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| aduskett | Agreeing with Poettering was not on my bingo card list today | 09:24 |
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| aduskett | Has anyone seen this error out of bitbake before? bb.asyncrpc.exceptions.InvokeError: Anonymous user is not allowed to access permissions(s) @read, @report | 09:38 |
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| rburton | that's hashserve related i believe | 09:43 |
| paulbarker | aduskett: I also just unexpectedly agreed with systemd.... but not completely so I'm not 100% shocked | 09:44 |
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| aduskett | paulbarker, might want to buy a lottery ticket | 09:44 |
| aduskett | rburton, got it | 09:45 |
| aduskett | thanks! | 09:45 |
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| aduskett | I have to be the only person on earth that actually tries to use git logs | 13:46 |
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| aduskett | I really should stop doing that. Nobody ever writes anything useful in startup culture (which is where my clients usually come from) | 13:46 |
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| aduskett | Entire commit message: "Add Telemetry groups" +280 -73 10 files touched | 13:47 |
| rburton | aduskett: would you believe that https://github.com/psf/requests/commit/66d21cb07bd6255b1280291c4fafb71803cdb3b7 fixes a CVE? | 13:48 |
| rburton | i'm so close to starting a blog titled Maintainers That Make Me Mad | 13:49 |
| rburton | but I'd probably get sacked for not doing any dayjob as that would take all my time | 13:49 |
| RP | aduskett: we have tried to get better at commit logs! | 13:49 |
| aduskett | RP, oh, I am complaining about a customer lmao. Yocto... I expect it tbh | 13:50 |
| aduskett | rburton, lmao | 13:50 |
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| RP | aduskett: rburton and I often get to read our commits from 15-20 years ago and it is clear we've learnt a few things and try to do better! | 13:51 |
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| aduskett | RP, A developers worst enemy is themselves 6 months ago :D | 13:51 |
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| aduskett | I like this one from my client: "Implement MQTT" +4694 -164 | 13:52 |
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| aduskett | Very nice, perfect commit message. No notes | 13:52 |
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| RP | aduskett: yourself from 15 years ago is a different kind of challenge | 13:53 |
| aduskett | RP, oh man, no joke | 13:53 |
| rburton | RP: this morning i was chasing a query from a colleague and found it appeared in a commit by sameo from 2008 | 13:53 |
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| RP | rburton: at least it wasn't you/I! | 13:53 |
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| yocton | Sometimes, good commit messages are written somewhere but are passed through some process shredder and lost. That makes me sad :-( | 13:56 |
| aduskett | I do not like that 2008 is 18 years ago | 13:57 |
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| RP | yocton: hopefully we don't do that! | 13:57 |
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| yocton | RP: not on my watch! :) | 13:58 |
| KanjiMonster | aduskett: don't forget the classic 'revert "update foo"' (end of commit message) (not necessarily here, but in general) | 13:58 |
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| aduskett | KanjiMonster, a classic | 13:58 |
| RP | "fix regression" | 13:58 |
| aduskett | "Whoops" | 13:58 |
| aduskett | "fix regression for real this time" | 13:59 |
| rburton | aduskett: at my first job at a startup the **CTO** would commit with empty messages, so we changed the server to reject blank messages. he used "." as a commit message in protest. | 13:59 |
| aduskett | rburton, lmao. How dare you want him to document his thought process! | 13:59 |
| rburton | he also wrote "clever" perl which I then had to touch a month later and rewrote in python | 13:59 |
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| rburton | great days | 14:00 |
| rburton | i guess it was very educational :) | 14:00 |
| aduskett | rburton, I learned early on to never be clever. Clever code is unreadable 99% of the time | 14:00 |
| aduskett | Let alone maintainable | 14:00 |
| aduskett | Let the compiler be clever for you | 14:00 |
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| aduskett | God, I need to start charging extra for dealing with AI slop code | 14:05 |
| aduskett | s/AI/LLM/g | 14:05 |
| haonc | hi all , i cannot access https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky to clone source code, please guide me how can i get access? | 14:06 |
| haonc | git clone https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky | 14:06 |
| haonc | Cloning into 'poky'... | 14:06 |
| haonc | fatal: unable to access 'https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/': Failed to connect to git.yoctoproject.org port 443 after 216 ms: Connection refused | 14:06 |
| aduskett | haonc, poky is dead | 14:06 |
| aduskett | :D | 14:06 |
| aduskett | Hooray! | 14:06 |
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| rburton | haonc: works for me. email helpdesk@yoctoproject.org with the IP that git.yoctoproject.org resolves to (it's on a load balancer) | 14:07 |
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| haonc | rburton thanks, let me check | 14:13 |
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| khem | RP: I think it will be ok, some of clang built packages in other layers still need to turn this off but that should be right place | 16:36 |
