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| khem | vvn:I always share a single sstate between a dockered build and another one which is native on my machine | 00:08 |
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| khem | Using yoe distro's container setup the mappings are passed to container on invocation | 00:08 |
| khem | https://github.com/YoeDistro/yoe-distro/blob/master/envsetup.sh#L547 | 00:09 |
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| schurig | Hi all! Seems that there is no "new account" page on https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org --- also bugzilla is quite slow | 07:26 |
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| mckoan | halstead: ^^^ | 07:32 |
| mckoan | shoragan: let's wait the timezone for the admin Michael Halstead | 07:33 |
| mckoan | schurig: not shoragan, sorry :-) | 07:35 |
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| schurig | I wanted to create a bug about bitbake itself. https://0x0.st/XMmm.txt is an excerpt where I run it. One can clearly see the "exit 0" of the do_install method. But bitbake still says that do_install had an error. | 08:05 |
| schurig | I traced this back to runqueue.py, but --- even when I designed the original runqueue some 12-15 years ago, when we still had bitbucket and not git --- I'm now after so many years of not using bitbake a bit at lost of what's going on here. Probably some race around runqueue_process_waitpid() | 08:08 |
| schurig | runqueue_process_waitpid() can set a non-zero status as well, it doesn't need to come from the task | 08:08 |
| schurig | or it comes from the pickle | 08:09 |
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| RP | schurig: is there a way to reproduce that at will? | 08:47 |
| RP | schurig: it does sound like it would be worth a bug report | 08:47 |
| RP | schurig: the bugzilla is running very slowly for some reason :( | 08:49 |
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| schurig | RP: currently I can reproduce it. However, it happens with recipes for a non-linux embedded project, which I cannot share. So I'm unsure if I can make this reproducible to others. So maybe getting guides here on how to fix it by myself might be the way to go. | 08:54 |
| schurig | RP: I assume no one on Poky-land experienced it so far | 08:55 |
| schurig | I use bitbake from git HEAD and a few of openembedded-core's classes (maybe 10%), but zero of it's recipes | 08:56 |
| RP | schurig: I'm not aware of anyone seeing something like that, no | 08:56 |
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| RP | schurig: can you create a smaller test case just using bitbake and some dummy classes which you could share? I sometimes find reducing something to a smaller test case makes the issue more apparent | 08:57 |
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| mario-goulart | Regarding bugzilla's slowness: a shot in the dark, but in a project I contribute to we had severe performance problems with trac due to the amount of HTTP session-related entries in the database that for some reason did not get cleaned up. | 08:58 |
| RP | schurig: I guess if it were me I'd put more logging around it, something like print statements and bb.warn() calls and try and pin down exactly what code path is happening | 08:58 |
| RP | schurig: also into build.py and runqueue.py | 08:58 |
| RP | mario-goulart: could be. I've emailed helpdesk@yoctoproject.org about it... | 08:59 |
| RP | schurig: I'm kind of curious how you find bitbake these days. A lot has changed in the last 12-15 years, I hope on the most part for good :) | 09:01 |
| schurig | I added some prints: https://0x0.st/XMBr.txt | 09:03 |
| schurig | When I look into log.do_install.591600 I don't see an error (the pid is from the pastebin above) | 09:04 |
| schurig | When I call the log.do_install.591600 from the command line "sh -x ...path.../run.do_install.591600" then I don't see an error and $? is 0 | 09:04 |
| schurig | HOWEVER; there is also another run file there, a python snippet: run.extend_recipe_sysroot.591600 I'm unsure if that plays a role? | 09:04 |
| RP | schurig: that is probably a task prefunc and it could well be that which fails | 09:07 |
| RP | schurig: I'd suggest putting an echo "xxx" into your shell before the exit 0 just to confirm it does reach there | 09:08 |
| RP | schurig: you could also add some bb.warn() in to build.py exec_task* to see which functions it actually executes | 09:09 |
| RP | I think there is logging there so you could just make those warn instead of debug | 09:09 |
| schurig | RP: "in kind of curious" ... in the last 12-15 years I still made embedded devices with Linux, but I simply used Debian x86 or Debian armhf on them. The reason was that I wanted customers to be able to install any of the many already compiled Debian packages. I made a "build" system around deboostrap + dpkg that created a new image from scratch in 2 minutes --- assuming all the .debs have been downloaded already. So I had no reason to | 09:13 |
| schurig | use Bitbake. Not even on i.MX6Q projects. | 09:13 |
| schurig | However, now I work on a project that involves a very non-linuxy-kernel. And the existing build system they have is quite ... arg, I don't want the word to be censored! :-) | 09:13 |
| schurig | so I thought I revisit bitbake because now again I'm clearly in the fetch-patch-configure-compile cycle | 09:14 |
