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RPkanavin: I updated and had some successful builds but also saw a lot of this: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/2/builds/256507:03
RPkanavin: what is odd is that some succeeded so it doesn't make sense07:03
RPkanavin: the settings change looks really nice btw, it did clean up the call in helper too07:04
RPkanavin: if I run that on the worker without the --non-interactive and don't specify poky-master, it doesn't list any available configs yet the default-registry is there07:07
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RPkanavin: ah, it is writing a global settings file which is then corrupting the other builds07:10
RPkanavin: can I tell it to only write the settings locally? or could we default to that?07:11
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RPI've hopefully worked around that but I think it is a valid usage question and should probably default to local, not global07:16
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kanavinRP: I need to think about it, one obstacle is that the setting for top dir prefix/name has to go somewhere global :-/07:43
kanavinone option is to write nothing and fall back to internal defaults07:45
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kanavinthat would also please those who don't like bitbake-setup polluting ~/.cache and ~/.config07:46
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kanavinRP: I'll do a followup patch, but a 2h bike ride first :)08:21
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RPrburton: you know what we were saying: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/37/builds/2684 :(11:34
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jclsnIs this language server fully LSP compliant? https://www.npmjs.com/package/language-server-bitbake12:38
jclsnI am getting errors about unsupported messages from the server when using https://github.com/yegappan/lsp12:38
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rburtonRP: goddamnut12:39
rburtonjclsn: its primary development is for vscode but iirc aims to work with others. feel free to file a bug with the errors.12:40
rburtonthere were patches to make it work with vim in the past, maybe something broke12:40
rburtonRP: loving how even the reproducible tests are not reproducible12:41
rburtonRP: so i've always just opened every folder until i find the right one, but how do i map an AB build to the random letters after the date in the repro-fail directory?12:42
rburtonor is that mktemp so you can't12:43
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RPrburton: it looks like stackprotection being turned on/off maybe?12:43
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RPrburton: and yes, the irony of reproducible tests...12:44
RPrburton: look at the log in https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/37/builds/2684/steps/13/logs/stdio12:45
RPrburton: you can see the directory printed in there12:45
RP2025-10-09 07:21:44,528 - oe-selftest - INFO - Non-reproducible packages will be copied to /srv/autobuilder/valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20251009-5xzw_ymx12:45
RPI just copy and paste that into a link12:46
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rburtonaha!12:46
rburtonthanks12:46
RPrburton: the path is a url for ease :)12:46
rburtonone of those things where buildbot needs a way to sweep a log for a regex and expose it as a link12:47
rburton"this looks like a reproducible build run, have a link to the data"12:47
RPrburton: there is code that nearly can so that - the way it filters warnings and errors12:47
RPrburton: perhaps if we asked mathieudb nicely he might do that? :)12:47
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rburtonA is from sstate right12:48
rburtondiffoscope is obviously bad here and doesn't actually just dump the string table like it should, but the difference appears to be the A build has the poky repo sha in the version string still12:50
rburtonwhich would be because the ceiling dir isn't in the hash so wouldn't have caused a rebuild12:50
RPrburton: yes, A is sstate12:51
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rburtonthat other change should have caused a rebuild and not sstate reuse though12:51
RPrburton: right :/12:51
rburtonthe B build is no sha as expected12:51
rburton(important block is the strings output)12:51
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RPrburton: right, I was misreading the stack guard thing12:55
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RPrburton: so the taskhashes haven't worked as hoped :/12:56
RPbumping this to fix an problem like this painful too12:56
RPrburton: I think https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=e97e69c71605bef6c3cdad0e51975bd9f8c51256 is the way we have to do it13:02
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rburtonstill unsure how the data is cached though, can't see how even with hashequiv it would have decided to match them up13:04
rburtonunless lld doesn't respect that version variable so the ceiling change actually fixed the build but the old one comes out of sstate, but i don't remember doing a build on the AB in that combination13:05
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rburtoni can test that easily enough13:06
jclsnrburton: Yeah, would like to but can't seem to get the full error message13:06
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rburtonRP: though why wouldn't something else to trigger a reconfigure do the right thing, as the final output will be different (as the version will be without the sha)13:07
RPrburton: hashequivalence bites us horribly in this case :(13:08
RPrburton: since this build passed, those two outputs are marked as equivalent13:08
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bhstalelwhy isn't something like (:remove) for the datastore object ? like : d.removeFromVar(VAR, TO_REMOVE)14:05
rburtonpatches welcome, i guess14:07
rburtonalthough would your d.removeFromVar remove at that point, or have the same behaviour as :remove?14:07
bhstalelI want the same behaviour as :remove (remove at the end of the variable expansion)14:08
bhstalelI guess we can support both, like d.removeFromVar(VAR, TO_REMOVE, IMMEDIATE) where IMMEDIATE is True or False14:08
reatmon_I'm seeing a new error on master builds.  Is anyone seeing it?14:09
reatmon_ERROR: Task /scratch/builds/arago-master-wip/build/sources/oe-core/meta/recipes-devtools/clang/clang_git.bb:do_package has circular dependency on /scratch/builds/arago-master-wip/build/sources/oe-core/meta/recipes-devtools/clang/clang_git.bb:do_packagedata14:09
reatmon_ERROR: Command execution failed: 114:09
rburtonreatmon_: literally just did a build of clang, worked fine. can you replicate with just poky?14:09
reatmon_I'll try14:10
rburtonbitbake -n should let you do the test in seconds without needing a build14:11
reatmon_I already have some poky builds in the queue and about to get to this point in the flow.  Just waiting...14:12
