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Guest90Is meta-agl a bit chaotic or I'm just bad? :D06:38
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landgraf"a bit" :D07:21
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Guest90ERROR: Directory name ${AGL_TOP}/sstate-cache contains unexpanded bitbake variable. This may cause build failures and WORKDIR polution.07:49
Guest90I can swear that I followed the documentation :D07:49
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paulbarkerMorning08:27
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ak77are we hyped for Wrynose? is release date known ?08:32
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RPak77: we just managed the M3 build. There are dates in the weekly status reports and I'm hoping we can be within a week or so of them08:48
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RPrburton, paulbarker: systemtap determinism problem, linking against the host readline - do we patch it or just add the dependency unconditionally ?08:49
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paulbarkerRP: Is that for the target or native build of systemtap?08:56
RPpaulbarker: native but I can see both having issues08:57
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RPI think rburton has views on readline08:57
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rburtoni do! :)09:00
paulbarkerRP: Ideally I think we submit a patch to upstream to allow readline to be disabled via configure options09:01
RPpaulbarker: I guess that is the ideal fix09:02
RPhttps://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/48/builds/3537 is due to it FWIW09:02
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* rburton glances at the source to see how much pain this will be09:03
paulbarkerRP: We should be able to disable it for systemtap-native as the interactive mode isn't likely to be useful there09:03
paulbarkerrburton: It looks like it already supports compiling without readline if it fails to find it09:03
paulbarkerMakefile.am has `if HAVE_LIBREADLINE`09:04
rburtonthe configure check is ... suboptimal09:04
yanndis there a way from the DataSmart instance we get in recipes to get back to the full CacheData?09:05
yanndI guess we need to make queries to Cooker?09:06
RPright, the configure check is not possible to disable and I can guess why it fails on alma8 with buildtools09:06
RPyannd: recipes are intentionally unaware of other recipes so that is hard09:07
yanndspecifically, what I'm looking is access to Cachedata.packages09:07
rburtonRP: tbh depending on readline whilst adding the configure-fu to add an option isn't the worst thing09:07
RPrburton: it is why I'm a bit torn...09:08
rburtonthe check _is_ quite isolated09:08
rburtongive me two :)09:08
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yanndRP: I thought I could getaway from letting each recipe write out the info I need for downstream ones to consume, but that seems to seal the fate of the idea, right?09:09
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RPyannd: in OE, the packages are quite dynamic and not useful from the build data anyway. So yes, it was designed so shared data has to be explicit09:10
RPyannd: it means recipes can't avoid correct dependencies09:11
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rburtonRP: i hate autoconf but have something that i think can be upstreamed09:31
rburtonRP: https://pastebin.com/D9ytrct9.  i can send a patch to the recipe in a moment.09:32
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RPrburton: thanks, I couldn't quite face doing that this morning!09:35
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rburtonyeah not sure why i thought autoconf was a good start to the week09:37
RPrburton: it can only get better? :)09:38
RPis now a good time to mention the qemuarmv5 failures?09:38
rburtonurughhghh09:38
RPsorry, couldn't help it09:39
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rburtontell jonmason  :)09:43
yanndI sent a few patches to bitbake-devel last friday that don't show up, should I just resend them after subscribing?09:43
RPyannd: I'm not seeing any pending messages, so yes09:45
RPthey're listed as non-member bounces09:45
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yanndyep, wrong originating email :)09:49
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yanndwell, I guess my old account predates groups.io09:50
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ak77RP: thank you for info10:19
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rburtonRP: sent systemtap patch. twice, because i forgot to save the patch with the proper message in 🤦‍♂️10:29
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Guest26Hi guys,11:22
Guest26I have a question regarding the kernel-metadata "yocto-kernel-cache" repo.11:22
Guest26When we build a yocto-kernel, is the corresponding bsp .scc file actively used to patch the kernel sources?11:22
Guest26I tried to edit the beaglebone-standard.scc, but no matter what i enter it seems to have no effect on the kernel sources.11:22
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mckoanGuest26: .scc files are taken into account from linux-yocto therefore not every BSP manage them12:16
