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| qschulz | howdy | 09:32 |
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| qschulz | I've been asked how to "build an SDK with symbols in libraties (e.g. libstdc++)" | 09:33 |
| qschulz | I see that the SDK should already install dbg-pkgs? | 09:34 |
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| qschulz | is that only for target packages maybe and not sysroot? | 09:35 |
| qschulz | does anyone have hints at what to look at? | 09:35 |
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| mkoniarz | Hi, how to set root password in rootfs Yocto build? i tried: INHERIT += "extrausers" | 09:56 |
| mkoniarz | EXTRA_USERS_PARAMS = "usermod -p $(openssl passwd -1 <my_password>) root;" but this didn't work, also i tried add custom /etc/shadow in my recipe, but this file is replaced | 09:56 |
| qschulz | mkoniarz: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/classes.html#extrausers | 10:29 |
| qschulz | mkoniarz: use the commands we provide there to create the password | 10:30 |
| qschulz | (the printf one) | 10:30 |
| qschulz | store the output in a variable as well | 10:30 |
| qschulz | because having a hardcoded password is a bad idea but having it in plaintext is an even worse idea :) | 10:31 |
| mkoniarz | unpardes line: 'inherit extrausers' - in local.conf | 10:42 |
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| mkoniarz | qschulz: unparsed line :( what I'm doing wrong? | 10:45 |
| mkoniarz | INHERIT += " extrausers" do not work | 10:46 |
| mkoniarz | ok, in recipe it is OK, but no in local.conf.... | 11:00 |
| mkoniarz | I'm trying | 11:00 |
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| mkoniarz | it wont work - /etc/shadow still default, no root password :( | 11:33 |
| qschulz | mkoniarz: try with core-image-minimal with only poky meta layer to verify everything's fine | 11:44 |
| qschulz | mkoniarz: I';m also wondering if this isn't debug-tweaks in EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES by any chance? | 11:45 |
| mkoniarz | EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES:remove = "debug-tweaks" | 11:47 |
| qschulz | also empty-root-password it seems | 11:50 |
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| ray-san2 | i am curious, what are you guys using for build automatisation? i am playing around with buildbot, but i am not quite happy that piplines in buildbot are defined in the master configuration | 12:42 |
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| qschulz | ray-san2: the project itself is built with buildbot but I have no experience with those. I've set up Jenkins two years ago but we migrated to GitLab CI/CD about a year ago I think | 12:44 |
| qschulz | Is there a specific question you want to ask? | 12:44 |
| ray-san2 | qschulz: no specific question (yet), i am just curious and looking out for maybe better ideas before i invest too much time into buildbot :) | 12:46 |
| ray-san2 | was looking also into gitlab, my issue there was, that for getting pipelines there to work, your source code has also to be in the same repo, but i have already a solution for git. but maybe syncing to external repos would be an option | 12:49 |
| tgamblin | ray-san2: I use https://github.com/ohwgiles/laminar for automating a few builds locally. Its appeal is minimalism though, not features | 12:50 |
| ray-san2 | tgamblin: thanks for the input, i will look into that | 12:51 |
| qschulz | ray-san2: didn't get "your source code also has to be in the same repo" part | 12:54 |
| qschulz | ray-san2: FWIW, we use kas for setting up everything, they also have containers for building on too-old or too-recent host distributions | 12:57 |
| ray-san2 | qschulz: i am using a "git solution" from a different vendor, so all source code and recipes are sitting there. and build jobs are defined in a .gitlab-ci.yml inside of the repo, but as i have said, these files aren't sitting in a gitlab repo. | 12:58 |
| ray-san2 | qschulz: i am using also kas, but i had to build my own docker image because i need access to the hosts docker socket during the build of some images, and afaik this doesn't support kas-container or however the script is called | 12:59 |
| qschulz | ray-san2: what prevents you from mirroring the git repo into gitlab just for the CI? | 13:03 |
| qschulz | ray-san2: you can always try to contribute stuff back to kas-container, they are usually open to contribution IIRC | 13:03 |
| ray-san2 | qschulz: i guess nothing really, i guess gitlab can do this syncing/mirroring automatically, like gitea and such? | 13:04 |
| qschulz | ray-san2: seems like a pull is a paid feature | 13:05 |
| ray-san2 | meh :( | 13:06 |
| qschulz | c.f. https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/repository/mirror/ | 13:06 |
| qschulz | you can always have your own script doing this in a cronjob or have your "git solution" push to that gitlab repo too | 13:07 |
| ray-san2 | this may be an option...maybe trigger a sync via a webhook or something like that | 13:13 |
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| ldywicki | I've tried kas with gitlab ~3 years ago and had it almost working. I managed to get it to the stage where it was running kas itself, without container mainly to avoid complications with docker in docker (dind). I can't remember now if I attempted with kas-container or not. Its sometimes hard to manage all the yaml spaghetti. ;) I found working blueprint with github used by https://github.com/meta-homeassistant/meta-homeassistant | 13:22 |
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| qschulz | https://github.com/agherzan/meta-raspberrypi/ also has some workflow | 13:24 |
| qschulz | https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-arm uses gitlab and kas | 13:25 |
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| fotte_2 | Hi everyone. I got a question regarding OVERRIDES. From an example I found, i believe that override-chaining is possible like so: 'VAR = "foo"\n VAR:override-one = "foo-one"\n VAR:override-one:override-two = "foo-two"'. When any override (MACHINEOVER... DISTROOVERRI...) now contains "..:append = ":override-two", than my variable will have the value "foo-two", is that right? | 14:25 |
