| Smitty | How can something target x86 and magically not target qemu which supports x86 | 00:00 |
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| Smitty | so I changed the target to vanilla x86 | 00:00 |
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| RP | Smitty: but is that 586? 686? P4? | 00:01 |
| Smitty | those aren't options | 00:01 |
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| RP | Smitty: when you see architecture there its meaning more the target hardware configuration | 00:01 |
| Smitty | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.5/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-MACHINE | 00:01 |
| Smitty | the target options are specified by the MACHINE variabel, right ? | 00:02 |
| RP | Smitty: it specified which piece of target hardware (or emulation) you want to use the output on | 00:02 |
| RP | Anyhow, I'm afraid I need to sleep | 00:02 |
| RP | 'night! | 00:02 |
| Smitty | I quote the Quick Start Guide | 00:03 |
| Smitty | By default, the target architecture for the build is qemux86, which produces an image that can be used in the QEMU emulator and is targeted at an Intel® 32-bit based architecture. To change this default, edit the value of the MACHINE variable in the configuration file before launching the build. | 00:03 |
| Smitty | valid values of MACHINE are provided in here http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.5/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-MACHINE | 00:04 |
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| ausjke | can i list all rpm installed? rpm -qa errs | 03:06 |
| ausjke | i c it's a rpm from busybox that can only install pkg? | 03:06 |
| ausjke | sucks, comparing to dpkg | 03:08 |
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| Smitty | . | 08:19 |
| Smitty | skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libX11.so when searching for -lX11 | 08:19 |
| Smitty | Build error | 08:19 |
| Smitty | Just following Quick Start Guide. | 08:19 |
| Smitty | Why wouldn't Yocto be linking against its own toolchain or sysroot X11 ? | 08:20 |
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| Smitty | http://pastebin.com/Ls8qcpqu | 08:51 |
| Smitty | I'm confused | 08:51 |
| Smitty | Why is Yocto building ARM architecture when I am targetting qemu86 | 08:52 |
| Smitty | And why is it looking anywhere other than its sysroot for available link lbraries | 08:53 |
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| Smitty | Is anybody here ? | 09:15 |
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| Smitty | I am still no wiser after what I consider fairly extensive (over 1 hour) investigation into my build issue: http://pastebin.com/Ls8qcpqu | 12:20 |
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| Smitty_ | http://pastebin.com/2jvCf4DP | 12:23 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #50 of nightly-qa-systemd is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org:8011/builders/nightly-qa-systemd/builds/50 | 12:31 | |
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| Smigers | anyone home ? | 13:20 |
| Smigers | Please see: http://pastebin.com/2jvCf4DP | 13:21 |
| Smigers | I am really getting frustrated by this. I assume that the Quick Start Guide *should* work. I've followed the instructions exactly, three times in a row, and continue to run into trouble each time. | 13:22 |
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| Crofton|work | smartin, loks like it is catching libs from the build machine | 13:32 |
| Crofton|work | Smigers, that is | 13:32 |
| Crofton|work | that shoudn't ahppen | 13:32 |
| Smigers | I know | 13:32 |
| Crofton|work | not many people around over the weekend either | 13:33 |
| Smigers | The question is how it's even possible for such a huge error | 13:33 |
| Crofton|work | what distro is your build machine running | 13:33 |
| Smigers | Fedora 19 with latest updates | 13:33 |
| Crofton|work | weird | 13:33 |
| Crofton|work | same as me | 13:33 |
| Smigers | I'm willing to start over *again*. Is there anything other than the yocto source tree that I should wipe our | 13:34 |
| Smigers | out | 13:34 |
| Crofton|work | the build dir, but I think you are catching that | 13:34 |
| Crofton|work | but this is really weird | 13:34 |
| Smigers | I'll delete poky-dora-10.0.0, and extraxt the tar again, and just run through the quick start once more. | 13:35 |
| Smigers | that's all under poxy-dora right ? | 13:35 |
| Crofton|work | should be | 13:38 |
| Smigers | So, I'm not storing any kind of state in a hidden directory in HOME, or /etc, or somethign silly like that | 13:39 |
