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| usvi | can I remove stuff from FILES:${PN} via bbappend? | 05:11 |
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| usvi | or is remove even needed... | 05:19 |
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| paulg | can't pull from git.yoctoproject.org -- assuming it is the friggin bot swarm again. :-( | 05:42 |
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| kanavin | rburton, I don't. We should obsolete esdk bundles and tell ppl to set up yocto directly :) | 05:49 |
| khem | paulg: yeah nost likely | 05:55 |
| khem | even git.oe.org is down | 05:56 |
| khem | usvi: you can remove from FILES:PN using:remove yes | 05:56 |
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| paulg | khem, I really wish there was a way to hold these scumbags accountable. Reading more and more stories of how people are out thousands of dollars for upload bandwidth charges. | 06:02 |
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| Guest21 | Hi, anyone else can't clone poky? | 06:06 |
| paulg | Guest21, servers are struggling trying to fend off AI bot crawlers. | 06:06 |
| paulg | https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/ | 06:07 |
| usvi | khem: ok thanks for clarification | 06:11 |
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| Guest21 | Thanks | 06:20 |
| eduter | Crofton I saw an article yesterday talking about Zepto Linux... I am not sure I fully understood what it does... I read it will use AI to configure a Yocto build system, where every configuration is enable and taken into account and it is the job of the AI to select the best configuration out of all the possibilities to build your customize OS... | 06:23 |
| eduter | is that true? | 06:23 |
| eduter | Can someone please in simple words state what is the advantatge of Zepto Linux for Yocto build systems and Yocto developers? | 06:23 |
| usvi | oh boy | 06:23 |
| eduter | sorry if it is a too generic question... maybe I need to do more reading. | 06:24 |
| usvi | we were just discussing here how AI scrapers are molesting the servers hosting yocto related repositories | 06:26 |
| eduter | usvi ooops :S | 06:26 |
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| mckoan | eduter: Zepto Linux was an April's fool joke :-D | 06:46 |
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| eduter | mckoan ok... I felt for it... '=D | 06:47 |
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| eduter | Is there an issue with this link git://git.yoctoproject.org/git/meta-lts-mixins my yocto build system cannot find it.. but that is the link I have got from https://web.git.yoctoproject.org/meta-lts-mixins/? | 07:04 |
| eduter | "meta-chromium" layer depends on it. | 07:04 |
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| mckoan | eduter: poastebin the error | 07:07 |
| eduter | mckoan | 07:11 |
| eduter | part of the logs generated by the git repo tool to fetch the repo's in my manifest, I am using in my python script, which is trying to fetch the meta-lts-mixins layer: | 07:11 |
| eduter | ... | 07:11 |
| eduter | repo has been initialized in /build/yocto | 07:11 |
| eduter | error: Cannot fetch meta-lts-mixins from https://git.yoctoproject.org/git/meta-lts-mixins | 07:11 |
| eduter | ... | 07:11 |
| kanavin | eduter, what does 'git clone ...' say? | 07:12 |
| eduter | the part in my manifest xml: | 07:12 |
| eduter | <project name="meta-lts-mixins" path="sources/meta-lts-mixins" remote="https://git.yoctoproject.org/git" upstream="scarthgap/rust" revision="1793a1b8fc92cf8688c72b7fd4181e3a2f5ade55" /> | 07:12 |
| kanavin | you're probably hitting the same server overload as everyone else. address you concerns to AI companies :( | 07:13 |
| eduter | kanavin actually I manually run on a different terminal and directory "git clone git://git.yoctoproject.org/git/meta-lts-mixins/" and it worked :S | 07:14 |
| kanavin | then try again with repo | 07:14 |
| kanavin | are you using git:// or http:// ? those are different protocols | 07:15 |
| eduter | kanavin I tried 3 times and it failed, I will give it another try... I am using https protocol on my manifest... I will try manually cloning using https. | 07:15 |
| eduter | kanavin git clone https://git.yoctoproject.org/git/meta-lts-mixins/ worked when I run it manually on a terminal on a test directory | 07:16 |
| eduter | kanavin manually tested it using both protocols, will try again from my yocto build repo :-) | 07:17 |
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| eduter | kanavin I had connectivity issues probably for whatever reason... my network, server overload... I don't know, but now it seems to be able to check it out... Sorry, false alarm. | 07:23 |
| eduter | kanavin I will not post a question "so quickly" if I face connectivity issues. Will try a couple of times. | 07:24 |
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| RP | Does anyone have git command/tag knowledge? I tried adding tag verification to some recipes and it isn't quite working due to the tags having a different sha from the thing which they tag :/ | 07:50 |