| RP | schurig: fair enough, it certainly should be able to do that! | 09:15 |
| schurig | when I stopped working on bitbake, it was still dead slow with higher number of packages. Zecke improved from there, if I recall right. But now it's even faster, so I cannot complain about this. | 09:15 |
| schurig | I think the logic around sstate might be nice, but I'm unsure if I like the heavily increased complexity around package creation. I might write my own MUCH simpler package_ipk class (or surrect a very old one) instead | 09:16 |
| RP | schurig: when I started it didn't execute more than one task at a time so speed has improved a bit! :) | 09:17 |
| RP | schurig: sstate is generic so you should be able to wrap any task in that storage functionality FWIW | 09:17 |
| schurig | my code was quite slow on parsing... I mean, I adopted ideas from gentoo's ebuilds for the .bb files, but with all the override possibilities it became a bottleneck. | 09:17 |
| schurig | Fun thing: for the "MNCI" device where I used it, I didn't even need overrides. The requirement came from the many slightly different Sharp Zaurus devices people had | 09:18 |
| RP | schurig: zecke did great work in sorting some of the memory usage and speed issues and we've optimised the datastore a lot over the years with things like copy-on-write functionality | 09:18 |
| RP | schurig: ironic given I was one of the key sharp zaurus kernel people :) | 09:19 |
| schurig | btw, I made a (german language) blog post of my original work on Bitbake: https://holgerschurig.github.io/de/mnci/ --- but there are some nice photos of the device I worked on, so that might be also for english speakers | 09:19 |
| RP | schurig: google translate works :). That device looks fun, I can see many of the trends of the time. At least you could have a 3.x kernel! | 09:21 |
| RP | schurig: shame it ended the way it did but the device and software sounded good | 09:24 |
| RP | schurig: one other thoughts btw. kernel do_install may be the first place where fakeroot is coming into play. Are you using pseudo for that? | 09:25 |
| RP | LD_PRELOAD errors can be weird | 09:25 |
| schurig | no, modified some variabled to use fakeroot | 09:26 |
| schurig | (in my projects I never had issues with fakeroot) | 09:26 |
| RP | schurig: ok, just keep in mind we gave up on it long ago | 09:26 |
| schurig | Ultimately I might want to remove fakeroot/pseudo completely, as the filesystem of this devices isn't linuxy (or even completely posixy). Unsure on that. | 09:26 |
| RP | that exit code could come from fakeroot rather than your script | 09:27 |
| schurig | I'll looking into this | 09:30 |
| schurig | BTW, things will get fun in a month or so... I'm going to evaluate of bitbake itself works nicely on macOS. Since I don't use it to build Linux, it might be able to run there successfully. openembedded-core or poky is, as far as I understand, depending on various Linux features. But maybe I can isolate the Linuxisms in bitbake | 09:31 |
| RP | schurig: it hopefully isn't too bad. I did drop the inotify code in bitbake recently which should help. pseudo was the main issue for macOS | 09:33 |
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| rburton | schurig: pseudo is definitely the main blocker, i started making bitbake work on my mac but then macOS introduced the system protection stuff and suddenly LD_PRELOAD wasn't available, which is somewhat of a blocker... if you can ignore fakeroot entirely then there shouldn't be much in bitbake that is actually linux-specific | 10:03 |
| schurig | RP: it was fakeroot. After I modified base.bbclass (which I adopted from OE-core) to not do fakeroots, the build worked as expected. | 10:05 |
| schurig | rburton: good to know | 10:05 |
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| linex | hi | 10:06 |
| linex | copying from the matrix room since bridge seems to be disabled: | 10:06 |
| linex | hello, | 10:07 |
| linex | I have been having issues building m4-native (stack smashing detected when running the configure script). I could not find other instances of this issue on the web, | 10:07 |
| linex | Is there any sane way I can skip building m4-native and tell yocto to use the host package for all packages requiring it ? or can you think of any other solution, thanks | 10:07 |
| linex | I have also trired rebuilding from the grounds up many times to no avail, etc. | 10:07 |
| linex | Buidling on Ubuntu 22, on a VM, poky nanbield | 10:07 |
| rburton | linex: can you replicate with a fresh checkout of poky on the nanbield branch? | 10:10 |
| rburton | (nanbield is eol so we recommend you upgrade) | 10:11 |
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| rburton | linex: fwiw m4-native built fine for me on ubuntu 2204 for nanbield | 10:43 |
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| RP | schurig: glad you found the issue. We need to try and make that more obvious somehow... | 10:54 |
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| schurig | RP: thanks for pointing me into the right direction | 11:02 |
| schurig | I guess my use-case is so special that this doesn | 11:02 |
| schurig | doesn't mandate a BB change | 11:02 |
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| schurig | btw, speaking of old times: I had also contact to mickeyl (Michael Lauer). He's now doing CAN apps for Android. However, kergoth and zecke ... never heard again from them. | 11:03 |
