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| walter | Hello, what's the qemu-usermod feature for? Could it be used to conditionally add qemu in `nativesdk-packagegroup-sdk-host.bb`? For now I'm doing a bbapend to exclude qemu from the SDK, but I'm thinking that we should probably have a qemu entry for MACHINE_FEATURES or COMBINED_FEATURES. What do you think? | 08:38 |
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| walter | I think that we shouldn't force a qemu build for people when they most probably won't need it. | 08:38 |
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| walter | And by most probably, I mean, if you build for a specific board, you probably can't run that code in qemu. And by default, you have to dig trough stuff in order to avoid building qemu. | 08:40 |
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| walter | I have first noticed qemu being built about 8 month ago, and only recently I fully understood how/why it was added to the build and how to exclude it. You need quite a bit of knowledge to avoid it. My previous attemts at removing qemu were unsuccessful. | 08:46 |
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| walter | Oh, I just found this in the documentation, I wonder why I didn't see it in the source code. Anyway. I think that I can send a patch to use it: qemu-usermode: QEMU can support user-mode emulation for this machine | 08:57 |
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| RP | walter: the qemu usermode feature says whether that target archietcture supports usermode qemu emulation (as opposed to system mode) | 09:08 |
| RP | walter: the nativesdk code needs to be independent of machine | 09:09 |
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| walter | Oh... I see. The thing is that nativesdk (`bitbake image -c populate_sdk`) always includes qemu by default, and I believe that it should not do that. Or at least, it should be controlled by a MACHINE_FEATURES entry like `qemu`. | 09:35 |
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| RP | walter: you would have to take it out the package groups and make it happen right at the SDK creation time | 09:39 |
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| RP | walter: also note that "qemu user mode" and "qemu system mode" support are two different things | 09:40 |
| RP | we care about the usermode support during the build but not elsewhere. system mode support is generally used for testing, either testimage or SDK time | 09:40 |
| RP | walter: if you turn off sdk/gtk in qemu, it will build a lot faster with the mesa dependency dropped iirc | 09:41 |
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| walter | thanks | 10:18 |
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| RP | due to the patches I'm trying to fix in master-next :( | 10:24 |
| JaMa | my blacksail did as well (even after updating just master, not master-next) :) | 10:25 |
| RP | JaMa: all I did is changed PACKAGE_CLASSES and it started to refetch everything :( | 10:25 |
| JaMa | ah :/ | 10:26 |
| RP | JaMa: I merged a lot of upgrades yesterday so I'm not surprised master could do that | 10:26 |
| RP | and now out of disk space | 10:26 |
| RP | it is one of those days | 10:26 |
| JaMa | yeah, I'm not surprised too much as well, I take it as opportunity to delete whole sstate and TMPDIR for blacksail and start from scratch | 10:27 |
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| RP | JaMa: there were all the shell=True changes as well which probably invalidate pretty much everything | 10:27 |
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| Saur | RP: What's going on in the bitbake repository. According to our systems, the 2.6.1 to 2.6.4 tags were removed last Thursday, and there is now a very incorrect 2.6.1 tag instead... Actually, when looking closer, it seems a lot of old X.Y.Z tags from 2.10 and earlier have been either removed or replaced with odd tags. | 13:12 |
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| paulbarker | Saur: We have an infrastructure sync later, after the tech call, I can find out what's happened and get back to you | 13:31 |
| Saur | paulbarker: Thank you. :) | 13:31 |
| RP | Saur: the intent was that 2.6.1 should match when the bitbake version was changed to 2.6.1 | 13:32 |
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| RP | Saur: it looks like 2.6.1 does actually point at https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/commit/?id=651a6dcf6f8ff33a4e9290a37c23e4f243974ac3 which is the 2.6.1 version change? | 13:35 |
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| Saur | RP: Before, 2.6.1matched yocto-4.3.1, 2.6.2 matched yocto-4.3.2, etc. But I guess that was not intended then? | 13:45 |
| RP | Saur: no, it was totally wrong | 13:46 |
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| RP | I think the tags got deleted quite a while ago, not just last Thursday. We finally got around to sorting the right ones. It is very unfortunate there are a couple of overlaps :( | 13:47 |
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| Saur | RP: Ok, we ignore removed tags when updating our mirrors (much like bitbake does by not using --prune) so we have all the old tags. But a moved tag will raise an error and someone will have to manually handle it. | 13:57 |
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| Saur | RP: As long as you do not start moving any of the `yocto-*` tags around, we're ok... | 14:00 |
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| RP | Saur: those ones are right and we have no intention of changing them | 14:09 |
| Saur | RP: That is what I also assumed. :) | 14:10 |
| RP | Saur: the intent was just to fix things so they were actually consistent/correct as without poky, this highlighted a number of problems | 14:10 |
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| Saur | I guess this will be easier to handle going forward now that the poky repo is no more. | 14:12 |
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| JesseVG | Hi all, I was hoping to get some feedback on a piece of code to extend the SDK, to make it possible to compile OOT kernel modules with only the SDK and no special tricks | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | For that I made this small bb file | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | SUMMARY = "SDK setup for Linux kernel module development" | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | SRC_URI = "\ | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | file://linux-environment.sh \ | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | file://linux-setup.sh \ | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | " | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | S = "${UNPACKDIR}" | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | inherit_defer nativesdk | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | do_install() { | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | install -d ${D}${SDKPATHNATIVE}/environment-setup.d | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | install -m 0755 ${UNPACKDIR}/linux-environment.sh ${D}${SDKPATHNATIVE}/environment-setup.d | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | install -d ${D}${SDKPATHNATIVE}/post-relocate-setup.d | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | install -m 0755 ${UNPACKDIR}/linux-setup.sh ${D}${SDKPATHNATIVE}/post-relocate-setup.d | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | } | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | FILES:${PN} += "${SDKPATHNATIVE}" | 14:25 |