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| LetoThe2nd | RP: IIRC there is some flag to tag creation (-a?) which causes the tag to have its own sha. | 07:51 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: right, and we don't handle that in the new code :( | 07:53 |
| paulg | you can also do, for example: "git show v6.6" vs. "git show v6.6^{}" to get at the commit that is tagged. | 07:54 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: please verify my statement though, my recollection is shaky. | 07:54 |
| RP | We're doing "git rev-list -n 1 <tag>" which I think works for annotated and non-annotated tags | 07:55 |
| RP | I think devtool upgrade may be giving the annotated sha and the issue may be there | 07:55 |
| RP | or I just shove both hashes through rev-list I guess and have bitbake accept this | 07:57 |
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| RP | https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/commit/?h=master-next&id=cb5269d1dab4f4dab0e9f13dca7093fd1d539d6b but that seems horrible. Am I missing something? :/ | 08:02 |
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| JaMa | RP: FWIW in webos we enforce using annotated tags for our recipes, to track who created the tag as well (not just the committer of the last change) | 08:54 |
| JaMa | but we do it in do_unpack[postfuncs] in not so nice code https://github.com/webosose/meta-webosose/blob/master/meta-webos/classes/webos_enhanced_submissions.bbclass | 08:55 |
| JaMa | the main part is 'git show-ref -d --tags refs/tags/%s' and checking that SRCREV matches one of them (in our case triggering error when it matches only the dereferenced one) | 08:58 |
| RP | JaMa: good news is you might just be able to use the fetcher for that in future | 09:03 |
| RP | at least for the matches part anyway | 09:03 |
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| JaMa | yeah, if I'll be working on webos again in future :) | 09:15 |
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| RP | JaMa: Is that unlikely? | 09:17 |
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| JaMa | don't know myself | 09:20 |
| RP | JaMa: ah :/ | 09:21 |
| * RP wonders how much pain the whitespace change I just posted will cause. I'd be interested to know how it looks for other layers. I think core/meta-oe should be okish | 09:22 | |
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| JaMa | I was wondering about it as well, I expect every 2nd line in meta-qti to trigger it :/ that's why I was asking about the migration script | 09:25 |
| RP | JaMa: sadly I don't have such a script but I suspect someone will write one | 09:27 |
| JaMa | right, I was just surprised that you've fixed meta-oe manually | 09:28 |
| JaMa | naive git grep to check how bad our layers are isn't very usefull as theare are many valid cases for e.g. = without space around (like shell variables, OECONF, OECMAKE, ..) will apply your bitbake change and check if I can fix it by parsing the shown warnings | 09:31 |
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| RP | JaMa: that is probably the easiest way to do it | 09:36 |
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| JaMa | RP: I have some whitespace warnings stats for layers in one of my builds, meta-oe 3, meta-tensorflow 5, meta-clang 10, meta-gplv2 6, meta-*webos* (including internal) 237!, meta-qti (internal) 117, meta-virtualization 854 | 10:13 |
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| JaMa | hopefully zeddii will be able to update meta-virtualization with the script he is using for updating the SRCREVs, because 769 of those warnings are from SRCREV lines | 10:14 |
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| JaMa | err not 237 for meta-*webos* but 1084, but 200+ also in one generated file | 10:20 |
| JaMa | but also the bbclasses can trigger the same warning multiple times, so it's only 357 uniq ones, not so bad | 10:22 |
| Crofton | Speaking of AI crawlers: https://bsky.app/profile/mariafarrell.bsky.social/post/3llt55vssk22u | 10:22 |
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| RP | JaMa: could be worse I guess! | 10:33 |
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| JaMa | I've a silly script which seems to work in most cases, will share it after a bit more testing | 11:02 |
| RP | JaMa: sounds good thanks | 11:02 |
| JaMa | "in most cases" was too optimistic, will need to debug it a bit more after taking care of kids | 11:08 |
| JaMa | is there a simple way of printing not fn (which seems to be the recipe the line ends in) but the actual file (e.g. .inc, .bbclass or .bbappend) from the parser? | 11:10 |
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| JaMa | sorry my bad, it's there | 11:11 |
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| Crofton | Rp whitespace change? April 1? | 12:54 |
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| JaMa | Crofton: only around assignments, unfortunately not 4 spaces instead of tabs | 13:31 |
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| RP | Crofton: I deliberately didn't send this yesterday! | 13:34 |
| RP | jonmason, rburton: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/75/builds/1279/steps/12/logs/warnings - hopefully easily fixed | 13:38 |
| rburton | will fix up shortly | 13:39 |
| RP | rburton: intel only has 6 ;-) | 13:41 |
