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| jmd | Bitbake consistently gives me this error: "opkg_solver_install: No candidates to install montserrat-fonts" | 08:26 |
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| jmd | But I have most definitely got a recipe providing monserrat-fonts, and it has even been built. Why do I now get it complaining? | 08:27 |
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| rburton | did it build a package though | 08:29 |
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| jmd | Yes. | 08:30 |
| rburton | "oe-pkgdata-util list-pkgs -p monserrat-fonts" | 08:30 |
| jmd | ERROR: No packages found | 08:31 |
| rburton | so it didn't produce any packages | 08:32 |
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| rburton | your do_install probably didn't work | 08:32 |
| rburton | (assuming that is the name of the recipe) | 08:32 |
| jmd | Yet the recipe runs without failure | 08:32 |
| rburton | sure, you can install nothing successfully, or install into the wrong directory. | 08:32 |
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| thomas_34 | Hi guys, a short question: I have to deal with a project repo which is using git submodules (which is also causing some troubles of missing submodules). I found this outdated info (https://amboar.github.io/notes/2019/08/30/bitbake-and-git-submodules.html) which compares gitsm and srcrev solutions. Is srcrev-solution still the way to go? | 09:27 |
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| kanavin | thomas25, which version of yocto are you using? | 09:55 |
| kanavin | generally, gitsm works pretty well nowadays | 09:55 |
| jmd | The world needs a few more mental asylumns to deal with all the people who've triven themselves crazy trying to understand how yocto works. | 09:55 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, the command sequences do not include installation and entering the container, I need that too. | 10:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin_: the container isn’t entered manually, it’s a proxmox instance. And the issue originally occurred on a non container host. | 10:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | I can also try in a VM if you think that helps, but I really don’t expect a change. | 10:02 |
| kanavin | well, I tried it on a non-container host (yocto autobuilder's 22.04), and works for me \-0-/ | 10:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | I tried on a non container host (Ubuntu 22.04) and it didn’t. Everything beyond that test was just trying to help in nailing down the problem… | 10:07 |
| kanavin | can I ssh into it? | 10:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | My guess is that there is some implicit assumption about the build environment being present, which happens to be fulfilled on the auto builder, but not on a vanilla Ubuntu | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | Unfortunately not, because then you’d have company data access. | 10:09 |
| kanavin | well, if you tell me how to set up a vanilla ubuntu container, I can try that | 10:09 |
| kanavin | I never use containers :) | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | docker run -it ubuntu:jammy /bin/bash | 10:12 |
| kanavin | I'm running unminimize on it first, to get something resembling regular ubuntu | 10:18 |
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| RP | kanavin: quick question - if I have a bitbake-setup in a given build directory, which command would I use to reconfigure it to use a different set of fragments ? I guess in the autobuilder context, I'd init with defaults, then reconfig for each build as needed? | 10:19 |
| kanavin | RP: bitbake-config-build has a set of enable/disable/disable-all sub-commands | 10:21 |
| kanavin | RP: alternatively, you can create nested sub-configurations in bitbake-setup config file, each with needed additional fragments. | 10:21 |
| RP | kanavin: is there a place I can just pass in the same things as I'd pass to the init command for an existing build dir? | 10:22 |
| kanavin | RP: I'm not sure, can you give an example? | 10:23 |
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| RP | kanavin: I can run "bitbake-setup --build-dir-name build init poky-master distro/poky machine/qemux86-64" but then say I want to switch that build directory to qemuarm64. What do I run? | 10:25 |
| RP | kanavin: in the autobuilder config I can list the things I want, e.g. "distro/poky machine/qemux86-64" but "add X, remove Y" is going to be hard, I want to be able to say "use this" | 10:26 |
| kanavin | RP: initializing a different build directory with 'init' is not an option? | 10:27 |
| RP | kanavin: no, I don't want to do that | 10:27 |
| kanavin | RP: if not, then you can disable-all-fragments, then enable them again with enable-fragment distro/poky machine/qemuarm64 | 10:28 |
| kanavin | (the command is bitbake-config-build) | 10:29 |
| RP | kanavin: ok, so I init, disable all fragments, then enable fragments for each build step. | 10:30 |
| kanavin | RP: something like that | 10:31 |
| RP | kanavin: I guess we can discuss this later when you see how ugly it looks ;-) | 10:32 |
| kanavin | RP: 'incremental' builds like this are a special case :( | 10:33 |
