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nick29Hi Everyone !! Could any expert please help me out. I am writing a new recipe which essentially just keeps the places the pre-built binaries in certain locations. The original package was released under GPLv2 but i am no longer using any source code in my new recipe.04:28
nick29under these conditions, should i keep LICENSE="closed" or "gplv2" ?04:28
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kanavinnick29, you need to consult your legal and compliance department, not the armchain internet experts05:03
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LetoThe2ndtrying to play with cve-check: WARNING: cve-update-db-native-1.0-r0 do_fetch: Cannot parse CVE data (_ssl.c:990: The handshake operation timed out), update failed10:25
LetoThe2ndWARNING: cve-update-db-native-1.0-r0 do_fetch: CVE database update failed10:25
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: nvd is arse, set NVD_DB_VERSION = "FKIE"10:29
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LetoThe2ndrburton: care to give a short explanation or pointer to?10:31
rburtonthe NVD servers are terrible and fall over. there's a mirror that FKIE run, set that in local.conf and it will fetch faster.10:32
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LetoThe2ndrburton: different, but also falls over: https://pastebin.com/sdxJ0Gr310:37
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RPzeddii: perf is doing something a bit stupid. It has a set of internal headers (e.g. xyarray.h) which it copies to both libperf/include/internal and tools/lib/perf/include/internal. Our debug sources sometimes finds one set of files and sometimes the other depending on build ordering11:03
RPzeddii: do you happen to know which sized hammer we need to hit it with and where?11:03
rburtonkanavin: https://peps.python.org/pep-0739/ looks interesting11:07
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RPzeddii: patch on the list for evaluation11:38
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rburtonkhem: good news: managed to get clang-extra-tools to build alongside clang after the llvm split. rebasing now hope to have on the list this week. need to seed my ccache with the new release first...11:45
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rburtonRP: fun question: do we drop debian-11 support from master? it's oldoldstable now, long-term support by community only until august 2026. i'd suggest we drop -11 and add -13 instead (halstead added one of those to the cluster, right?)13:03
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RPrburton: no debian13 on https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/workers yet13:05
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RPrburton: I think we need to keep some debian11 around until next year13:05
RPrburton: esp considering our older LTS for example13:05
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RPrburton: April and end of kirkstone might make a reasonable point to drop?13:06
rburtonyeah i just mean the supported releases for master13:06
RPoh, for master, sure13:06
rburton(subtext: there's a clang hack which is debian-11 specific which reminded me)13:06
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LetoThe2ndif I am in a bitbake initialized shell and want to programmatically inspect built artifacts, what's the best way to find out what has been built?13:08
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RPLetoThe2nd: ls `bitbake-getvar DEPLOY_DIR` ? :)13:09
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LetoThe2ndRP: ah that also works without passing a recipe name. actually not too bad a start13:10
RPLetoThe2nd: you might want DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE depending on what you mean by "built" and yes, it doesn't have to take a recipe name13:11
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LetoThe2ndRP: essentially, I'm hunting for manifest, cve/json and sbom13:12
RPso DEPLOY_DIR may be fine13:13
LetoThe2ndyeah exactly13:13
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RPkanavin, rburton: Since you both like removing code, OE_TMPDIR and that runqemu patch might be an interesting thread to pull on ;-)13:35
RPI knew there was more to that code :/13:35
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jmdAfter I add a new .bb file, what must I do to make the system aware of it?14:33
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rburtonjmd: nothing, assuming its in a layer and path that bitbake already knows about14:38
jmdWhat layers/paths does it already know about?14:39
rburtonyou tell me, it's your setup.  bblayers.conf defines the layer locations.14:40
jmdSo far as I can tell the only file with such a name is a boilerplate from poky14:42
rburtonin your build directory there's a conf/bblayer.conf14:42
rburtonbblayers.conf even14:42
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jmdthere is a conf/layer.conf file14:43
rburtonthat's not the build directory, that's your layer14:43
jmdI see.  But hacking files in the build directory isn't going to help, I don't think.14:45
rburton?14:45
rburtonbblayers.conf is literally the file that defines what layers your build is using14:45
rburtonall i'm saying is your new bb file needs to be in a layer that is listed in there14:45
jmdSo how do I arrange for them to be listed there?14:46
rburtonwith a text editor, or bitbake-layers.  did you create a new layer for this new bb file?14:47
rburtonor did you put it in a layer that you're already using14:47
jmdBut its a generated file.  If I edit it, it'l get overwritten next time I run bitbake won't it?14:47
rburtonits not generated14:47
jmdWell I didn't put it there!!14:48
rburtonoe-init-build-env generated it from the templates when it first created an empty build tree. after that its your file to own.14:48
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* jmd is confused. <rburton> its not generated ... <rburton> oe-init-build-env generated it 14:51
jmdAt any rate, the build directory is out of source, so I cannot check it in.14:52
jmd... and the next person who builds might well choose a different work dir location.14:53
rburtonthis is a mad tangent. when you made a new recipe, did you put it in a layer you are already using, or create a new layer?14:53
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jmdI think it's a new layer, but I'm not sure.14:54
jmdThe word "layer" seems to be overloaded several times in Yocto/OpenEmbedded parlance.14:55
rburtonshouldn't be. its a directory, usually called meta-something, with a file called conf/layer.conf in and class/recipe files14:55
rburton"bitbake-layers add-layer path/to/the/layer" if you're not sure if you've made a new layer or not14:56
jmdSo why are some files in directory called meta-* others in layers/ and yet others in recipes-* ?15:00
rburtonmeta-* are layers, recipes-* are just folders inside the layer to organise15:00
* LetoThe2nd points to https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD4M5FoHz-TxMfBFrDKfIS_GLY25Qsfyj for some slightly dated, but hopefully helpful content on layers, recipes, and so on.15:03
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kanavinRP: yes, I was just reading your response. I feel slightly sorry for the submitter as a simple usability tweak they wanted to contribute unraveled into a rabbit hole :-/ I'll see if I can drop those OE_TMPDIR codepaths15:35
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mathieudbkanavin: do you have your ovmf update patch in some public git by any chance? I fail to apply it easily here, probably because of strange line breaks in ovmf source code15:38
kanavinmathieudb, poky-contrib/akanavin/package-verison-updates15:38
kanavinovmf is a total pita indeed15:38
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mathieudbkanavin: thanks15:42
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RPkanavin: I do feel a bit bad about that too, hence why I mentioned to you/ross :/15:48
kanavinRP: to be brutally honest, runqemu needs to be thrown away and rewritten. If only I had the time...15:48
kanavin(and oeqa while we're at it)15:48
RPkanavin: it has been once already!15:49
RPkanavin: for better or worse, runqemu does make much of our automated testing work15:49
kanavinI know, it's just so brittle15:49
RPkanavin: I did wonder about merging the patch but it then leaves what are effectively "impossible" code paths15:50
RPI'd feel happier if someone confirmed they really aren't needed15:50
kanavinRP: I'm trying to formulate via email what additional patches we could do to confirm and clean those up15:51
rburtonrunqemu is both brittle and too magic15:51
rburtonwhich were design anti-goals when i wrote runfvp. it does nothing unless told :)15:52
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kanavinokay, email sent15:56
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mischiefwe seem to be OOMing when nodejs and nodejs-native are being built at the same time :-(21:26
mischiefwould do_compile[lockfiles] be a good way to stop them from being built at the same time?21:26
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