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| RP | kanavin: I wonder if we should put AUH onto a separate mailing list and let it run more often | 14:28 |
| RP | kanavin: I took most of the successes but not python3-iniconfig, sbc, util-linux or xz as they had license changes that need checking into | 14:29 |
| RP | kanavin: AUH seems faster and in some ways having it running a bit more regularly might be helpful in helping pull in upgrades more regularly, not sure | 14:30 |
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| khem | RP: I am seeing this QA error on master - ERROR: rust-llvm-1.85.1-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: /usr/lib/llvm-rust/lib/libLLVM.so.19.1 contained in package rust-llvm requires libedit.so.0()(64bit), but no providers found in RDEPENDS:rust-llvm? [file-rdeps] | 14:35 |
| khem | I think its related to your change switching to use shared libs in rust-llvm | 14:35 |
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| RP | khem: we're seeing it on the autobuilder too :( | 14:38 |
| RP | khem: somehow it didn't show up in the original testing | 14:38 |
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| RP | khem: well, the error on the autobuilder is different but the same libedit problem. I think there is a non-deterministic dependency somewhere | 14:39 |
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| khem | RP: in meta-clang we have a knob for libedit and its on by default maybe we need -DLLVM_ENABLE_LIBEDIT=ON added | 14:40 |
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| khem | and add libedit to deps | 14:41 |
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| RP | khem: do we actually need that dependency, could we turn it off? | 14:42 |
| RP | khem: but yes, we probably need the config setting one way or another | 14:43 |
| khem | usually tab completions are where its needed for llvm there are tools which will use it if enabled but for rust I dont think it will matter | 14:43 |
| khem | since option handling is not delegated to llvm AFAIK | 14:43 |
| RP | khem: right, I think it is better turned off for rust. Even for llvm-native, we might want the performance win since we're probably not using tab completion there much for normal builds? | 14:44 |
| khem | for clang it is a packageconfig which is on by default | 14:44 |
| khem | so one can turn off if they wished | 14:44 |
| RP | khem: I can try adding a patch for -DLLVM_ENABLE_LIBEDIT=OFF for rust? | 14:44 |
| khem | if we are not using anything interactive it perhaps has less value | 14:45 |
| khem | yes go ahead | 14:45 |
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| RP | khem: I've sent a patch, I'll queue it for testing | 14:46 |
| JaMa | some assignments have too few spaces around, some too many, some developers care some don't at all these are 3 lines next to each other in one of meta-qti recipes: | 14:47 |
| JaMa | SRC_URI +="file://time_serviced.service" | 14:47 |
| JaMa | SRC_URI += "file://time-services-tmpfilesd.conf" | 14:47 |
| JaMa | SRC_URI =+ "file://time-services.rules" | 14:47 |
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| RP | JaMa: I found all kinds of things sorting this too :/ | 14:48 |
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| JaMa | khem: will send whitespace PR for meta-clang shortly and one for meta-virtualization for zeddii as well | 14:58 |
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| kanavin | RP: hiding AUH output into its own list will make people oblivious of the continuous need to keep things updated. Especially for unassigned recipes. I don't have a super strong opinion either way, but consider the downsides. I need to eat now :) | 14:58 |
| kanavin | once I've eaten I will maybe have more to say, or maybe this should be raised in some kind of zoom meeting? | 14:59 |
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| khem | JaMa:thanks, I think it will trip lot of folks once they upgrade and whitespaces becomes the error | 15:00 |
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| RP | kanavin: definitely would need wider discussion, I'm just thinking out loud. The maintainers would get more frequent reminders which would either nudge them to do something or cause them to unlist themselves | 15:00 |
| JaMa | khem: there are 18 warnings from meta-clang but caused by only 3 lines (LLVM_LIBDIR_SUFFIX=" from clang.inc causing most of them) | 15:01 |
| khem | yeah it is included in all clang originating recipes | 15:01 |
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| khem | AUH upgrades perhaps own list + maintainer in to would be good | 15:02 |
| kanavin | khem, the problem is, most maintainers already ignore AUH | 15:02 |
| kanavin | own list has potential to make things worse, not better | 15:03 |
| khem | yeah I am one of them, one reason to ignore is that its patchbomb | 15:03 |
| kanavin | patchbomb in what sense? | 15:03 |
| khem | many patches out of which a maintainer might care for one or two | 15:04 |
| khem | attention is the priceless thing in this world these days, we all are distracted and short of tiem | 15:05 |
| kanavin | khem, yes that requres a bit of filter tweaking in the mail client - the recipes for which you are the listed maintainer have you in To:. Everything else you receive via oe-core. | 15:05 |
