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| paulg | things are pretty quiet here, so I'll try and sneak in a systemd config question, instead of a snow/wildlife/welding comment. | 22:52 |
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| paulg | a bunch of systemd options (more than I even knew existed) are hard coded into the systemd.bb | 22:53 |
| paulg | Here is where the challenge is.... | 22:53 |
| JaMa | yeah everybody drinking in the release anticipation, right? tell me I'm not the only one :) | 22:53 |
| paulg | JaMa, there may or may not be a beer at arm's length. I'm taking the 5th on that. | 22:54 |
| Habbie | you shouldn't be irc after your 5th | 22:55 |
| Habbie | :) | 22:55 |
| JaMa | there aren't any full beers at arm's lenght anymore, need to go to fridge while chromium is building again | 22:57 |
| paulg | anyway - back to the original topic. My favourite software, systemd has a dependency loop if you try to build it with cryptsetup | 22:57 |
| paulg | credit to JaMa for getting me that far as he goes to the fridge. | 22:57 |
| JaMa | I think it's Lenart fault :) | 22:57 |
| paulg | Oh, I'm totally on board with that. | 22:58 |
| paulg | But it doesn't change what we (OE) do with it. | 22:58 |
| JaMa | paulg: iirc there is a PACKAGECONFIG in cryptsetup or lvm which you can turn off to break the loop | 23:00 |
| JaMa | paulg: did it says in the end which recipes are included in the loop? | 23:00 |
| paulg | JaMa, I wish I could be more specific but it filled the screen with llvm and uuid and util-linux with 10+ dependency loops | 23:01 |
| paulg | I researched further and found this was an old problem | 23:01 |
| paulg | Maybe solved and then re-appeared? | 23:01 |
| paulg | https://www.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2018-February/116976.html | 23:02 |
| paulg | I know we are not Ubuntu or some other pre-canned distro, but having cryptsetup enabled is more important now than it was 5y ago. | 23:03 |
| JaMa | cccheck the lvm2 PACKAGECONFIGs, e.g. udev | 23:04 |
| paulg | People are (rightly) more concerned about security stuff. No cryptsetup build and no systemd that supports dm-verity | 23:04 |
| paulg | I'm a kernel guy dabbling in userspace, so y'all have to speak slowly and in small words. :-P | 23:05 |
| JaMa | l v m 2 P A C K A G E C O N F I G | 23:06 |
| * paulg rotfl | 23:07 | |
| paulg | for the record, that horrible hateful selfish RP dude shut down a Yocto bug meant for the same thing. | 23:08 |
| paulg | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11856 | 23:08 |
| JaMa | at least I wasn't far with lvm2, I deserve another beer! | 23:10 |
| paulg | anyway, all joking aside... The above was 5y ago and people are taking security more serious now. The default ubuntu install has libcryptconfig enabled. | 23:10 |
| paulg | I'm not saying it is our job to parrot a desktop distro, but we should at least be able to build with the current "defacto" set of options. | 23:11 |
| JaMa | I think it still works, just the options need small massage to break the loop | 23:12 |
| paulg | it could be. I'm as dumb as a sack of hammers, so I handed it off to someone to investigate further. | 23:13 |
| JaMa | chatGPT? :) | 23:14 |
| paulg | What I (largely) wanted to establish here was that it was something we should fix. | 23:14 |
| paulg | And, no. Not ChatGPT. Someone who actually works in userspace, vs. dabbling in it. | 23:15 |
| JaMa | I believe so (if it really needs fixing) | 23:15 |
| paulg | Cool. | 23:15 |
| paulg | I'll go back to posting pictures of snow and owls and fox. :-P | 23:15 |
| paulg | And laughing at RP 'cause he's got 100 bike/auto projects on the go and no time to work on them. | 23:16 |
| JaMa | I was recently fixing some code which still didn't build without -fpermissive (which was dropped from default flags in 2015, but the developer returned it when his stuff started to fail building), so I don't like "AI", but now I'm more willing to give it a try over some real humans :) | 23:17 |
| JaMa | at least they are on the go, not rust-ing in the shed | 23:18 |
| paulg | oh, dude. that is bad. | 23:18 |
| JaMa | yeah, run out of beer again | 23:18 |
| paulg | couldn't you have worked clang into that sentence too? | 23:18 |
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