Tuesday, 2013-11-12

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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #358 of nightly-arm-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-arm-lsb/builds/35800:21
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thaytanrburton, ping06:47
thaytanwhat's the correct way to override DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 ?06:49
thaytando I need a .bbappend for each recipe?06:50
thaytanno, a PREFERRED_VERSION should work06:55
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chocisStygia, thanks for yesterday help08:03
chocisStygia, thanks for yesterday help.08:03
chocisI've got another question and this is a big one...about workflow.08:04
chocisWe are working with yocto and freescale extra layers, because we have our custom board based on Freescales imx board.08:05
chocisThe problem is that we have many different projects with different board revisions (configurations) and we will probably have different boards in future.08:05
chocisEvery project is considered as a separate linux distribution (because of different needed packages, different recipe configurations...etc)08:06
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chocisWe would like to have this all maintanabli in some way that if I needed an image for some projet I could just compile it without any configurations08:07
chocisThe thing is that we probably could have different machines/machineconfigurations for the same project/distribution/recipecombination08:08
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chocisIt would be easy if we simply had 2 machines08:08
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chocisBut we have different revisions of the same board, which are "cut down" - manu hardware parts/periherals removed, where we would need a different kernel branch/repo08:09
chocisSeparate layer for each project seems fine, but then there is kernel layer, which means kernel+boardrevision layer - and that seems to much.08:12
chocisSeparate machine for each revision seems cumbersome too.08:12
chocisWhat would be anyone's workflow in this situation?08:12
ndecif you can't have more 'runtime' detection, then i would opt for 1 layer with several machine configs. machine config can 'include' files, so you can minimize the duplication.08:13
chocisHmm but each project should have a different recipe configs. In example kernel defconfig for each project should be stripped down to minimal - In one case I need iptables and bluetooth, in other project I need other different stuff.08:15
ndeceach machine can have its defconfig. are you saying you don't want that?08:17
chocisno not really. I want to use the same machine/board for different project too.08:18
RPchocis: you can have one core BSP which you then just tweak in a given layer...08:19
RPe.g. tweak the kernel defconfig in that layer08:19
ndecthere is also config fragment (.cfg file) that can be used to tweak defconfig08:20
RPYes, tweaking in the config fragment format works well08:20
ndecthe cfg could be specific to distro or machine (or both)08:20
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chocisThank you for your answers. Thans of solutions we thought of. Then I could enbale one projectSpecific layer at a time.08:23
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mtahmedAre there any llvm+clang bitbake recipes? I found some in meta-openembedded for llvm but none for clang.13:11
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WarheadsSEchocis: use DTB if possible14:47
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wfailladose bitbake edit the BBFILE_PRIORITY of a layer even if i set it manually ?15:24
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kergoth"edit"? "set it manually"?15:30
kergothbitbake doesn't pull priorities out of thin air, it reads them from layer.conf15:30
wfaillain the dev-manual section 5.1.6. Prioritizing your Layer, it is stated: "You can either specify the priority manualy, or allow the build system to calculate it based on the layer's dependencies."15:34
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wfaillaand when i have some extra layers configured in to the build (bblayers.conf) some layers will have a different priority set to them when executing "bitbake-layers show-layers"15:36
wfaillaso why is that ?15:36
wfaillaFYI all my layers have a manually set priority15:37
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jzhang-laptopYPTM: jzhang on the call16:01
BSDCatYPTM: Matthew on the call16:01
rburtonYPTM : ross finding the phone16:01
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belenYPTM: belen on the call16:01
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sgw_The Yocto Project Tech Meeting Con-Call will be starting at the top of the hour16:02
sgw_Dial-in number: 1.972.995.7777 / Participant passcode:   4200107816:02
sgw_This call is open to all and the channel remains open to discuss any topic16:02
ZagorYPTM: Björn is on the call16:02
