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| Guest82 | Good morning everyone, is anyone familiar with npm packages and can tell me what's new in walnascar that it don't copy node_modules from UNPACKDIR to S. Till scarthgap it did function. I appreciate the assistance | 05:50 |
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| frosteyes | Hi folks. Hope you are great. A question - how would you include git describe in your rootfs, where it build the rootfs if the git describe has changed - even though it is something like a readme or similar?? | 08:29 |
| frosteyes | I was out in creating a variale like | 08:29 |
| frosteyes | MANIFEST_VERSION := "${@oe.buildcfg.get_metadata_git_describe(d.getVar('MANIFEST_ROOT'))}" | 08:29 |
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| frosteyes | Next a task and add the variable with vardeps, and add this task before rootfs | 08:30 |
| frosteyes | do_git_describe[vardeps] += "MANIFEST_VERSION" | 08:30 |
| frosteyes | addtask do_git_describe before do_rootfs | 08:30 |
| frosteyes | And nostamp on the task.. And expect the signature to be identical, and that hash equivalence will see that the rest don't need to run | 08:31 |
| frosteyes | But it does not work as I expected - e.g. rootfs is done each time, so I am overlooking something. | 08:33 |
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| RP | frosteyes: you probably need to use something like MANIFEST_VERSION[vardepvalue] = "MANIFEST_VERSION" | 09:05 |
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| Guest76 | hi guys. Did someone use barebox in yocto kirkstone? i need help ti include this | 09:09 |
| frosteyes | thanks @RP | 09:09 |
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| frosteyes | Arhh. The nostamp... Any task that depends (possibly indirectly) on a [nostamp] task will always be executed as well. This can cause unnecessary rebuilding if you are not careful. | 09:21 |
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| RP | frosteyes: you probably need to remove that and make the recipe reparse each build run | 09:30 |
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| frosteyes | @RP I was comming to the same conclusion.. I will properly extend the os-release with a MANIFEST_VERSION field, and than parse on each build.. | 09:37 |
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| rburton | mathieudb: my lord i hate the llvm build | 09:45 |
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| mathieudb | rburton: yeah :( | 10:04 |
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| rburton | hm i wonder why some of the diffoscope output has objdump and some doesn't | 10:08 |
| rburton | https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20250914-yhzvpnom/packages/diff-html/ has readelf output, but https://valkyrie.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20250914-qe46no4m/packages/diff-html/ does not | 10:08 |
| Guest82 | Is anyone familiar with npm packages and can tell me what's new in walnascar that it don't copy node_modules from UNPACKDIR to S? | 10:09 |
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| rburton | mathieudb: throwing a very large lever in cmake.bbclass and running the reprod tests locally for the entire clang suite, wish me luck :) | 10:38 |
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| rburton | mathieudb: can you pull https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/poky/message/13729 into your testing branch please so we don't forget (cc mcfrisk) | 11:10 |
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| mathieudb | rburton: ok, I got it for my next build | 11:42 |
| mathieudb | (but next build well be launched this evening, once ab maintenance is done) | 11:43 |
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| RP | rburton: I have it in master-next too. I'm not happy about it and posted on the list about why | 12:12 |
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| rburton | working around firmware fails isn't ideal but firmware is firmware... | 12:20 |
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| rburton | ok first cmake-based sledgehammer removed all reproduciblity fails apart from some in clang | 12:26 |
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| Jones42 | are the weekly yocto project meetings more of an "internal" thing, or is it okay if people join just for lurking? | 13:31 |
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| rburton | anyone can join | 13:31 |
| Jones42 | nice, thanks. :-) | 13:31 |
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| rburton | Jones42: https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/get-involved/#virtual-meetings <-- it's under "Get Involved" :) | 13:31 |
| Jones42 | I'm just curious. Not sure how deep I want to get involved though ;-) | 13:32 |
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| rburton | mathieudb: 2025-09-15 15:16:14,275 - oe-selftest - INFO - RESULTS - reproducible.ReproducibleTests.test_reproducible_builds: PASSED (4222.58s) | 14:32 |
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| mathieudb | rburton: wow, great! | 14:34 |
| mathieudb | rburton: you want to make some test on the autobuilder? | 14:34 |
