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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: gave it a new try, on a completely fresh ubuntu 24.04 instance, using distributions python3-websockets, and still fails. manually testing one of the offending downloads (http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/pseudo-prebuilt-2.33.tar.xz) with wget from the initialized build shell succeeds. | 08:16 |
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| rob_w | stupid question ,, i build mdns with itself then build mbedtls .. but i cannot find any package in deploy/ipk ?? | 09:06 |
| rob_w | ah nevermind | 09:10 |
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| rburton | khem: annoyingly doesn't happen all the time too | 09:47 |
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| rburton | khem: my hunch is maybe its emitting instructions that qemu-user isn't emulating? | 10:14 |
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| rburton | kanavin_: can bitbake-setup use .cache/bitbake-setup instead of .bitbake-setup please? | 10:26 |
| rburton | Yet More top-level hidden directories make me sad, esp when they're caches so put them in .cache | 10:26 |
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| rburton | why would we want to do a 32-bit multilib build in the qemux86 machines? | 11:06 |
| rburton | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xJd5yFiH/ | 11:06 |
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| jmd | What's a clean way to allow a non-root user to poweroff ? | 12:54 |
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| walter | setuid maybe? | 13:26 |
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| jmd | walter: I did say a "clean" way. | 13:35 |
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| walter | got systemd? :) | 13:39 |
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| jmd | Yes | 13:39 |
| walter | try `systemctl poweroff` | 13:40 |
| walter | but tou might need a PolicyKit entry for normal users. | 13:42 |
| jmd | Yeah, that's what I have tried. I just get "Call to PowerOff failed: Access denied" | 13:44 |
| jmd | I think polkit requires some special DISTRO_FEATURES entry too? | 13:44 |
| walter | you just need a file that matches the action and returns YES. | 13:44 |
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| walter | Add a: /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/99-allow-non-root-poweroff.rules. | 13:45 |
| jmd | No requirement for a polkit.service daemon ? | 13:46 |
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| walter | Oh, you are right, and that's not part of systemd (I think) | 13:48 |
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| walter | I assume that you don't ship sudo, right? | 13:49 |
| jmd | correct | 13:50 |
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| jmd | And /sbin/poweroff is a symlink to /usr/bin/systemctl so setting it suid isn't going to work. | 13:51 |
| walter | got dbus.service? | 13:51 |
| jmd | It would seem that I do. | 13:53 |
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| walter | grep for `org.freedesktop.login1.power-off` in /usr. | 14:00 |
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| walter | I assume that by default you will be denied access, but you should be able to change the permissions, but I don't know if/how a system without PolicyKit works. | 14:01 |
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| rburton | iirc members of special groups get to do those actions without auth | 14:02 |
| jmd | rburton: That was back in the day. These days things aren't so simple. | 14:04 |
| rburton | i mean, polkit can check for group membership | 14:04 |
| jmd | I think that's the bottom line. I'm going to have to rebake with polkit installed. | 14:05 |
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| jmd | (which is a bit of an overkill for my system I think) | 14:05 |
| walter | yes, but the default is `auth_admin_keep`, and admin, I think is root in this case. | 14:05 |
| walter | jmd: try 2-a from here: https://tojaj.com/how-to-turn-off-a-linux-system-without-root-or-sudo/ | 14:05 |
| rburton | you can tell polkit to consider members of a specific group admin, if i'm reading polkit man right | 14:07 |
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| jmd | walter: That just gives permission denied as a non-root user | 14:09 |
| walter | do you get anything in `find /usr -name polkit-1`? | 14:11 |
| walter | I'm thinking that there must be a hardcoded dependency on PolicyKit or something, I don't see how else you could change the permissions without PolicyKit | 14:12 |
| jmd | Yes, the actions are there, but no policies. | 14:12 |
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| jmd | And, like I said there's no polkit service. | 14:13 |
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| walter | actions have defaults, try to put `yes` everywhere and restart the system. | 14:16 |
| walter | * everywhere for "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off" | 14:16 |
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| walter | It's not that "clean". But it might work without the need to add polkit.service to the mix. | 14:18 |
| jmd | I will try it. Thanks. | 14:19 |
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| colin-mcallister | I'm trying to chase down an issue with running a Python module as a native tool on Kirkstone. The tool gets its version using importlib.metadata. It looks like importlib.metadata is provided by python3-core, however importlib.metadata.__init__.py imports zipfile, which appears to be provided by python3-compression. There's no runtime dependency set for python3-compression by python3-core. So occasionally I see an | 14:23 |
| colin-mcallister | "ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'zipfile'" error. Does anyone have any ideas how I could fix this? | 14:23 |
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| kanavin_ | rburton, bitbake-setup is not using .bitbake-setup, can you clarify? | 14:39 |
