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pvogelaarHi, we are using scarthgap but for playing around with new qemu features (RPMB) we also added some newer version of recipes. Now per default all the higher versions are used but I want to have LTS recipe versions as default and explicitly use the newer version only for my qemu.  Is there a way to achieve this? I know I could set the preferred07:46
pvogelaarversion for all other MACHINEs or in the distro but then I run into problems/maintenance if there is more then a dot release. So what I am looking for is kind of how to ignore a specific recipe version per default.07:46
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pvogelaarI found DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1". that should do the job08:07
mckoanpvogelaar: see PREFERRED_PACKAGE_virtual/kernel and PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto (or similar)08:10
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RPJPEW: that would be an odd one to have since it is written into the sstate filenames08:34
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paulbarkerMorning09:16
mckoanpaulbarker: good morning09:19
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rburtonpvogelaar: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE is the right thing, yes10:03
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JPEWRP: ya I figured out that it's just the sdk-provides-dummy recipes that have a problem since they also weird things with their arch14:43
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JPEWIdk how to fix it though14:43
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RPJPEW: I don't really know much about the problem you're seeing14:48
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landgrafRP: Isn't it my "favorite" bug with sdk-provides-dummy causing conflicts of literaly any packages and attempts to fix it causing SPDX failures here and there?  :-/14:51
RPlandgraf: it is probably related but I think I've paged that info out to long term storage atm :/14:51
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* landgraf still has PTSD after trying to fix that :D 14:52
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RPlandgraf: I think I've learnt to just forget some things15:17
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JPEWRP: The issue is that SPDX writes out files based on SSTATE_PKGARCH, but in sdk-provides-dummy there is nothing in the task hash that makes it rebuild when that changes (due to the games it plays with PACKAGE_ARCH), so if you build for one SDKMACHINE, then another, it doesn't rerun the tasks to make sure that files are written out with the new SSTATE_PKGARCH15:26
JPEWAnd then SPDX complains it can't fine the SPDX files15:27
JPEWI think the easier solution is to make sdk-provides-dummy `inherit nospdx`; there's really no value in having it15:29
JPEWMaybe no value?15:29
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RPrburton, moto-timo, tgamblin: I tried building core-image-ptest-python3-cffi, then runqemu it and cd /usr/lib/python3-cffi/ptest; ./run-ptest. What is interesting is that gives output but if I run "./run-ptest | cat", I don't get output15:34
RPSomething about terminal handling and buffering?15:34
rburtonthat's odd15:34
RP"don't get output" meaning I don't see it right away15:34
moto-timoyeah, it delays until after tun run-ptest run is done?15:35
moto-timoweird15:35
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RPThis is why we're seeing the timeout being important15:36
RPIs there a way to force the mode pytest runs in?15:36
JPEWRP: export PYTHONUNBUFFERED=115:37
RPthat does indeed work15:38
RPshould we be putting this in all our pytest calls?15:38
JPEWIt's a python thing, not just pytest15:38
JPEWBut, at least all pytest calls15:39
RPok, should we be putting this in all our python ptest calls? :)15:39
JPEWRP: Yes, but we might want to just set it all the time?15:39
JPEWidk15:39
RPin ptest-runner?15:39
JPEWYa maybe15:39
RPI'd be ok with that. Any other views?15:40
tgamblinRP: I also think exporting it in ptest-runner would be good15:41
RPI will see if I can do tht15:47
moto-timoyeah, it sounds like a good idea.15:47
moto-timothanks for the idea JPEW15:48
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JPEWWe had the same problem on our Labgrid CI testing, which is why I could recall it so quickly :)15:48
moto-timoBattle won lessons are the best ;)15:49
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RPJPEW: I was feeling I must be really slow on this kind of thing :)15:49
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rburtonnice one moto-timo16:00
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RPmoto-timo: I fear this may obsolete your fix, but worth doing to ensure we never see this issue again!16:06
RPI've sent a patch to ptest-runner, hopefully Anibal agrees and we can the update16:06
RPJPEW: thanks!16:06
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moto-timoRP: all I really care about is "fixing it"16:09
moto-timoI'm not a trophy huhter16:09
moto-timohunter16:09
RPmoto-timo: I know, but I do feel a little bad for jumping in here!16:10
moto-timoI'm running a test now with PYTHONUNBUFFERED=1 in ptest-python-pytest.bbclass, with ptest-runner master + Yoan's patches (but not RP's)16:10
RPmoto-timo: I just poked at it as I felt we were close to learning something important16:11
moto-timoRP: no problem my friend. I am happy to be on the journey to success together16:11
moto-timoI had a very sinking feeling yesterday... that we/I were missing the real issue ;)16:11
RPmoto-timo: being able to customise the timeout is useful in itself16:12
moto-timothis bug #16163 will be burned into my memory for a long time16:12
moto-timoso many odd turns16:12
RPI even wrote C code. I'm surprised I remember how16:14
RPit compiled first time16:14
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moto-timo🤣16:15
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rburtonRP: show off16:25
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ukleinektgamblin: real open source program in C: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c8da4b6517:09
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clepsydraeI've recently update to whinlatter and ran into the QA check about patch upstream status. To get my build to work, I had to update python3-markupsafe to a newer version, then had to set the upstream status of the patch. Just wondering, what are the actual expectations for individual devs regarding this? I just wanted my build to work, I definitely22:23
clepsydraedon't feel qualified to submit an upstream patch to bump the package version, but the closes option for the status field is "inappropriate"22:23
clepsydraeIt seems like a really forceful check. I get wanting people to contribute fixes back to upstream, but to actually fail the build if they don't explicitly commit to (not) do so seems like a bit much22:28
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