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jmdHow do I indicate that a package conflicts with another package?09:58
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kanavinRCONFLICTS?10:00
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walterThe "What I wish I’d known about Yocto Project" has this "improve build speeds with shared downloads and shared state cache"... simply setting a bash environment variable for DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR doesn't seem to help, and I can't seem to find anything in the docs related to this. Is there some way to make this a global permanent config?12:19
walterOr do I need to make sure this is set in local.conf for each project?12:19
paulbarkerwalter: I recommend using a site.conf file which is shared between build trees (either copying or symlinking it works)12:20
paulbarkerAs that allows you to tune other things like BB_NUMBER_THREADS if needed for your build machine12:20
walterthanks.12:22
qschulzwalter: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.12/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-ref-variables.html#term-BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH_ADDITIONS probably12:30
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walteroh, it's in that manual... I keep postponing reading it. I read most of the docs when I started, but not that part... Well, I know what I'll do over the weekend now.12:31
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jmdI'm getting a warning that a package "contains reference to TMPDIR [buildpaths]"14:41
jmdI'm sure that it doesn't.14:41
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Habbie"now convince the computer"14:42
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qschulzAh Sphinx, always good times when debugging things in the docs :)15:19
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halsteadLetoThe2nd: Did the changes to https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/get-involved/#virtual-meetings work out or do they still need to be done?16:15
LetoThe2ndhalstead: not at all, and I actually poked Helpdesk.16:15
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walterWhy does DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULT include things linke nfs, 3g or nfc? Even x11 and zeroconf seem "extra", I feel like the project should go for building more leaner distros by default.16:27
qschulzthere's a fine balance to find between "default is as small as possible" and "default works without requiring too many changes on most setups"16:32
qschulzyou can always override it if you want a smaller distro16:33
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qschulz(I don't have the historical background of the choices though, but git may have it?)16:33
walterI know, but I was surprised to see all those things in there.16:33
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walterSome make sense, others not so much. I would remove 3g from there. The commit adding it, doesn't explain why it has been added: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=ff014d9634638457622f6019b163e75bafcefada16:42
walterBut yeah, I don't think it's worth introducing a breaking change for some, just to remove it.16:43
jmdIs there any namespace provision for recipes?  Or at least a convention to follow?16:45
qschulzjmd: not sure to understand the question16:45
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jmdWell, if I have a layer which defines a recipe foo_0.0.bb how can I be confident that some other layer (written by some 3rd party) hasn't also a recipe with the same name?16:47
walterwhat happens if you do? have you tried to?16:48
qschulzdepends on the layer order inclusion, their priority and recipe version priority... a bit nasty16:49
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qschulzjmd: the whole thing is built around being able to do what you want not to happen16:49
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qschulzif you control which version of the layers you pull in and yours, checking once manually should be enough?16:50
qschulzI assume it may be possible to know the location of the recipe when used by bitbake, but I don't know how or in which file this info is stored16:51
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qschulzjmd: what is the actual scenario you're trying to prevent?16:51
ErmineIs Whinlatter going to be released soon?16:52
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zeddiihttps://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Weekly_Status16:57
paulbarkerErmine: The current plan is to release in late November16:58
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Erminezeddii: will know, thank you16:58
Erminepaulbarker: great, thank you. Just enough time to send out patches16:59
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qschulzErmine: very little chance anything but release blockers can make it for the first whinlatter release17:00
qschulz(fixes for release blockers* :) )17:00
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Ermineoh.17:00
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qschulzErmine: but patches can still be sent. If accepted, merged into master and then if it matches the requirements for backporting to earlier releases (including whinlatter) then backporting can be requested17:01
qschulzs/matches/fulfills/17:01
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Erminethat's nice to know too17:04
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qschulzso in short, just send the patch and maintainer(s) will figure out what's the appropriate thing to do with it :) (if it's for next release, you'll need to request the backport afterwards, so keep track of your patches :) )17:13
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khemjmd: bitbake-layers show-overlayed might give you a list of duplicated recipe names18:45
khemthen you can operate upon the list to find item of interest - bitbake-layers show-recipes <pn> will show providers in priority order18:46
khemyou will see if the one you wish is not on top then adjust accordingly18:46
jmdkhem: That will be usefull when the problem arises.  However I'd rather just avoid the problem in the first place.18:47
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khemyou can check layers.openembedded.org and try to see if the name you are trying to use exists for some predefined recipe or not18:48
khembitbake -e <pn> | grep '^FILE=' also will help point the recipe being picked for <pn>18:49
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jmdI want to override the assignment DEFAULT_TIMEZONE ?= "Universal" in tzdata.bb20:25
jmdWhat's the correct way to do it?20:25
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