| Crofton|work | shouldn't be | 13:40 |
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| Smigers | During the build I see these types of warnings | 14:23 |
| Smigers | WARNING: Failed to fetch URL ftp://ftp.ossp.org/pkg/lib/uuid/uuid-1.6.2.tar.gz, attempting MIRRORS if available | 14:23 |
| Smigers | I Have tried to log into that server via ftp and get disconnected immediately | 14:23 |
| Smigers | Actually it seems quite a few of the links are out of date | 14:24 |
| Smigers | I am now failing to download from http://www.apache.org/dist/apr/apr-1.4.8.tar.bz2 | 14:24 |
| Smigers | Presumably I will see an error rather than a warning if the download can never be resolved | 14:25 |
| bluelightning | Smigers: correct, if it's just a warning, no need to worry | 14:31 |
| bluelightning | upstreams do disappear / remove versions from download quite often unfortunately, that's why we have mirrors | 14:31 |
| Smigers | Understood. Maybe contacting the host admin and asking for the package to be preserved so that the Quick Start Guide doesn't have to be constantly adjusted would be a good idea | 14:33 |
| Smigers | rahter I should say so that poky-10.0.0 recipes don't need to be maintained | 14:34 |
| Smigers | either that or host all the poky-10.0.0 packages on the Yocto server | 14:35 |
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| bluelightning | Smigers: well, we don't really need to update the qs guide in these instances because we automatically fall back to our mirror | 14:51 |
| Smigers | Ah | 14:51 |
| bluelightning | Smigers: we always have all sources available in our mirror - disk space is cheap ;) | 14:51 |
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| RP | dora build looks good on the AB at least... | 15:07 |
| bluelightning | RP: great stuff | 15:10 |
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| Smigers | Same problem: http://pastebin.com/U50EUDU5 | 15:19 |
| Smigers | Seems like a pretty fundamental error to me | 15:24 |
| Smigers | Why would y64 even be built if I am targetting i586 running under qemu ? | 15:25 |
| Smigers | x64 | 15:25 |
| Smigers | TARGET_SYS = "i586-poky-linux" | 15:26 |
| Smigers | MACHINE = "qemux86" | 15:26 |
| Smigers | or is it trying to build qemu for my host machine ? | 15:27 |
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| Smigers | OK, looking through the Yocto release logs, it seems that Fedora 19 was a problematic build host platform until more recent releases of yocto. I'm-a try latest yocto rather than the prescribed version in the Quick Start Guide. | 15:37 |
| Smigers | Actually, they are the same version | 15:42 |
| Smigers | OK, so, now I am totally confused. | 15:42 |
| Smigers | OK, it seems that for some reason the link line is not finding the 64 bit libX, rather it finds the 32 bit version, and then says it's no goo (obviously) | 15:52 |
| Smigers | where would I adjust that so that it points to the right place. | 15:53 |
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| Smigers | I find this system completely unfathomable. TO the point where I am beginning to doubt that it works. | 16:09 |
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| nerdboy | hmm, toolchain with fortran/java seems a little incomplete | 17:17 |
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| nerdboy | what's the proper bugzilla product for a toolchain bug? | 17:28 |
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| nerdboy | building another crossdev toolchain with java... | 18:00 |
| sgw_ | nerdboy: oecore/devtools | 18:00 |
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| nerdboy | thx | 18:06 |
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| * nerdboy <= ignoring oe-classic homework | 18:07 | |
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| nerdboy | damn that little x86 vm is fast... | 18:10 |
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| flihp | is there a way to manipulate bb variables like 'SRC_URI' from shell functions or do I need to use python i.e. d.appendVar? | 18:16 |
| kergoth` | shell functions are run at task execution time, not parse time | 18:17 |
| kergoth` | so it wouldn't make much sense for them to be able to alter bitbake metadata | 18:18 |
| kergoth` | what would it affect? | 18:18 |
| kergoth` | if you just want to *use* the variable, just dereference it with ${SRC_URI} | 18:18 |
| kergoth` | if you need to alter it, you can use inline python | 18:18 |
| kergoth` | ${@','.join(SRC_URI.split())} or whatever | 18:18 |
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| flihp | thanks kergoth, very clear | 18:19 |