| RP | kanavin: basically the autobuilder has different steps for "get the source" and "configure this directory" and bitbake-setup isn't making it easy to separate those | 10:33 |
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| kanavin | RP, yes, because of status/update commands, which check both source, and the configuration, there's a tight coupling between them | 10:37 |
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| kanavin | it's probably possible to add flags to 'init' to force a reconfiguration | 10:41 |
| kanavin | e.g. 'leave the source as it is, but force a reconfigure with these options' | 10:41 |
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| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, works for me in the container too :-/ you do need to find a machine that isnt coming from mender. | 10:47 |
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| RP | kanavin: right, I think we probably will need something like that ultimately. I'll try and work around it for now | 10:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: *sigh* they aren't coming from Mender, they're totally owned and run by me. | 10:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | So no, there's definitely no special security or whatever in place. | 10:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: so what's the shell history inside your container so I can cross-check? | 10:49 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, bash history for root isn't recorded, but it's basically unminimize, adduser alex, add alex to sudo group | 10:51 |
| kanavin | then it's same commands as alex user as you published | 10:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: k, and for user Alex? | 10:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | hm. | 10:53 |
| kanavin | ixohonires on hastebin | 10:53 |
| kanavin | hastebin.com/share/ixohonires.bash | 10:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | ok, looking | 10:56 |
| kanavin | it's messy | 10:56 |
| kanavin | I was fumbling around | 10:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah understood the first clone and cleanup, no worries. | 10:57 |
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| Crofton | thomas_34: is Xilinx invovled? | 11:15 |
| thomas_34 | Crofton, no. | 11:16 |
| thomas_34 | TI is involved, but not at that particular recipe. | 11:16 |
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| Crofton | OK, they had some issues with a qemu repo and submodules | 11:16 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, any progress? | 11:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: not yet, on a train with very flaky internet so things take A LOT of time. | 11:18 |
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| Jones42 | Is someone using tools like fasd, z or autojump for quickly changing directories? any advice what works nicely with yocto development? | 11:25 |
| rburton | Jones42: for open recipes in layers or jumping around the build tree in a terminal? | 11:32 |
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| thomas_34 | For jumping around buildtree I use ranger and tmux, and for recipes/layers I use nvim + couple of plugins | 11:44 |
| thomas_34 | Not exactly what you are asking, but I cover it using tmux and having an window on almost every "important" directory | 11:46 |
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| rburton | for recipes/layers i just have all of them open in a vscode workspace so cmd-p <some characters> just opens the right file | 11:47 |
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| Jones42 | rburton: both. I usually have several layers/recipes open and at a few build directories (git, temp) at the same time. | 11:59 |
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| Jones42 | right now, i'm more or less using thomas_34 approach with a lot of tmux panes and vim. i'm not a big fan of plugins, but I think i should change my opinion. | 12:01 |
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| ukleinek | before reinventing the wheel: Is there a way to check if for a given package SRCREV is behind upstream? e.g. I want to notice for SRC_URI = "git://git.yoctoproject.org/linux-yocto-dev.git;branch=${KBRANCH};name=machine;protocol=https and SRCREV_machine = "b730d8dc28f20af856a66b9fdfbdc9b00ccd9fb9" if upstream's KBRANCH is ahead of b730d8dc28f20af856a66b9fdfbdc9b00ccd9fb9 | 12:11 |
| kanavin | ukleinek, devtool latest-version does it, but the recipe needs to be set correctly, e.g. UPSTREAM_CHECK_COMMITS | 12:12 |
| kanavin | or 'devtool check-upgrade-status' | 12:12 |
| rburton | ukleinek: if you're actively developing then you can set SRCREV to ${AUTOREV} and every build it will grab latest HEAD | 12:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | but in that case you might even be better off with EXTERNALSRC | 12:17 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: I've seen your message and it is being thought about. Right now I want to see if I can get the autobuilder working with bitbake-setup, then see where we are. Meanwhile I;m hoping you/Alex can get to the bottom of the issue | 12:23 |
| ukleinek | rburton: in the end I want a CI pipeline to become red if there is an unapplied stable kernel release | 12:24 |
