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| waynr | so the ADT Installer uses a PMS repo to build a sysroot for the installer? | 03:20 |
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| waynr | er for the ADT/SDK* | 03:20 |
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| RP | kergoth: Roughly speaking, the plan was to figure out exactly the information we needed, double check we had all the right info, then add in generic data driven bits if that made sense. I didn't what to end up adding broken interfaces or interfaces we didn't need | 06:48 |
| RP | kergoth: of course we never did get back to adding in the generic pieces but the intent is still there | 06:48 |
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| RP | waynr: yes | 07:00 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:04 |
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| AlexG | halstead: ping | 07:09 |
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| mattnie | morning mckoan | 07:10 |
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| halstead | AlexG: what's up? | 07:13 |
| AlexG | halstead: let | 07:13 |
| AlexG | s talk on private please :) | 07:13 |
| halstead | AlexG: sure. | 07:15 |
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| mranostay | priv msgs! | 07:29 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 08:13 |
| mranostay | bluelightning: hey! | 08:15 |
| bluelightning | hi mranostay | 08:15 |
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| mattnie | hi bluelightning | 08:18 |
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| bluelightning | hi mattnie | 08:31 |
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| Sput | hi guys, is there a nice way to import an environment variable into a bitbake recipe? In this particular case, I need to access JAVA_HOME from inside a recipe | 09:23 |
| bluelightning | Sput: you just need to add the variable name to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE | 09:26 |
| bluelightning | that will allow it into the internal environment | 09:26 |
| Sput | bluelightning: yeah, but it requires user configuration which I try to avoid | 09:27 |
| Sput | unless I can do that inside the recipe? | 09:27 |
| bluelightning | Sput: you can't no | 09:28 |
| bluelightning | Sput: typically we don't rely on host tools that require passing in paths from outside | 09:28 |
| bluelightning | so we don't hit this kind of problem often | 09:28 |
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| Sput | bluelightning: mmh. yeah, it's broken by design, but unfortunately I can't change that in this particular instance. I was playing around with BB_ORIGENV, but it's not working as expected | 10:10 |
| bluelightning | Sput: I could only suggest supplying your own setup script which extends BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE as appropriate | 10:12 |
| mattnie | I have a question about kernel configuration.. Is it possible to configure the kernel with a _defconfig file? Or how can i configure the kernel without using Kconfigs | 10:14 |
| RP | Sput: you should be able to query BB_ORIGENV and extract the data from there. How are you trying to use it? | 10:15 |
| Sput | RP: failing hard at python :) | 10:15 |
| RP | mattnie: you can provide a defconfig for it to use, yes | 10:15 |
| RP | Sput: you mean you need an example? | 10:15 |
| Sput | sec | 10:16 |
| Sput | JAVA_HOME = "${@d.getVar("BB_ORIGENV", True).getVar("JAVA_HOME", False)}" | 10:16 |
| Sput | is what I'm trying right now | 10:16 |
| Sput | but of course I don't really know what I'm doing | 10:17 |
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| mattnie | RP: So if i edit e.g. "tmp/work/imx6qsabresd-poky-linux-gnueabi/linux-imx-3.0.35-r32.10/git/arch/configs/imx6_defconfig" and build kernel new with "bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f; bitbake virtual/kernel" it uses the defconfig? | 10:17 |
| RP | Sput: "BB_ORIGENV", True -> "BB_ORIGENV", False | 10:18 |
| mattnie | RP: or do you have a short howto if i am wrong | 10:18 |
| Sput | RP: what does this parameter mean btw? | 10:18 |
| RP | mattnie: you need to put the new defconfig in SRC_URI so it knows where to find it | 10:18 |
| RP | Sput: whether to try and expand the data or not | 10:18 |
| Sput | aah. | 10:19 |
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| RP | python () { | 10:19 |
| RP | origenv = d.getVar("BB_ORIGENV", False) | 10:19 |
