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| MattWeb82 | I'm looking into using katacontainers from meta-virt and noticed some "broken, patches accepted". Figured I ask here while we dig for more details / fix it | 00:38 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:01 |
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| alessioigor | mckoan: to you | 07:06 |
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| landgraf | is docs.y.o down? | 09:42 |
| landgraf | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... | 09:43 |
| landgraf | s/down/veeeery slow/ | 09:44 |
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| mckoan | landgraf: fast as usual here | 09:54 |
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| fotte | mckoan: mcfrisk: Just in case anotherone asks the same question: The solution to get the devicetree into the rootfs (and therefor into the image), was a simpel IMAGE_INSTALL:append = " kernel-devicetree" - in my case. | 09:57 |
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| mckoan | fotte: thank you for sharing it | 10:04 |
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| landgraf | mckoan: and https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/ref-manual/variables.html?highlight=preferred_version ? both browser and wget take ages to open (tested from two different locations) | 10:11 |
| landgraf | in fact wget is trying to download the page for more than 20 minutes now variables.html?highlight=preferred_version 6%[+===> ] 63.48K --.-KB/s eta 3h 1m | 10:12 |
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| Guest13 | hi. assuming i have to build a yocto image for a system that has different requirements (e.g, different services running, configurations, etc...) X and Y. | 10:13 |
| Guest13 | is there any standard way of handling this? is creating separate layers for those the right approach? | 10:13 |
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| mckoan | landgraf: no problems here | 10:18 |
| mckoan | Guest13: depends (TM) | 10:18 |
| mckoan | Guest13: usually different services running, configurations, etc... can/should be in the same layer | 10:19 |
| mckoan | Guest13: usually a new layer is needed when you have a new set of features with the same purpose | 10:20 |
| Guest13 | And what is the preferred method of "controlling" which services I am gonna run? Is there some sort of tool for "profiles" ? | 10:22 |
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| rber|res | @flotte Yes this works, but then again it is most likely machine dependent, so you might want to have a look at my blog here: https://reliableembeddedsystems.com/blog/yocto-project-kernel-modules-not-showing-up-in-the-rootfs/ | 10:51 |
| rber|res | @Guest13 I would say that different services running/packages installed should be a an image recipe, configurations depends what you mean by that | 10:53 |
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| Guest13 | rber|res but do all software modules go into the image? how do you control what is running at runtime? my goal is to be able to switch from X to Y (so everything has to be in the image) | 10:55 |
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| rber|res | @Guest13 if you install a package it typically contains also the startup scripts. You could have different images with different packages installed. | 10:55 |
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| rber|res | @Guest13 All software modules you define an your image recipe go into the image. At least at this point you should know which services should run. Typically if you install a service it is started by default. | 10:57 |
| rber|res | @Guest13 You mean you want one image and then configure it manually? That's not quite the idea, but it is possible. | 10:58 |
| rber|res | @Guest13 do you have an example for switching from X to Y? | 10:59 |
| Guest13 | Well yes and no. X services can be enabled by default. But if I want, I should be able to switch to profile Y so i can re-use the board computer for another purpose if needed | 10:59 |
| Guest13 | If that makes sense | 11:00 |
| rber|res | @Guest13 With the Yocto Project you create your own custom distro, so you can do whatever you like, but typically you would ONLY install the packages, which are needed on your target. | 11:01 |
| rber|res | @Guest13 This would probably mean that if your target board is used for different project, than you create 2 different images. | 11:02 |
