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khemvvn:I always share a single sstate between a dockered build and another one which is native on my machine00:08
khemUsing yoe distro's container setup the mappings are passed to container on invocation00:08
khemhttps://github.com/YoeDistro/yoe-distro/blob/master/envsetup.sh#L54700:09
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schurigHi all!  Seems that there is no "new account" page on https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org --- also bugzilla is quite slow07:26
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mckoanhalstead: ^^^07:32
mckoanshoragan: let's wait the timezone for the admin Michael Halstead07:33
mckoanschurig: not shoragan, sorry :-)07:35
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schurigI wanted to create a bug about bitbake itself. https://0x0.st/XMmm.txt is an excerpt where I run it. One can clearly see the "exit 0" of the do_install method. But bitbake still says that do_install had an error.08:05
schurigI traced this back to runqueue.py, but --- even when I designed the original runqueue some 12-15 years ago, when we still had bitbucket and not git --- I'm now after so many years of not using bitbake a bit at lost of what's going on here. Probably some race around runqueue_process_waitpid()08:08
schurigrunqueue_process_waitpid() can set a non-zero status as well, it doesn't need to come from the task08:08
schurigor it comes from the pickle08:09
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RPschurig: is there a way to reproduce that at will?08:47
RPschurig: it does sound like it would be worth a bug report08:47
RPschurig: the bugzilla is running very slowly for some reason :(08:49
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schurigRP: currently I can reproduce it. However, it happens with recipes for a non-linux embedded project, which I cannot share. So I'm unsure if I can make this reproducible to others. So maybe getting guides here on how to fix it by myself might be the way to go.08:54
schurigRP: I assume no one on Poky-land experienced it so far08:55
schurigI use bitbake from git HEAD and a few of openembedded-core's classes (maybe 10%), but zero of it's recipes08:56
RPschurig: I'm not aware of anyone seeing something like that, no08:56
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RPschurig: can you create a smaller test case just using bitbake and some dummy classes which you could share? I sometimes find reducing something to a smaller test case makes the issue more apparent08:57
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mario-goulartRegarding bugzilla's slowness: a shot in the dark, but in a project I contribute to we had severe performance problems with trac due to the amount of HTTP session-related entries in the database that for some reason did not get cleaned up.08:58
RPschurig: I guess if it were me I'd put more logging around it, something like print statements and bb.warn() calls and try and pin down exactly what code path is happening08:58
RPschurig: also into build.py and runqueue.py08:58
RPmario-goulart: could be. I've emailed helpdesk@yoctoproject.org about it...08:59
RPschurig: I'm kind of curious how you find bitbake these days. A lot has changed in the last 12-15 years, I hope on the most part for good :)09:01
schurigI added some prints: https://0x0.st/XMBr.txt09:03
schurigWhen I look into log.do_install.591600 I don't see an error (the pid is from the pastebin above)09:04
schurigWhen I call the log.do_install.591600 from the command line "sh -x ...path.../run.do_install.591600" then I don't see an error and $? is 009:04
schurigHOWEVER; there is also another run file there, a python snippet: run.extend_recipe_sysroot.591600 I'm unsure if that plays a role?09:04
RPschurig: that is probably a task prefunc and it could well be that which fails09:07
RPschurig: I'd suggest putting an echo "xxx" into your shell before the exit 0 just to confirm it does reach there09:08
RPschurig: you could also add some bb.warn() in to build.py exec_task* to see which functions it actually executes09:09
RPI think there is logging there so you could just make those warn instead of debug09:09
schurigRP: "in kind of curious" ... in the last 12-15 years I still made embedded devices with Linux, but I simply used Debian x86 or Debian armhf on them. The reason was that I wanted customers to be able to install any of the many already compiled Debian packages. I made a "build" system around deboostrap + dpkg that created a new image from scratch in 2 minutes --- assuming all the .debs have been downloaded already. So I had no reason to09:13
schuriguse Bitbake. Not even on i.MX6Q projects.09:13
schurigHowever, now I work on a project that involves a very non-linuxy-kernel. And the existing build system they have is quite ... arg, I don't want the word to be censored! :-)09:13
schurigso I thought I revisit bitbake because now again I'm clearly in the fetch-patch-configure-compile cycle09:14