| RP | abc = origenv.getVar("ABC", True) | 10:19 |
| RP | d.setVar("ABC", abc) | 10:19 |
| RP | } | 10:19 |
| RP | will set ABC from the environment. Your version is just the condensed one | 10:19 |
| RP | bluelightning: I guess I should mail scott this? | 10:20 |
| bluelightning | RP: I guess so, the question would be where to put it | 10:21 |
| bluelightning | it's also one of those limited use things, I suspect some people could abuse it :/ | 10:21 |
| bluelightning | RP: I'd say enter a doc bug report, then it won't get lost | 10:22 |
| Sput | RP: hmm, that seems to do something, but it now fails later. will investigate, thanks for the pointers for now :) | 10:22 |
| RP | bluelightning: right, its one of those double edged swords | 10:24 |
| RP | bluelightning: I've mailed Scott, cc'd you | 10:24 |
| RP | bluelightning: we can bugzila it if necessary | 10:25 |
| RP | Sput: bitbake -e <recipe> | grep JAVA_HOME is a good debugging tool for this | 10:26 |
| Sput | oh nice | 10:27 |
| Sput | yeah, it seems to get the correct value now, but somehow the recipe fails where it didn't yesterday. but it also fails when I just hardcode the path, so something else is amiss | 10:28 |
| eren | what happened to beautiful bitbake-env utility? | 10:32 |
| eren | is it still developed? | 10:32 |
| bluelightning | eren: it hasn't moved; I'd like to look at how we can integrate it in the coming development cycle | 10:35 |
| bluelightning | (assuming bitbake-env is kergoth's utility) | 10:35 |
| eren | bluelightning: yeah, it's kergoth's | 10:44 |
| eren | It's nice to hear that it would be integrated in the future | 10:44 |
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| mattnie | RP: can you help me? Do I have to add SRC_URI to conf/local.conf? If i am right I have found an example SRC_URI = "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kernel/kmod/kmod.git;protocol=git;tag=v${PV}" but i am t stupid to transfer it for my use.. | 10:55 |
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| bluelightning | mattnie: you would set that in a recipe | 11:02 |
| bluelightning | specifically, the recipe for the piece of software you want to build (if it's something new you would create a new one) | 11:02 |
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| RP | mattnie: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#changing-the-configuration | 11:05 |
| RP | mattnie: I'd suggest reading that manual | 11:06 |
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| mattnie | RP & bluelightning: thx I will read and try it :) | 11:15 |
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| erbo | can I build a 32-bit sdk on a 64-bit hosts? | 11:31 |
| zecke | erbo: yes | 11:35 |
| erbo | zecke: do you know how I do it? By default bitbake -c populate_sdk myimage just builds a 64-bit version | 11:36 |
| zecke | erbo: I think the local.conf has documentation for that. just study it | 11:37 |
| erbo | zecke: will do, thanks | 11:40 |
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| gizero | hi! what is the package/class responsible for creating initial files in /dev? I mean those that are statically present in an image's rootfs | 12:08 |
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| mckoan | gizero: initscripts | 12:25 |
| gizero | mckoan: hi! thanks... investigating on a missing /dev/ttyS2... | 12:26 |
| mckoan | gizero: udev didn't set it? | 12:36 |
| gizero | strangely enough ttyS0 is there while ttyS2 is not... even if the kernel is correctly using ttyS2 as its console | 12:38 |
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| gizero | mckoan: noticed that my image was even missing the udev init script. Hence udevd was not running at all. Due to wrong mixture of meta-layers here | 13:09 |
| gizero | mckoan: fixed now | 13:09 |
| Sput | hm. I keep getting this backtrace, does that look familiar to anyone? http://dpaste.com/1061884/ | 13:20 |
| Sput | I have no idea why it would want to launch any UI | 13:20 |
| fray | never seen anything like that before | 13:20 |
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| fray | you need a UI to see what is happening.. the knotty UI is the text console | 13:20 |
| Sput | and I'm pretty sure it worked before, I already cleaned my build dir and state cache | 13:20 |
| Sput | how would I debug this? | 13:20 |
| fray | I've never encountered a bug like this, so I'm not sure.. | 13:20 |