| ukleinek | kanavin: that looks relevant, thanks! | 12:25 |
| rburton | then the right thing to do would be to make devtool work with that recipe | 12:25 |
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| ukleinek | Headsup: `devtool latest-version linux-yocto` and `devtool check-upgrade-status linux-yocto` work. They however find 6.16.8 while I want them to find the latest 6.6.x. | 12:35 |
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| kanavin | ukleinek, for that there's UPSTREAM_CHECK_GITTAGREGEX | 13:03 |
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| ukleinek | kanavin: upstream doesn't tag, I need the latest commit from the yocto-6.6 branch | 13:04 |
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| * ukleinek already set UPSTREAM_CHECK_COMMITS, but now 'default' in `revision = ud.method.latest_revision(ud, rd, 'default')` is wrong | 13:05 | |
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| kanavin | ukleinek, yeah, it might not work perfectly in more tricky cases like this | 13:06 |
| kanavin | for almost all components we either the latest tag in a sorted list, or latest commit on the default branch | 13:07 |
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| ukleinek | kanavin: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/781b2961/ works for me | 13:10 |
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| ukleinek | slightly improved: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/292d8432/ | 13:21 |
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| qschulz | i'd like to benchmark (time to build a recipe) a patch of mine which changes a dependency of a recipe but would like to avoid counting same dependencies in the benchmark | 14:01 |
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| qschulz | is there something like that that exists? | 14:01 |
| jmd | Why is it that when I add DISTRO_FEATURES += "polkit" to my conf file, bitbake starts throwing lots of errors like "one of 'vulkan opengl' needs to be in DISTRO_FEATURES" | 14:01 |
| jmd | I have used += so I'm not overwriting anything. | 14:02 |
| qschulz | jmd: bitbake-getvar DISTRO_FEATURES before and after your change | 14:02 |
| qschulz | I'm betting on DISTRO_FEATURES ?= or ??= after your += | 14:02 |
| qschulz | which overwrites it | 14:02 |
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| jmd | Hmm. So where's the correct place to set it? | 14:03 |
| qschulz | where are you setting it? | 14:03 |
| rburton | jmd: use :append if you're not making your own distro (which you should) | 14:04 |
| jmd | conf/machine/<machine-name>.conf | 14:04 |
| rburton | also don't put distro features in machine conf | 14:04 |
| rburton | the reason is that DISTRO_FEATURES is ?= assigned and += overwrites that | 14:04 |
| jmd | So where do you recommend? | 14:04 |
| rburton | fwiw, bitbake-get DISTRO_FEATURES will tell you exactly what went wrong | 14:05 |
| rburton | ideally you put it in your own distro, or local.conf if you're experimenting | 14:05 |
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| qschulz | jmd: changes to DISTRO_FEATURES belong in a distro conf file, so create your own in your own layer. We highly recommend separating your BSP layer (where your machine conf is) from your distro layer | 14:06 |
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| jmd | Why do some packages need DISTRO_FEATURES anyway? wheras others do not? | 14:07 |
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| qschulz | because they make sense only in some configurations | 14:07 |
| qschulz | e.g. there's little point in having mesa drivers if you don't plan to support anything that requires opengl or vulkan | 14:08 |
| qschulz | which also means you can disable a whole lot of configurations for a package recipe based on the DISTRO_FEATURES | 14:08 |
| qschulz | you don't want opengl in your distro? then bitbake can disable opengl support for any package recipe that would otherwise build it | 14:09 |
| qschulz | makes for smaller packages and images | 14:09 |
| qschulz | some recipes don't care about opengl because they simply aren't interacting with opengl | 14:09 |
| jmd | So it's just a shortcut way of adding a whole raft of packages? | 14:09 |
| qschulz | e.g. why would the bootloader care about this distro feature? | 14:09 |
| qschulz | jmd: no, of configuring package recipes | 14:09 |
| qschulz | package recipes != packages | 14:10 |
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| qschulz | packages are output of package recipes | 14:10 |
| qschulz | it is possible that you get less packages or different packages based on the selected DISTRO_FEATURES but usually I would say not | 14:10 |
| qschulz | their content would be different though | 14:10 |
| qschulz | because you would typically have different options (via the PACKAGECONFIG variable typically) at build time, before the packages are generated for the recipe that has selective support of features based on DISTRO_FEATURES | 14:11 |
| jmd | Anyway now I'm getting a fail building systemd_255.21 : " chown: invalid user: ‘polkitd:root" is there a third thing I have to do? | 14:11 |