| JesseVG | FILES:${PN}-dev += "" | 14:25 |
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| JesseVG | Which is respectively, for the environment.sh | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | #!/usr/bin/env sh | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | export KERNEL_SRC="${OECORE_TARGET_SYSROOT}/usr/src/kernel" | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | And linux-setup.sh | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | #!/usr/bin/env sh | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | set -e | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | echo "Setting up Linux for development..." | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | # Prepare the kernel sources | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | echo "y" | make -C "${OECORE_TARGET_SYSROOT}"/usr/src/kernel scripts | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | make -C "${OECORE_TARGET_SYSROOT}"/usr/src/kernel prepare | 14:26 |
| JesseVG | Now I know as-is this isn't really upstreamable I think, the make scripts and just echoing y feels wrong, so I was hoping someone has an idea for how to do this "better" to get it in a state that I could potentially add this upstream, I think it would be a nice addition to make kernel module development a fair bit more straightforward with the SDK | 14:27 |
| rburton | feels like that should be part of kernel-devsrc | 14:29 |
| zeddii | you can't package that sort of thing | 14:29 |
| rburton | the package could ship environment fragments to set KERNEL_SRC and do the make on install | 14:30 |
| zeddii | mixed architectures, etc, there's a 13 or so year old bgzilla | 14:30 |
| JesseVG | Well I did it this way just to get it into the environment-setup/post-relocate somehow | 14:30 |
| zeddii | personally I do NOT want anything building during my install. | 14:30 |
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| JesseVG | When you say you can't package that sort of thing, what do you mean? That it's something that's not going to work in certain scenarios? | 14:31 |
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| zeddii | but if make prepare is prompting you, there's something else wrong in what is packaged. the on target and esdk setups don't prompt, or if they are, that's wrong as well. | 14:31 |
| JesseVG | I agree, hence my question, it does feel wrong as well | 14:32 |
| zeddii | JesseVG: I thought that was a recipe snippet for the devsrc/headers packages, you can't run the prepare in our build/cross env and package the results to avoid it after they are installed onto the target. | 14:32 |
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| zeddii | but if that's on install, it could work, but install of devsrc can't fail due to a bad compile, etc, so it needs to be opt-in. | 14:33 |
| JesseVG | Nono it's not part of any recipe, it just installs 2 sh scripts for environment-setup.d and post-relocate-setup.d on sdk setup | 14:33 |
| zeddii | yes. I know that, hence why I said "I thought" | 14:34 |
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| JesseVG | Ah yeah, so any suggestions on how I could improve this or what you feel would be a more appropriate way to achieve this? | 14:37 |
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| JesseVG | I saw in the kernel-devsrc there's a bunch of things being done with make scripts/prepare and removing folders but I gotta be honest I'm a bit puzzled about it all :'( | 14:39 |
| zeddii | outside of it being something that should only run if someone is actually doing kernel module development with the SDK, and the echo, it is ok as something to set up the environment. | 14:40 |
| zeddii | the only time that a prompt happens during make prepare is when a dependency mismatch is picked up by the kernel Makefiles. It means something isn't in the SDK that we have when it is on target, or something in the environment is different than when we packaged the devsrc. | 14:41 |
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| zeddii | what it is, you have to troll the logs and Makefiles to see what it is. It's been any number of subtle things over the past decade or so that triggered it on the on-target "make scripts prepare" step. | 14:42 |
| JesseVG | Yeah the reason for running it was I'd get issues like this | 14:43 |
| JesseVG | armv8-2a-qcom-linux/usr/lib/modules/6.18.21-g7368c42b9cca-dirty/build/include/uapi/linux/types.h:5:10: fatal error: asm/types.h: No such file or directory | 14:43 |
| JesseVG | 5 | #include <asm/types.h> | 14:43 |
| JesseVG | | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~ | 14:43 |
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| zeddii | right. you absolutely have to run it, but it shouldn't be prompting. that means something is missing. a compiler definition, an include path, a .d file, something. | 14:44 |
| JesseVG | Got it, I'm gonna deep dive a bit more into why the prompting happens and what could be done about it, thanks for the info (y) | 14:44 |
| JesseVG | I'll probably come back to this once I'm a bit more informed on the cause behind it | 14:44 |
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| rburton | kanavin: fwiw, it looks like armv7 always has thumb | 16:07 |
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| rburton | struggling to find a concrete citation in the arm arm but there's a distinct lack of conditional words when talking about it | 16:08 |
| paulbarker | rburton: I enjoy that you can use the ARM ARM to find out about the A, R & M cores | 16:12 |
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| rburton | when you have a brand you run with it | 16:30 |
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| tlwoerner | i apologize for appearing to be flippant and belittling of the extensive work that has been done to-date on the wic project | 16:47 |
| tlwoerner | that was not my intent | 16:47 |
| tlwoerner | i simply would like to highlight current state of wic testing | 16:47 |
| tlwoerner | and suggest that much more focus needs to be paid in this regard | 16:47 |
| tlwoerner | on which i am currently working, extensively | 16:47 |
| kanavin | rburton, can you write a comment in the gstreamer ticket? | 16:48 |
| kanavin | rburton, https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/-/work_items/5164 | 16:49 |
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