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scottrifYPTM: Scott Rifenbark is on the call16:02
zeddiiYPTM: Bruce is on the call16:02
sgw_YPTM: Saul is on16:02
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dvhartYPTM: Darren has joined16:03
halsteadYPTM: Michael here.16:03
RPYTPM: Richard is here16:03
jmpdelosYPTM: Polk is here16:03
tomzYPTM: Tom Z on16:03
* rburton on16:04
belenYPTM: pidge is also on the call16:04
ZagorYPTM: Björn is on the call16:04
sgw_YPTM: Open - ptest16:04
Song_LiuYPTM: any open?16:05
RPI can talk briefly about performance either as team sharing or as an open...16:05
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Corneliu_YPTM: Corneliu joined16:06
frayYPTM: Mark is here16:06
Corneliu_oe-selftest feature: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474016:07
yoctiBug 4740: enhancement, High, 1.6, corneliux.stoicescu, ACCEPTED , Consider providing an oe-selftest script to run automated tests against bitbake tools16:07
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* RP has just pushed16:10
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rburtonnew git fetching code is EPIC16:11
rburtonfor the record16:11
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Saursgw_: Stumbled upon something the other day. In July you added inclusion of "conf/distro/include/security_flags.conf" to "meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky-lsb.conf b/meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky-lsb.conf". You may want to change that to "conf/distro/include/security_flags.inc" as that is what the file is called.16:15
rburtonand this is why we should use "require"...16:17
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RPdvhart: thanks for clarifying that16:24
frayRP -- would it make sense to -not- generate the debug info on natives?16:26
fray(or generate minimal)?16:26
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zeddiiYPTM: Bruce has to drop.16:32
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RPzeddii: I can't wait for the kernel files filtering ;-)16:33
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RPhalstead: "burning" could be taken as a challenge by some people on the team :)16:35
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RPhalstead: sounds good, thanks for keeping it all working! :)16:37
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halsteadThank you RP. :)16:38
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Song_LiuYPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. Have a niceday/evening16:39
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RPSong_Liu: Thanks!16:42
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lpapphi, when I am flashing the rootfs generated by Yocto, I am experiencing this issue:18:04
lpappzcat /proc/config.gz  | grep 665018:04
lpapp# CONFIG_SENSORS_MAX6650 is not set18:04
lpappeven though our defconfig has it: CONFIG_SENSORS_MAX6650=y18:05
lpappwhat is happening?18:05
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lpappwe basically do not use the linux kernel package from core.18:07
lpappbecause we need to stick to a different version due to customization.18:08
lpappbut anyway, I thought defconfig changes should appear in the final rootfs imagE?18:08
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RPlpapp: if you take that defconfig and put it into a kernel tree, then run "make oldconfig", does it change the config options?18:13
RPlpapp: its possible the defconfig was adjusted as it wasn't 100% valid18:14
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lpappRP: no18:18
lpappI edited it manually.18:19
lpappperhaps I need to enable some deps as well18:19
lpappis there a simple way to do make menuconfig within the Yocto environment?18:19
RPlpapp: bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig18:20
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lpappRP: ERROR: No valid terminal found, unable to open devshell18:22
lpappERROR: Function failed: do_menuconfig18:22
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lpapphmm, I may need ncurses.18:24
lpapphmm, that is already installed in the debian chroot, strange.18:25
lpappWhat else could it be?18:25
RPlpapp: its trying to start a terminal of some kind, i.e. use screen, or some other terminal app (e.g. over X)18:25
lpappncurses-term maybe?18:26
RPlpapp: no, it needs to open a new window to handle the input/ouput18:26
lpappjust installed that package.18:26
lpappsame error.18:26
lpappwhy is it not working with sudo systemd-nspawn environment by default?18:26
RPlpapp: can you install screen?18:27
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lpappRP: yes18:29
lpappRP: http://pastebin.kde.org/p03379cen18:29
RPlpapp: try "screen -r devshell_20537"18:30
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lpappRP: the screen is hanging, so I cannot try.18:33
lpappand systemd-nspawn only allows one connection.18:34
lpappI will rerun this after running screen inside systemd-nspawn18:35