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| rburton | eg if you don't use x11 then you can remove the x11 DISTRO_FEATURE and mesa won't build any of the X11 support and neither will dbus, so you won't end up including bits of libx11 in your otherwise minimal image | 14:12 |
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| qschulz | jmd: can you check that polkit is in systemd's PACKAGECONFIG? | 14:14 |
| walter | When is the engineering call, in 45m? | 14:14 |
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| qschulz | jmd: bitbake-getvar -r systemd PACKAGECONFIG | 14:15 |
| rburton | walter: yes | 14:15 |
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| walter | I'll be joining, to see what's up, get a feel of how things work, maybe get involved more. | 14:18 |
| jmd | qschulz: That gives me a whole lot of text! | 14:20 |
| qschulz | jmd: add --value if you're not interested in the history | 14:21 |
| jmd | So it's giving me a list which includes polkit | 14:22 |
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| jmd | Is the order of the DISTRO_FEATUREs important? | 14:23 |
| rburton | nope | 14:23 |
| qschulz | ok, so "it should work"(tm) | 14:24 |
| qschulz | there's a user addition done in USERADD:${PN} for adding polkitd | 14:25 |
| qschulz | so maybe there's a bug but unfortunately I'm not familiar with how to setup a user in bitbake recipes so won't be able to help much there :/ | 14:25 |
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| qschulz | you could check that USERADD_PARAM:systemd actually contains the instructions for creating polkitd | 14:26 |
| qschulz | something like bitbake-getvar -r systemd USERADD_PARAM:systemd I guess | 14:26 |
| jmd | It does show an entry. | 14:28 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: re-ran now on a fresh ubuntu 22.04 vm, same fetcher error | 14:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: and the really, really weird part is: I just copied the wget invocation given in the logs, ran it manually, and it passed immediately. | 14:38 |
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| LetoThe2nd | which was https://hastebin.com/share/lugoxijeva.javascript, for the record. | 14:39 |
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| RP | kanavin: "bitbake-setup --global-settings /tmp init" gives KeyError: 'default' :) | 15:03 |
| RP | (i.e. a directory for settings instead of a file) | 15:03 |
| RP | (that exists) | 15:03 |
| walter | how does this zoom thing work these days? I'm not asked for a password after providing the meeting ID. Do I need an account? | 15:03 |
| RP | walter: that sounds like the wrong link :/ | 15:04 |
| RP | https://zoom.us/j/990892712?pwd=cHU1MjhoM2x6ck81bkcrYjRrcmJsUT09 | 15:04 |
| zeddii | there's still a calendar invite that shoots out the wrong link, I have been getting two for years one that works, one that wants the code :) | 15:04 |
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| paulbarker | walter: No account needed and you can join via browser | 15:04 |
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| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, can I have ssh access to that VM? | 15:24 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: no, but I've just spun up a new server at hetzner, and if that one fails too you can access it as its outside my network. | 15:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: now we're getting closer. this build seems to be good, after this error message and disabling apparmor: alex@bitbake-setup-2404:~/bitbake-builds/poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemuarm64/build$ bitbake core-image-minimal | 15:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | ERROR: User namespaces are not usable by BitBake, possibly due to AppArmor. | 15:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | See https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890#unprivileged-user-namespace-restrictions for more information. | 15:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | so there seems to be a condition where the build setup by bitbake-setup mandates this user-namespaces feature, whereas the vanilla poky one doesn't. | 15:39 |
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| rburton | vanilla poky does, but if you've been reusing a build tree or using an older branch you might not have got the warning | 15:40 |
| rburton | and we all know mender love their old releases ;) | 15:40 |
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| jmd | poky/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_255.21.bb has the line "chown polkitd:root ..." but never adds the user polkitd. Consequently it fails to install. | 15:44 |
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| qschulz | jmd: the USERADD command should be adding it | 15:47 |
| qschulz | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_255.21.bb?h=scarthgap#n470 | 15:48 |
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| yannd | Isn't it possible to set per-recipe/class the default task? We have nothing between a global BB_DEFAULT_TASK and -c ? | 15:49 |
| qschulz | yannd: what exactly are you trying to do? | 15:50 |
| qschulz | like what's the issue you're trying to solve | 15:50 |
| jmd | But the USERADD command comes after. | 15:51 |
