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rob_whi guys , i trying to wrap my head around CVEs  and how to handle the workflow. I plan to use dependency-track and added meta-cyclonedx to create a sbom and it seems some vex.json .. does this sound correct ?07:16
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alperak@rob_w If you are using the Wrynose release, take a look at Bootlin's sbom-cve-check. It's a lightweight Python tool that analyzes an SBOM against CVE databases such as NVD and CVE List and reports the vulnerabilities affecting the listed components. One of its main advantages is that it can run independently of a Yocto build, making it suitable for CI/CD pipelines and post-build vulnerability monitoring. It is also integrated into07:45
alperakYocto Wrynose through the sbom-cve-check class, so it can be used directly within the Yocto workflow as well. I haven't used it myself yet but based on the documentation it appears to cover both build-integrated and post-build CVE analysis use cases.07:45
alperakDocs:07:45
alperakhttps://sbom-cve-check.readthedocs.io/en/latest/07:45
alperakhttps://docs.yoctoproject.org/wrynose//security-manual/vulnerabilities.html#checking-for-vulnerabilities07:45
alperakhttps://docs.yoctoproject.org/wrynose//ref-manual/classes.html#sbom-cve-check07:45
rob_wthanks alperak will look into that, although i am on scarthgap still07:47
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alperak@rob_w you are welcome.07:50
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walterHello, last month I've updated from Whinlatter to Wrynose and I noticed that many of the default kernel configs have changed and I looked into the code history, but I couldn't figure out why. Was there a change in how (KMETA?) defaults are being defined? (I'm on meta-rockchip)08:30
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walterAny pointers would be greatly appreciated. :) Thanks!08:32
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Guest82Hi everyone,10:43
Guest82I have two questions related to CVEs. I am using Yocto Wrynose with SBOM-CVE-Check. This generates a lot of CVEs, many of which have a score of 0.0 in all CVSS categories. When I randomly select a database link for one of these CVEs, I get scores which are not 0.0. Is there a bug in Yocto at the moment that causes it to falsely discover scores?10:43
Guest82Secondly, does Yocto have any affiliation with a CVE management tool such as DefectDojo to automate management? Thank you very much.10:43
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paulbarkerGuest82: CVSS scores can differ depending on where you get the data from, I think sbom-cve-check is pulling from NVD and the CVElist repository11:58
paulbarkerI don't know anything about DefectDojo, can it read from SBOM files?11:58
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Guest82paulbarker Yes, it's getting its data from NVD. On NVD, the scores are given; however, the Yocto SBOM-JSON file fills it with 0.12:03
Guest82No, DefectDojo uses other JSON formats for scanning. You have to convert sbom-json into a format that DefectDojo understands. That's why I asked if Yocto is already affiliated with any tool.12:03
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rburtonGuest82: file a bug at https://github.com/bootlin/sbom-cve-check/ with as much information as you can12:26
Guest82rburton alright12:27
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JesseVGI've been trying to add my nativesdk stuff to kernel-devsrc but I keep failing on do_install for these files12:38
JesseVGdiff --git a/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/kernel-devsrc.bb b/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/kernel-devsrc.bb12:38
JesseVGindex 62f5df7a01..c99e7120a6 10064412:38
JesseVG--- a/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/kernel-devsrc.bb12:38
JesseVG+++ b/meta/recipes-kernel/linux/kernel-devsrc.bb12:38
JesseVG@@ -6,12 +6,20 @@ development or external module builds"12:38
JesseVG SECTION = "kernel"12:38
JesseVG LICENSE = "GPL-2.0-only"12:38
JesseVG+LIC_FILES_CHKSUM = "file://${COREBASE}/meta/files/common-licenses/GPL-2.0-only;md5=801f80980d171dd6425610833a22dbe6"12:38
JesseVG inherit kernelsrc12:38
JesseVG # Whilst not a module, this ensures we don't get multilib extended (which would make no sense)12:38
JesseVG inherit module-base12:38
JesseVG+FILESEXTRAPATHS:prepend := "${THISDIR}/kernel-devsrc:"12:38
JesseVG+12:38
JesseVG+SRC_URI:append:class-nativesdk = " \12:38
JesseVG+    file://kernel-devsrc/linux-environment.sh \12:38
JesseVG+    file://kernel-devsrc/linux-setup.sh \12:38
JesseVG+"12:38
JesseVG+12:38
JesseVG # We need the kernel to be staged (unpacked, patched and configured) before12:38
JesseVG # 5.13+ needs grep for powerpc12:38
JesseVG RDEPENDS:${PN}:append:powerpc = " grep"12:38
JesseVG+12:38
JesseVG+BBCLASSEXTEND = "nativesdk"12:38
JesseVG\ No newline at end of file12:38
paulbarkerJesseVG: Please use a pastebin12:38