lpappRP: hmm, screen18:35
lpappCannot open your terminal '/dev/console' - please check.18:35
lpappperhaps something is not bound to the stuff from the real host?18:35
RPlpapp: yes, probably18:35
RPlpapp: it can use X based terminals too if some of those were available with a suitable DISPLAY setting18:35
RPlpapp: it just needs some way of multiplexing the terminal (since in theory you could have multiple targets specified)18:36
lpappI thought the whole deal with nspawn it sets up everything for you. :D18:36
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lpappRP: it is kind of strange.18:41
mr_sciencelpapp: sounds like your kernel should be the preferred one18:41
lpappmr_science: yes18:42
lpappbut if I cannot even configure it. :p18:42
mr_scienceyou did say the build defaults to a different kernel than the one you actually use, right?18:42
mr_sciencei'd try getting it set as your default and the dev-shell into it18:44
lpappthe problem is that I cannot use screen18:44
mr_sciencewhat about vnc and xterm?18:44
lpappI do not have vnc.18:45
lpappI only systemd-nspawn for now.18:45
mr_scienceso you have no way to dev-shell?18:45
mr_scienceset this in the appropriate machine include file:  PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "your_kernel"18:46
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mr_sciencethe manually bitbake -b kernel_recipe -c patch18:46
mr_sciencecd /path/to/work/dir and run make oldconfig and whatnot18:47
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lpappmr_science: I am not sure you are getting it, but I do not have screen access.18:58
lpappso I cannot run make menuconfig18:58
lpappand I would not like to patch the txt file manually since I apparently failed at that, already.18:58
lpappI would like to use the UI.18:58
lpappI guess I will need to figure out how to use screen or xterm with systemd-nspawn.18:58
lpappcurrently, I have no clue. :D18:59
lpappI thought it should just work (tm). :)18:59
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Glenn__Can someone give me pointers on how to use the gitsm fetcher for fetching submodules from a Git repository. I need an example of it's use?19:08
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Glenn__Anyone ever use the gitsm fetcher?19:15
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gonzzorGlenn__: I've used it..20:32
gonzzorGlenn__: I just changed the git:// to gitsm://20:33
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BCMMkergoth: is checking tmp/work/all-poky-linux/resolvconf/1.74-r0/image/ a good way to list all files installed by resolvconf?20:55
BCMMcause if so, it's putting nothing in /etc/network/if-up.d/, and also isn't installing anything with a bash shebang20:57
BCMM(although /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/resolvconf has no #!, and a comment saying it's a script fragment that uses bashisms)20:58
kergothther shouldn't be a schebang. schebangs are only of any use whatsoever for something executed directly20:59
kergoththose sorts of hooks are sourced, usually21:00
kergothbut if its not installing anything there, that sounds like a bug/oversight in the recipe/package, to me21:00
BCMMkergoth: yeah, comment says it is to be sourced by dhclient. i don't get how dhclient is supposed to know it's a bash script, though - does dhclient always use bash, or is it assuming that /bin/sh is bash?21:01
kergothdhclient knows what it is because of where it is21:02
kergothits hooks are shell scripots by definition21:03
kergothit doesn't support any arbitrary executable21:03
BCMMkergoth: i meant, bash as opposed to POSIX sh21:03
kergothI don't understand the question21:03
BCMMkergoth: but that was because i didn't realise that pulling it bash automatically makes the /bin/sh symlink point to it, so nm21:03
kergothif it's being sourced, then by definnition what's doing the sourcing is a shell script21:03
kergothand what that shell script is using depends on *its* schebang21:04
BCMMkergoth: i meant, "how does dhclient know to use bash, rather than BB sh", but that was because i hadn't realised that depending on bash changed /bin/sh to point to bash, rather than just making bash available as an alternative interpreter21:04
kergothif it did require bash, then it would have an appropriate shebang indicating that. bash can run posix sh scripts, just not vice versa. so bash replacing /bin/sh shouldn't harm a thing21:06
BCMMyeah, i only asked the question because i didn't realise the symlink was changed21:07
BCMMkergoth: did you say the hook should be installed in /etc/network/if-up.d/?21:10
kergothyep, at least thats where it goes on debian systems, shoudl be the same there21:12
BCMMthanks. debian's tarball (SRC_URI for the recipe) has a "resolvconf.000resolvconf.if-up", so it should just be one more install line. i'll see if i can fix it21:13
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kergothindeed. good luck with it21:19
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