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Guest90rburton are you integrating sbom-cve-check to oe-core?12:23
rburtonGuest90: already happened https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=8ef22ad9e302f86b2da4fa81541a464e95b9ef3c12:24
Guest90thanks to you and benjamin :)12:26
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RPrburton: thanks!12:29
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rburtonGuest90: thank benjamin, I just helped :)12:30
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RPrburton, JPEW: Should we make SPDX_INCLUDE_VEX = all the default given how we're using it now?12:55
RPthe impact isn't as bad now the data is per recipe rather than per package?12:56
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yanndAh, a new (take on the same) topic: to avoid the overeager behavior of recrdeptask, I'd like to create do_deploy_runtimedeps_$PKG tasks.  I can addtask() those easily, but I'm unsure about the creation of their build-dependencies (package namespace) from existing runtime dependencies. The recipe do PROVIDES+='rpm/$PKG' for each of the PACKAGES, and I could use this in DEPENDS if it was possible to set a deptask, but since the task names are13:02
yannddynamic I can't do that. If I can't know which other recipe can resolve the PROVIDES from a given recipe, I guess I'll have to hack around this by having those recipes write out a reverse-cache of those provides. No better idea?13:02
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: did someone force-push to meta-mender master-next?13:04
yanndwell, that won't even work since I'd need to know on which recipes to depend to get the lists generated in the first place :(13:04
LetoThe2ndrburton: possible.13:04
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LetoThe2ndrburton: wrynose support is in the making and they are preparing the branch AFAIK13:04
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yanndRP: looks like if I can't do that from a bbclass I'll have to add something to bitbake?13:15
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yanndah I worried too fast, "$PROV:do_task" seems to do the resolution already13:39
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aduskett_over an hour to build nodejs-native. Good god what a bloated pile of garbage14:15
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landgrafaduskett_: not bad. it takes more than 2 hours on my machine (I had to lower number of threads due to memory limits)14:20
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aduskett_landgraf, yeah, it's just a corei9 14th gen laptop but still. It's by far the longest, and most memory-intensive package in this build14:20
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* RP wonders how the npm fetcher issues relate to using nodejs-native14:26
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landgrafRP: are they related? npm fetcher was pure python/bitbake iirc14:33
* landgraf bundled nodered and deps into separate tarball and doesn't depend on fetcher anymore. at least for now14:35
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RPlandgraf: I'm just wondering how you were handling the deps14:37
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landgrafRP:  all of them are in the same nodered-%{version}.tar.gz tarball (created with npm install using temporary podman/node container with npm inside). Not ideal but at least not blocking me14:40
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landgrafnot too much of a difference from the looong list of npm:// stuff devtool was generating before :-/14:44
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RPlandgraf: I'm just wondering what we do with the fetcher longer term and if anyone wants/uses it14:46
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landgrafRP: From the bz#16105 it looks not so difficult, like fixing devtool npm generator to save checksums into the recipe and verify them afterwards, that's done for pip and other fetchers I guess. At least if I understood the issue correctly14:51
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landgrafand if checksum changed - fail the build for manual inspection, just like other fetchers14:52
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RPlandgraf: basically yes, and not just taking data from the remote servers14:53
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landgrafRP: I'm wondering why it has not been done already. Maybe npm servers change/repack/alter artifacts for whatever reason? Like github did in the past...14:58
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JPEWRP, rburton: Ya, we might be able to change the default; it kinda depends on how the spdx-cve-check handles the version number checking15:06
JPEWIt should be _much_ less data than before15:07
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RPlandgraf: I just don't think anyone realised there was a problem15:48
RPJPEW: now the data is reduced, I think it might make things easier for people15:48
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