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| kanavin | rburton, yes, it's almost tempting to write a meson overlay | 07:59 |
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| kanavin | rburton, you saw my rant in the commit message? I didn't join the patch review, I was riding a bike rather :D | 08:00 |
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| rburton | kanavin: honestly i'd be okay with removing which entirely | 08:04 |
| kanavin | rburton, wouldn't that break everything? | 08:05 |
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| kanavin | RP, rburton none of the unassigned maintainers have reacted with either yes or no (other than Tom Rini who requested the removal himself) | 08:12 |
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| RP | kanavin: I was going to give it a few more days then merge | 08:50 |
| RP | kanavin: I do have a question/thought experiment which is bothering me a bit. Imagine we start a master-next build with bitbake-setup. It creates an overrides file with the revision/branch information. Only half the workers needed are available so half the builds start | 08:51 |
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| RP | kanavin: meanwhile, I force push a new master-next. For the later build, I suspect the fetcher will see the revision requested and work ok since it shouldn't update. | 08:52 |
| RP | kanavin: Now think about what happens if I schedule a build of the new master-next in parallel and for some reasons some jobs start earlier than the original build (say due to specific worker availability). I think at that point the fetcher will update the DL_DIR and things may well break :( | 08:53 |
| kanavin | RP: ' It creates an overrides file with the revision/branch information.' - would this refer to 'master-next' or a specific revision at that point in time? | 08:55 |
| RP | kanavin: it would have to specify both the branch and revision | 08:56 |
| rburton | kanavin: nope, which isn't posix so its very unlikely to be used. its pulled into our sato build purely through util-linux-ptest dependencies. | 08:56 |
| kanavin | RP: why branch? just the revision is ok | 08:57 |
| kanavin | RP: bitbake-setup explicitly passes nobranch=1 to the fetcher | 08:57 |
| RP | kanavin: well, initially buildbot would have a branch, not a revision. That would get translated to a revision in the first part of the build and I guess at that point the branch isn't needed | 08:58 |
| RP | kanavin: I guess the answer to my question is to write that code not to specify the branch beyond that point, or perhaps have bitbake-setup ignore it | 08:58 |
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| RP | kanavin: having the name there is useful rather than just a revision | 08:59 |
| kanavin | RP: bitbake-setup already ignores branches, it only wants a single piece of info, the revision, which can be a branch name, but can be a commit id too. | 08:59 |
| RP | kanavin: ok, good. Thanks, I just want to make sure we don't introduce an old set of autobuilder problems | 09:00 |
| rburton | kanavin: can b-s also validate signed tags for supply chain security? | 09:00 |
| RP | rburton: can we not make it basically work first, please ;-) | 09:01 |
| kanavin | I've already shot down a few pet features https://github.com/kanavin/bitbake/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed | 09:03 |
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| kanavin | rburton, right, then I support dropping it. The maintainer is mad. | 09:05 |
| kanavin | alternatives are in debianutils, or, I guess, busybox? | 09:05 |
| rburton | posix says to use 'command' | 09:08 |
| rburton | and which is a builtin in bash at least | 09:08 |
| rburton | ah yes busybox has a which too | 09:09 |
| kanavin | rburton, on my debian and fedora which is not a bash builtin | 09:09 |
| kanavin | debian has it from debianutils, fedora from gnu | 09:09 |
| rburton | hm i thought it was a builtin too, weird | 09:10 |
| rburton | well our busybox has which enabled | 09:10 |
| kanavin | and we have debianutils in core | 09:10 |
| rburton | tempted to drop the which dependency in util-linux as busybox has it | 09:11 |
| rburton | (and upstream a patch to use command as that's posix) | 09:11 |
| kanavin | but command executes a command, not prints where it is | 09:11 |
| kanavin | ? | 09:11 |
| rburton | $ command -v bash | 09:12 |
| rburton | /usr/bin/bash | 09:12 |
| RP | kanavin: just to be clear, supply chain security is something to be taken seriously so we will probably need to look at that. I'm just saying not right now as there are other pressing issues and that can be sorted later | 09:12 |
| rburton | that is something that siemens care about so kas has good functionality there to be inspired by :) | 09:13 |
| kanavin | watch me do a facepalm when that inevitable question came up https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MbMtEuTPV_0 | 09:15 |
| kanavin | even my mom asked what the question was :D | 09:15 |
| kanavin | I guess in a room full of kas users statistically it's bound to be asked | 09:15 |
| * sudip was there to witness that facepalm | 09:16 | |
| kanavin | depending on who is asking, the tone can be rather passive-aggressive too | 09:16 |
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| rburton | annoyingly, command -v doesn't work for the one command that the util-linux test suite uses it for | 09:41 |
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| rburton | kanavin: hahah just found i have a branch already called 'which' that deletes which from core :) | 10:26 |
