the parsing is a bit complex as its so flexible | 12:44 |
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| vvn | hi there -- DEPLOY_DIR can be safely shared between multiple distro/machine/releases, right? | 14:03 |
| vvn | hum, not distro, one DEPLOY_DIR per distro, but multiple releases and machines | 14:04 |
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| gmask | Hi community! buildpath warnings show up in scarthgap for projects using gcov (-fprofile-arcs --coverage). Seems that absolute `gcda` paths are injected into object files. The new -fprofile-prefix-map has been implemented, but is not working as expected (see https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=105063). Any idea what to do about this? | 14:19 |
| rburton | gmask: sounds like this is a gcc bug so i'm not sure what you expect us to do? | 14:34 |
| vvn | is it safe to use BBMASK with distro/machines overrides? | 14:40 |
| gmask | rburton: this new `-fprofile-prefix-map` is not in `DEBUG_FLAGS` or anywhere in `bitbake.conf`, so I wonder if this is intentional or none had found this problem before? In the former case, maybe you've found another set of flags to work around this | 14:45 |
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| rburton | gmask: add it and see if it fixes your problem, if it does send a patch | 14:49 |
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| gmask | It doesn't, although it should. That's why I was asking herer | 14:55 |
| rburton | sounds like a gcc bug then | 14:57 |
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| gmask | rburton: yes, and it seems like none has even attempted to use the flag, since it's nowhere in the code, which is strange, since it will be required for reproducible builds (if using gcov) | 15:00 |
| rburton | obviously nobody has wanted reprod builds with coverage enabled | 15:01 |
| gmask | why obviously? | 15:03 |
| rburton | because it doesn't work :) | 15:03 |
| rburton | if the flag doesn't work then its a gcc bug, so ask gcc | 15:04 |
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| gmask | The flag works partially, and there are other flags associated with profiling that some people seem to have used, hence my question here. But ok, I'll go ask Mr gcc | 15:10 |
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| kilobyte_ch | Hello, I'm using chromium in kiosk mode on yocto with matchbox-wm. Now I would like to display a video windows (borderless window) on top of chromium. For this I use libSDL. I can set the libSDL window Borderless. But in matchbox-wm it is always fullscreen. Can I somehow convince matchbox-wm to not make this window fullscreen? | 15:21 |
| rburton | kilobyte_ch: make it a dialog window | 15:23 |
| rburton | normal windows are fullscreen in matchbox, you can't avoid that | 15:24 |
| kilobyte_ch | rburton: do you know how that would work with a chromium window and then a SDL window on top of it as "dialog window"? Is there an SDL flag for that? | 15:26 |
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| rburton | i won't ask why you can't play the video in chromium... | 15:30 |
| rburton | never used sdk | 15:30 |
| rburton | sdl | 15:30 |
| rburton | https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest/ar01s05.html#idm45491728030320 <-- you just want a window type that tells matchbox 'this is not a normal window'. dialog or splash will work | 15:32 |
| kilobyte_ch | rburton: ok, thanks. Window type is a good thing to dig deeper. Even though I don't see yet how to implement this with SDL. | 15:34 |
| kilobyte_ch | rburton: oh, there is SDL_WINDOW_POPUP_MENU. With that it works, very nice! | 15:38 |
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| pasherring | Hey there =) Regarding packages-split (which I am still learning about, so, please correct me if I say something stupid =), I understand that the files are selected to populate the package from left to right, according to the FILES_ match. What if I wish the same file is installed in multiple packages, is it possible? | 15:44 |
| rburton | no | 15:46 |
| rburton | you can put files in a common package and then have other packages depend on that common package | 15:47 |
| pasherring | rburton, Nice, thanks! Do you have an example to share regarding this usage (maybe some recipe you know by heart that does this)? | 15:48 |