RPschurig: fair enough, it certainly should be able to do that!09:15
schurigwhen I stopped working on bitbake, it was still dead slow with higher number of packages. Zecke improved from there, if I recall right. But now it's even faster, so I cannot complain about this.09:15
schurigI think the logic around sstate might be nice, but I'm unsure if I like the heavily increased complexity around package creation. I might write my own MUCH simpler package_ipk class (or surrect a very old one) instead09:16
RPschurig: when I started it didn't execute more than one task at a time so speed has improved a bit! :)09:17
RPschurig: sstate is generic so you should be able to wrap any task in that storage functionality FWIW09:17
schurigmy code was quite slow on parsing... I mean, I adopted ideas from gentoo's ebuilds for the .bb files, but with all the override possibilities it became a bottleneck.09:17
schurigFun thing: for the "MNCI" device where I used it, I didn't even need overrides. The requirement came from the many slightly different Sharp Zaurus devices people had09:18
RPschurig: zecke did great work in sorting some of the memory usage and speed issues and we've optimised the datastore a lot over the years with things like copy-on-write functionality09:18
RPschurig: ironic given I was one of the key sharp zaurus kernel people :)09:19
schurigbtw, I made a (german language) blog post of my original work on Bitbake: https://holgerschurig.github.io/de/mnci/ --- but there are some nice photos of the device I worked on, so that might be also for english speakers09:19
RPschurig: google translate works :). That device looks fun, I can see many of the trends of the time. At least you could have a 3.x kernel!09:21
RPschurig: shame it ended the way it did but the device and software sounded good09:24
RPschurig: one other thoughts btw. kernel do_install may be the first place where fakeroot is coming into play. Are you using pseudo for that?09:25
RPLD_PRELOAD errors can be weird09:25
schurigno, modified some variabled to use fakeroot09:26
schurig(in my projects I never had issues with fakeroot)09:26
RPschurig: ok, just keep in mind we gave up on it long ago09:26
schurigUltimately I might want to remove fakeroot/pseudo completely, as the filesystem of this devices isn't linuxy (or even completely posixy). Unsure on that.09:26
RPthat exit code could come from fakeroot rather than your script09:27
schurigI'll looking into this09:30
schurigBTW, things will get fun in a month or so... I'm going to evaluate of bitbake itself works nicely on macOS. Since I don't use it to build Linux, it might be able to run there successfully. openembedded-core or poky is, as far as I understand, depending on various Linux features. But maybe I can isolate the Linuxisms in bitbake09:31
RPschurig: it hopefully isn't too bad. I did drop the inotify code in bitbake recently which should help. pseudo was the main issue for macOS09:33
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rburtonschurig: pseudo is definitely the main blocker, i started making bitbake work on my mac but then macOS introduced the system protection stuff and suddenly LD_PRELOAD wasn't available, which is somewhat of a blocker...  if you can ignore fakeroot entirely then there shouldn't be much in bitbake that is actually linux-specific10:03
schurigRP: it was fakeroot. After I modified base.bbclass (which I adopted from OE-core) to not do fakeroots, the build worked as expected.10:05
schurigrburton: good to know10:05
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linexhi10:06
linexcopying from the matrix room since bridge seems to be disabled:10:06
linexhello,10:07
linexI have been having issues building m4-native (stack smashing detected when running the configure script). I could not find other instances of this issue on the web,10:07
linexIs there any sane way I can skip building m4-native and tell yocto to use the host package for all packages requiring it ? or can you think of any other solution, thanks10:07
linexI have also trired rebuilding from the grounds up many times to no avail, etc.10:07
linexBuidling on Ubuntu 22, on a VM, poky nanbield10:07
rburtonlinex: can you replicate with a fresh checkout of poky on the nanbield branch?10:10
rburton(nanbield is eol so we recommend you upgrade)10:11
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rburtonlinex: fwiw m4-native built fine for me on ubuntu 2204 for nanbield10:43
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RPschurig: glad you found the issue. We need to try and make that more obvious somehow...10:54
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schurigRP: thanks for pointing me into the right direction11:02
schurigI guess my use-case is so special that this doesn11:02
schurigdoesn't mandate a BB change11:02
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schurigbtw, speaking of old times: I had also contact to mickeyl (Michael Lauer). He's now doing CAN apps for Android. However, kergoth and zecke ... never heard again from them.11:03