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| kanavin | rburton, you branch hoarder :) | 10:27 |
| kanavin | shall we make a tv show out of it? | 10:27 |
| kanavin | I will pick a branch and ask if it sparks joy | 10:27 |
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| rburton | kanavin: fun fact: LTP has a test case for gnu which | 10:49 |
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| frieder | Hi, is devtool somehow able to take include and bbappend files into account when updating a recipe? | 11:48 |
| frieder | So that the changes go to the correct files instead of being all added in the bb file? | 11:49 |
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| frieder | I guess not because devtool only sees the parsed metadata and not the files behind it, right? | 11:50 |
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| frieder | Hm, recipeutils.patch_recipe() claims to support inc files | 11:53 |
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| rburton | frieder: yeah it should mostly do the right thing. i expect complex structures can confuse it | 12:08 |
| frieder | rburton: Ok, thanks. It doesn't in my case but I will try to find out why. | 12:09 |
| rburton | feel free to file a bug | 12:09 |
| frieder | Sure | 12:09 |
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| rburton | am i right in thinking there's a caching variable for AUTOREV somewhere? | 12:49 |
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| jmd` | How can I set a secondary group of a user? USERADD_PARAM:${PN} doesn't seem to like the -G option. | 14:11 |
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| Saur | jmd`: Use GROUPMEMS_PARAM:${PN} | 14:18 |
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| jmd` | Saur: I will try it. Thanks. | 14:22 |
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| jmd` | Hmm. How can I find out which package created a user? | 14:33 |
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| rburton | note to self: don't upgrade openssl in the next cycle. | 15:27 |
| rburton | 3.5 is the latest LTS and we're on that now | 15:27 |
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| lukma | If I may ask - is there a proper fix for following "sudo" error (when executing it in recipe? | 15:27 |
| lukma | "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" | 15:27 |
| lukma | as descibed in: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/topic/error_when_try_to_use_sudo/96733939 | 15:28 |
| lukma | I'm porting old meta layer (to scarthgap) and I've stumbled uppon this issue ... | 15:28 |
| rburton | lukma: don't sudo in a recipe | 15:28 |
| lukma | rburton: Yes, in the "ideal" world ... | 15:29 |
| lukma | Do you have any recommendation? | 15:29 |
| rburton | find an alternative to sudo :) | 15:29 |
| lukma | Basically - in the meta layer there are some work with images done | 15:29 |
| rburton | wic has commands to manipulate disk images via debug2fs/mtools | 15:30 |
| lukma | with e.g. losetup ... | 15:30 |
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| lukma | and I cannot use run0 because of that ... | 15:30 |
| lukma | Moreover some luks partitions are created - which per se require the root privileges... | 15:31 |
| lukma | And - HOSTTOLS are not working when I do pass the HOSTTOOLS += sudo | 15:31 |
| lukma | rburton: Do you have a good alternative for luks partition creation and losetup, so it can be done not in the image creation recipe? | 15:33 |
| rburton | hosttools is only read when you create a build tree, so the answer is to nuke tmp and do the build again | 15:37 |
| rburton | i expect the answer for luks is first-boot stuff but i've never used it, maybe someone else has idea | 15:37 |
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| ukleinek | zeddii: Would you accept https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2f91e9ad/ as a patch (to yocto-kernel-cache/yocto-6.6) or would you consider tracking the file name in these files to be not very helpful and only a source of divergence and so prefer a patch that drops all those filenames? | 15:57 |
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| zeddii | we probably never should have put the name in there, although renames are relatively infrequent. so either a drop or a fix would be ok. | 15:58 |
| ukleinek | zeddii: Thanks for the feedback. Then I'm going for a drop, but my work day is over now, so expect a patch in your inbox tomorrow | 15:59 |
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| rburton | RP: creating a local copy of a data store with d.createCopy() is fast, right? | 16:03 |
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| RP | rburton: very | 16:05 |
| RP | or it is meant to be anyway | 16:05 |
| rburton | want CC but without CCACHE so i'm doing dd = d.createCopy(); dd.delVar("CCACHE"); dd.getVar("CC") | 16:05 |
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| lukma | rburton: Removing the /tmp with HOSTTOOLS += "sudo" doesn't help... | 16:23 |
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| rburton | where did you put that hosttools? in a recipe is far too late, hosttools is global so has to be in layer or distro config | 16:25 |
| lukma | local.conf | 16:28 |
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| rburton | you deleted the tmp in the build tree, not your system's /tmp right | 16:28 |
| lukma | Yes, in the build tree .... :D | 16:29 |
| lukma | even more strange .... | 16:30 |
| lukma | I do have my "Build" console (with setup for build - either with script or kas) | 16:31 |