| rburton | its nothing clever | 15:48 |
| rburton | PACKAGES = PN-foo PN-bar PN-common | 15:49 |
| rburton | put into common the files that you want present if either foo or bar are installed | 15:49 |
| rburton | then add RDEPENDS from foo and bar to common | 15:49 |
| vvn | PN-common would usually be simply PN | 15:57 |
| vvn | and PN-foo depends on PN | 15:57 |
| rburton | sure, maybe | 15:58 |
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| pasherring | Ok, got it... I did something here, but the packages-split folder doesn't seem what I was expecting. So, the file was added to PN-common indeed, but the file is absent under the PN-foo. Is this expected? | 16:00 |
| rburton | yes, because it will be in one package | 16:01 |
| rburton | remember you're digging around the build tree, not looking at what gets installed in an image | 16:01 |
| rburton | you make pn-foo rdepend on pn-common, then installing pn-foo will also install pn-common, and the file you want exists | 16:02 |
| pasherring | vvn, got it, makes sense! The file in question is the lib's pkg-config file (libfoo.pc). In this specific case, I don't want it to go into the PN. | 16:02 |
| pasherring | rburton, got it, many thanks for the explanation and suggestion! | 16:03 |
| rburton | .pc files should be in the -dev package | 16:03 |
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| pasherring | Yeah, this specific recipe is a vendor provided, faulty one that was packing it into -dbg. I wanted to move it into -dev (it was not being added to the sdk because of that), but I wish also to keep things as is not to break the vendor's assumptions | 16:04 |
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| vvn | If I build the same distro (but different OE releases) for various machines, can I safely share DEPLOY_DIR between builds to serve a single artifacts location during development? | 16:18 |
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| rburton | no, builds will go and clean "old" files from it | 16:32 |
| vvn | ha | 16:32 |
| vvn | same for DEPLOY_DIR_* (such as DEPLOY_DIR_IPK) | 16:33 |
| vvn | ? | 16:33 |
| rburton | yes | 16:35 |
| vvn | should artifacts be necessarily merged manually? How do you guys usually centralize artifacts for e.g. factory images or development .ipk? | 16:37 |
| rburton | i can't answer that, but i can ask why you want to merge different releases into a single artifact | 16:41 |
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| vvn | rburton: I have several machines supported by my distro, some of them build against kirkstone, some of them build again mickledore, and so on. | 16:42 |
| vvn | I guess I'll have no choice but to have deploy dirs per machine then | 16:47 |
| JaMa | vvn: do those builds with kirkstone and mickledore share anything other than DL_DIR? I share TOPDIR for multiple MACHINEs but not for different releases | 16:50 |
| vvn | JaMa: DL_DIR, SSTATE_DIR, and I thought about DEPLOY_DIR, but this is likely a bad idea | 16:51 |
| JaMa | but why not share DL_DIR, SSTATE_DIR from 2 different TOPDIRs? | 16:52 |
| vvn | that's what I'll do, yes | 16:53 |
| vvn | but in the end I want the .ipk for internal development and the *.wic* as well, I thought I was being smart by sharing DEPLOY_DIR_IPK and DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGES from my distro | 16:53 |
| JaMa | technically you can share SSTATE_DIR across all possible combinations, but I don't think you'll actually reuse much from kirkstone in mickledore build, so I keep SSTATE_DIR separate per release as well (which makes it easier to delete/prune it when some major change is merged and all older sstate is invalidated) | 16:54 |
| JaMa | maybe I'm missing something, but sharing e.g. bash .ipk from mickledore in package-feed for kirkstone (if some of your MACHINEs share common TUNE_PKGARCH) sound like terrible not smart idea :) | 16:55 |
| vvn | if it doesn't hurt to share, I think it'd be better to share sstate with all releases, then eventually sometimes clear it in the CI | 16:55 |
| vvn | JaMa: I figured :) | 16:56 |
| vvn | and relying on "releases" isn't the best too, because different BSPs will require different revision of some layers within the mickledore or kirkstone timeline | 16:57 |
