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| yannd | To get back to my experiment from yesterday, isn't DEPENDing on a recipe to prepare_recipe_sysroot supposed to follow RDEPENDS? I don't recall having to specify child dependencies in a recipe (but then it can be that I just never hit that case, or simply do not recall) | 07:29 |
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| yannd | I see PACKAGE_DEPENDS used in package.bbclass, and mentioned in the docs as existing, but it does not get documented anywhere and git-log does not help much, what's its intended use? | 07:45 |
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| landgraf | "node-red was skipped: The npm fetcher has been disabled due to security issues and there is no maintainer to address them" the day has finally come :-( | 07:59 |
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| paulbarker | Morning | 08:20 |
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| yannd | If I attempt to use do_prepare_recipe_sysroot[recrdeptask]="do_populate_sysroot" in that z recipe from yesterday, I end up with a loop, z.do_prepare_recipe_sysroot depending on z.do_populate_sysroot (can't understand why, as no recipe (r)depends on z), and b.do_populate_sysroot still does not appear, I must be understanding something wrong here? | 08:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | landgraf: YAY | 08:44 |
| yannd | there are quite a few occurences of "idepends" in the bb source code (even appearing in the changelog), what does it stand for? | 08:46 |
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| yannd | inter-task? | 08:49 |
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| yannd | or has it anything to do with "recideptask", about which there is also very little in the doc? | 08:51 |
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| landgraf | wayland, vulkan, debuginfod are in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS? o_O doesn't look like embedded :D | 09:40 |
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| yannd | Playing with recrdeptask on cpng-bitbake-proto, I see it recursively following DEPENDS, but not RDEPENDS. If I add some RDEPENDS to DEPENDS in a given dependency, they do get followed (they now get into pn-buildlist and task-depends.dot). The doc says "it recursively works through the dependencies of those tasks" without restricting it to build-time, so I assume it should work. What would I have missed here? | 09:45 |
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| RP | yannd: it depends on which task you add the recrdeptask on | 10:16 |
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| opensurf | good morning | 10:18 |
| opensurf | I am trying to rebuild a yocto based product using kirkstone branch and poky architecture, but it is not more possible due to the fact the git protocol has been discontinued. | 10:20 |
| opensurf | I would like to remove the "git ls-remote" test, as I have already all the source code downloaded locally. | 10:20 |
| opensurf | It is possible, or there is another workaround? | 10:20 |
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| yannd | I created a do_deploy_runtimedeps declaring recrdeptask towards do_deploy. It does include the deploy tasks of the (level 0) recipe's own (level 1) DEPENDS (there is only one, the python3.12 mentioned earlier), and their (level 2) RDEPENDS, but will follow only level2's DEPENDS not RDEPENDS | 10:21 |
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| opensurf | Hi yannd , you are answering to me ? | 10:22 |
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| paulbarker | JaMa: Could you send a consolidated series of patches needed for Ubuntu 26.04 support on whinlatter? | 10:24 |
| yannd | opensurf: no that was to RP :) | 10:25 |
| opensurf | ok | 10:25 |
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| RP | yannd: This area is complex and has had a lot of bugs, the current behaviour is probably right as it took a lot of work to get to this point but sometimes working out how to use it and what the right config look like is hard. | 10:35 |
| RP | I'm not remembering the details offhand unfortunately :/ | 10:35 |
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| RP | yocton: I have one bug left in the test cases, still trying to work it out... | 10:37 |
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| RP | yocton: I've merged patches to master after some tweaks. I'll test these and if there are still any issues, update further | 10:44 |
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| aduskett | sweeeet. I figured out how to get plymouth working lol | 10:47 |
| aduskett | Now when I run mender updates, I start plymouth and have an nice progress bar | 10:48 |
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| aduskett | oh, and auto-encrypting the partitions in the initramfs on first bootup and auto-enrolling those partitions with systemd-cryptenroll into the TPM | 10:48 |