| lukma | It has the passwd setup for sudo (by env variable passed with BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH_ADDITIONS) | 16:32 |
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| lukma | And running for example: /1.0/temp/run.do_encrypt_rootfs | 16:32 |
| lukma | but I cannot do it when I call 'bitbake foo-image' | 16:32 |
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| rburton | lukma: sure, we nuke various things, sudo is hard to make work in a bitbake task | 16:43 |
| rburton | RP: ok so why would dd.delVar("CCACHE") still return that value if i then did a getVar. have to setVar to "" | 16:44 |
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| lukma | rburton: So what could be recommended instead? For non losetup tasks I can try to use 'run0' | 16:46 |
| lukma | IIRC I could also write a new class to WIC image creation ? (this is in python) | 16:47 |
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| lukma | But I still wonder how to tackle the luks* creation/mount in OE/Yocto ... | 16:47 |
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| RP | rburton: good question, that is supposed to work. I assume this is a dd.getVar and not on the original datastore? | 16:49 |
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| rburton | yes | 16:54 |
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| rburton | def oecmake_compiler(var, d): | 16:54 |
| rburton | dd = d.createCopy() | 16:54 |
| rburton | dd.setVar("CCACHE", "") | 16:54 |
| rburton | return dd.getVar(var) | 16:54 |
| rburton | does work | 16:54 |
| rburton | but dd.delVar("CCACHE") didn't | 16:54 |
| rburton | i should make a minimal test case to verify | 16:55 |
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| jmd` | Why is it, that after I boot my image, despite having added lots of packages, "opkg list-installed" thinks that nothing is installed? | 16:57 |
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| rburton | jmd`: do you have package-management in your IMAGE_FEATURES? | 17:01 |
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| rburton | if not, then no package database | 17:01 |
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| khem | rburton: are you able to reproduce the task cycle issue with your v3 of llvm patches as I see ? | 17:07 |
| rburton | khem: nope. what is your reproducer? | 17:08 |
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| khem | I threw it into yoe distro, which prefers clang for system compiler, perhaps I should try to transplant changes onto poky local.conf to see which one is causing it | 17:10 |
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| khem | rburton: ok this is the culprit - https://github.com/YoeDistro/yoe-distro/blob/master/sources/meta-yoe/conf/distro/yoe.inc#L130-L135 | 17:22 |
| khem | I guess I need to sync removing this fragment with v3 | 17:22 |
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| eduardootero | Hi Yocto community, hope you are well! | 18:43 |
| eduardootero | I have a question about enabling package manager in the Yocto build. I have added the necessary configuration described in the documentation, however when I navigate into my "../deploy/ipk/.." directory I am failing to generate the package index artifacts "Packages", "Packages.gz" and "Packages.stamps". | 18:43 |
| eduardootero | I can generate them if I manually run command "bitbake package-index". Ideally, I would like these artifacts to be generated during the build process. | 18:43 |
| eduardootero | Any help is very welcome! Thanks, in advance :-) | 18:43 |
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| khem | bitbake package-index is the right way to regenerate the index | 19:01 |
| khem | RP: Can we add qemux86-64-musl-ptest to regular run of a-full ? its been doing well for some weeks now | 19:06 |
| khem | I think qemuarm64-musl-ptest is right there, I have not had time to look into strace ptest failures in detail, from the looks of it, seems strace issue but we need to handle that, after that we can enable it too | 19:07 |
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| eduardootero | khem thanks a lot for the answer. Should not be possible to generate that Package index when the build process takes place? is it necessary to manually having to run that bitbake command? | 19:22 |
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| eduardootero | khem should not the dependency from my image’s do_rootfs to do_package_index is being triggered automatically at building if I inherit core-image and have the right settings? | 19:26 |
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| rburton | eduardootero: patches welcome if you make that work but package-index is a recipe not a task | 19:46 |
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| eduardootero | rburton thanks for the answer. I may be absolutely off here, but I searched a bit the net and found about task "do_package_index", maybe I can trigger that one at build somehow. I am looking into the OPKG package manage for the first time today. | 19:49 |
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| khem | do_package_index is provided by package-index recipe | 23:10 |
| khem | I think you can create a dependency in your image on package-index:do_package_index perhaps that can trigger it | 23:11 |
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| khem | maybe something like build[depends] += "package-index:do_package_index" in image recipe, but it might also need do_build task to be nostamp as well I am not sure | 23:13 |
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