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| khem | mischief:yeah this does happen, we just reduce the parallelism and latest bitbake it able to handle pressure settings as well. using lockfiles for such a thing seems inadequate and unintended for this use | 00:22 |
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| mischief | well, we don't want reduced parallelism for everything.. it's really only nodejs that explodes. | 00:29 |
| mischief | we're already running at less than full cores parallelism anyway | 00:30 |
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| khem | just set the parallel make settings for nodejs recipes itself | 00:39 |
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| rburton | mischief: you can also use -l with -j to control load more, or look up the pressure monitoring in the bitbake manual | 07:24 |
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| mcfrisk | is do_kernel_configme painfully slow to anyone else? surely configuring kernel should not take more than 10 minutes on a powerful machine.. | 07:33 |
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| ak77 | hello | 08:47 |
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| ak77 | should i place use different build dir (or just tmp dir?) for different machines? | 08:49 |
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| ak77 | or use all the sme | 08:52 |
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| rburton | ak77: same works, anything machine-specific is in different directories anyway | 09:00 |
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| walter | quick question, what's that `package-management` in IMAGE_FEATURES of core-image-sato? | 10:29 |
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| rburton | walter: eanbles on-target package management. with it enabled you have feeds and eg opkg or dnf installed. disable it and the package management state and tools are removed. | 10:35 |
| rburton | see https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/features.html | 10:36 |
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| walter | Nice, thanks. And can that be used with bitbake to buid a single package (+deps) and then manually install packages without having to flash the full rootfs? | 10:42 |
| yocton | walter: correct :) | 10:44 |
| walter | I've been monkeying around a lot, and having to flash a full system every time started to bother me. | 10:48 |
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| rburton | my local.conf has: | 10:51 |
| rburton | PACKAGE_FEED_URIS = "http://192.168.7.1:8000/" | 10:51 |
| rburton | EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES:append = " package-management" | 10:51 |
| rburton | when i want to put packages on the target i 'bitbake package-index' and then spin up a python -mhttp.server on the tmp/deploy directory | 10:51 |
| rburton | then opkg update; opkg install foobar | 10:52 |
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| walter | oooooo, cool, thanks! | 10:54 |
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| walter | I don't have an RTC battery, yet. So, I've been manually running `ntpd -gq 0.pool.ntp.org`. Is there a better way? And searching doesn't really help here, I only get outdated info or bs. | 11:34 |
| walter | Also, I've been thinking of using the current date, or the date of the last commit as a decent starting point, but I'm not sure if I should go that route or how to even implement it. | 11:35 |
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| walter | I'm curious, can I just override a `WKS_FILE` and copy the original file? Will all those variables (`RK_UBOOT_ENV`, `UBOOT_SUFFIX`, etc...) still be exist, as in the original file? | 11:56 |
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| rburton | walter: systemd can do ntp date if you're using that, or ntpd comes with init scripts that should be doing that automatically | 11:59 |
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| rburton | ah ntpd includes sntp but that is configured to use a dummy ntp server out of the box, as you need an agreement to use the pool and we've not done that yet | 12:00 |
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| walter | Oh, "an agreement to use the pool"? Is this because of the potential to DDOS them if a build gets deployed a bajilion times? | 12:07 |
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| rburton | pretty much https://www.ntppool.org/en/vendors.html | 12:09 |
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| walter | I'm thinking that to override the `NTPSERVER` variable I just need a file in the same place as the original one and it will be overriden, right? | 12:17 |
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| mischief | mcfrisk: do you have many branches/tags? | 13:00 |
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| mcfrisk | mischief: nope, building genericarm64. need to add more verbose logging. could be something in upstream kernel.org scripts/kconfig/merge_config.sh which is painfully slow | 13:05 |
| jsolano_ | hi all, I am learning yocto using the bootlin training slides for a beagleplay board. I am stuck at this error when compling linux-ti-staging, it seems the dt-bindings path is unknown, any ideas how to fix this kind of issues? | 13:05 |
| jsolano_ | fatal error: dt-bindings/gpio/gpio.h: No such file or directory | 13:05 |
| jsolano_ | #include <dt-bindings/gpio/gpio.h> | 13:06 |
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| mcfrisk | mischief: actually, linux-yocto does have a lot of tags and branch, and kmeta too. but the delay seems to happen in scc or merge_config.sh | 13:07 |
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| walter | jsolano_: on what branches are you? I've had problems running on master branches. So, I've switched to walnascar. | 13:09 |
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| jsolano_ | walter: I am on scarthgap | 13:10 |
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| mischief | mcfrisk: ah, for us its slow because the kernel classes seem to enumerate every branch... | 13:17 |
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| mcfrisk | that doesn't sound right either | 13:18 |
