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| [2025-04-09 07:29:00] <ernstp> Can I make a variable "survive" reparsing? So I know that it's being reparsed? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 08:30:06] <RP> ernstp: only by writing something to disk and reading it back | ||
| [2025-04-09 08:31:45] <ernstp> RP: still struggling with an old idea I had that mostly works fine... but sometimes not :-) | ||
| [2025-04-09 08:32:44] <ernstp> RP: I want to run a query in the current bitbake invocation, and then don't rerun the query again. | ||
| [2025-04-09 08:57:48] <RP> ernstp: save to disk and always reload if present instead of querying? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 08:59:13] <ernstp> RP: but I don't know if it's the first invocation of the function in this bitbake session or if I'm being reparsed... ? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 09:05:17] <LetoThe2nd> ernstp: what is the actual use case? sounds like you're trying to cheat the reproducibility safeguards. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:06:31] <bhstalel> Preserving packages database in rootfs requires always "package-management" feature ? what if installing only "dpkg" without IMAGE_FEATURES(package-management) as an example ? | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:08:18] <ernstp> LetoThe2nd: I want to query the current version of ITEM from a service and then use that during the build. But if the build takes a while the version might be updated during the build, and the "reparsing" can break that | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:08:34] <RP> ernstp: check DATETIME ? | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:09:10] <RP> ernstp: that should only change at reparse | ||
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| [2025-04-09 09:10:18] <ernstp> RP: hmmm I don't follow. how can I tell the difference between two different builds and two parsings? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 09:10:24] <LetoThe2nd> ernstp: ... which basically exactly what I meant. You're creating a build which is not reproducible because run at different points in time it will yield different results. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:10:43] <ernstp> LetoThe2nd: It's like git AUTOINC | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:10:44] <RP> ernstp: the value of DATETIME is locked for a given build/parse | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:11:00] <LetoThe2nd> ernstp: no because fetch only happens once. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:11:09] <LetoThe2nd> ernstp: and its also not reproducible. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:12:00] <LetoThe2nd> ernstp: I mean, I get the value for development, but for prod its a really bad idea. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:12:48] <RP> doing things like that definitely has reproducibility problems | ||
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| [2025-04-09 09:21:30] <Tyaku> Hello, did someone have a link to a tutorial about "how to build an out of tree module using the Yocto toolchain" ? I have an issue building an out-of-tree module using the toolchain, and made an exemple here with a simple module: https://pastebin.com/AKRvusTp The problem is: The building is OK, and the module can be executed on the target. BUT the module can't be removed ! it is marked as [permanent] when | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:21:36] <Tyaku> I run 'cat /proc/modules | grep ktest' I get this: 'ktest_module 16384 0 [permanent], Live 0xffff800008abf000 (O)' That is the reason why it cannot be removed. | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:21:54] <Tyaku> I think this is a building issue, because when it is build from Yocto using a recipe, then it can be removed | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:22:15] <Tyaku> But When built from the toolchain, the driver can't be removed using "rmmod". | ||
| [2025-04-09 09:37:02] <Tyaku> Yeah I always have dummy issues :/ | ||
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| [2025-04-09 09:58:21] <ernstp> LetoThe2nd: I also want this code to only run once, like setting git AUTOINC/AUTOREV. So it would work in the same style | ||
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| [2025-04-09 12:17:19] <ernstp> RP: I think I managed to work something out with DATETIME, thanks! | ||
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| [2025-04-09 15:48:23] <kilobyte_ch> Any good idea if there is some intelligent way to package all files from IMAGE_BOOT_FILES into a custom package in a bitbake recipe? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 17:00:07] <kylex> I have run into some issue which I don't understand. I have two multiconfig targets (both cortexa9t2hf-neon), one uses musl and the other glibc. If I build the musl version first and then the glibc it works. But it seems like building the glibc config breaks musl. When building musl target, libgcc.inc do_install:append creates a link in sysroots-components named arm-poky-linux-gnueabi pointing to arm-poky-linux-musleabi. Won't this make building the glibc | ||
| [2025-04-09 17:00:07] <kylex> target overwrite/clear the musl files? | ||