| fray | it looks to me like something is failing in bitbake itself... but I have no idea how or why.. | 13:20 |
| fray | are you using master or a release? | 13:21 |
| Sput | latest dylan | 13:21 |
| Sput | but it also fails with 3b2713684e which is a bit older | 13:21 |
| * fray goes to look to see if there have been any recent bitbake changes | 13:21 | |
| bluelightning | Sput: how are you invoking bitbake? | 13:21 |
| Sput | just bitbake <image-name> | 13:21 |
| Sput | after setting up the usual build environment, of course | 13:22 |
| fray | ya, I don't see anything that would suggest this kind of failure.. sorry | 13:22 |
| bluelightning | Sput: I'm just wondering how I would go about reproducing the issue | 13:22 |
| Sput | still trying to determine if it really always fails with the same recipe (which worked properly yesterday) | 13:23 |
| fray | even if you have a faulty recipe, you should never get a failure like this | 13:23 |
| Sput | unfortunately, I can't share our layer | 13:23 |
| bluelightning | sure, but if you can boil it down to a simple test case that would really help a lot | 13:23 |
| Sput | yep | 13:24 |
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| bluelightning | I definitely agree with fray, no backtraces should ever be printed | 13:24 |
| Sput | I was hoping you'd seen something like this before and could point me in some direction for further investigation | 13:24 |
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| bluelightning | unfortunately no... not sure if RP or kergoth have ( http://dpaste.com/1061884/ for reference ) | 13:24 |
| jackmitchell | Sput: enough diskspace? | 13:25 |
| Sput | yep | 13:25 |
| Sput | 75G should be sufficient :) | 13:25 |
| RP | Sput: It the use of BB_ORIGENV | 13:25 |
| jackmitchell | it's caught me out before :( | 13:26 |
| RP | Sput: the variable is not pickleable and you're upseting the signature generation code | 13:26 |
| Sput | RP: well, mayybe it started with me playing around with the python stuff, but even if I remove the line it still fails | 13:26 |
| Sput | hmm | 13:26 |
| Sput | unfortunately I don't even know what "pickleable" means :) | 13:26 |
| RP | Sput: you might have to manually force the dependencies or something | 13:26 |
| fray | RP, is there any way we can catch that condition and print a better error? | 13:27 |
| RP | fray: yes | 13:27 |
| RP | we should file a bug (with a way to reproduce it) and we should fix it | 13:27 |
| RP | right now, the rc2 release build is due in hours and I have a more pressing issue I need to look at though :/ | 13:28 |
| Sput | RP: so what would be a proper workaround/fix in my recipe? which dependency I need to add? | 13:28 |
| Sput | sorry that I'm so incompetent here :) | 13:28 |
| RP | Sput: Off the top of my head I don't know, I'd need to write up the example I deleted earlier, then try some things | 13:29 |
| Sput | ok | 13:29 |
| RP | Sput: I need to look at something else right now :( | 13:29 |
| Sput | understandably :) | 13:29 |
| Sput | could it happen that a python snippet I commented out with # in the recipe still gets evaluated somewhere? | 13:30 |
| Sput | that might explain why it still fails | 13:30 |
| RP | Sput: commented out it shouldn't be the issue | 13:31 |
| Sput | ok. I'll try out some more stuff once the prerequisited have finished building | 13:31 |
| Sput | *prerequisites | 13:31 |
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| makani | test | 14:54 |
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| Sput | RP: so apparently, this python stuff is actually evaluated even in a commented line. after removing it completely, I can at least build without a crash (although of course that doesn't solve the actual problem that I'd like to be able to import a variable from the environment) | 15:30 |
| Sput | I wish that had occured to me before wiping my build directory twice :) | 15:31 |
| RP | Sput: you mean a commented line in something like a shell function don't you? :/ | 15:32 |
| Sput | yes | 15:32 |
| RP | Sput: you didn't say that earlier | 15:32 |
| RP | Sput: bitbake expands the python in shell functions before it tries to understand the shell | 15:32 |
| Sput | RP: oh, I didn't know that | 15:33 |
| Sput | today I learned :) | 15:33 |
| Sput | actually. I wonder if I can somehow set that in global scope then | 15:33 |
| RP | Sput: it will still try and parse it if you use it somewhere | 15:33 |