JesseVGAnd the scripts are under a new folder kernel-devsrc where kernel-devsrc.bb is located, am I doing something wrong here? I would presume it'd fail early on the fact it's in the SRC_URI and it can't find the files12:38
JesseVGOh right sorry :)12:39
JesseVGhttps://pastebin.com/diwPR45412:39
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paulbarkerJesseVG: Have you checked that the files show up in the workdir?12:40
paulbarkerI wonder if they're just ${UNPACKDIR}/linux-environment.sh & ${UNPACKDIR}/linux-setup.sh12:41
paulbarkerAnd you maybe just need the URIs to be file://linux-environment.sh & file://linux-setup.sh if you've already set FILESEXTRAPATHS appropriately12:42
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JesseVGAh right sorry that was my dumb next attempt12:47
JesseVGI did remove those extra paths, the files don't even show up in my workdir12:47
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paulbarkerJesseVG: What's your bitbake command? `bitbake kernel-devsrc-nativesdk`? TBH I'm not sure how kernel-devsrc makes sense for nativesdk as the kernel provider may differ depending on the target MACHINE12:51
JesseVGYeah, but I figured I should start by adding SDK setup stuff to kernel-devsrc that way, I'll probably get plenty of feedback on that once it works :p12:52
paulbarkerJesseVG: Look in kernelsrc.bbclass, it has `deltask do_fetch`as it relies on already unpacked kernel sources, so SRC_URI will be ignored12:52
JesseVGHah, my god12:52
paulbarkerJesseVG: The kernel-devsrc recipe is intended to capture the kernel sources you build for a particular target, so it doesn't make sense to be nativesdk as that would be machine-independent12:53
JesseVGWhere would it make most sense to add such scripts then?12:53
paulbarkerJesseVG: Thinking about it, you may want some separate nativesdk pacakge for your scripts12:54
JesseVGIt's in essence nothing more than exporting KERNEL_SRC and doing "make scripts; make prepare" so you can immediately compile OOT modules for target12:54
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paulbarkerJesseVG: Have you looked at `make-mod-scripts_1.0.bb`?12:55
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JesseVGHmm just did but not sure how that would help me12:57
paulbarkerJesseVG: That's what is used when building out-of-tree module recipes12:57
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JesseVGShould I make a nativesdk variant of it you mean with those changes?12:58
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paulbarkerJesseVG: It can't be nativesdk, it needs to be machine-dependent12:59
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JesseVGAh right derp, the way I do it now it's pretty much host polluting it13:00
paulbarkerJesseVG: I guess you'd need to add a dependency on make-mod-scripts:do_configure to do_populate_sdk, then capture then kernel sources as part of do_populate_sdk. This is thinking right off the top of my head though, there will be implications I haven't thought about13:02
paulbarkerIt would require some experimentation!13:02
JesseVGOh yeah I'm gonna try out some stuff13:03
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JesseVGIt was just some dumb stuff I added blindly for my sdk which made compiling OOT modules a lot more pleasant13:03
paulbarkerThe SDK is mainly targeted at application developers so things like "How do I build out-of-tree modules with an SDK?" may not be well answered so far13:03
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JesseVGFigured it'd be nice to have that in there, but quickly realized it's not gonna be trivial :p13:03
JesseVGHey we'll get there 8)13:04
JesseVGAt least now my rust apps build out of the box without figuring out a target13:04
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JesseVGOOT modules is the final one X)13:05
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JesseVGBut thanks a lot Paul, got some new things to dive into (y) µ13:12
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frezidokHello. Does anyone know if wic supports arbitrary gpt placement on disk? I need u-boot (on 8K offset) -> gpt table -> rootfs.  "bootloader --ptable gpt" places table on the begging of the disk so u-boot is shifted and bootrom cannot find it.14:27
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rburtonfrezidok: you might find genimage a bit more flexible if you have interesting requirements14:35
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frezidokrburton: I also thought of this, but it's already on wic so I didn't want to migrate... By the way, looks like I've found a patch for wic (from 2024) on patchwork that seems to add this functionality, but apparently (and sadly) it died on review14:52
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rburtonfrezidok: wic is under new maintainership now so poke tlwoerner about that14:58
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rburtonmoto-timo: does anything actually use rrs/tools/rrs_distros.py? part of the layer index but unsure if it's ever actually used these days.15:10