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| mischief | maybe i was thinking of do_kernel_checkout | 13:25 |
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| walter | jsolano_: try walnascar. I've also had problems on the LTS. (btw, I'm also learning things now, but I've been at this for quite a few weeks now) | 13:35 |
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| wmills_ | I am getting a lot of spam from yocto bugzilla. Is this a known issue? | 13:39 |
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| Crofton | We are going to try a discourse thing for communicating with people https://discussion.openembedded.org/ if you want to give it a try | 13:54 |
| Crofton | 4:32 PM | 13:54 |
| Crofton | I have no idea where this will go :) but it is clear we need to try new things. At some point, we will spam the socials and try and see if we get engagement from the people not on mailng lists and irc. But I want to work on building a user base of knowledgeable people first! | 13:54 |
| Crofton | wmills_: spammers are ruining email :( | 13:54 |
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| jsolano_ | walter: thanks, I will see how it goes with walnascar | 13:56 |
| * mcfrisk doesn't see much spam, checks Spam folder oh there is a bit | 13:56 | |
| mcfrisk | statistical text generators are ruining electronic communication | 13:58 |
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| rburton | RP khem: clang split patches sent! 🤞🤞🤞 | 14:31 |
| rburton | up to the last two are just more cleanups | 14:31 |
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| rburton | walter: i take it back: if you use chrony from meta-oe then it automatically uses openembedded.pool.ntp.org (and syncs on boot) | 14:36 |
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| RP | rburton: nice! | 15:10 |
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| dvergatal | hi ppl, i have a question regarding qemu and simulation of an image for i.MX8MP, should use the upstream qemu,u-boot,atf,optee or the one provided by imx? | 15:35 |
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| dvergatal | i've seen that JPEW made the whole configuration for qemuarm64-secureboot which uses this atf+optee but does the imx versions can emulate specific processors/SoC? | 15:40 |
| jmd | I need to remove the getty from tty1. How should I go about doing that? | 15:41 |
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| rburton | jmd: edit inittab | 15:48 |
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| jmd | I thought inittab dissappeared in the 1990s | 15:50 |
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| vmeson | FYI: If you occasionally want to look at large pybootchartgui.py output, generate a pdf: -f pdf -o file.pdf and use qpdfview -- scales well for large builds and you can search by task name. | 16:04 |
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| rburton | vmeson: oh thats useful, i use svg and grumble every time that my browser won't search for text in a svg | 16:12 |
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| vmeson | rburton: I've been doing that for years as well. I still think that it would be nice ot have a google maps type of web interface to the data with a pane for the perf info and another for the dependency graph | 16:14 |
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| rburton | i was trying to convert the buildperf data to perfetto format but perfetto doesn't like showing logs like the current chart. if the buildstats included the runner number then we could have a different chart showing usage. | 16:16 |
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| RP | rburton: you must be able to postprocess it into that worst case | 16:41 |
| RP | there is no such thing as a "runner number" | 16:41 |
| rburton | yeah and there should be :) | 16:42 |
| RP | rburton: there is no need for it | 16:42 |
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| rburton | there is if you want to show a graph of each of the "bitbake workers" over time, so 16 rows if BB_NUMBER_THREADS=16 | 16:42 |
| RP | rburton: then just process the data ;-) | 16:43 |
| rburton | (i know that's now how its actually implemented) | 16:43 |
| RP | the code simply says "is <number running> less than <number we can run>?" and doesn't worry about giving them IDs as it is meaningless | 16:44 |
| rburton | yeah | 16:44 |
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| mcfrisk | dvergatal: check meta-arm and qemuarm64-secureboot. same bits can quite easily be extended to e.g. genericarm64, which atm doesn't work on imx8mp but I plan to submit the kernel changes soon(tm). | 16:59 |
| mcfrisk | dvergatal: so u-boot with tf-a, optee etc needs to be for qemu, and different build for imx8mp but the OS can be the same | 17:00 |
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| khem | zeddii:have your changes to fix vbox made into master yet ? I am still seeing this failure so I wonder if there is a potential patch you were talking out | 17:45 |
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| dvergatal | mcfrisk: ok so stick to qemuarm64-secureboot? | 18:14 |
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| dvergatal | mcfrisk: i read that qemu 10 has support for imx8mp-evk, do you anything about this? | 18:15 |
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| walter | rburton: thanks! | 18:48 |
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| walter | I've added a new partition and the fstab entry is `/dev/sda9`, instead of `/dev/mmcblock0p9`. And I cant figure out what I'm missing, this is the wks entry: `part /data --label data --active --fixed-size 512M --fstype=ext4 --part-name data` | 18:51 |
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| walter | `--use-uuid` seems to have solved that problem, now the directory is missing. how does one create one inside a wks file? Or should I create it in the machine conf that includes that wks file? | 19:17 |
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| walter | I think this mount point creation should be handled automatically somehow, any suggestions on what I could do and document? | 20:16 |
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