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| kergoth` | np | 18:20 |
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| nerdboy | no gcj out of crossdev either, at least using the native 4.6.4 i built a while back, which apparently doesn't have it enabled... | 18:30 |
| nerdboy | let's try that again | 18:32 |
| kergoth` | crossdev, that's the gentoo cross toolchain generator, or the ubuntu one? | 18:32 |
| kergoth` | I just installed windows 3.11 in dosbox, with the right drivers to run it in 1024x768 and all, installed quicktime and video for windows.. now for trumpet winsock to get internet working in there :D | 18:34 |
| * kergoth` is in a nostalgic mood | 18:34 | |
| nerdboy | you're one big giant mystery... | 18:35 |
| * kergoth` chuckles | 18:35 | |
| nerdboy | crossdev is the gentoo version of crosstool | 18:35 |
| kergoth` | ahh, right | 18:35 |
| kergoth` | cool | 18:35 |
| nerdboy | rebuilding gcc with java, then try cross with java again | 18:35 |
| nerdboy | and i don't see the ecj-4.x.jar file in poky downloads either | 18:37 |
| nerdboy | might it be missing that dep? | 18:37 |
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| nerdboy | seems like it should work as long as c++ is also enabled and the lib source is available | 18:41 |
| nerdboy | boy do you get a buttload of javax/swing headers if you enable java and gtk | 19:00 |
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| nerdboy | that looks like a fail for crossdev and gcj | 20:32 |
| nerdboy | it did build all the fortran stuff, but no java | 20:32 |
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| nerdboy | tags no longer work as a git SRCREV? hmmm... | 21:35 |
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| Smigers | Please help | 22:34 |
| Smigers | http://pastebin.com/598mjykJ | 22:34 |
| Smigers | I cannot understand how this could be happening without Yocto itself being completely broken | 22:34 |
| Crofton|work | have you tried some other machines? | 22:35 |
| Smigers | I've already targetted qemux86, and this time qemux86-64 | 22:36 |
| Crofton|work | try setting MACHINE to beagleboard | 22:36 |
| Crofton|work | I am grasping at straws, becuase I do not understand how something that should be that well test will find things on the build machine | 22:37 |
| Smigers | Why ? | 22:37 |
| Smigers | I don't have a beagleboard, and it's not the target | 22:37 |
| Crofton|work | so tryin gan arm target might give us some clues | 22:37 |
| Crofton|work | I know | 22:37 |
| Crofton|work | see the "I am grasping at straws" | 22:37 |
| Smigers | Sure, I appreciate the help | 22:37 |
| Crofton|work | I want to see if we can make anything work | 22:37 |
| Smigers | BUT, If it can't do the Quick Start Guide , which should be absolutely tested, why would I ever imagine it could do some other variant | 22:38 |
| Crofton|work | Yes, this is very curious | 22:39 |
| Smigers | More than curious | 22:39 |
| Smigers | Almost like none of this really works | 22:39 |
| Crofton|work | annoying, most of the people that care about that particular path aren't usually around on weekends | 22:39 |
| Smigers | That particualr path is the test system | 22:40 |
| Smigers | if I can't build the cannonical system, why would I do anything else | 22:40 |
| Crofton|work | just try the beaglebone | 22:41 |
| Crofton|work | er board :) | 22:41 |
| Crofton|work | your ip suggests you are in .de? | 22:41 |
| Crofton|work | can you try asking on Monday morning? | 22:42 |
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| Smigers | Sure, Monday is not a problem. But, How could this be broken. I'm doing nothing but trying to follow the QSG. How could that not work on a supported environment ? | 22:44 |
| Smigers | It makes me think worry that actually none of it is correctly tested. I really have to wonder about the standard of the developer when I can't even follow the basic example. | 22:46 |
| Smigers | without an error occuring | 22:47 |
| nerdboy | Smigers: what branch are you on? | 22:53 |
| Smigers | what do you mean ? | 22:53 |
| nerdboy | meta-yocto-bsp = "<unknown>:<unknown>" | 22:53 |
| Smigers | how do I tell yout the answer to that question | 22:53 |
| nerdboy | did you try master or one of the other branches? | 22:53 |
| nerdboy | git status in your poky/oe dirs | 22:54 |
| Smigers | I don't understand the question | 22:54 |
| Smigers | ?? | 22:54 |
| Smigers | Please, if you are asking me to do something, be precise. | 22:55 |
| nerdboy | you followed the quickstart and downloaded a tarball? | 22:55 |
| Smigers | yes | 22:55 |