| Sput | bitbake's variable handling is so confusing :/ | 15:34 |
| Sput | RP: hm okay | 15:34 |
| Sput | well, then maybe all that's left is whitelisting in my local conf... although I think there should be some official and working way of importing random env vars into a recipe | 15:35 |
| kergoth | the main source of confusion in this regard is the fact that bitbake's variables and shell variables use the same syntax. ${}. | 15:35 |
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| RP | Sput: are you using danny? | 15:40 |
| gkiagia | hm, where is the right place to report a bug for the meta-raspberrypi layer? | 15:41 |
| RP | gkiagia: what does the layer README say? | 15:41 |
| gkiagia | well, it doesn't say | 15:42 |
| RP | gkiagia: it really should. I'm email the listed maintainer and suggest they add that information | 15:43 |
| Sput | RP: dylan | 15:43 |
| RP | Sput: hmm, I didn't get the error here with the anonymous python | 15:44 |
| Sput | JAVA_HOME="${@d.getVar("BB_ORIGENV", False).getVar("JAVA_HOME", True)}" | 15:46 |
| Sput | is the exact phrase I'm using, maybe I have some syntax error in there? | 15:46 |
| Sput | it works in the sense that the variable has the correct value afterwards | 15:46 |
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| kergoth | isn't BB_ORIGENV a dict, rather than a DataSmart object, or am I remembering wrong? | 15:48 |
| RP | kergoth: its a datasmart | 15:48 |
| kergoth | ah, okay, cool | 15:49 |
| RP | Sput: do JAVA_HOME[vardepvalue] = "${JAVA_HOME}" | 15:49 |
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| RP | Sput: that should make it happier, I could reproduce here and it sorted it | 15:49 |
| RP | Sput: if you'd tried the anonymous python I showed you, that didn't have this problem | 15:49 |
| Sput | can I just use this snippet in a shell function? | 15:50 |
| RP | Sput: do this outside the shell function, then use the variable in the shell function | 15:52 |
| Sput | ok, lemme try | 15:52 |
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| Sput | this shell/python mix is also I still need to fully understand :) | 15:52 |
| RP | Sput: i.e. both the JAVA_HOME assignment and the vardepvalue | 15:52 |
| RP | Sput: then in the shell just do JAVA_HOME=${JAVA_HOME} | 15:53 |
| RP | I know this looks ugly but it should work | 15:53 |
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| Sput | don't care about the looks :) | 15:56 |
| Sput | I would like to mention that I really love how helpful people in here are. bitbake can be pretty confusing for a relative noob, and I've had my problems solved by you guys more than once already | 15:56 |
| fray | Sput, that's part of the goal of the YP.. a community where you can get answers to issues like this | 15:57 |
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| Sput | and now I got it to work indeed \o/ | 15:58 |
| Sput | thanks a lot! | 15:58 |
| JaMa | interesting, latest rebuild from sstate-cache was failing with "Fatal error: invalid -march= option: `armv5te'" in every target image, rebuilding toolchain fixed that | 15:58 |
| JaMa | s/image/recipe/ | 15:58 |
| rburton | Sput: bitbake is pretty confusing for a grizzled expert too | 15:59 |
| fray | ;) | 15:59 |
| fray | ls | 15:59 |
| fray | oops | 15:59 |
| Crofton|work | fray, of course, I must point out the community pre-dates the yocto project :) | 16:01 |
| fray | yes | 16:01 |
| rburton | back in the good old days you got mocked for not understanding bitbake! ;) | 16:02 |
| fray | ha | 16:02 |
| Sput | maybe this particular issue would make a good addition for utils.bbclass? import_env_var() or something? | 16:03 |
| Crofton|work | and depending who is on, you might get mocked again :) | 16:03 |
| Crofton|work | zeddii, ping | 16:04 |
| Crofton|work | is there a wuick answer to this | 16:05 |
| Crofton|work | http://pastebin.com/hBYNrz2A | 16:05 |
| Crofton|work | gah, I need to check one more thing | 16:06 |
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| makani | I needed to move my yocto directory to another hard disk and bitbake now tells me I need to rebuild. But how to do this? | 16:11 |
| makani | a simple bitbake -c clean does not resolve my situation | 16:12 |
| Crofton|work | also, do not forget to specify the defconfig if you are using linux-yocto-custom without the kconf stuff | 16:12 |
| fray | you move the 'sstate-cache' directory to the new machine, along with your downloads.. | 16:12 |
