Tuesday, 2023-04-04

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paulgthings are pretty quiet here, so I'll try and sneak in a systemd config question, instead of a snow/wildlife/welding comment.22:52
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paulga bunch of systemd options (more than I even knew existed) are hard coded into the systemd.bb22:53
paulgHere is where the challenge is....22:53
JaMayeah everybody drinking in the release anticipation, right? tell me I'm not the only one :)22:53
paulgJaMa, there may or may not be a beer at arm's length.  I'm taking the 5th on that.22:54
Habbieyou shouldn't be irc after your 5th22:55
Habbie:)22:55
JaMathere aren't any full beers at arm's lenght anymore, need to go to fridge while chromium is building again22:57
paulganyway - back to the original topic.  My favourite software, systemd has a dependency loop if you try to build it with cryptsetup22:57
paulgcredit to JaMa for getting me that far as he goes to the fridge.22:57
JaMaI think it's Lenart fault :)22:57
paulgOh, I'm totally on board with that.22:58
paulgBut it doesn't change what we (OE) do with it.22:58
JaMapaulg: iirc there is a PACKAGECONFIG in cryptsetup or lvm which you can turn off to break the loop23:00
JaMapaulg: did it says in the end which recipes are included in the loop?23:00
paulgJaMa, I wish I could be more specific but it filled the screen with llvm and uuid and util-linux with 10+ dependency loops23:01
paulgI researched further and found this was an old problem23:01
paulgMaybe solved and then re-appeared?23:01
paulg https://www.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2018-February/116976.html23:02
paulgI know we are not Ubuntu or some other pre-canned distro, but having cryptsetup enabled is more important now than it was 5y ago.23:03
JaMacccheck the lvm2 PACKAGECONFIGs, e.g. udev23:04
paulgPeople are (rightly) more concerned about security stuff.  No cryptsetup build and no systemd that supports dm-verity23:04
paulgI'm a kernel guy dabbling in userspace, so y'all have to speak slowly and in small words.  :-P23:05
JaMal  v  m   2                   P    A    C    K    A    G    E    C   O    N   F   I   G23:06
* paulg rotfl23:07
paulgfor the record, that horrible hateful selfish RP dude shut down a Yocto bug meant for the same thing.23:08
paulghttps://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1185623:08
JaMaat least I wasn't far with lvm2, I deserve another beer!23:10
paulganyway, all joking aside... The above was 5y ago and people are taking security more serious now.  The default ubuntu install has libcryptconfig enabled.23:10
paulgI'm not saying it is our job to parrot a desktop distro, but we should at least be able to build with the current "defacto" set of options.23:11
JaMaI think it still works, just the options need small massage to break the loop23:12
paulgit could be.  I'm as dumb as a sack of hammers, so I handed it off to someone to investigate further.23:13
JaMachatGPT? :)23:14
paulgWhat I (largely) wanted to establish here was that it was something we should fix.23:14
paulgAnd, no.  Not ChatGPT.  Someone who actually works in userspace, vs. dabbling in it.23:15
JaMaI believe so (if it really needs fixing)23:15
paulgCool.23:15
paulgI'll go back to posting pictures of snow and owls and fox.  :-P23:15
paulgAnd laughing at RP 'cause he's got 100 bike/auto projects on the go and no time to work on them.23:16
JaMaI was recently fixing some code which still didn't build without -fpermissive (which was dropped from default flags in 2015, but the developer returned it when his stuff started to fail building), so I don't like "AI", but now I'm more willing to give it a try over some real humans :)23:17
JaMaat least they are on the go, not rust-ing in the shed23:18
paulgoh, dude. that is bad.23:18
JaMayeah, run out of beer again23:18
paulgcouldn't you have worked clang into that sentence too?23:18

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