| aduskett | mmmmmmm. CRA compliance | 10:48 |
| aduskett | Feels good | 10:48 |
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| mcfrisk | aduskett: yea, systemd in initramfs can do that nicely | 10:57 |
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| aduskett | mcfrisk, indeed. It's the "run this script that auto-encrypts the partitions using cryptsetup" part that was a pain to setup :) | 10:58 |
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| aduskett | The setup is: Create a wic image -> flash the wic using bmap -> reboot -> auto-enroll keys for secureboot -> reboot automatically -> enable secure boot -> reboot -> auto encrypt the partitions using a randomly generated password -> reboot -> auto-relabel selinux -> reboot -> setup is done | 11:01 |
| aduskett | I just realized how much work that was after typing it all out... | 11:01 |
| landgraf | in current master python3-markupsafe-native-3.0.3-r0 fails with '| error: invalid command 'egg_info' (fedora 41 host). is itknown issue? | 11:11 |
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| paulbarker | landgraf: We have seen similar issues: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16235 | 11:14 |
| paulbarker | I don't think it has been properly investigated yet. If you learn anything we'd really appreciate an update on the bug tracker! | 11:14 |
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| mcfrisk | aduskett: I used UEFI secure boot, dm-verity to boot to secure rootfs, tied to uki in kernel command line, and then created TPM backed read-write partition on first boot inside initramfs. granted did not setup A/B updates.. | 11:19 |
| landgraf | paulbarker: thanks. it happens after oe-core rebase to me as well. | 11:19 |
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| yannd | RP: after adding more logs to runqueue.prepare I'm under the impression that the addition of dependencies to my level-0 recipe's runtaskentries during part B of recrdeptask handling is done first, before the recursive dependencies get added - somehow as if we were walking the dependency DAG breadth-first instead of depth-first (but admitedly my understanding of that code is still superficial) | 12:31 |
| yannd | there seems indeed to be no DAG walking but relying on the hashing order of dict keys :/ | 12:31 |
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| yannd | and indeed with RDEPENDS in the mix the graph is not even acyclic, so that's just a metaphor of some sort :) | 12:33 |
| yannd | that aspect should really be handled by the extradeps counting | 12:34 |
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| yannd | it rather appears that the only task with cumulativedeps containing more than just themselves is the root task of my build request | 12:41 |
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| RP | yannd: whilst I did write that code and I have attempted to fix it on several occasions, I'm afraid I simply don't remember offhand :( | 12:44 |
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| yannd | RP: I think I got it: the computation of cumulativedeps cannot work properly in presence of (RDEPENDS-induced) cycles. It actually attempts to do the depth-first walking, but only consider as a leaf tasks with no deps, whereas in my case I have "clusters" of tasks where none is a real leaf (though the whole cycle could possibly to some extent be seen as one), so only a small quantity of the tasks get considered | 13:02 |
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| RP | yannd: that sounds like it could be right. Have you dependency loops? Those definitely aren't supported | 13:04 |
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| yannd | RP: no real ones, but mapping RDEPENDS to the recipe level like is done here acts as if there were loops | 13:12 |
| yannd | akin to my simple example from yesterday | 13:12 |
| yannd | that one: I made a quick test inside oe-core to compare with my custom stuff, and got puzzled by one thing. I created recipes a and b producing packages that RDEPENDS each other (not creating a cycle at package level, but making the recipes interdependent). Then recipe z that DEPENDS on a. There z.do_prepare_recipe_sysroot depends on a.do_populate_sysroot. But no task of "b" enters the dependency graph, and that puzzles me. | 13:13 |
| yannd | ok that's not clear enough | 13:13 |
| yannd | see https://paste.vates.tech/?c6fedbec7880076b#35tuaaKjmqQYcN213Z5uKVgueThFXzcm7AXs7dys9kQM | 13:14 |
| yannd | trying a fix (but it might be expensive) | 13:15 |
| RP | yannd: you haven't specified any dependency handling that would look at RDEPENDS | 13:16 |
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| RP | yannd: in OE there are things like do_populate_sysroot[rdeptask] = "do_populate_sysroot" | 13:17 |