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| rburton | schurig: kergoth is in #oe still, as of last year he was definitely still doing some OE stuff at work | 11:07 |
| schurig | cool | 11:07 |
| RP | schurig: kergoth is still around now and again. I've seen zecke online occasionally in other places but not on irc for a long time | 11:08 |
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| JaMa | rburton: there is typo in subject in both yocto-autobuilder series meta-webose -> meta-webosose (if you need to update them) | 11:55 |
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| RP | JaMa: I just applied it, too late :/ | 12:05 |
| * RP should have looked here first! | 12:05 | |
| RP | ah, no, I can fix that one | 12:07 |
| linex | okay so building in a container seems to fix the issue, I think it's an environment propagation issue of some sort, as I expected | 12:15 |
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| JaMa | RP: thanks, no big deal otherwise I would have replied on ML | 12:46 |
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| RP | JaMa: np, I hadn't got to the helper patches so it was easy to tweak | 12:51 |
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| fabatera | Hi, I'm still trying to figure out this, any hint? It's a rebuild in nanbield, after updating my/other-driver recipes. It doesn't happen in previous yocto versions. Last time I saw was in hardknott | 13:27 |
| fabatera | mydriver-mfg : Depends: my-driver | 13:27 |
| fabatera | kernel-module-jailhouse-6.6.3-lts-next-gd1973916e4d7 : Depends: kernel-6.6.3-lts-next-gd1973916e4d7 but it is not installable | 13:27 |
| fabatera | otherdriver-mfg : Depends: other-driver | 13:27 |
| fabatera | packagegroup-mydrivers : Depends: my-driver but it is not installable | 13:27 |
| fabatera | Depends: other-driver but it is not installable | 13:27 |
| fabatera | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages | 13:27 |
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| jclsn | How to mask a systemd unit? Is there a list for it? | 13:43 |
| jclsn | Don't want to run a ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND for it | 13:44 |
| rburton | JaMa: goddamit every time | 13:44 |
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| JaMa | rburton: should we rename it? :) | 14:13 |
| rfs613 | how does one get python standard library into the target rootfs? for example the json and socket modules? | 14:15 |
| rfs613 | googling suggests python3-json but I can't find that recipe... nor python3-modules for the kitchen sink | 14:16 |
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| JaMa | rfs613: it's package built by python3 recipe | 14:16 |
| rfs613 | ah, so i can add it to IMAGE_INSTALL, but I can't bitbake it? | 14:19 |
| JaMa | you bake recipes which produce packages, package manager installs packages into images | 14:20 |
| rfs613 | right, i see the .deb file for python3-json... got sidetracked looking for a recipe | 14:21 |
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| rfs613 | JaMa: did the trick, thanks! | 14:37 |
| jclsn | Btw I found out that chronyd.service does not always stop systemd-timesyncd.service from loading. Actually they should conflict by default, but I have cases where both are loaded | 14:41 |
| jclsn | Had to add a drop-in config to add a Before=systemd-timesyncd.service | 14:42 |
| jclsn | Think this is worth a patch? I don't the solution is pretty, but works at least. Maybe you guys have better ideas | 14:42 |
| jclsn | s/I don't/I don't think/ | 14:43 |
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| rburton | rfs613: if you just want "all of python" then depend or image_install 'python3' | 14:53 |
| rburton | jclsn: if they conflict then surely there's a systemd unit keyword for that, _and_ package conflicts can be used too. | 14:53 |
| rfs613 | rburton: thanks, also useful to know. Currently we have python3-core, presumably to keep size down... | 14:54 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Sure, that is what I am saying. It is disabled by default https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-networking/recipes-support/chrony/chrony_4.5.bb#n133 | 15:01 |
| jclsn | This does not work for me though. I had to take more measures. I think this should be upstreamed. | 15:02 |
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| halstead | schurig: The new account page was supposed to be replaced with instructions for requesting an account after recent spam attacks. I'll track down what happened. In the meantime please email it-coreprojects-helpdesk@linuxfoundation.org asking for a bugzilla account and we'll add it for you. | 15:46 |
| rburton | jclsn: please do | 15:47 |
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| RP | JPEW: I think there is a bug with the image manifest changes with spdx 2.2: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/80/builds/6896/steps/14/logs/stdio | 23:07 |
| RP | JPEW: I had a subset of your patches in -next, hoping to merge some of them | 23:07 |
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| RP | khem: just a heads up that https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=a19d2939aff01562e0afc15814e24cd844be3f38 may influence your builds | 23:17 |
| RP | khem: I'll write a better justification tomorrow about why we need to do this, at least for llvm | 23:17 |
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