moto-timorburton: short answer, I don't know15:10
rburtonits mentioned in a cron job but i suspect we don't run it anywhere15:11
moto-timoRRS is general is not fully functional15:11
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rburtoni want to delete the code in yocto that does that logic, it's very old and probably broken anyway15:11
moto-timomakes sense... you could file a bug for RRS so we don't lose the ask15:12
moto-timowe had some capability in the past to compare recipe versions to distros e.g. Debian or Fedora, but most of that needed to be augmented for the yocto-comparison tool that never went through the OS PDT process so it never left internal Intel GitHub15:13
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moto-timothat tool was a repurposing of https://github.com/intel/clear-linux-dissector-web and/or https://github.com/intel/clear-linux-dissector15:15
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walterJesseVG: wouldn't it be easier to just have a recipe that makes an archive of `STAGING_KERNEL_BUILDDIR` (or whatever contains the sources) and ships it with the SDK and then you just point something like `KERNEL_SRC` in the sdk to that extracted file? and use that to build the OOT module? kernel-devsrc seems to do a lot of extra work.15:29
walterBut STAGING_KERNEL_BUILDDIR seems like an overkill, you already have the headers in the SDK. Is anything else needed?15:30
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walterfrezidok, what are you actually trying to achieve, you can already have things at random places if you don't need the first few bytes used for the GPT table. See: https://paste.sr.ht/blob/2315db45b89254f2b6cfab8413b7ae7ca83dd35915:36
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zeddiikernel devsrc provides everything needed to build out of tree modules. anything else is a hack and you'll get cross architecture issues if you try to create a package from it.15:37
zeddiiwe wouldn't have done devsrc if it was incomplete, that's literally why it exists.15:37
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tlwoernerfrezidok: can you provide a link?15:43
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tlwoerneri think 2024 predates my decision to maintain wic, so i'm not aware of any patches. i'll check the bugzilla, and make a note to look for older patches15:44
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JesseVGzeddii that's not the intent behind it, it's just that it's missing a couple small things to make it a more out of the box experience17:15
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zeddiithere's a bugzilla from 2013 on that. It's neither.17:16
zeddiithe hacks have never justified just not running "make scripts prepare" before doing a kernel module build.17:17
zeddiiand that SDK users just don't typically build kernel modules. We moved much more into lock sigs and esdk in the intervening decade or so.17:18
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JesseVGI'm aware, and I'm a big fan of the eSDK concept myself, unfortunately I got a very large team of non-yocto experts/users to keep happy who are looking for an "easy" way to do things like build a c++/rust app, tweak a kernel module17:21
JesseVGI know that might sound stupid, but it was already a whole thing just to get them to source an SDK or have their toolchain file point into one, so if there's something "easy" I can add that would make it work, perfect, if not, that's fine and I'll just push for eSDK usage for these people who will need it17:22
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zeddiiwithout the "e" in the esdk there's an updating it issue (not really from the kernel point of view though, as it doesn't change much (as you know)). In the past, it has just been some sort of shared install, so those SDK users don't worry about the installation of it.17:23
zeddiiand whoever does the install, arranges for the kernel scripts to be re-created. hence why it has sat for so long as a concept in bugzilla.17:24
zeddiiTo do it right, we could revive the qemu usermode bits and pieces that were done and run the prepare/scripts in the build and just package them up in the right architecture. but that wouldn't solve the env addons you were looking at.17:25
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JesseVGProbably a big ask for a 13yo bug :p but do you have a link to it or some work related to it? I'd be glad to take a look17:26
zeddiihttps://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438917:26
JesseVGIf that is resolved that way, the env thing is pretty minor honestly, it just sets KERNEL_SRC and that's it17:26
JesseVGThanks!17:26
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JesseVGOh it's your bug report too haha, didn't even notice at first17:28
mathieudbkanavin: I don't now how, but I managed to skip your meta-yocto patch. Found it now, thanks17:28
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