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DeepeshGood morning, everyone! I wanted to kindly check on the current status of Blacksail. Can we backport relevant patches that have already been merged into master? Is there a planned code freeze date ? Thank you!04:17
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yoctonDeepesh: hello, blacksail branches are now maintained under stable policy (bug fixes only). Features freeze was a few weeks ago. And maintenance will stop in 6 months.05:57
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yanndI can't easily find out where to look for the exact commit tested by the autobuilder, when a failure is reported from testing one of my patches. What do I miss?08:46
yoctonyannd: in the "Build Properties" tab?08:47
yanndyocton: thx!08:54
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mathieudbyannd: I confirm I can reproduce the issue locally09:47
mathieudbyannd: just with "bitbake-selftest bb.tests.data.TestOverrides.test_append_in_expanded_override"09:47
mathieudbAnd using this branch: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-ci-archive/log/?h=bitbake/autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/a-full-491309:47
mathieudbyannd: I did not had to particularly modify my local.conf here, but if needed, the configuration used on the autobuilder can be found in the "Bitbake Selftest: Write config" step09:49
yanndmathieudb: do you activate bitbake in a venv, or otherwise initialize the environment?09:57
mathieudbyannd: I just used oe-init-build-env here09:58
yanndhm, so it's not "just bitbake"09:59
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mathieudbyannd: true. And the autobuilder is using '. ./init-build-env; bitbake-selftest'10:02
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yanndmathieudb: do you have a quick reference to setup the same environment from scratch?11:21
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RPyannd: this isn't hard. the reproducer is simply "git clone https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake-contrib; cd bitbake-contrib; git checkout rpurdie/tempA; ./bin/bitbake-selftest bb.tests.data.TestOverrides.test_append_in_expanded_override"11:39
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RPi.e. it is "just" bitbake11:40
RPtempA just being a branch with your patches in it11:41
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yannd:face_palm: I did not realize it was *another test* failing11:53
yanndhm. I added env tracking to that test to understand the differences between runs - result is https://paste.vates.tech/?6dbf3d542ac691e2#C9W2r4terrvCwy616rw4vZX3a3gMYTzQhAuHK33u8zLB12:18
yanndCan it be that this "pn-gizmo-${MACHINE}" override was just ignored because of the uppercase filtering?12:19
yanndActually I cannot understand from that log where "appended" comes from in the "good" case, so I'm likely doing something wrong12:21
yanndmy diff and the "good" output: https://paste.vates.tech/?cd9ad0dbc4af84dc#6uEbYUWpyc8YZkK34mmW6ms48sGXaWvbUuBNpfYij8iX12:22
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RPyannd: you probably need to exclude the $ character from that regex so the key expansion can happen on the key elements :/12:27
RPyannd: that might not be quite the right fix though :/12:27
RPthis is why I've been waiting for some decent chunk of time to look at this properly as the side effects are not simple12:28
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yanndFrom what Claude explains about all it all works, I find it pretty convincing that excluding $ might be the right fix.  Let me check I understand correctly: in current code, in original setVar call the regexp does not match so it stores a variable name including $ and caps. Later during finalization expandKeys then calls renameVar and setVar, at which point the regexp matches and the override is detected. Now with the revert the text with the13:14
yanndunexpanded variable gets mistaken for a literal override, which matches none and gets discarded.  Does that make sense?13:14
yanndIt would look like just excluding $ would be the right way to prevent that to happen to variables.  Claude suggests to exclude {} as well, but I'm not convinced that would have any value13:15
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RPthe other approach is to make sure overrides are expanded inside the stores. I think I had some code which did that but it wasn't needed, now we might know why13:22
RPthe fact you're relying on AI for this does also worry me as there is an overall architecture consistency element to it which I'm not sure AI will consider :/13:23
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yanndActually I'm not familiar enough with the overall bb code to be as thorough as you would, and with the time I can allocate to this the AI is the closest I can get :)  I'll post an updated series, including a test fixing another issue, I'll let you judge.13:33
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RPI guess I just want to be clear I don't want to rush into these changes13:58
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yanndfair enough, we can live with local patches to bitbake if needed - even though I'd prefer to have 2.18 work out of the box :)14:08
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jmdI've got a recipe which calls useradd in the do_install function.  How can I avoid it dumping messages into the build host's syslog?14:40
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jmdDitto for usermod14:41
rburtoni thought we'd fixed that, what release?14:42
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jmdscarthgap14:43
jmdIs there a backport patch I can apply?14:43
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RPjmd: look at the patches to the shadow recipe14:55
RPjmd: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=a52572886e60e4aff9d54b57bf45a301e1dec1ee14:56
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yanndRP: lib.oe does not include all its modules in BBIMPORTS, it would seem useful to make explicit the rationale for which ones to include in there?15:08
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RPJPEW: can you remember why we have some things in BBIMPORTS and why we exclude functions starting with "_" as internal including __init__ ?15:10
JPEWNot off the top of my head15:11
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