| RP | or d.setVarFlag('do_package_write_rpm', 'rdeptask', "do_packagedata") | 13:17 |
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| RP | i.e. runtime dependencies don't do anything at build time by default | 13:17 |
| yannd | there is this do_prepare_recipe_sysroot[recrdeptask]="do_populate_sysroot" I tried, but which causes an unfortunate real loop, because z.do_populate_sysroot becomes a dep of z.do_prepare_recipe_sysroot (which sure I did not meat to request with that line) | 13:20 |
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| RP | yannd: you have to be careful about loops with runtime dependencies. OE supports that but it is only through careful planning of the tasks | 13:23 |
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| RP | it is why OE generally uses rdeptask and recrdeptask is only used on end of tree tasks like image generation | 13:24 |
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| yannd | RP: here I'm attempting to create recipes that describe third-party RPMs, so I have to map existing dependencies, and really have no grasp on them | 13:25 |
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| RP | I guess the question is what you're trying to achieve with the recrdeptask dependency? | 13:26 |
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| RP | yannd: in OE, native.bbclass does do_populate_sysroot[rdeptask] = "do_populate_sysroot" which I think might be what you're looking for? | 13:29 |
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| yannd | RP: the goal is collect the packages necessary for a build root, so yes could be useful | 13:33 |
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| RP | yannd: recrdeptask is probably right for that, you might want to call the task something different to do_prepare_recipe_sysroot since that task is becoming overloaded the way you've set it up | 13:37 |
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| RP | """The following ipk packages are different and not in exclusion list: | 13:40 |
| RP | /srv/pokybuild/yocto-worker/bringup-fast/build/build-st/reproducibleB-extended/tmp/deploy/ipk/./x86-64-v3/libgcc-s-src_15.2.0-r0_x86-64-v3.ipk""" | 13:40 |
| RP | ipk and rpm but not deb. I feel there may be a bug in the task hashes :/ | 13:40 |
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| RP | JPEW: ^^^ - I think your change didn't ripple through the task hashes correctly :( | 13:41 |
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| yannd | RP: in the simple example in pastebin I'm actually trying to use the standard do_prepare_recipe_sysroot (trying to make it so "b" gets actually considered), so likely that one was a broken idea | 13:48 |
| RP | I think you will do better with a different task name | 13:49 |
| yannd | in the dnf-bridge proto I'm actually not using any OE recipe, though I had to steal some classes | 13:49 |
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| RP | yannd: right, I was just referencing OE since we had to have solve this there somehow | 13:50 |
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| yannd | RP: using a new task actually does not buy me a loop when adding the recrdeptask (but it won't follow the RDEPENDS and pull "b" either, even if I break the loop by avoiding b RDEPENDing on a) | 13:52 |
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| RP | yannd: hmm, I'm clearly missing something too then :/ | 13:54 |
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| yannd | RP: I found that both recomforting and not reassuring :D | 14:05 |
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| RP | yannd: I afraid I'm trying to do too many things at once, probably badly | 14:10 |
| yannd | RP: np, digging on my side | 14:14 |
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| landgraf | like ones from meta-aws/meta-virt | 14:46 |
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| JaMa | paulbarker: yes, will send whinlatter series in few minutes | 15:27 |
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| paulbarker | JaMa: Thanks! | 15:30 |
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| yannd | RP: I think I'm not far from a non-optimized recrdeptask walking, I can see those tasks that were previously missing, when I dump runtaskentries, when using do_deploy_runtimedeps[recrdeptask]="do_deploy_runtimedeps". However bitbake still only schedules the DEPENDS for some reason | 16:54 |
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| yannd | actually it does not appear to change anything: setting the recrdeptask to sdo_deploy_runtimedeps till gets all RDEPENDS ignored, and setting it to do_deploy gets only one level of RDEPENDS followed | 16:56 |
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| yannd | and the whole thing is awfully costly | 16:57 |
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