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| qschulz | we do have tests in meta-selftests that seem to indicate this is possible | 15:52 |
| qschulz | c.f. meta-selftest/recipes-test/selftest-users/dcreategroup.bb | 15:52 |
| yannd | qschulz: I'm using bitbake on a standalone project, nor unlike ISAR but to build RPMS. Depending on recipes, what the default task is different (a classical do_deploy for packages, but another one for the recipe building the base image in which the builds occur) | 15:52 |
| yannd | I'm trying to work around this by using an empty do_build depending on the ask I want to get, even making advantage of it to depend on several tasks in the case of my base image - but then this do_build empty gets a constantly-changing signature, and all tasks depending on it get force-rebuilt every time | 15:55 |
| yannd | The latter is explained by printdiff as "Taint (by forced/invalidated task) changed from nostamp(uuid4):.... to ....", for which I did not find much explanations on the net | 15:57 |
| qschulz | jmd: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=d27961962d2c8456d9a90148943d4282494146c2 | 15:57 |
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| qschulz | jmd: I'm not sure if this would be a candidate for backporting to scarthgap though | 15:59 |
| jmd | Hmm. | 15:59 |
| qschulz | mmmm, that seems to be related to other commits in meta-openembedded (where polkit resides I guess) | 16:00 |
| jmd | So nobody ever used polkit with scarthgap ? | 16:00 |
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| qschulz | PACKAGECONFIG options that aren't in the default PACKAGECONFIG probably see much less use, so possible you're the first one to hit the issue | 16:01 |
| qschulz | but I'm perplexed by the user missing, this seems to be supported according to the selftests | 16:01 |
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| qschulz | jmd: if I don't misread meta/classes/useradd.bbclass, the useradd_preinst should be run right after do_prepare_recipe_sysroot | 16:07 |
| qschulz | you can check first by running bitbake-getvar -r systemd do_prepare_recipe_sysroot -f postfuncs | 16:08 |
| qschulz | hopefully useradd_sysroot_sstate is in there | 16:08 |
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| qschulz | if so, you can check that it ran from the recipe's temp/log.do_prepare_recipe_sysroot containing some output of useradd (or look at run.do_prepare_recipe_sysroot to make sure the useradd commands are there) | 16:09 |
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| jmd | I'll try those commands shortly. I'm baking something else right now. | 16:23 |
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| tgamblin | tlwoerner: thanks for the patchtest readme improvements. I need to update my email filters because I keep missing them :( | 16:36 |
| tlwoerner | tgamblin: glad you like them, it's a neat tool! | 16:38 |
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| jmd | qschulz: bitbake-getvar -r systemd do_prepare_recipe_sysroot -f postfuncs --value | 17:08 |
| jmd | shows: useradd_sysroot_sstate | 17:08 |
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| jmd | But I don't see any mention of it in systemd/255.21/temp/log.do_instal | 17:11 |
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| paulg | From today's minutes: "This change will mean “poky” as a combo-layer repository will no longer be needed or updated." | 17:41 |
| paulg | Might I suggest that the last commit to poky be an update to the main README indicating it is EOL, and also a bb-warn indicating the same, so people who aren't paying attention get an unavoidable notification. | 17:43 |
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| jmd | So what's the successor to poky ? | 17:46 |
| paulg | bitbake-setup | 17:46 |
| rburton | poky is just oe-core+bitbake+meta-yocto all glued into a single repo, so you've always been able to use them independently. bitbake-setup is a new tool that helps you fetch the parts (and do setup, and more) | 17:47 |
| paulg | Anyway, I can't be the only one with a 10+ year old poky repo, so I think this deserves some attention to communicating it well. | 17:48 |
| rburton | yeah | 17:51 |
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| jmd | What's the variable showing the place where the sources are unpacked to? | 17:57 |
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| LetoThe2nd | @rburton: vanilla poky certainly does not, I’ve cross checked each the builds. | 17:58 |
| LetoThe2nd | +of | 17:58 |
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| Saur | jmd: You mean `UNPACKDIR`? | 18:44 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: the thing that triggers apparmor? it certainly does out of the box, ubuntu is a standard install here and it keeps on tripping up new people. | 19:08 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: I really wonder why it never triggered here. I definitely always cross check with fresh checkouts of the poky repo for building. | 19:31 |
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| zeddii | khem: I have the 32bit build of vboxguestdrivers working, patch will be out shortly | 20:53 |
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