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Dvorkinon my host machine I have unzip - 6.0. How to prevent Yocto to build unzip-native 6.0 ?06:44
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JaMause ASSUME_PROVIDED06:49
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JaMabut why do you wan to prevent it? I guess unzip doesn't take too long to build06:50
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DvorkinJaMa, it doesn't. But I upgraded my Mageia to 10 and have problems with the new gcc 15 + Yccto Kirkstone while building the sources.06:54
DvorkinSo my next question is: what would you recommend in my case? I don't like to use Docker, was trying INHERIT += "uninative", but unsuccessfully - the uninative was denied by the bitbake due to the host libc version is newer. So I try to use buildtools-install script not to depoend on host gcc, but failed because my "file" version is 5.46 and it gives me the "buffer overflow" while unpacking the SDK06:58
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RPDvorkin: you could use a newer version of uninative, those should be safe07:18
RPDvorkin: with things like unzip, there are often libraries we need which complicate things, it may not just be the unzip binary07:18
DvorkinRP, you mean I just can update the yocto-uninative.inc file to use newer version of uninative tarball?07:20
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JaMaUsing some container is the easiest option, you could also upgrade to newer LTS scarthgap where all necessary compatiblity changes are already applied07:28
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DvorkinJaMa, thanks!07:31
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Dvorkinanother question: If I use shared sstate dir on my build host, sharing the directory name with several Scarthgap instances of different yocto trees and different projects (but with the same uninative and OE branch) - will it help to speedup the builds and optimize the FS usage?07:33
JaMayes, just make sure to share the hashserv instance as well07:34
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DvorkinJaMa, otherwise shared sstate dir will not be effective at all or partly?07:38
JaMapartly07:40
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JaMathe build using hashserv will be able to avoid building a lot of stuff which hashserv found unnecessary (because the output would be identical), but other builds won't know about it and will do the builds (and then store the sstate in the shared sstate-cache directory wasting the disk space as well)07:41
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DvorkinJaMa, should I setup new hashserv instance for every OE branch separately?07:43
JaMaYou can use the same sstate directory as hashserv across multiple releases, I use the same hashserv (for kirkstone and all newer releases), but separate sstate (as it doesn't share that much between releases and it's easier to clean it)07:45
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aduskettok. I relent09:17
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aduskettI made a patch for DNF and GCC1209:17
aduskettI need to test09:17
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RPaduskett: sounds good, thanks!10:19
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aduskettodd11:48
aduskett`No match for argument: busybox-mdev`11:48
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aduskettbut I am not installing busybox-mdev lol11:48
aduskettoh, I am11:48
aduskettIt was changed to mdev-busybox ?11:49
RPmeta/recipes-core/busybox/busybox_1.38.0.bb:           ${@["", "file://mdev.cfg"][(d.getVar('VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_dev_manager') == 'busybox-mdev')]}11:50
RPonly enabled in some cases11:50
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aduskettthat will show me for not building this stuff in months11:51
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aduskettRP, the documentation needs to be updated no? Debian 11 is fully EOL at this point12:16
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RPaduskett: no, we still have debian11 test systems: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/workers12:59
RPit isn't fully EOL yet12:59
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aduskettRP, why? Debian 11 is EOL as of 31 August 202613:37
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adusketthttps://www.debian.org/News/2026/2026083113:37
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rburtonno longer getting security updates by the core team is an argument for dropping it14:04
RPAh, we did go past the 31st now so yes, it is probably time14:04
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aduskettyeah, I can't even stand up a docker container to test against14:09
aduskettD12 works fine with DNF5 though14:09
aduskettwell, it compiled. I am waiting for the build to finish before pushing the patches14:10
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RPwe'll discuss the plan for debain1114:13
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aduskettv10 for dnf5 sent14:28
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rburtonRP: added to the tsc agenda for monday14:38
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RPrburton: it is more needing to talk to michael15:27
RPhe's out atm so not pinging15:27
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JaMarburton: did you measure build time impact of changing -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE from https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=ea9b33f7c12f773830ec860ae817a3ed1368612b ? it seems to be significant, I'm doing some benchmarks now, but looks like at least native and nativesdk should be using Release instead of MinSizeRel15:31
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rburtonyeah the time difference wasn't huge at the time15:32
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JaMahttps://github.com/markyang92/meta-pgo shows around 50% some tests from chromium show 100% difference (e.g. https://ibb.co/xK000qMj https://ibb.co/nN2193j2 )15:34
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rburtondoes that include the PGO changes though?15:34
rburtonif we were to do pgo then we need to have the big reproducible-pgo debate15:35
JaMano, just -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE switch back to Release15:35
JaMaI'm now testing chromium-x11 from meta-browser build time15:36
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rburtonalso record the build time of clang/llvm and the size of the sstate15:40
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JaMaok, will do15:48
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DvorkinEnter target directory for SDK (default: /opt/poky/5.0.20): ./xxxE21:54
DvorkinYou are about to install the SDK to "/disk2/rrr/xxxE". Proceed [Y/n]?21:54
DvorkinExtracting SDK.....................done21:54
DvorkinSetting it up...*** buffer overflow detected ***: terminated21:54
Dvorkin- with Scarthgap + host file-5.46. Any recommendations?21:54
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