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| ernstp | was there a good way to debug which full path a SRC_URI file resolved to? if you have lots of machine overrides etc | 06:52 |
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| mckoan | ernstp: bitbake-getvar -r recipename SRC_URI | 06:55 |
| ernstp | mckoan: no I mean SRC_URI contains something short like "defconfig", but which file on disk does it pick given the context... | 06:57 |
| yocton | ernstp: I would look into the do_fetch logs | 06:59 |
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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:11 |
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| yocton | hello paulbarker, welcome back :D | 07:22 |
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| RP- | paulbarker: welcome back! | 07:57 |
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| paulbarker | RP-: Thanks! I'm catching up on emails this morning, let me know if there's anything urgent I need to look at. | 09:03 |
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| RP- | paulbarker: nothing urgent, happy to sync up if it makes sense at some point | 09:17 |
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| aduskett | ok, getting back into dnf5 | 09:27 |
| aduskett | The `error: ‘parse’ is not a member of ‘std::chrono’`. std::chrono::parse is part of the C++20 standard... | 09:28 |
| aduskett | Does debian 12 not include a gcc compatible with c++ 20?! | 09:28 |
| aduskett | It does not | 09:29 |
| aduskett | shit | 09:29 |
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| MaciejKomorowski | Hello Every Yocto Fan, I start my journey with Yocto now | 09:38 |
| KanjiMonster | aduskett: just to make sure, --std=c++20 (or --std=gnu++20) does not work/help? AFAIU gcc 12 should support c++20, but it defaults to c++17 | 09:41 |
| aduskett | KanjiMonster, the CMAKE_CXX_STANDARD is set to 20 | 09:43 |
| aduskett | it's a gcc12 vs gcc 14 thing. std::chrono::parse was added in gcc 14 | 09:44 |
| aduskett | and debian 12 has gcc 12 iirc | 09:44 |
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| RP- | my irc client is rendering that as std::chrono: <emoji> arse which seems appropriate somehow | 09:45 |
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| aduskett | lmao | 09:46 |
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| KanjiMonster | aduskett: ah, I see | 09:47 |
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| aduskett | hooray for a nasty ifdef | 09:53 |
| aduskett | at least it's only in one place, but there is no way that upstream will accept such a patch | 09:53 |
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| aduskett | I'm not even sure how to go about this | 10:01 |
| RP | aduskett: we mark the patch as Inappropriate and document why we have it | 10:04 |
| aduskett | RP, yeah, just not sure how to write the fix is all lol | 10:05 |
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| aduskett | maybe I just wait 2 years so I don't have to support Debian 12 :P | 10:08 |
| rburton | debian 12 LTS expires june 2028. | 10:10 |
| aduskett | so two years :P | 10:10 |
| rburton | we should remember that and consider dropping debian 12 in the april 2028 release | 10:10 |
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| rburton | my pypa-packaging bug for the occasional test failures now has two different upstream pull requests created by AI | 10:19 |
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| yocton | rburton: ask them to review each other? ^^ | 10:29 |
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| neachdainn | I'm looking at moving from Kas to bitbake-setup. The problem I'm facing is that we utilize Kas's "patch" ability to selectively pull in changes from Yocto's master branch but I don't see anything similar in bitbake-setup. Is that a planned feature, a deliberately missing feature, or am I just not seeing it? | 11:51 |
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| rburton | neachdainn: kanavin_ might have opinions on whether that will ever be a feature, but it's not a feature right now | 11:59 |
| rburton | (for similar reasons, we're staying with kas) | 12:00 |
| rburton | kas isn't going away, they're both slightly different tools | 12:00 |
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| Xogium | I *LOVE* kas, personally. Especially kas-container ;) | 12:08 |
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| Xogium | my archlinux system's just not doing well with the yocto project, and I hate having to clean up behind things like docker leaving a mess behind when they're not of use anymore, like broken down containers, dangling volumes, etc. | 12:09 |
| neachdainn | The two main things that are pushing me towards bitbake-setup are the fragments handing and better defaults for building multiple different configurations. I know I can make Kas do those things as well but I'd rather have them built-in rather than writing workarounds, you know? | 12:09 |
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| rburton | neachdainn: you can do fragments with kas, as they're just assignments in the conf file | 12:12 |
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| rburton | but set your requirements and pick a tool. kas is still maintained, just like bitbake-setup is. | 12:12 |
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| rburton | RP: i have a lead for the cython upgrade | 13:03 |
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| RP | rburton: ah, nice. I've been trying to ignore that one for some reason! | 13:25 |
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| rburton | because its horrible | 13:27 |
| rburton | i don't blame you | 13:27 |
| rburton | native build fails in oe, but works outside. so doing more combinations to find a common cause. | 13:28 |
| RP | rburton: that is a little unexpected :/ | 13:28 |
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| rburton | yeah, the codegen is different with 3.14 vs 3.11 (debian 11's) and i'm wondering if they're accidentally generating code that older gcc doesn't like | 13:29 |
| RP | rburton: I can imagine how that could happen | 13:31 |
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| kanavin_ | neachdainn, yes, right now you need to push oldrelease+cherry-picks into a repo somewhere instead of fetching directly from upstream and patching after the fact. I don't think that's too horrible? | 16:04 |
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| kanavin_ | in other news, I've uploaded my bitbake-setup slides for upcoming talk in ELC Prague: https://osselceu2026.sched.com/event/2Rag1 | 16:09 |
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| kanavin_ | it was quite satisfying to replace 'prototype' 'master-next' 'alex's private fork' with 'master' 'shipped' 'available in pip' etc :D | 16:09 |
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| rburton | devonian_invader: search youtube, alex has presented in the past | 21:41 |
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