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| mort | Rockchip is so annoying to deal with | 14:49 |
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| mort | meta-rockchip refers to github.com/JeffyCN/mirrors for everything, and that repo keeps deleting old commits, so stuff keeps breaking | 14:49 |
| mort | I should probably fork JeffyCN/mirrors and add my repo as a premirror | 14:50 |
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| rburton | mort: you know of git.yoctoproject.org/meta-rockchip, right | 15:58 |
| mort | only insofar as I know it exists | 16:04 |
| mort | I haven't looked into it | 16:04 |
| mort | it's not what I'm using for this project | 16:05 |
| mort | maybe it should be, but right now I'm dealing with the fallout of someone else doing the base OS stuff | 16:06 |
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| rburton | you might want to look. its rockchip hardware support but redone on top of upstream uboot, linux-yocto, etc. | 16:14 |
| mort | I'll keep it in mind for the future | 16:17 |
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| mort | but considering just how much of a pain rockchip is to work with due to BS like this I think I'll rather try to avoid them | 16:19 |
| rburton | the yocto-hosted site is not done by rockchip at all. i'm sure tlwoerner can sell it to you :) | 16:21 |
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| mort | I assume things like GPU drivers are still a massive pita | 16:23 |
| mort | I know panthor was just merged but that's not gonna be in a version that's used by a yocto lts release until 2026 I'm guessing | 16:23 |
| mort | at which point their 2021 GPUs will be usable | 16:24 |
| tlwoerner | mort: which board/SoC are you using? | 16:24 |
| mort | right now it's the px30 which I think is slightly less horrible to deal with GPU-wise, but I have an rk3588 SBC that's literal hell | 16:25 |
| mort | I've had less trouble dealing with qualcomm than rockchip tbh | 16:25 |
| tlwoerner | i never retroactively clobber history in the meta-rockchip that I maintain, even to save face from past quasi-embarrassing mistakes i've made :-) | 16:25 |
| tlwoerner | i agree that's a very yucky thing to do | 16:26 |
| tlwoerner | Quentin Schutlz works for a company making consumer products based on the px30 | 16:27 |
| tlwoerner | (and using the yocto meta-rockchip) | 16:28 |
| mort | I'm sure your work on the yoctoproject-hosted meta-rockchip is fine | 16:28 |
| tlwoerner | i don't personally do a lot of rockchip-based GPU things, i assume panfrost and mali work fine | 16:29 |
| tlwoerner | i haven't had any complaints | 16:29 |
| tlwoerner | i don't have any support for the closed-source stuff, however | 16:29 |
| tlwoerner | oops, i should have said lima above, mali is the closed-source stuff | 16:29 |
| rburton | oh my list of things to do is get some boards with actual GPUs on and make sure lima etc works out of the box properly | 16:30 |
| mort | I use 5.10 and xorg-legacy and debs which don't exist in source form from rockchip servers on the rk3588 because the 3588's GPU isn't supported in mesa in any released linux version | 16:30 |
| mort | libmali and libgra and what not is horrible to deal with | 16:31 |
| mort | I have on my todo list to get a bleeding edge kernel with panthor and see if that stuff is ready enough for chromium to work reasonably well for the 3588 board | 16:32 |
| rburton | it should be, it's used in production by <cough> some large companies | 16:33 |
| mort | rburton: if you need some boards with GPUs I could probably set up both a px30 board and a 3588 board for you to play with some time | 16:33 |
| rburton | i mainly just need to get around to making an argument that i need a 3588 | 16:33 |
| tlwoerner | mort: remotely? | 16:37 |
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| mort | tlwoerner: yeah | 16:38 |
| rburton | hard to test a gpu without physical access :) | 16:38 |
| mort | well, depends on the part you're testing doesn't it | 16:39 |
| tlwoerner | i don't have anything px30-based, if i had access to something to do smoke tests once in a while that would be awesome | 16:39 |
| mort | you wouldn't be able to test that the picture on the screen looks good, but you should be able to check most parts of the pipeline with screen recording | 16:39 |
| rburton | throw it in a labgrid farm and hook up a hdmi->webcam adapter :) | 16:40 |
| mort | hmmmmmmm I have a HDMI -> USB thing lets you capture jpegs from HDMI | 16:40 |
| mort | (I bought it not realizing that it outputs jpegs rather than raw frames lol) | 16:41 |
| rburton | i know a team at work who have a labgrid farm for board testing and hdmi-webcam so they can watch ~live output | 16:41 |
| mort | the px30 board I have doesn't have HDMI though | 16:41 |
| mort | tlwoerner: if you think having access to a px30 board would be useful I can try to bring mine up with a relatively vanilla meta-rockchip yocto setup and DM you once I have it working and reachable via SSH | 16:44 |
| mort | can't promise anything before easter but I should have some time to play with that sort of stuff in early april | 16:44 |
| tlwoerner | mort: sounds great! | 17:04 |
| tlwoerner | mort: if you can build core-image-base and it boots to a prompt, that's all i need to know really | 17:05 |
| mort | tlwoerner: I see | 17:06 |
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