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| qschulz | fotte_2: only if "any override" also has override-one | 14:27 |
| qschulz | not sure what you're trying to achieve with VAR:override-one:override-two = "foo-two", can you explain? | 14:28 |
| qschulz | or maybe provide a real life example? | 14:28 |
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| guest92 | Hi everyone! I have a question regarding to volatile memory. How can I add in my recipe to write logs in volatile memory. It gives me error | 15:24 |
| fotte_2 | hi qschulz. I had trouble understanding some examples provided by meta-phytec, but now it makes some sense - especially regarding | 15:27 |
| fotte_2 | that "qschulz> fotte_2: only if "any override" also has override-one" | 15:28 |
| qschulz | fotte_2: see it as "stacking" | 15:28 |
| qschulz | fotte_2: though append, prepend and remove "stop" some level of "Stacking" | 15:29 |
| qschulz | it's honestly a bit difficult to explain :/ | 15:29 |
| qschulz | fotte_2: https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2022-05/talk/SCYYWD/ | 15:29 |
| qschulz | this is me and my presentation | 15:29 |
| qschulz | i made a few mistakes in there (specifically missing/spurious whitespaces IIRC) | 15:30 |
| qschulz | so if something is a bit odd, just ask and i'll check | 15:30 |
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| khem | bitbake operators are something ! I did not realize its quite a bit :) | 15:33 |
| khem | 100 slides almost | 15:34 |
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| qschulz | khem: and they sadly all have a purpose :( | 15:35 |
| khem | golang's operators fit into single page :) | 15:36 |
| qschulz | khem: though tbf, I write my slides so that nobody needs to attend the talk, so there's a lot there and some slides are present multiple times for... | 15:37 |
| qschulz | introducing.... | 15:37 |
| qschulz | ... | 15:37 |
| qschulz | suspens! | 15:37 |
| khem | your slides are superb btw. | 15:37 |
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| khem | I am just introspecting w.r.t OE here | 15:37 |
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| qschulz | thanks I really appreciate it | 15:38 |
| khem | guest92: which logs do you want to divert to volatile memory, bitbake's or the resulting app's ? | 15:38 |
| guest92 | khem resulting app | 15:39 |
| khem | qschulz: we need more of this stuff documented and recorded btw. | 15:39 |
| khem | guest92: for that bitbake and OE might not be in picture, you have to tool that in your app | 15:39 |
| qschulz | khem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gTjz1sju4 that kind of recording is what you meant? | 15:40 |
| khem | volatile memory is /tmp usually on linux systems if they implement File Heirarchy standards for FS layout | 15:40 |
| khem | qschulz:yeah any way that new users can learn from | 15:40 |
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| qschulz | khem: I really have no clue how we could write proper documentation for all the cases. It's something I've wanted to do for a long time but it just doesn't materialize in my head how to do this on paper | 15:42 |
| khem | megamanual is the place but then pick a subtopic and do an explainer | 15:42 |
| qschulz | khem: there was someone who sent on the ML about a sandboxed playground of bitbake, that could maybe help people do some experiments and us provide some examples that people can run from the browser too | 15:42 |
| qschulz | khem: well, most of it should be in the bitbake manual | 15:43 |
| qschulz | which i'm not sure many people are aware of | 15:43 |
| khem | yeah something like https://godbolt.org/ | 15:44 |
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| guest92 | khem install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/default/volatiles | 15:45 |
| guest92 | install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/app-1.0/app-volatile.conf ${D}${sysconfdir}/default/volatiles/99_app | 15:45 |
| guest92 | #Content of app-volatile.conf | 15:45 |
| guest92 | d root root 0755 /var/log/app none | 15:45 |
| guest92 | this was content of old recipe which doesn't work anymore | 15:45 |
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| qschulz | khem: from the ML, seems to be https://yoctoproject.github.io/bb-datastore-playground/ ? | 15:46 |
| qschulz | https://github.com/yoctoproject/bb-datastore-playground/ | 15:47 |
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| fotte_2 | @qschulz: thanks for the slides :) | 16:12 |
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| mbulut | any reason why the following should fail when executed in a recipe? | 19:40 |
| mbulut | curl -sS -D - https://auth.docker.io/token -o /dev/null | 19:40 |
| mbulut | curl: (6) Could not resolve host: auth.docker.io | 19:41 |
| mischief | mbulut: network is not allowed, probably | 19:43 |
| mbulut | but how can package sources be fetched when network is not allowed? | 19:44 |
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| mischief | mbulut: it's allowed on fetch only, i believe :-) | 19:46 |
| mbulut | interesting... | 19:48 |
| mbulut | i added do_compile[network] = "1" to the recipe and not it's able to resolve the host :) | 19:48 |
| mbulut | not = now | 19:48 |
| mbulut | mischief, thx -- it seems like you saved me some hours of sleep | 19:49 |
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| mischief | mbulut: it's not really a good idea to do that. you now get to keep the broken pieces :-) | 20:13 |
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| mbulut | with broken pieces you mean any stuff i download without sideways of the fetcher? | 20:15 |
| mbulut | (ignore the 'without') | 20:15 |
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| khem | ideally one would fix the build of the package to move this fetching part to SRC_URI if possible and check if the artifact exists then dont fetch is during do_compile such a patch can be upstreamed too | 21:29 |
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