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| rburton | Saur: I REPRODUCED THE PYTHON EGGINFO THING ON DEMAND | 16:44 |
| Saur | rburton: \o/ | 16:44 |
| rburton | it _is_ another path where directory order is important, had to mkdir about 20 directories to get an entry that appeared in walk() in the "right" place | 16:45 |
| rburton | at least now I can slap print() calls in and find out where it is failing | 16:45 |
| Saur | Nice | 16:45 |
| rburton | importlib should be sorting empty directories to the end so it will find the real one first, obviously that isn't happening somewhere in setuptools | 16:46 |
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| RP | rburton: nice! | 17:26 |
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| Saur | RP, rburton: I could use your advice for a problem I'm having, which potentially will affect OE-Core in the future. There is quite a bit of backstory, so bear with me. | 19:09 |
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| Saur | On Friday my builds started failing for recipes that use `GROUPMEMS_PARAM`. The groupmems command failed in a really weird way. Initially I thought it was due to some recent change in OE-Core, but after having bisected the last weeks changes, I found nothing. Then I realized that I had the failure also in my builds with Whinlatter, and a lot of bisecting later I had figured out that it was due to us having updated util-linux(!) to | 19:11 |
| Saur | version 2.42. So I modified the util-linux recipe so that it fetched from Git, and then I bisected it too. Finally I came to commit 6651ae5822610789d9ca620c4e0e65c3bd4e12af "use ul_default_shell() for interactive shell spawning", which changed how some util-linux commands spawns a shell. A lot of debugging later I had finally figured out what happens (sort of). The problem was due to that flock, which was one of the modified commands, is | 19:11 |
| Saur | being used to call groupmems. One of the changes in commit 6651ae58 is that now if `$SHELL` is not set, they also check what shell the user has configured in /etc/passwd and use that, before falling back to /bin/sh. So in my case what happened was that flock now starts /bin/zsh (my configured shell) instead of /bin/sh, and due to how my .zshenv is setup, this lead to `PATH` no longer containing the paths added by bitbake when groupmems | 19:11 |
| Saur | is executed... | 19:11 |
| Saur | Now I wondered why `SHELL` is not set, and I found commit 43a2baf26dad4b7b2f0e4c6af3ea4a611cee7ad5 in openembedded-core, which unexports `SHELL` in bitbake.conf. Interesting to note is that the commit was added with a direct reference to flock using the user's shell if `SHELL` is left as is, i.e., exactly the thing that happens now again, but when `SHELL` is unset... :( | 19:11 |
| Saur | So, now to the question: how to solve this? The possible solutions I see are: 1) disable the use of `getpwuid()` in `ul_default_shell()` for util-linux-native, which of course means we will have to maintain that patch for the future, 2) get upstream to revert the corresponding part, which I doubt they want to do, 3) ch | 19:12 |
| Saur | 3) change bitbake.conf to set `SHELL = "/bin/sh"` rather than unexporting it, 4) something else. | 19:13 |
| Saur | To me, 3) seems the easiest, but there is of course potential for unexpected side effects with that... | 19:13 |
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| RP | Saur: the trouble is /bin/sh is also unpredictable as to which shell you get. We may want to assume bash | 19:17 |
| RP | Saur: I am worried about the side effects of putting that into the environment but we may have to... | 19:18 |
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| Saur | Yeah, I understand your concerns. At the same time, /bin/sh is reasonably understood what it dies (whether it is linked to bash, dash, or even zsh). But what happens when, e.g., /bin/zsh is used to start scripts directly is a whole different story. | 19:21 |
| Saur | does* | 19:22 |
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| RP | Saur: agreed | 19:23 |
| Saur | For now, I will solve it on our side with a patch for util-linux. But I expect to have to come back to this later when it's time for OE-Core to update util-linux to 2.42 or newer. Unless of course you want me to send a patch for bitbake.conf (for after Wrynose has been released). | 19:24 |
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| RP | Saur: might be worth sending the patch so we can think about it | 19:52 |
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| Saur | RP: Well, OE still uses util-linux 2.41.3... | 19:53 |
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| Saur | I can of course send a patch to upgrade the recipe to 2.42 as well... | 19:53 |
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| RP | Saur: hosts may start using 2.42 though | 19:57 |
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| Saur | Well, that may get interesting. In my case, flock from util-linux-native is used, but I believe that is due to util-linux-native being a dependency of systemctl-native. So if systemd support is not enabled, then maybe flock from the system is used instead (it is in HOSTTOOLS after all)... | 20:01 |
| Saur | Now, I should say that for most people, this is probably not a problem. My .zshenv file does some things it probably should not do, which is why the PATH ends up in a state without the paths added by bitbake. But I never expected for zsh to be used when spawning scripts... | 20:03 |
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| Saur | RP: I have filed an issue with util-linux now: https://github.com/util-linux/util-linux/issues/4242, so we'll see if they have anything to say about this. | 20:24 |
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