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| fotte | slides | 12:22 |
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| MattWeb82 | I'm looking into using katacontainers from meta-virt and noticed some "broken, patches accepted". Figured I ask here while we dig for more details / fix it | 14:14 |
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| khem | denix: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/88/builds/4058/steps/15/logs/stdio says ftgl is failing to build you touched it last time do we still need this recipe | 15:10 |
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| khem | pep-517 created implicit dep on cython which means .c files will be regenerated no matter if one want to use release tarballs and use the bundled .c files and cython offers no option like --sysroot so it happily encodes absolute paths into .c files, what a mess | 15:36 |
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| khem | It would have helped if the logic in backend would sense the existence of .c files and not rebuild them if user wanted to do so | 15:38 |
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| denix | khem: my change to it was global - https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/commit/?id=4c00e5fed9532fe6ee71ce96b0124fc234b44d4e | 15:43 |
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| rfs613 | a bit surprising to me: switching from SSD (SATA III 6gps) to NVMe (PCIe x4) did not change my yocto build times at all. I figured it would be at least partly I/O bound, but evidently not. | 15:44 |
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| qschulz | rfs613: did you benchmark both? | 15:56 |
| qschulz | also which gen of PCIe | 15:56 |
| qschulz | and are you sure the link is negotiated on 4 lanes? | 15:56 |
| rfs613 | qschulz: the drive is GEN4 but perhaps my mobo doesn't have all lanes enabled or working | 15:57 |
| rfs613 | I ran the same build on both (keeping the downloads directory, but wiping everything else sstate-cache, tmp-myboard, etc) | 15:58 |
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| rfs613 | mobo document says it supports PCIe x4/x2 | 16:00 |
| qschulz | rfs613: you can benchmark your disks with fio | 16:01 |
| qschulz | rfs613: which gen on the mobo AND CPU :) ? | 16:01 |
| qschulz | lspci -vv and look for LnkSta: | 16:02 |
| rfs613 | ah i was just digging into the "nvme" tool | 16:02 |
| qschulz | rfs613: be careful with fio, it can be run on block devices too, like dd, and thus be destructive | 16:02 |
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| rfs613 | qschulz: LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s (ok), Width x4 (ok) | 16:04 |
| qschulz | gen4 4 lanes then | 16:04 |
| qschulz | maybe the nvme isn't a good one? you can try to benchmark with fio | 16:05 |
| rfs613 | hmm, i have another one though, that's only 2.5GT/s and x1 | 16:05 |
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| rfs613 | now i have to figure out which one is which ;-) | 16:06 |
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| khem | rfs613: linux does good use of using ram as buffer, how much ram do you have ? | 16:28 |
| khem | secondly, which filesystem did you put on them hopefully same | 16:30 |
| rfs613 | khem: both ext4, both 1 TB total, both made with same mkfs.ext4 command | 16:41 |
| rfs613 | khem: machine has 32G and yes, about 27G of that shows up as buffer/cache typically | 16:41 |
| rfs613 | qschulz: did quick read test with hdparm -t, shows 535 MB/s for SATA (about what you'd expect) and about 2400 MB/s for the NVMe | 16:42 |
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| JaMa | zeddii: around? https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-virtualization/commit/?id=a940a0e873f9163d4585555b3f3d38e99400d237 doesn't seem to wrok well when PREFERRED_VERSION is set to e.g. "6.6.%", you remove the '%' but not the trailing dot and ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'yocto-cfg-fragments-6.6.-native'. Close matches: yocto-cfg-fragments-6.10-native yocto-cfg-fragments-6.6 yocto-cfg-fragments-6.6-native | 17:50 |
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| JaMa | zeddii: possible fix sent https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-virtualization/message/8863 | 18:39 |
| mischief | is there such a thing as combined features for machine+image? | 18:44 |
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| JaMa | machine+distro=combined | 20:02 |