| nerdboy | hmm, haven't tried that... | 22:55 |
| Smigers | What ? | 22:56 |
| nerdboy | tarball | 22:56 |
| Smigers | How did you possibly get started without using some kind of documentation. | 22:56 |
| nerdboy | would you like to try the cloning the layers? | 22:56 |
| Smigers | Did you just guess your way though the whole process | 22:57 |
| nerdboy | no, i followed the readme | 22:57 |
| Smigers | Idiotic | 22:57 |
| nerdboy | https://github.com/sarnold/meta-raspberrypi/blob/master/README | 22:57 |
| Smigers | I follow the instructions that are presented to me on the documentation page | 22:58 |
| Smigers | Why would I ever do anything other than that | 22:58 |
| nerdboy | i'm just talking building from git clones instead of the tarball | 22:58 |
| Smigers | What would compell me to do that | 22:58 |
| nerdboy | then you can switch branches between different releases | 22:58 |
| Smigers | how would I even know that that was an option | 22:59 |
| Smigers | That is simply stupidity | 22:59 |
| nerdboy | it's in the regular docs, just not the quickstart i guess | 22:59 |
| Smigers | I am following the documentation. If the docs are wrong the whole project is wrong | 23:00 |
| nerdboy | you're following one version of one doc | 23:00 |
| Smigers | the proect "lives" in the documentation | 23:00 |
| kergoth` | the quickstart guide is only part of the yocto documentation | 23:00 |
| kergoth` | there are other documents | 23:00 |
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| Smigers | I am following the documentation on the most significant link of the main page of the Yocto project web site# | 23:01 |
| kergoth | regardless, I don't think continuous complaints are going to resolve your problem any faster | 23:01 |
| Smigers | That's a bullshit respone | 23:01 |
| nerdboy | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#intro-getit | 23:01 |
| kergoth | Yet, completely accurate | 23:01 |
| Smigers | I want to learn | 23:01 |
| Smigers | but I am unable to learn from the provided documentation | 23:02 |
| kergoth | you haven't bothered to read all the documentation | 23:02 |
| nerdboy | "You can set up the Source Directory by downloading a Yocto Project release tarball and unpacking it, or by cloning a copy of the upstream Poky Git repository" | 23:02 |
| nerdboy | try method #2 | 23:02 |
| Smigers | Why would I try method #2 when method #1 fails in ways that are totally stupid | 23:03 |
| nerdboy | because method 1 fails maybe? | 23:03 |
| Smigers | Method 1 fails, so I am expected to continue to waste my time following another method which might also fail ? | 23:04 |
| nerdboy | while you were complaining i just tried bitbake qemu-native -c build and it builds fine | 23:04 |
| Smigers | Sorr, I can't belive it | 23:05 |
| nerdboy | you're the one who said you wanted to learn | 23:05 |
| nerdboy | maybe uncorking your attitude would help | 23:05 |
| nerdboy | NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 164 tasks of which 137 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded. | 23:05 |
| Smigers | Please list the "exact" steps that you took to build | 23:05 |
| nerdboy | see method #2 | 23:06 |
| nerdboy | i have git clones i just updated today | 23:06 |
| Smigers | NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 5075 tasks of which 5074 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. | 23:06 |
| nerdboy | usually build off master, but you're free to build a release branch | 23:06 |
| Smigers | I'm trying to follow the QSG | 23:07 |
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| Smigers | if that doesn't work, I assume the whole prodict is crap | 23:07 |
| nerdboy | maybe the quickstart is out of date, aor maybe that particular tarball is borked | 23:07 |
| nerdboy | or maybe your build env isn't sane | 23:07 |
| nerdboy | i have no idea | 23:08 |
| Smigers | How could my build env be not sane if I am following the QSG | 23:08 |
| nerdboy | normal stuff builds fine for most people, so obviously something is amiss | 23:09 |
| Smigers | Please, I beg you. Start our on a vanilla Fedora x86-64 machine. The follow the QSG, and let me know how you progress | 23:09 |
| nerdboy | i build on gentoo/debian/ubuntu | 23:10 |
| nerdboy | don't have fedora handy | 23:10 |
| Smigers | Great. Das hilft mich ncht | 23:10 |
| nerdboy | but other people do | 23:10 |
| Smigers | do it on a virtua machine | 23:11 |
| nerdboy | try pasting the output of bitbake -e | 23:11 |
| nerdboy | i native/chroot/vm setups, still don't have any fedora... | 23:12 |
| nerdboy | *have | 23:12 |