| fray | then start a build.. | 16:12 |
| fray | it will re-use as much as it can.. which SHOULD be around 95% or more fo the build | 16:12 |
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| fray | (ohh and of course the configuration needs to be the same..) | 16:13 |
| fray | if the host type has changed, the reuse will be closer to about 80% in my experience | 16:13 |
| fray | the key though is the sstate-cache holds all of the reusable components | 16:13 |
| makani | ok thanks for your fast reply | 16:15 |
| makani | i am currently testing it | 16:15 |
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| Sput | how robust is the sstate-cache for sharing between multiple simultaneous builds (in different build directories of course), possibly for different targets too? | 16:17 |
| fray | it should 'just work' | 16:18 |
| RP | Sput: tried and tested in that scenario | 16:21 |
| Sput | that's good to know :) | 16:21 |
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| Sput | for integrating a Yocto setup in a CI system that supports various build configurations that should save lots and lots of rebuild time | 16:24 |
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| jstashluk | I have a kernel config fragment that is not making it to the .config; How do I figure out why? | 19:21 |
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| jstashluk | ok, I have a funny do_configure_prepend included by my kernel recipe.... | 19:27 |
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| RP | Crofton|work: This mailing list problem is now seriously hurting the release of the project | 21:26 |
| RP | Crofton|work: I'm not seeing things from people and am having to ask them to send me the messages off list | 21:26 |
| Crofton|work | people are supposed to be working on this | 21:26 |
| RP | Crofton|work: I just want to make it clear this is killing things for me :( | 21:26 |
| RP | can't work effectively with this lag, its stupid | 21:27 |
| Crofton|work | to be fair, I've also heard issues with yp lists and lag at times | 21:27 |
| Crofton|work | let me check the last email I received on the subject | 21:27 |
| RP | Crofton|work: which got investigated and fixed within hour s afaik | 21:27 |
| bluelightning | yes it has been a problem there lately too | 21:27 |
| Crofton|work | all the people who need to be working together know they need to proceed | 21:28 |
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| mranostay | hi Crofton|work | 21:35 |
| mranostay | why are you not here? | 21:35 |
| Crofton|work | save some time | 21:37 |
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| thaytan | hmmm, I wonder why this build always wants to rebuild the kernel every time I run bitbake? | 22:23 |
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| bluelightning | thaytan: does the kernel version include DATETIME by any chance? | 22:29 |
| thaytan | bluelightning: no - linux-ti81xx-psp-2.6.37-r1 | 22:34 |
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| bluelightning | thaytan: hmm not sure, I would suggest asking on the meta-ti list | 22:54 |
| bluelightning | thaytan: kernel.bbclass does use DATETIME but it is supposed to be set up so that doesn't cause a rebuild when that value is different | 22:55 |
| rburton | thaytan: ti? presumably this isn't work, right? :) | 22:55 |
| thaytan | bluelightning: yeah, it seems weird that it's just that recipe. I'll keep poking | 23:00 |
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| thaytan | rburton: evaluating some hardware | 23:01 |
| bluelightning | thaytan: I'd suggest using bitbake-diffsigs, but that may not be easy to use with denzil (you are using denzil right?) | 23:01 |
| thaytan | bluelightning: no, this is danny | 23:03 |
| bluelightning | thaytan: I can't see a linux-ti81xx-psp recipe in meta-ti on danny, but I guess it's possible you're not pulling that from meta-ti I guess | 23:04 |
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| thaytan | bluelightning: it was deleted about a month ago | 23:04 |
| bluelightning | I see | 23:05 |
| thaytan | anyway, I'll either figure it out or tolerate the rebuilds :) | 23:05 |
| bluelightning | well bitbake-diffsigs ought to be able to tell you what changed that altered the signature and triggered the rebuild | 23:06 |
| denix | thaytan: do you have TARGET_ARCH in the machine config, by any chance? | 23:06 |
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