Friday, 2024-05-17

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Jookiais there a reason there's no meson autopackage thing?05:03
Jookiawith recipe-tool05:03
Jookiaor is it just a missing feature05:03
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kanavinJookia, what is a meson autopackage thing?05:59
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Jookiaso recipetool create will check if your project uses cmake or autotools and set 'inherit ...' in the recipe06:00
Jookiait seems like it could do this looking for 'meson.build'06:00
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RPkhem: Did you find a tweak or replacement for assimp?06:21
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JaMaassimp removed in 2021? I've just came across a component depending on it as well08:19
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rburtonJookia: patches welcome (scripts/lib/recipetool/create_buildsys.py, fwiw)  or at least please file a bug08:52
Jookiai'll try a quick patch for it when i next touch oe08:53
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kanavinRP: I'm going to take the qemu 9 update if you haven't started on that08:58
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RPkanavin: I haven't touched it yet09:15
RPgcc14, the unpack changes and the new autobuilder are overloading me :(09:15
rburtoni'd prioritise gcc14 and autobuilder.  what's the latest fallout on 14, is there a build that needs a triage on?09:17
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RPrburton: for gcc14 there are these: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/151/builds/1720/steps/12/logs/stdio09:20
RPI'm wondering if upgrading assimp will help09:20
RPrburton: are you ok with https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=e7b695ea61ae24e692e237a061492fdc58ce4a01 ?09:21
rburtonit also changes libxml2 to gmp09:22
RPhmm, probably dependency related? :/09:22
RPFor the new autobuilder, the problem is that in a build directory, running "yocto-autobuilder-helper/scripts/bitbake-extra-tests" fails on local fast DISPLAY connections09:23
rburtonyeah maybe that was a dependency of librdf09:23
RPlooks like a bitbake cooker bug09:23
RPthe old AB is slower and doesn't fail09:23
RPwell, my local system sees "No reply from server in 30s " a few times09:24
RPthe new AB times out09:24
RPthere is also a really slow running world build on the new cluster09:24
rburtonRP: my problem with alisp is that it appears to be a one-man project and if he gets bored/a job/etc then its dead.  there are better autotools choices.09:25
RPsomething in runqueue is pathalogically slow :(. Maybe related to some of the performance issues kanavin spotted a while ago?09:25
RPrburton: I thought you'd say that and I do kind of agree. Is there a better choice?09:25
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kanavinRP: I can try to help with that rather09:37
rburtonRP: something like gnu m4 or gnu make - smallish and actively maintained.  devtool works well enough if you give it a new recipe name like devtool-test-make.09:37
rburtonthe license detection goes wrong but we can add more hashes ...09:38
RPkanavin: sadly I managed to break that slow build and it exited before I could backtrace it09:44
RPkanavin: 5 hours to get to https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/17/builds/7/steps/11/logs/stdio and it was sitting on an idle server with no tasks running09:44
RPkanavin: although now I think of it, I'm not sure which one you mean as "that" :)09:45
RPrburton: patches would be very welcome09:45
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Guest18in short i want to exclude rng-tools from being part of rootfs while installing openssh10:19
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rburtonGuest18: what release of yocto?10:46
RPI hate some of the bitbake code :(10:46
Guest18warrior(2.7)10:46
rburtonGuest18: why are you using a release that was EOL in 2020?10:47
Guest18Agree, but some of set up were not able to update due to certain limitations so dont have option10:48
rburtonGuest18: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-connectivity/openssh/openssh_7.9p1.bb?h=warrior#n152 <-- that's a recommends so look up BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS in the documentation10:48
rburtonusing a four year old release is an active choice and if this is for production then I beg you to plan for an updaete10:49
Guest18I have added NO_RECOMMENDATIONS_${PN}-sshd_append_class-target = "1" in by bbappend file but didnt worked10:50
Guest18I am trying adding NO_RECOMMENDATIONS =  "1" in local.conf to check if it works10:51
rburtonlook up BAD_RECOMMENDATIONS in the manual, and use that10:52
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Guest18adding NO_RECOMMENDATIONS =  "1" in bbappend file will be helpful ?10:55
JaMareading the documentation will be helpful? :)10:56
kanavinRP: I meant slowness of builds and bringing up new machines in general. I didn10:57
kanavin't start with qemu yet10:57
RPFWIW I've tracked down the taskdep UI glitch10:58
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RPrburton: I managed to track down the option for assimp to make it pass with gcc 1414:15
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RPkanavin: https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/17/builds/8 is also running slowly14:21
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rburtonRP: i may switch anyway if assimp is that dead14:42
rburtonbut i did fix the meson/sdk issue14:42
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RPrburton: it is making releases and this gives us a way forward14:52
RPrburton: cool14:52
rburtonRP: so the SDK environment scripts set OECORE_TARGET_ARCH etc.  that's a lie: thats _HOST_ from the perspective of the user in the SDK, right15:00
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RPrburton: are we talking nativesdk or target ?15:07
RPrburton: we have "build" which is the machine we're building on, "host" which is where the thing we're building will ultimately get run and "target" which is where we want the resulting binaries to be used15:08
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rburtonRP: right.  the sdk environment scripts are generated with export OECORE_TARGET_ARCH="${TARGET_ARCH}", so the use of TARGET_ARCH in the value is right.  but when the user is using the SDK, that's the host.15:08
rburtoni propose deprecating OECORE_TARGET_* and adding OECORE_HOST_*15:09
RPrburton: I think it isn't as simple as this15:09
RPrburton: the environment scripts are messy as I think they have to run in a bad context :/15:10
RPrburton: I guess I'm confused whether you mean "thing SDK is runnng on" or "thing SDK is building binaries for"15:11
RPOECORE_TARGET_ARCH is "thing SDK is building binaries for"15:11
rburtonright and i think that's wrong.  to the user of the SDK, that's the host15:12
RPI think changing it around will just create more confusion :(15:13
RPyou are right, it does depend which context you look at this from15:14
rburtonthe clue is that we do --host=${TARGET_SYS} in the sdk autooconf args: everything has rotated one step15:14
RPRight, but this is so when you're looking at this from an OE perspective, it doesn't confuse things there :(15:15
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khemrburton: I was asking about the autotools example other day, then I looked at savannah and picked one with least deps and most active as of last week16:10
khemI was also trying to use one which is not available as recipe in metadata16:10
rburtonthere's no problem with using one in core already just give it a new name in devtool16:11
rburtonie devtool add devtool-test-gawk16:11
rburtonhm i wonder how long esdk has been broken16:12
khemI think gnu make is a good option16:13
khemit needs libguile though, I see -lguile-3.0 -lgc -lpthread -ldl16:13
rburtonmust be optional as our make recipe doesn't16:15
rburtonEXTRA_OECONF += "--without-guile" :)16:15
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khemrburton: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/commit/?h=yoe/mut&id=269f443bd6b219335ce749ceb237fca849c627b017:01
khemon top of master-next17:01
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Guest64Hello everybody, what should be the content of the email to subscribe to the group?19:08
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