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| rburton | AdrianF: curious if you think https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-core/20250915145134.192581-1-ross.burton@arm.com/T/#u would break your developer flow or not | 14:52 |
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| jmd | How should one know which of the many recipes-* directorys to add new recipes? | 16:24 |
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| jmd | I can't see any pattern to the existing ones. | 16:24 |
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| rburton | jmd: its up to you, if its your layer | 16:26 |
| rburton | if its not your layer then whatever feels best | 16:27 |
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| jmd | So poky has a recipe called udev-extraconf_1.1.bb How do I import i into my layer? If I simply copy it, then I'll not benefit from upgrades to poky. What's the correct way to do it? | 16:35 |
| zeddii | the first question is .. why would you import it to your layer ? | 16:37 |
| jmd | Because I wish to benefit from what it provides. | 16:37 |
| zeddii | you don't import it to do that. you just use the layer that it is in. | 16:38 |
| rburton | its in oe-core, so you have it by definition | 16:38 |
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| jmd | ok. So how do I "use" it? | 16:38 |
| rburton | as poky is just bitbake+oe-core glued into a single repository | 16:38 |
| rburton | jmd: add it to your image. docs.yoctoproject.org has a good quick-start | 16:39 |
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| jmd | d.y.o is massive. | 16:41 |
| rburton | start with https://docs.yoctoproject.org/brief-yoctoprojectqs/index.html | 16:42 |
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| jmd | Is adding a recipe the same as adding a package? or are they different concepts? | 16:46 |
| zeddii | different. a recipe can produce multiple packages | 16:47 |
| rburton | jmd: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/overview-manual/concepts.html#openembedded-build-system-concepts | 16:53 |
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| jmd | Well I see a lot of text on d.y.o on how to add packages, how to add layers, how to write new recipes, but nothing on how to use existing recipes from other layers. | 16:58 |
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| rburton | jmd: add the layer to your build. udev-extraconf is in meta/, so is already in the build | 17:01 |
| rburton | the bit in the docs for "adding a new layer" is https://docs.yoctoproject.org/brief-yoctoprojectqs/index.html#customizing-your-build-for-specific-hardware | 17:01 |
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| jmd | But I'm not adding a new layer. I'm just adding a recipe to an existing layer (or trying to work out how to). | 17:16 |
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| khem | mathieudb: I have sent a v2 for apt/libc++ fix, please drop the one you are carrying in your staging branch and use the v2 | 18:12 |
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| skandigraun | halstead: Last Thursday I sent an email requesting access to meta-oe git repos - could you please take a look at it? | 18:35 |
| halstead | skandigraun: I'll look for it. I processed a few meta-oe requests. | 18:35 |
| skandigraun | Thank you | 18:36 |
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| rburton | khem: v3 of the clang series sent, rebased onto master | 19:11 |
| rburton | jmd: then just put a file into the layer in any recipes-* folder, or make your own recipes-something folder | 19:11 |
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| khem | rburton: here is first problem - https://termbin.com/679h | 20:39 |
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| rburton | JPEW: ^^ how can that happen? | 21:00 |
| rburton | i didn't touch anything relevant, and it works here | 21:01 |
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| JPEW | hmm | 21:02 |
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| rburton | kanavin: looked at which's autofoo. what. the. hell. | 21:04 |
| JPEW | rburton: Autotools sucks, let me make my own thing that is somehow worse? | 21:05 |
| rburton | JPEW: configure.ac includes a file in a git submodule that has boilerplate, so autoconf and friends refuse to touch the actual configure.ac | 21:06 |
| rburton | you know you're having fun when you bootstrap script has to do export SED="$(pwd)/cwm4/scripts/SED.sh" export M4="$(pwd)/cwm4/scripts/M4.sh" | 21:06 |
| rburton | i would be so tempted to write a ten line meson.build in principle | 21:07 |
| JPEW | rburton: I like meson, I just wish it was 10 years from now when it was stable and ubiquitous | 21:08 |
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| rburton | oh and the NIH autoreconf is 500 lines of sh | 21:10 |
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| RP | rburton: please do. This sounds crazy :/ | 22:26 |
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| mischief | huh. in scarthgap i noticed our filesystem images blew up in size. i eventually discovered that it seems linker section alignment changed, so setting -Wl,-z,max-page-size=4096 seems to restore binary size to what we had before. | 23:16 |
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