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rburtonschurig: kergoth is in #oe still, as of last year he was definitely still doing some OE stuff at work11:07
schurigcool11:07
RPschurig: kergoth is still around now and again. I've seen zecke online occasionally in other places but not on irc for a long time11:08
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JaMarburton: there is typo in subject in both yocto-autobuilder series meta-webose -> meta-webosose (if you need to update them)11:55
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RPJaMa: I just applied it, too late :/12:05
* RP should have looked here first!12:05
RPah, no, I can fix that one12:07
linexokay so building in a container seems to fix the issue, I think it's an environment propagation issue of some sort, as  I expected12:15
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JaMaRP: thanks, no big deal otherwise I would have replied on ML12:46
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RPJaMa: np, I hadn't got to the helper patches so it was easy to tweak12:51
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fabateraHi, I'm still trying to figure out this, any hint? It's a rebuild in nanbield, after updating my/other-driver recipes. It doesn't happen in previous yocto versions. Last time I saw was in hardknott13:27
fabateramydriver-mfg : Depends: my-driver13:27
fabaterakernel-module-jailhouse-6.6.3-lts-next-gd1973916e4d7 : Depends: kernel-6.6.3-lts-next-gd1973916e4d7 but it is not installable13:27
fabateraotherdriver-mfg : Depends: other-driver13:27
fabaterapackagegroup-mydrivers : Depends: my-driver but it is not installable13:27
fabatera                                           Depends: other-driver but it is not installable13:27
fabateraE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages13:27
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jclsnHow to mask a systemd unit? Is there a list for it?13:43
jclsnDon't want to run a ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND for it13:44
rburtonJaMa: goddamit every time13:44
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JaMarburton: should we rename it? :)14:13
rfs613how does one get python standard library into the target rootfs? for example the json and socket modules?14:15
rfs613googling suggests python3-json but I can't find that recipe... nor python3-modules for the kitchen sink14:16
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JaMarfs613: it's package built by python3 recipe14:16
rfs613ah, so i can add it to IMAGE_INSTALL, but I can't bitbake it?14:19
JaMayou bake recipes which produce packages, package manager installs packages into images14:20
rfs613right, i see the .deb file for python3-json... got sidetracked looking for a recipe14:21
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rfs613JaMa: did the trick, thanks!14:37
jclsnBtw I found out that chronyd.service does not always stop systemd-timesyncd.service from loading. Actually they should conflict by default, but I have cases where both are loaded14:41
jclsnHad to add a drop-in config to add a Before=systemd-timesyncd.service14:42
jclsnThink this is worth a patch? I don't the solution is pretty, but works at least. Maybe you guys have better ideas14:42
jclsns/I don't/I don't think/14:43
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rburtonrfs613: if you just want "all of python" then depend or image_install 'python3'14:53
rburtonjclsn: if they conflict then surely there's a systemd unit keyword for that, _and_ package conflicts can be used too.14:53
rfs613rburton: thanks, also useful to know. Currently we have python3-core, presumably to keep size down...14:54
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jclsnrburton: Sure, that is what I am saying. It is disabled by default https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-networking/recipes-support/chrony/chrony_4.5.bb#n13315:01
jclsnThis does not work for me though. I had to take more measures. I think this should be upstreamed.15:02
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halsteadschurig: The new account page was supposed to be replaced with instructions for requesting an account after recent spam attacks. I'll track down what happened. In the meantime please email it-coreprojects-helpdesk@linuxfoundation.org  asking for a bugzilla account and we'll add it for you.15:46
rburtonjclsn: please do15:47
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RPJPEW: I think there is a bug with the image manifest changes with spdx 2.2: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/80/builds/6896/steps/14/logs/stdio23:07
RPJPEW: I had a subset of your patches in -next, hoping to merge some of them23:07
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RPkhem: just a heads up that https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=a19d2939aff01562e0afc15814e24cd844be3f38 may influence your builds23:17
RPkhem: I'll write a better justification tomorrow about why we need to do this, at least for llvm23:17
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