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kanavinrburton, yes, it's almost tempting to write a meson overlay07:59
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kanavinrburton, you saw my rant in the commit message? I didn't join the patch review, I was riding a bike rather :D08:00
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rburtonkanavin: honestly i'd be okay with removing which entirely08:04
kanavinrburton, wouldn't that break everything?08:05
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kanavinRP, rburton none of the unassigned maintainers have reacted with either yes or no (other than Tom Rini who requested the removal himself)08:12
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RPkanavin: I was going to give it a few more days then merge08:50
RPkanavin: I do have a question/thought experiment which is bothering me a bit. Imagine we start a master-next build with bitbake-setup. It creates an overrides file with the revision/branch information. Only half the workers needed are available so half the builds start08:51
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RPkanavin: meanwhile, I force push a new master-next. For the later build, I suspect the fetcher will see the revision requested and work ok since it shouldn't update.08:52
RPkanavin: Now think about what happens if I schedule a build of the new master-next in parallel and for some reasons some jobs start earlier than the original build (say due to specific worker availability). I think at that point the fetcher will update the DL_DIR and things may well break :(08:53
kanavinRP: ' It creates an overrides file with the revision/branch information.' - would this refer to 'master-next' or a specific revision at that point in time?08:55
RPkanavin: it would have to specify both the branch and revision08:56
rburtonkanavin: nope, which isn't posix so its very unlikely to be used. its pulled into our sato build purely through util-linux-ptest dependencies.08:56
kanavinRP: why branch? just the revision is ok08:57
kanavinRP: bitbake-setup explicitly passes nobranch=1 to the fetcher08:57
RPkanavin: well, initially buildbot would have a branch, not a revision. That would get translated to a revision in the first part of the build and I guess at that point the branch isn't needed08:58
RPkanavin: I guess the answer to my question is to write that code not to specify the branch beyond that point, or perhaps have bitbake-setup ignore it08:58
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RPkanavin: having the name there is useful rather than just a revision08:59
kanavinRP: bitbake-setup already ignores branches, it only wants a single piece of info, the revision, which can be a branch name, but can be a commit id too.08:59
RPkanavin: ok, good. Thanks, I just want to make sure we don't introduce an old set of autobuilder problems09:00
rburtonkanavin: can b-s also validate signed tags for supply chain security?09:00
RPrburton: can we not make it basically work first, please ;-)09:01
kanavinI've already shot down a few pet features https://github.com/kanavin/bitbake/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed09:03
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kanavinrburton, right, then I support dropping it. The maintainer is mad.09:05
kanavinalternatives are in debianutils, or, I guess, busybox?09:05
rburtonposix says to use 'command'09:08
rburtonand which is a builtin in bash at least09:08
rburtonah yes busybox has a which too09:09
kanavinrburton, on my debian and fedora which is not a bash builtin09:09
kanavindebian has it from debianutils, fedora from gnu09:09
rburtonhm i thought it was a builtin too, weird09:10
rburtonwell our busybox has which enabled09:10
kanavinand we have debianutils in core09:10
rburtontempted to drop the which dependency in util-linux as busybox has it09:11
rburton(and upstream a patch to use command as that's posix)09:11
kanavinbut command executes a command, not prints where it is09:11
kanavin?09:11
rburton$ command -v bash09:12
rburton/usr/bin/bash09:12
RPkanavin: just to be clear, supply chain security is something to be taken seriously so we will probably need to look at that. I'm just saying not right now as there are other pressing issues and that can be sorted later09:12
rburtonthat is something that siemens care about so kas has good functionality there to be inspired by :)09:13
kanavinwatch me do a facepalm when that inevitable question came up https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MbMtEuTPV_009:15
kanavineven my mom asked what the question was :D09:15
kanavinI guess in a room full of kas users statistically it's bound to be asked09:15
* sudip was there to witness that facepalm09:16
kanavindepending on who is asking, the tone can be rather passive-aggressive too09:16
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