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tlwoernerRP: my AI is now scared of you:01:55
tlwoerner"This is a factual error in the patch that's heading to the OE-Core mailing list, and I need to fix it before Richard reviews it."01:55
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JaMatlwoerner: :)05:48
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RPtlwoerner: that is new! :)06:44
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LetoThe2ndRP: congrats!08:38
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yoctontlwoerner: mine tells me to ask the Yocto LTS branch maintainer...08:53
RPyocton: nice :)08:53
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rburtonturned off system library vendoring for rust code and now wondering why so many recipes link to libgit209:43
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RPrburton: you broke things, I had to add nativesdk to libgit209:43
RP;-)09:43
rburtonah nuts09:43
rburtoni'm still chasing fails in meta-oe09:43
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RPrburton: I have a patch09:43
rburtonthat branch can brew a bit more, feel free to drop it from testing09:44
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RPrburton: Passes fine for oe-core09:47
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RPmathieudb: we should be sure to log spdx.SPDX30Check.test_baremetal_helloworld in https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/48/builds/424309:52
RPParsing recipes...WARNING: /srv/pokybuild/yocto-worker/oe-selftest-fedora/build/layers/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-devtools/pseudo/pseudo_git.bb: Exception during build_dependencies for fetcher_hashes_dummyfunc: ExpansionError('fetcher_hashes_dummyfunc[vardepvalue]', '${@bb.fetch.get_hashvalue(d)}', FetchError('The SRCREV_FORMAT variable must be set when multiple SCMs are used.\nThe SCMs are:\ngit://git.yoctoproject.org/pseudo;branch=m09:53
RPaster;protocol=https;tag=pseudo-1.9.10+git\ngit://git.yoctoproject.org/pseudo;branch=master;protocol=https;tag=pseudo-1.9.10', None))09:53
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RPThe SCMs are: git://git.yoctoproject.org/pseudo;branch=master;protocol=https;tag=pseudo-1.9.10+git09:53
RPgit://git.yoctoproject.org/pseudo;branch=master;protocol=https;tag=pseudo-1.9.1009:53
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RPwhy are there two SRC_URI entries in there?!09:53
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JesseVGI'm trying to get cxxopts in my SDK, ideally this would be done through DEPENDS of what's in the image, but it's header only so that doesn't work, would anyone know of a better solution than forcing it onto TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK somewhere?09:54
RPJesseVG: that is a tricky one we've struggled with before. dev-pkgs works off what gets installed into the image so that information gets "lost" :/09:55
rburtonJesseVG: using _TARGET_TASK is the solution here, sadly.09:56
JesseVGYeah I was scouring through any mailing lists/discussions but came up pretty empty handed09:56
RPprobably worth a bug but isn't easy to solve. Since we filter the rootfs package feeds now you could change from using the manifests to installing every -dev package present I guess09:56
RPIf you ALLOW_EMPTY on the PN for it, that might also work09:58
RPi.e. let it install an empty package09:58
RPnot ideal, I know09:58
JesseVGI did try that, threw that in a bbappend, and while I had cxxopts as depends in an included recipe, I still didn't get the header09:59
JesseVGThough I didn't try by adding it to the IMAGE_INSTALL directly, but that would sort of defeat the point of having this included transiently09:59
RPJesseVG: you could put a manual RDEPENDS from XXX-dev to cxxopts-dev ?10:03
RPi.e. the thing which needs it can have the dependency ?10:04
JesseVGThat...could actually work, I'm on it10:04
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RPrburton, paulbarker, yocton: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?h=master-next&id=8e5c1ec1927ba61654eacd3cf762ca3c79070218 - we dropped i686 in the new uniative - are we ok dropping i686 uninative in the LTSs ?10:05
RPthat workaround is horrible but I'm struggling to see what else we can do without losing the test10:06
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yoctonRP: that would be a major breaking change for i686 users... I don't know if we have any though...10:12
RPyocton: it would, but we have to stop publishing uninative at some point and I'm not convinced there are many people able to build on i686 anymore10:12
RPfor that reason, I am tempted to say we should do it...10:13
JesseVGSounds like a good candidate for the scream test10:13
RPthey can always just not use uninative...10:14
RPor build their own10:14
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RPor stick with the old version for that matter10:15
yoctonYeah , lack of uninative is a major change but not a breaking one.10:15
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RPI'll try and get this discussed with the TSC so we have a decision by the time you need to think about it10:17
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yoctonI'd agree to merge on LTS with TSC backing and documentation on how to bandaid the regression if met by a i686 user10:18
