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| rfs613- | odd situation.. in a simple recipe, variables can be successfully obtained using d.getVar("WORKDIR") from python tasks. However in shell task $WORKDIR is coming up empty. Likewise for other variables. What could be missing/wrong? | 00:30 |
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| rfs613 | oh... it needs to be ${WORKDIR}... | 00:41 |
| rfs613 | ... and its even documented https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.12/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-metadata.html#variable-expansion | 00:50 |
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| khem | yeah mega-manual has all the answers | 01:08 |
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| agodard | rburton: hmm, I thought I already mentioned that diff between TOOLCHAIN and PREFERRED_TOOLCHAIN https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/ref-manual/variables.html#term-PREFERRED_TOOLCHAIN_TARGET | 06:27 |
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| landgraf | Ñ | 09:20 |
| paulg | Y | 09:20 |
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| rburton | agodard: i shall read and check that there's nothing missing. found a fun edge case which was breaking our build and want to make sure its documented | 09:30 |
| agodard | rburton: ok, there's also https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/ref-manual/classes.html#toolchain-clang | 09:33 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: not quite deleting... | 09:41 |
| RP | sadly there are some build failures I'd not noticed until now :/ | 09:41 |
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| kanavin | RP: I fixed up the lingering bblayers fail in master, hopefully for real this time | 09:53 |
| RP | kanavin: thanks! I hadn't had a chance to think about that one again | 09:55 |
| RP | kanavin: FWIW my current issues list is a) a-full source mirrors failure [fix now testing] b) perf reproducibility problem c) build-appliance recipe conversion | 09:56 |
| kanavin | RP: I can look into some of that, but only today - on holiday next week. Otherwise I wanted to sit down and write the json schema and tests for built-in bitbake-setup configs against it. | 09:57 |
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| kanavin | having a schema would help documentation writers, for one thing | 09:57 |
| RP | kanavin: I can look at these, go for the schema | 09:59 |
| RP | well, I can try. Not sure how long I'll last | 09:59 |
| kanavin | I'm also slightly disappointed I'm not going to talk in Tokyo plumbers conference about it | 09:59 |
| kanavin | was looking forward to eating some quality sushi in authentic sushi bars :) | 10:00 |
| RP | kanavin: shame :/ | 10:03 |
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| yocton | RP: I don't know if that is related to your mirroring problem but in the meta-oe-mirror, MIRRORS and PREMIRRORS are not what I expected : https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15993#c2 | 10:22 |
| RP | yocton: There seem to be several potential questions there and I'm not sure which ones you're concerned about? | 10:27 |
| RP | yocton: since the autobuilder populates the source mirrors, it has to make some changes so it can both populate and test it | 10:28 |
| yocton | RP: my main question is : test_yocto_source_mirror() set MIRRORS = "" and PREMIRRORS to dl.yp.org but the log of meta-oe-mirror shows PREMIRROR is overwritten and MIRRORS has its default value. | 10:31 |
| yocton | RP: maybe meta-oe-mirror is badly configured | 10:32 |
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| RP | yocton: the config should be what is applied. The test is trying to test our mirror and not anything in MIRRORS so if stuff does make it there, that should be fixed | 10:37 |
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| RP | yocton: in other words you're right, MIRRORS should be cleared | 10:38 |
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| toric | If I want an image (in this case, a dev image with a couple extra tools included) to also include some changes to the device tree, is it better to make a device tree overlay, or a patch file to directly patch the original device tree? | 12:18 |
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| walter | patches cause lengthy rebuilds, so I'm guessing overlays are better. | 12:27 |
| toric | Is there a way to apply overlays on boot? all the guides ive seen have instructed you to load the overlay from the uboot command line. | 12:29 |
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| rburton | agodard: i'd add to the migration guide a note that setting TOOLCHAIN globally should not be done, use PREFERRED_TOOLCHAIN. | 12:57 |
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| agodard | rburton: there is the "Toolchain changes:" section at https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/migration-guides/release-notes-5.3.html#new-features-enhancements-in-yocto-ver. but the tone is more "you should do this" than "you shouldn't do this" | 13:00 |
| agodard | rburton: I can insist on not setting TOOLCHAIN globally, doesn't hurt | 13:02 |
| mischief | huh. did anyone see 'Fetcher failure for URL: 'https://yoctoproject.org/connectivity.html'. URL doesn't work.' today? | 13:04 |
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| mischief | at 2025-10-10T12:36:35.096Z | 13:05 |
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| agodard | mischief: maybe you are getting this https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=60cdf960a3560f391babd559737f1afb31fb2c5c | 13:10 |
| agodard | rburton: I made an extra note on that in the release notes. Thanks :) | 13:11 |
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| mischief | hm. i haven't seen this happen before today | 13:14 |
| mischief | guessing some spurious network problem in our ci | 13:15 |
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| rburton | Anyone building images: I'm curious if you use nscd? glibc has it enabled in the build by default but it has to be installed explicitly. Reply here or ideally at https://discussion.openembedded.org/t/do-you-use-nscd/56. | 14:56 |
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| reatmon_ | I'm seeing nativesdk-mesa errors related to not finding clang-cpp. | 15:01 |
| reatmon_ | errors in do_configure | 15:02 |
| rburton | reatmon_: dmitry iirc sent some clang fixes earlier today | 15:02 |
| reatmon_ | let me look | 15:02 |
| rburton | fallout from my clang/llvm split | 15:02 |
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| reatmon_ | those fix my issue | 15:34 |
| reatmon_ | yay! | 15:34 |
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| rburton | thanks for testing :) | 15:36 |
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| reatmon_ | And now that my builds are working again I can finish splitting the linux-firmware patch testing and send it in. | 15:57 |
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| khem | reatmon_:you reported the pm-qa problem. I wonder why do we need git for patching | 16:42 |
| khem | do you have details | 16:43 |
| rburton | RP: --dry-run doesn't actually touch any stamps, so i can use it as a way to see "did my changes mean if i run bitbake, it will build stuff" right | 16:44 |
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| RP | rburton: correct | 16:45 |
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| rburton | follow-up: can i get bitbake to tell me _why_ it wants to rebuild something | 16:46 |
| rburton | we used to have whatchanged but it was broken, iirc? | 16:46 |
| RP | we've tried a few approaches but it isn't easy to work that out | 16:47 |
| RP | I mean yes, we should work out how to do it but time... | 16:48 |
| rburton | would be so useful but yeah finding the right info | 16:48 |
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| khem | rburton: globally set PREFERRED_TOOLCHAIN_TARGET|SDK|NATIVE per-recipe set TOOLCHAIN and TOOLCHAIN_NATIVE | 18:16 |
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| rburton | yeah, i know. obviously forgot to update meta-arm's CI at some point and the failure path is not expected :) | 20:19 |
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| toric | Is it possible to apply a device tree overlay at build time? All the docs ive found so far only describe how to manually load a device tree from the uboot command line. | 21:30 |
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