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| kanavin | we can also tweak this on the AUH side, but I'd want to be able to see the full bomb. | 15:06 |
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| RP | kanavin: I'm not sure seeing all the emails on the core list is encouraging anyone :/ | 15:10 |
| RP | I am just thinking out loud though... | 15:10 |
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| kanavin | RP, maybe just the summary could go to oe-core. It has a tarball attachment with all the individual patches and reports. | 15:11 |
| RP | kanavin: that could work | 15:13 |
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| kanavin | RP, I've been abused in the past by some anonymous oe-core subscriber who aggressively demanded the patchbombs must be stopped, because he doesn't like inbox clutter. | 15:15 |
| khem | in other world QT gerrit seems to have enabled AI bots in review so you get tonnes of emails which is a bit offputting to tell you the truth | 15:15 |
| kanavin | so the goal should be to encourage contributions, not reduce clutter. | 15:15 |
| RP | kanavin: the question is whether those emails are helping and I'm not sure they are. Keeping the summaries visible would be good though, definitely agreed there | 15:16 |
| khem | they are helpful for sure but maybe somewhere else on open inbox perhaps | 15:17 |
| khem | I can not pick them using lore thats another problem | 15:17 |
| khem | so I have to download them from inbox | 15:17 |
| kanavin | khem, I just received an AI response from an online shop where I ordered something, and 5 days later is still hasn't shipped. I know it's AI because the response arrived seconds after I sent a question. And it 'reassures' me in that well familiar AI style - 'we're on it, don't worry'. | 15:17 |
| khem | its little things like that | 15:17 |
| kanavin | khem, what is lore, and how do you get patches there? | 15:18 |
| khem | https://lore.kernel.org/ | 15:18 |
| khem | oe-core and oe-devel ml are already captured | 15:18 |
| khem | RP:maybe we should request to capture yocto-patches ml as well on https://lore.kernel.org/ | 15:19 |
| kanavin | khem, but the patches are there, e.g. https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-core/01010195f160e849-113e380b-2a8e-4454-afc0-dd14418cbf03-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com/T/#u | 15:19 |
| kanavin | the actual patch in that email comes both inline and as attachment | 15:20 |
| RP | khem: definitely, that is a bit of an oversight! | 15:20 |
| kanavin | we specifically made sure it can be applied directly | 15:20 |
| khem | kanavin:b4 did not work with it last time I tried | 15:20 |
| khem | b4 shazam <URI> | 15:20 |
| khem | should get me the patch | 15:20 |
| khem | and git am it as well | 15:20 |
| RP | khem: yocto-patches is there FWIW | 15:22 |
| khem | kanavin:it seems to work now thats an improvement so cool | 15:23 |
| khem | but the spam effect still stays, I can get the notification and fetch it from lore from a different ml is good | 15:23 |
| khem | RP: oh so quick ? | 15:24 |
| khem | of there are all - https://lore.kernel.org/?q=yocto | 15:24 |
| RP | khem: was already there | 15:25 |
| khem | thats good | 15:25 |
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| RP | khem: that does seem to fix the clang builds | 17:47 |
| RP | vmeson: we have a fix for the libedit issue | 17:48 |
| khem | cool | 17:49 |
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| vmeson | RP: phew! I had been side-tracked so I'm glad you have a solution. | 18:19 |
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| RP | hmm, github security warnings for meta/lib/oeqa/files/maturin/guessing-game/Cargo.toml | 19:46 |
| RP | rust having a security issue due to C | 19:47 |
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| khem | RP:something broke uim builds in meta-oe on AB, it works ok on my local machines its a random segfault dont know which tool is causing it, but it seems to be consistent | 20:13 |
| khem | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/81/builds/535 | 20:13 |
| khem | something got into either core or meta-oe more likely core | 20:14 |
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| khem | this is the first build that failed https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/81/builds/532 | 20:14 |
| khem | nothing seems that I pushed could have caused it | 20:15 |
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| RP | khem: seems odd, I'm not aware of pushing anything that looks related to that either. I haven't changed master for a few days due to the release | 20:19 |
| khem | I am carrying this mpfr upgrade to 4.2.2 in my tree so I wonder if its that | 20:20 |
| khem | Let me try a build without it | 20:20 |
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| khem | do we generate cores on builders ? | 20:21 |
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| RP | khem: not really, no | 20:28 |
| RP | it would be nice but hard to find people to work on maintaining that kind of thing | 20:29 |
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| khem | yeah ok. | 20:44 |
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