| [2025-04-09 17:03:20] <kylex> It seems I can work around this using a custom distro which sets the TCLIBCAPPEND = "-${TCLIBC}" however TCLIBCAPPEND is removed in Styhead since "sharing TMPDIR for multiple libc providers has been supported for years". Am I doing something wrong? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 17:46:00] <tlwoerner> the latest pseudo issue, does it have a bugzilla? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 18:20:15] <RP> tlwoerner: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:21:22] <fray> ahh that's the pci/rm race | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:23:36] <RP> fray: was tlwoerner referring to another? | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:24:28] <fray> I don't know | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:26:15] <tlwoerner> RP: i was late to the latest technical call and was asking about the one you were mentioning there. the status email talks about a pseudo bug too, but doesn't reference a bugzilla for it | ||
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| [2025-04-09 18:27:47] <tlwoerner> all of my oe-selftest tests on poky's master-next are failing because virglrenderer is throwing a build error | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:28:00] <tlwoerner> it looks like it's using the native gcc? | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:28:05] <RP> tlwoerner: I was referring to the above one | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:28:15] <tlwoerner> RP: great, thanks | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:29:11] <tlwoerner> RP: should it be categorized under pseudo instead of oe-core:oe-core? | ||
| [2025-04-09 18:32:34] <RP> tlwoerner: probably, it wasn't really understood initially | ||
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| [2025-04-09 19:57:21] <khem> kylex:its something we need to fix I guess, using libc specific tmpdir was papering over some such issues I guess | ||
| [2025-04-09 19:58:07] <khem> tlwoerner: virglrenderer-native will use host gcc | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:02:52] <zeddii> JPEW, you've debugged bitbake more than I have. Where are the parsing logs stored ? I want to fix some operator whitespace issues, but can't for the life of me capture the log of the parsing. | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:06:43] <JPEW> zeddii: Do you have an example of what you want to log? | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:07:27] <zeddii> whatever it is spitting out to the console when I build with the whitespace changes. sec. I'll pastebin it | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:09:24] <zeddii> https://justpaste.it/ix1j6 | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:09:36] <zeddii> I can't figure out WTF those warnings are written to a file. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:09:52] <zeddii> and I can't redirect it to anywhere on the command line of course. | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:16:06] <fray> should be written to the tmp/log/<machine>/console-latest.log | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:20:49] <zeddii> I don't see the warnings in there. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:21:09] <fray> I'm not sure then, that is odd | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:21:23] — zeddii greps | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:21:30] <zeddii> I need something to feed to a script to fix them. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:21:40] <JPEW> Huh, that's bizzare. I wonder if that's a bug in the default logging configuration | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:22:02] <zeddii> let me clear the cache and try again. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:22:38] <zeddii> I may have done another run after and the parsing was cached, hence no output | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:23:55] <zeddii> ahah. there is is. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:23:56] <zeddii> I didn | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:24:02] <RP> zeddii: tmp/log/cooker/<machine>/ should have them | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:24:09] <zeddii> problem solved. now to get chatgpt to write me a script | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:24:19] <RP> zeddii: didn't martin mail one? | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:24:26] <zeddii> I couldn't find the mail | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:24:30] <zeddii> I searched, but didn't see it. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:25:10] <RP> zeddii: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/message/17516 | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:26:25] <zeddii> ahah. cool. I checked oe-core and meta-oe. | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:34:01] <zeddii> and crap. too much line breaking on that to just save the script and run it. | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:35:14] <RP> can't help with that I'm afraid, my email copy is wrapped as well | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:35:34] <zeddii> I'll spend more time wondering which line is which, than just generating my own. | ||
| [2025-04-09 20:35:57] <RP> zeddii: JaMa might be around and have a copy? | ||
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| [2025-04-09 20:41:17] <zeddii> I've mostly fixed it up now, I'm just not sure if the sed expressions had a trailing space or not due to wrapping. | ||
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| [2025-04-09 21:42:14] <tlwoerner> khem: looks like i'll have to switch to using the hosttools once that hits master, any idea what is the minimum required gcc? my host is using 12.3.0, but i do have packages for 14 | ||
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| [2025-04-09 22:51:00] <JaMa> yeah I have a copy if you still need it | ||
| [2025-04-09 22:51:52] <JaMa> zeddii: https://github.com/shr-project/meta-webosose/blob/jansa/master/meta-webos/scripts/add-whitespace-around-assignment.sh | ||
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