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| HarishSadineni | RP: can we backport the rust multilib bugfix series for blacksail & wrynose. | 10:13 |
| HarishSadineni | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=eff3abdb https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=4ded97c2 https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=d4d39fed https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=482cc0ad | 10:13 |
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| paulbarker | HarishSadineni: Please send an email to the mailing list and Cc Yoann as he is the stable branch maintainer | 10:15 |
| yocton | HarishSadineni: How confident are you that it won't break any user's code? | 10:17 |
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| HarishSadineni | yocton: The fixes are already in master and haven’t caused any breakage for users so far. I will still test them thoroughly on blacksail and wrynose before submitting the backports. | 10:27 |
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| yocton | HarishSadineni: what works for master does not automatically apply for stables. On master we may expect users to adapt their code to our changes, we can't on stables. | 10:31 |
| yocton | HarishSadineni: but, yes, test/send the backports, we'll see | 10:31 |
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| rburton | we don't actually run piglit (GL tests) in any QA. should we move it to meta-oe until we actually do? it's useful for people doing gpu development or bsp validation so we should have a recipe _somewhere_ | 11:01 |
| RP | rburton: it is a good question. We'd intended to get there but clearly haven't yet :/ | 11:03 |
| rburton | i could see how slow/bad llvmpipe on qemu is | 11:07 |
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| RP | rburton: it would be interesting to know... | 11:45 |
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| yannd | What is the rationale behind STAMP including "${PV}"? Isn't "${PN}" sufficient for all purposes? I assumed a recipe cannot know the version of its dependencies, and has to look in deploy/ for artifacts based on the dependency's PN only (is that correct?), so I'm using a "deploy/**/${PN}/" directory t make the lookup possible. In that case, PV in the stamp causes issues when the dependency is bumped (especially when going back and forth | 12:39 |
| yannd | testing in an interactive rebase), since both versionned stamps are uptodate but only one actually exists in the fs. | 12:39 |
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| yannd | Since OE/bb only ever uses a single version of a given package at the same time, wouldn't it be sufficient to drop PV from STAMP? | 12:41 |
| yannd | It looks like the sstate code actually works around that, with STAMPCLEAN *not* including the PV part, doesn't that too speak for dropping PV from STAMP? | 12:42 |
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| berton | Hi! last week I asked: Does anyone know why there is an 'import oe.spdx30_tasks', e.g. here: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes/create-spdx-3.0.bbclass#n192, even though spdx30_tasks is in BBIMPORTS? Also, here: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes-global/package.bbclass?h=master#n391, packagedata is in BBIMPORTS, and in the same bbclass | 12:44 |
| berton | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes-global/package.bbclass?h=master#n486, cachedpath, which is also in BBIMPORTS, is used without importing the Python module. Is there a limitation that makes the use of import necessary? | 12:44 |
| berton | I didn't get any answer, and I noticed that yesterday a similar question was added here. I was trying to help a colleague and he created a thread here: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/247473. Does anyone know why the import is used in some cases? | 12:44 |
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| yannd | berton: did you try removing the import? It indeed feels redundant, from my (albeit recent) understanding | 12:48 |
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| berton | yes, but I'm wondering if there are corner cases, and only removing the import I can't see this issue. Example, updating the python module or a dependency in a way that task is not invalidated. | 12:54 |
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| RP | yannd: some of this is historical, you used to have no sstate, no manifests, no way to clean up files, no sysroots and back then, PV as part of STAMP made total sense | 13:02 |
| RP | yannd: it is in there from pre taskhash days and you can still configure the system to work without hashes | 13:02 |
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| RP | berton: I suspect BBIMPORTS (or its predecessor) didn't have them | 13:04 |
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| berton | @RP Right, I suspect something like that too. I asked to check if anyone recalls any specific corner case that isn't covered yet. | 13:19 |
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| yannd | RP: but now, there should not be any adverse effect not to have PV in there, right? | 13:22 |
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| RP | yannd: I don't know. I haven't and don't have the time to think through all the possible implications of removing that. | 13:33 |
| RP | it might work, it might totally break some corner cases and cause us no end of pain | 13:33 |
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| RP | yannd: I could drop everything else and focus on that but it doesn't really seem to be the best use of time :( | 13:34 |
| RP | berton: I do worry that if I don't remember, nobody else probably will :/ | 13:36 |
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| RP | yannd: I am worried it might "build" but break some aspects of usability/debugability too | 13:38 |
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| yannd | RP: I was no asking for that - it's just if you had an opinion off the top of your head. In dnf-bridge I'll be dropping it and see how it goes - the complexity there is far lower than that of oe-core for now ;) | 13:39 |
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| RP | yannd: I just worry that if I say "yes", you'll send patches and then I have to review them and do something about it :/ | 14:01 |
| RP | yannd: for what you're doing, you can probably change it. I've been considering changing WORKDIR for a long time | 14:01 |
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| yannd | RP: I clearly don't have the resources to test such a patch on OE scale, so I would clearly avoid diving into that :) | 14:18 |
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