| rburton | kanavin_: ah maybe that was an old file from ages ago | 14:39 |
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| kanavin_ | most likely | 14:40 |
| kanavin_ | it's using .config/bitbake-setup | 14:40 |
| rburton | for config files i hope :) | 14:40 |
| kanavin_ | yes | 14:40 |
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| kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, I just tried this on yocto autobuilder's ubuntu 24.04, and it does succeed there. It really must be something local, I just haven't had anyone else report this. I need a way to reproduce :-/ | 14:44 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: thats the full history on the box spinning up: https://hastebin.com/share/boqexucaso.bash | 15:01 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: side note, giving it another test spin, I notice poky-master and oe-nodistro being swapped now in places 0 vs 1 | 15:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: even more condensed, including build tools. https://hastebin.com/share/layibuyayu.bash | 15:23 |
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| LetoThe2nd | I mean, this is a totally vanilla ubuntu container, with literally nothing installed on it other than what the YP documentation says. no users. no servers. no proxy, no filter, no nothing. for example fetching https://github.com/westes/flex/releases/download/v2.6.4/flex-2.6.4.tar.gz fails in bitbake, and happily works with the build tools wget. don't know how I can cut it down further. | 15:26 |
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| mathieudb | any libtool expert around, that might help me to understand why libtool behaviour is different between my local computer and the autobuilder? | 15:35 |
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| mathieudb | to make it short, I am testing a patch that runs 'libtool --mode=install install' on a wrapper shell script previously generated by libtool | 15:35 |
| mathieudb | on my computer the output is a binary, while on the autobuilder it copies the script. Same commit of poky, almost same config, so I don't get why the behaviour is different | 15:35 |
| mathieudb | and of course the shell script contains the build path, so package QA complains... | 15:36 |
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| rburton | that _should_ be the right thing | 15:43 |
| rburton | mathieudb: libtool or ${B}/libtool? | 15:43 |
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| rburton | iirc you need the latter | 15:44 |
| rburton | (libtool is terrible etc) | 15:44 |
| mathieudb | rburton: just libtool, I will check if it makes any difference | 15:48 |
| rburton | the binary in the build tree gets rewritten so it might be different | 15:48 |
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| mathieudb | rburton: it seems to work better with {B}/libtool. Thanks! | 17:00 |
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| rburton | cool | 17:02 |
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| kanavin_ | LetoThe2nd, thanks, I'll take a look tomorrow. choices being swapped is probably just missing a sort after listing the configuration files. | 18:49 |
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| walter | So, I'm looking at the wiki, more precicely at BitBake/GUI and BitBake/GUI/Future. I wanna learn stuff, so I'm thinking I could combine what I know with something new... what would be the most important GUI tool that one might need for Yocto development? For me, a large dot file viewer that doesn't take forever comes to mind, but I'm fairly new to Yocto, so I'm not sure that's where I could help the most. | 19:04 |
| walter | I have experience with GioUI, it's an immediate mode (think games, not browsers) GUI framework, cross platform and it's quite nice to work it. | 19:05 |
| walter | and because it's immediate mode, you can easily structure your application such that you can have huge canvases, like for a huge dot file viewer. | 19:06 |
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| walter | What's this line about in the Weekly Status notes? `This change will mean “poky” as a combo-layer repository will no longer be needed or updated`? Is there a different way to source oe-init-build-env? Or? | 19:48 |
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| yocton | walter: the wiki might not be the most up-to-date on current developpement goals. Speaking for myself here but I never needed a *large* graph viewer (even the full taskgraph of reasonnable images). I found the SVG render quite easy to look at in Inkscape. | 20:53 |
| yocton | walter: you might want to look at https://dashboard.yoctoproject.org/bugtriage/#newcomer-container for bugs tagged "Newcomer". Those bugs are a good way to learn how to contribute to the project. | 20:56 |
| yocton | walter: the "poky" repo is the result of the merge of 4 repos (oe-core, bitbake, doc, meta-yocto). Without this merged repo, oe-init-build-env will be found in its original repo: oe-core : https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/oe-init-build-env | 20:59 |
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| khem | rburton: yeah I tried to narrow it down, but the code where it causes SIGILL seemed valid and I thought its something in qemu yes | 21:17 |
| walter | thanks | 21:19 |
| AdrianF | walter: There are some plans for deprecating the poky repository in favor of bitbake-setup. It's a tool which can fetch layers and setup your build configuration in a more flexible way than the static poky repo does it. | 21:20 |
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| AdrianF | walter: you might want to join the weekly engineering sync meeting where also topics like bitbake-setup are usually discussed: https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/get-involved/#virtual-meetings | 21:23 |
| walter | Will try and join tomorrow. Thanks. | 21:27 |
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