reatmon_We are including meta-clang...  I wonder if something there is causing this...14:13
rburtonpossibly14:13
rburtoni hope that layer dies soon :)14:14
reatmon_poky build without meta-clang is working14:14
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reatmon_hrm.  removing meta-clang from our arago build did not fix it.  Time to dive deeper14:19
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rburtonreatmon_: did you get pointed at https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20251005-7z0pvbd7/packages/diff-html/?  for some reason linux-firmware has an empty eagleIII.fw in some builds. considering that's one of the unknown license files, i wonder if the remove logic needs improving.14:46
rburtonreatmon_: looking at the remove logic, might be easier to just remove the files and then separately prune empty directories14:47
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reatmon_So the file exists (ie not removed) but is 0 length?  Or the same size, just blank?14:51
reatmon_how could the remove logic need anything different than rm ?  I'm confused.14:54
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mathieudbRP: rburton: I just saw the discussion about parsing logs to extract yocto.io links. And YES, I never thought about it but we should definitely do that.15:01
mathieudbRP: rburton: I will work on that in the coming days15:01
rburtonnice15:01
rburtonreatmon_: same size but nulls and yes wtf no idea15:02
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yoctonmathieudb: may I ask that you also supports repro-meta-openembedded links? "2025-05-17 15:19:04,641 - oe-selftest - INFO - Non-reproducible packages will be copied to /srv/autobuilder/valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail-openembedded/meta-oe/oe-reproducible-20250517-bm6qomlh"15:21
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mathieudbyocton: I will keep this in mind, thanks. But I bet it will be something like "*.yocto.io/*" as we also have the ptest failures log links15:33
yoctonmathieudb: that was also my bet :-)15:33
mathieudb(a bit smarter than that, because "*.yocto.io/*" will match a bit too much)15:33
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RPmathieudb: thanks!15:38
reatmon_@rburton, Found my clang problem.  I missed some PREFERRED_PROVIDERS when trying to remove meta-clang from meta-arago-distro.  Those were the culprit.15:38
rburtonah cool15:38
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rburtonRP: $ python --version15:39
rburtonPython 3.14.015:39
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rburtonnon-free-threaded 3.14 is about the same speed15:45
rburtonfree-threaded is 30s instead of 25s in my setup for the parse15:45
rburton(test case is bitbake -m ; rm cache/ tmp/cache/ -rf ;  time bitbake -p)15:45
rburtoncompared to 3.12, that is15:45
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RPrburton: nice :)15:50
RPnice it didn't explode!15:50
rburtonyeah thats a good start15:51
rburtonliterally just the parse though15:51
RPrburton: that is testing a decent chunk of the code15:51
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rburtoni can fire a build tonight15:52
rburtonuv did the right thing, fwiw. mkdir foo; cd foo; uv venv --python 3.14t; . .venv/bin/activate15:53
rburtongrabs python binaries from https://github.com/astral-sh/python-build-standalone which i'm now bookmarking15:53
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khemRP: perf race is still seen after my patch it seems. I saw that all other libraries besides libperf also build install_headers target but I only pre-empted libperf since that was what we were seeing, I wonder if we should just build all headers for all perf libs first and then build the libs16:20
RPkhem: it is an intermittent issue and your patch isn't merged but I'm not convinced that will fix it16:21
RPthe location of where the python module is built makes me think any header race like that would long be over at that poin16:22
RPpoint16:22
khemRP: the individual headers targets trigger as part of main library target16:23
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khemthe link above is same problem - in one dump we have /usr/src/debug/perf/1.0/tools/lib/perf/include/perf and its missing in the other16:24
khemin debug info16:24
khemanyway, I was wondering if it was happening after my patch too but thats not the case16:26
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kanavinRP: patch with further tweaks to settings posted16:38
rburtonagodard: documentation tip: in the bit talking about TOOLCHAIN etc, explicitly say that with meta-clang people would set TOOLCHAIN globally but with the stuff that integrated into core, global-scope (distros, local.conf, etc) should set PREFERRED_TOOLCHAIN instead.16:39
roussinmHello, we have multiple GitLab runners building in parallel, all sharing an NFS-mounted sstate-cache. When several builds run at once, we often hit `Bitbake Fetcher Error: ChecksumError('Stale Error Detected', None)`. Running builds individually works fine. Has anyone seen this before or found specific NFS mount options that help?16:42
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rburtonroussinm: nfs is terrible.  be really sure that your locking implementation is actually working.16:46
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roussinmrburton: I'm a noob at NFS, we do use NFSv4, not sure what are the different implementation for locking are?16:46
rburtonnfs4 is a good start, but i've been lucky enough to just tell people to make it work and its their problem ;)16:47
roussinmrburton: haha ok. Alternatives to NFS?16:47
rburtonif the locking is actually working then it _should_ be fine. the AB has a NFS mount and never hits ESTALE...16:48
rburtonmaybe halstead has some tips16:48
roussinmWhat's the network speed between the AB and NFS ? We are on 1Gb connection (upgrades are coming (25Gb))16:49
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rburton20gbit16:49
roussinmrburton: kk, the nfs is stored on a old truenas server (recent version, old hardware) with a zfs dataset...16:50
rburtonyou'd hope truenas could do nfs properly16:51
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rburtonkhem: i think bugzilla 15992 explains the weird gn-native problem that Jon was seeing17:20
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halsteadroussinm: We used TrueNAS with zfs and NFSv4 for many years on the autobuilder.17:55
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roussinmhalstead: do you know if you had any special properties set on the dataset or NFS options?17:56
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halsteadroussinm: We use lz4 compression. No special options. For the mount we use the defaults on the private network.18:01
halsteadroussinm: When we have to cross onto the shared network we add "rsize=8192,wsize=8192" to the mount options.18:02
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