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RPyocton: "Don't use uninative, or switch uninative back to an older version, or build your own uninative tarball" ;-)10:29
LetoThe2ndi686? Did NASA show up again?10:35
RPLetoThe2nd: we're trying to drop it!10:36
JesseVGTbh if you're still running an i686 on a distro modern enough to actually compile things, and then compile Yocto stuff on it, I'm sure your beard has enough grey hairs to figure that out10:37
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JesseVGRP that RDEPENDS trick works, though I did need an additional INSANE_SKIP:${PN} += "dev-deps"10:54
JesseVGIt's not the cleanest thing, but at least that way it sticks alongside the recipe that depends on it and I don't require some obscure _TARGET_TASK append elsewhere10:57
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RPJesseVG: yes, it sounds like a "least worst" option11:05
RPnot quite sure why the dev-deps qa check would trigger but...11:05
JesseVGAh wait my bad, I added it to RDEPENDS:${PN} not RDEPENDS:${PN}-dev11:07
JesseVGMy bad!11:07
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RPheh, QA checks for the win!11:08
JesseVGYeah my brain just thought "damnit, but I need it in there" without thinking too much about it11:08
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JesseVGAlready looks cleaner :)11:09
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RPgah, another "ERROR: the installer requires the en_US.UTF-8 locale to be installed (but not selected), please install it first"11:20
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RPof course no debug on that one11:20
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rburtoncan someone with current master verify that librav1e in meta-oe doesn't build for them either?16:42
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colin-pmGot a question for everyone. For backport patches, the recipe style guide states that the tag should point to the upstream commit. What about if the patch is a backport, but the significantly diverges from the  upstream commit and is sourced from a 3rd party like Debian?16:47
colin-pmI almost feel like some other tag (e.g., "Sourced-from:") should be used so there's traceability where the patch file was sourced from.16:48
colin-pmI guess my question is if this is a problem others think is worth standardizing? and if so, if anyone has any proposals for a standard?16:49
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rburtoni'd still mark it as a backport (as the intention is to say 'this should disappear at some point') but leave a comment saying it was rewritten to apply16:50
colin-pmYeah, I get the point of the commit used in "Upstream-Status: Backport [...]" is used to understand when a patch should disappear, so I don't want the Sourced-from URL to replace that information.16:51
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colin-pmThe Sourced-From URL would be really useful to ensure a patch is valid when it doesn't match the commit in the Upstream-Status tag at all16:52
colin-pme.g., https://github.com/andrej-khl/meta-lts-collab/blob/7f57f92b1a9cf5c8a0849bf5fe3e03eda90b5375/meta-core/recipes-support/curl/files/CVE-2026-5773.patch16:53
colin-pmI figured I could adopt a standard in meta-lts-collab, but I'd be happier if it could match a standard in the Yocto style guide.16:55
rburtonthere's no standard for that, yet16:55
rburtonfeel free to start using Sourced-From :)16:55
colin-pmSounds good, thank you16:56
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colin-pmI'd be happy to submit a proposal for an addition to the style guide docs.16:58
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zeddiiSourced-from reads wrong to me. Consider we build from source.17:00
zeddiiWe always used something  that isn't a tag. just "reference commit" or "inspired by" sort of things. and don't forget, that's what the [ ] after your Signed-off-by is supposed to explain, what do you for deviations from the original.17:00
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rburtonkhem: can you confirm that librav1e fails in current meta-oe master?17:05
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khemIt did have some hiccups after nasm stuff but they all are fixed iirc17:38
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colin-pmI looked around to see if there's any other prior art for the problem I'm dealing with and I do like the "Origin" tag in Debian's DEP-3 standard: https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep3/18:05
jmdHow can I test whether a make instance has been called from oe_runmake or a normal make?18:06
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rburtonjmd: oe_runmake is just calling make19:07
rburtonyou could pass a variable in the recipe, if you need the makefile to do something special19:08
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rburtonkhem: can you verify that :) for me it tries looking for eg libm in /usr/lib64/ which is a target path, not a host path. and obviously shouldn't be using target paths without sysroot when cross compiling.19:13
khemHmm19:14
rburtonhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZPO7ewC1/19:17
rburton(target build)19:17
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