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| marex | paulbarker: thanks for helping get the fitimage fixes backported | 00:55 |
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| Xogium | is this normal? | 06:32 |
| Xogium | 0: cve-update-nvd2-native-1.0-r0 do_fetch - 42m45s (pid 51190) 58% | 06:32 |
| Xogium | why is it taking so long? :/ | 06:32 |
| RP | Xogium: upstream is probably slow :( | 06:32 |
| Xogium | slow indeed :S | 06:32 |
| Xogium | doing a first attempt at a build and I have tasks that failed, but I'm now stuck waiting for this to finish fetching, because far as I'm aware doing ctrl+c will stop and resume all the way from the beginning for this one | 06:33 |
| RP | Xogium: it is painful :/ If you do have to stop it, you might be able to grab a mirror tarball from the yocto mirror | 06:39 |
| Xogium | isn't this what is done atm though? Unless do_fetch is explicitly using git? | 06:40 |
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| RP | Xogium: mirror tarballs are probably the fallback after the main repo? | 06:41 |
| RP | depends how it is configured though | 06:41 |
| RP | check the ps output and see what it is running | 06:42 |
| Xogium | yep lets see | 06:42 |
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| Xogium | hmmm I just see /usr/bin/python3.11 as executable and the comm is the cve-update thing | 06:44 |
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| RP | Xogium: ah, its doing the database update things then. That can be slow :( | 07:01 |
| RP | I've tried to forget that craziness, master doesn't do that anymore thankfully | 07:02 |
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| Xogium | oh? | 07:08 |
| Xogium | so master does it another way ? | 07:08 |
| Xogium | oof finally finished | 07:08 |
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| Xogium | omg I like buildhistory so mch :D | 09:09 |
| Xogium | much, even | 09:09 |
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| Xogium | do you folks prefer a kernel with modules or one that has everything required already built-in? | 09:13 |
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| RP | Xogium: depends on what you're doing with it! | 09:19 |
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| RP | some systems are used in specific well defined ways and make sense as a single binary. Some need various options and making them loadable makes sense | 09:20 |
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| Xogium | right, that's what I thought | 09:20 |
| Xogium | in my case I suppose having all the needed stuff built-in can't hurt. I'm working on hardware that will be outside year-round, and which mainly streams audio over the network | 09:22 |
| Xogium | nothing too fancy | 09:22 |
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| mcfrisk | Xogium: built-in drivers can be slower to boot then with modules. depends on the amount of selected config. if boot time matters, and some well specified functionality is really critical, including some userspace parts, then modules, initramfs etc help. | 09:44 |
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| Xogium | that makes sense | 09:45 |
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| yannd | RP: wrt my question yesterday... I already have that file in SRC_URI literally (https://github.com/xcp-ng/dnf-bridge/pull/1/changes#diff-d8e213b61b935a9335130b568a63a26a0345dccfdba985081fd684c1601f1e2eR11), so I'd expect it to be a dependency already. Adding SRC_URI[file-checksums] += "${SPECFILE_fn}:True" does not change the behavior | 12:34 |
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| yannd | Linked to that I think, I'm kinda puzzled how the anynomous python blocks are handled, and why they can not get rerun. I don't picture them with a taskhash that would allow to decide not to run the code - how would we eg. add a [vardeps] to that when needed? | 12:38 |
| RP | yannd: it depends whether you expect it to always run everything or not. The design is that it doesn't and it tries to cache. It would be a lot simpler if we just reran everything every time and ignored the caches | 12:42 |
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| yannd | I have no issue with that being cached if I can adjust what influences the results. I do have a case where on a task I'd need to set a [vardeps], how can I do that here? | 12:48 |
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| RP | yannd: Looking at bitbake, file-checksums has to be added to tasks, not variables | 12:49 |
| RP | yannd: so rather than SRC_URI[file-checksums], try a task | 12:50 |
| yannd | so my 2 questions boil down to one: when it is an anonymous python block and not a task, how do I do that? | 12:50 |
| RP | a task is something which you add with addtask | 12:51 |
| RP | anonymous python is never a task | 12:51 |
| RP | do_fetch[file-checksums] += "${SPECFILE}:True" | 12:52 |
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| yannd | that flag on do_fetch does not help, the anonymous block still does not get rerun | 13:05 |
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| yannd | what controls its caching? | 13:06 |
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| yannd | RP: I can see where such blocks are parsed in ast.MethodNode, and they seem to be essentially run in ast.finalize(), right? But I don't see the caching mechanism involved | 14:52 |
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| RP | yannd: I guess this is subtly different to how our existing code works. There, we make sure the code reruns, not necessarily reparses but you want a full reparse. | 15:33 |
| RP | yannd: I guess you'd have to hack the spec file timestamp into the dependency tree | 15:33 |
| RP | yannd: basically what bb.parse.mark_dependency does | 15:34 |
| RP | perhaps call that | 15:34 |
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| yannd | thx, will look at that next week | 15:48 |
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| Xogium | so... Is it just me or is storing u-boot env in the eMMC rather fragile? Or rather, storing the env on any device where its space is shared with something else in the first place | 16:26 |
| Xogium | I don't know, that bothers me. The risk of overlapping, and colliding either with the rootfs, or with the data partition... | 16:27 |
| Xogium | makes me uneasy | 16:27 |
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| Xogium | previous hardware I had decided on had an eeprom so I could avoid this entirely, but I ended up dropping it and going to another that does not have | 16:29 |
| Xogium | over there my options would be eMMC or micro sd, and micro sd is just actively worse | 16:29 |
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| colin-pm | Best practices question: If someone backports a CVE fix patch that exists on a newer Yocto version, are they expected to also sign off the patch files? I assume not since the Yocto commit adding the patch file(s) is generally just cherry-picked. | 16:51 |
| RP | colin-pm: generally not | 16:52 |
| colin-pm | I'm trying to settle on a policy for meta-lts-collab, since in this case it's more than cherry-picking a commit, where another author is making the commit with the patch files. | 16:53 |
| colin-pm | (The patch files were sourced from oe-core) | 16:54 |
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| colin-pm | I think in my case I'll ask for the commit author to append their own signature. | 16:58 |
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| RP | colin-pm: you have to ask what value/purpose is that doing? If it has one, great. If not... | 20:19 |
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| colin-pm | RP: Since meta-lts-collab is a separate project from oe-core or meta-oe, carrying a patch over feels like a separate contribution that requires a new signed-off-by line? Whereas cherry-picking a commit between branches in oe-core and meta-oe probably doesn't. It's kind of a low value decision, but I want to be consistent in what I ask from contributors and what goes into the layer. | 20:27 |
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| colin-pm | Patch provenance is something I care a lot about with this layer. | 20:30 |
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| RP | colin-pm: I may not be the best person to talk to as I'm not convinced patch files require signed off by lines in addition to the commit message. Personally, I just think they need authorship informaiton | 21:03 |
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| RP | A s-o-b in a commit message has a specific meaning. One in a patch file has no such definition | 21:04 |
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| colin-pm | Yeah, I get that. It's just weird as-is right now. Example: https://github.com/garmin/meta-lts-collab/pull/221/changes#diff-f9ff949fd75f6ad007d287ac65f6da1a3c49968604a99d1e0dfee5fedb4d6ab7 | 21:18 |
| RP | I guess I just offer a perspective... | 21:19 |
| colin-pm | RP: I appreciate yours. It mostly makes me think I'm probably overthinking this. | 21:21 |
| RP | could be :) | 21:22 |
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