| JaMa | it works but in my experience isn't particulary useful and this "sometimes clear" is different for each release (e.g. master builds need prunning much more often as they grow faster compared to e.g. mickledore which isn't getting many changes and doesn't grow and can stay valid for months - prunning it would cause unnecesary rebuilds) | 16:58 |
| JaMa | ah evil BSPs :) | 16:58 |
| vvn | so beside DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR, sharing sounds nice but is likely a bad idea... one build dir per machine (including its DEPLOY_DIR) then a post build script to serve artifacts from various locations | 16:59 |
| JaMa | ask BSP vendor to get some sense, with more people complaining they will more likely understand that it's not ideal | 17:00 |
| vvn | ho I do that too, do not worry | 17:00 |
| vvn | but in the meantime, I have to deal with it | 17:00 |
| vvn | (an example is the NXP based boards from various manufacturers, you may be able to share meta-freescale for mickledore between them, or not) | 17:01 |
| vvn | with all bbappend for fixed versions (including minor numbers) it becomes a nightmare | 17:02 |
| vvn | or some soc overrides trick they may do | 17:03 |
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| kilobyte_ch | Maybe a dumb question, is there something like Electron for Embedded/Yocto? Or is QT still the "only" good way to go for a proper embedded GUI? | 18:42 |
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| rburton | kilobyte_ch: just use electron? | 18:54 |
| rburton | if you like it, use it | 18:54 |
| rburton | https://github.com/vulcanoio/meta-electron is very old but seems a reasonable start once updated | 18:56 |
| rburton | and meta-browser has chromium etc already | 18:57 |
| rburton | there's also meta-flutter if you like that sort of thing. or gtk4. | 18:57 |
| JaMa | or lvgl and many other things, depends on what you need | 18:58 |
| kilobyte_ch | rburton: thanks, I have searched multiple times for yocto and electron, but never found that meta layer. That's a very valuable starting point! | 18:58 |
| rburton | literally the top hit for 'yocto electron' :) | 18:59 |
| kilobyte_ch | Flutter is pretty great, I use it for mobile, but for embedded it doesn't really feel ready (yet). Tried it some years ago. Maybe its already better. | 19:00 |
| rburton | if you like flutter then meta-flutter is actively maintained | 19:00 |
| JaMa | I don't use it myself but some other project use it with some issues (like the fetcher is far from ideal - similarly to npm and cargo and all these fancy new things) | 19:01 |
| JaMa | https://github.com/meta-flutter/meta-flutter/blob/scarthgap/classes/gn-fetcher.bbclass | 19:02 |
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| khem | lvgl anytime | 19:36 |
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| JaMa | at least it doesn't take ages to build like chromium :) | 20:23 |
| JaMa | and not every embedded device needs full-blown html rendering (that's why I've mentioned it) on the other hand 97 inch oled from LGE has also OS built with OpenEmbeded and try to "embed" this to average living room :) | 20:26 |
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| Jookia | kilobyte_ch: there's wpewebkit. xogium and i have had mixed results with it | 20:27 |
| Jookia | unfortunately if you need something accessible you will need a full desktop environment basically | 20:27 |
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| smurray | JaMa: there's some ongoing discussion on coming up with a scheme for Dart/Flutter similar to what's being done for Rust crates (i.e. modules recorded into SRC_URI for reproducibility) | 22:14 |
| smurray | JaMa: hopefully that'll materialize within the next couple of months, a few people are working on it | 22:15 |
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| JaMa | smurray: cool, thanks for info, this has some fetcher for dh, but still enables the network in configure/compile, I haven't looked further | 22:27 |
| smurray | JaMa: the goal is to get to where Rust support currently is, and maybe further wrt license info | 22:29 |
| smurray | JaMa: there are multiple companies with people keen on it from the sounds of it, so I'm hopeful. I expect we'll be helping test it in AGL | 22:32 |
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