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| mbulut | i have sth weird going on with one of my kernel append recipes: the recipe hierarchy is linux-imx_5.15.bbappend -> linux-imx_5.15.bbappend -> linux-imx_5.15.bb, where the middle one is in some intermediate layer | 20:30 |
| mbulut | in my append i provide a defconfig which i specify in SRC_URI and same goes for FILESEXTRAPATHS -- business as usual | 20:31 |
| mbulut | however when I try to access my defconfig via ${WORKDIR}/defconfig it's not there!? | 20:33 |
| mbulut | and when i inspect WORKDIR in the file system, the file is indeed not there? any idea how i could have managed to break something that fundamental? | 20:35 |
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| mbulut | inspecting the output of `bitbake -e linux-imx | grep ^FILESPATH` i can see my recipe folder | 20:42 |
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| JaMa | mbulut: latest oe-core? if yes, then check UNPACKDIR not WORKDIR | 21:56 |
| mbulut | no, it's kirkstone | 21:56 |
| mbulut | 4.0.2 | 21:56 |
| JaMa | did you check with bitbake-getvar or bitbake e, that it's in SRC_URI? | 21:57 |
| mbulut | yeah i did | 21:57 |
| JaMa | read log.do_unpack | 21:57 |
| mbulut | see my previous message, the folder is in FILESPATH | 21:58 |
| mbulut | what shall i look for in log.do_unpack? | 21:59 |
| mbulut | my recipe basically just provides some kernel config delta files to the linux-imx recipe | 22:00 |
| mbulut | the delta files are provided using SRC_URI and FILESEXTRAPATHS + a DELTA_KERNEL_DEFCONFIG variable that tells the upstream recipe "here are my deltas" | 22:02 |
| mbulut | but it can't find them in WORKDIR, although as said, i've done the usual things to do when adding files to a recipe | 22:03 |
| mbulut | i've put bb logs in the upstream recipe and my delta files just don't exist in that context (heck, they don't even exist in my bbappend when i try to access them from there) | 22:05 |
| mbulut | ohhhh fuck, no they aren't | 22:07 |
| mbulut | i had only checked FILESEXTRAPATHS | 22:07 |
| mbulut | they indeed aren't in SRC_URI | 22:07 |
| mbulut | is something overwriting SRC_URI? | 22:08 |
| JaMa | bitbake-getvar will tell you | 22:09 |
| mbulut | JaMa, thx mate that helped a ton! i didn't know about that command | 22:15 |
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| mbulut | i see 9 operations on the variable and if i assume correct to read it from top to bottom, some .inc file just = assigns to it so my stuff is gone | 22:17 |
| mbulut | but shouldn't my bbappend be processed last? how is that even possible? | 22:18 |
| JaMa | depends where the .inc file is included or if it uses some override etc, you can also use :append to defer appending your SRC_URI entries later, "bitbake -e" shows the same information as bitbake-getvar | 22:19 |
| JaMa | but you won't see if if you just grep for the variable (that's why in most cases I store the output in file, because you never know what next variable you might get interested in while reading the variable history) | 22:21 |
| mbulut | isn't :append equivalent to += except for the convenience space in the latter? | 22:22 |
| JaMa | no | 22:22 |
| mbulut | oh! | 22:23 |
| mbulut | i thought they were -- good to know | 22:24 |
| mbulut | changed it to append and i see my files now! at least in the variable | 22:25 |
| mbulut | dude | 22:25 |
| mbulut | thx a huge ton man | 22:25 |
| mbulut | i was going almost nuts on this | 22:25 |
| JaMa | learn to use bitbake-getvar every time something seems wrong with metadata, it's always right and helps with trivial cases like this or even with more complicated ones (or forgotten modifications in some long forgotten file) | 22:27 |
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| mbulut | yeah thx, i'll definitely stick that behind my ears | 22:31 |
| mbulut | i was using bitbake -e already (though i didn't know about the bitbake-getvar) but as you said, i almost always used it followed by a grep ^MYVAR as i didn't know that the output revealed information about the modification history of a given variable | 22:33 |
| mbulut | that's very useful to know | 22:34 |
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| josch91 | JPEW, tlwoerner: what is the current status of bmaptool? The last activity from you seems to have been in May. I'd like to contribute but would need some feedback for the 4 pull requests I filed. Thank you! | 23:19 |
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