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| Smigers | So I tried to past the output, but there some much of it that it fails. | 23:18 |
| Smigers | Even in a pastebin | 23:18 |
| nerdboy | and you have all host packages installed listed here? http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#required-packages-for-the-host-development-system | 23:20 |
| Smigers | WTF is all that ? | 23:23 |
| Smigers | I have just run that and suddenöly it seems I neeed to insatall 200 Mb of packages | 23:23 |
| Smigers | Yet, I have all the dependeincies specified in the QSG | 23:24 |
| Smigers | So, are you saying the QSG is a completely irrelevent piece of dreck, or what ? | 23:24 |
| Smigers | And anyway, none of those packages provide the missing X11 library anyway | 23:25 |
| bluelightning | er, that's the same info that's in the quick start guide, just broken out for specific use cases... | 23:25 |
| Smigers | no | 23:25 |
| Smigers | it is not | 23:25 |
| bluelightning | it is, I wrote it... | 23:26 |
| Smigers | buull | 23:26 |
| Smigers | Sorry | 23:26 |
| bluelightning | well, I provided the list at any rate | 23:26 |
| Smigers | It is simply wrong to say that | 23:26 |
| bluelightning | where are you looking then? | 23:26 |
| Smigers | I followed the QSG verbatim 5 times | 23:26 |
| Smigers | and ever time I fail at the same place | 23:26 |
| bluelightning | no, where in the quick start guide are you getting a list that is different from that given in the link above? | 23:26 |
| Smigers | I am following this QSG: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html | 23:27 |
| Smigers | exactly as written | 23:28 |
| bluelightning | right, and the list of packages given there is the exactly the same as "Essentials" and "Graphical Extras" in the reference manual section linked above | 23:29 |
| Smigers | What ? | 23:29 |
| Smigers | The essential and graphical packages you need for a supported Fedora distribution are shown in the following command: | 23:30 |
| Smigers | $ sudo yum install gawk make wget tar bzip2 gzip python unzip perl patch \ | 23:30 |
| Smigers | diffutils diffstat git cpp gcc gcc-c++ glibc-devel texinfo chrpath \ | 23:30 |
| Smigers | ccache perl-Data-Dumper perl-Text-ParseWords SDL-devel xterm | 23:30 |
| Smigers | I did that | 23:30 |
| bluelightning | right, so then you should have all that is needed installed | 23:31 |
| Smigers | But clearly I don't | 23:31 |
| Smigers | So, rather than blame me, why not try it yourself | 23:31 |
| bluelightning | I'm not blaming you | 23:32 |
| Smigers | so, What is wrong | 23:32 |
| bluelightning | I'm not sure, I can tell you I have done builds on F19 and not seen that error | 23:33 |
| bluelightning | I can try one now | 23:33 |
| Smigers | And besides.....If all these stupid things are required, why doesn't the yocto build resolve and download them itself | 23:33 |
| Smigers | this is childs play | 23:34 |
| bluelightning | we do download and build a lot of tools, but for some things it is better for the host system to provide them | 23:35 |
| Smigers | I have a Cmakae system that lets me do all of this already. BUT for some stupid marketing reason I am forced to used Yocto - bperhaps because the name is cute, or perhaps because my comapny has to kowtow to the Japanese - I am supposed to use Yocto. But from what I can see it provides absolutely nothing but more chaos and broken 'crap' that I have to deal with. | 23:36 |
| Smigers | BS on you last statement | 23:37 |
| bluelightning | you know, if you want help from people you'd do well to be a bit more polite | 23:37 |
| Smigers | If you need it, you download it | 23:37 |
| Smigers | Come on | 23:37 |
| Smigers | I'm really trying here | 23:37 |
| Smigers | But I'm getting completely frustrated with this | 23:38 |
| bluelightning | I can see that | 23:38 |
| Smigers | Yocto should be able to resolve everythign it needs | 23:38 |
| Smigers | why doesn't it do that | 23:38 |
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| Smigers | My own, homegrown CMake system does that already | 23:38 |
| bluelightning | it's not that simple | 23:39 |
| Smigers | really ? | 23:39 |
| bluelightning | yes really | 23:39 |
| Smigers | Why not ? | 23:39 |
| bluelightning | look, I'm in here on my weekend, if you want help with your problem I will try to help, but I'm not going to go through everything justifying it, sorry | 23:40 |
| Smigers | I appreciate that | 23:40 |
| Smigers | I understand completely | 23:40 |
| Smigers | I am on my own time too | 23:40 |
| Smigers | So, let's work together to try to figure this lunacy out | 23:41 |
| Smigers | Can you do voice ? | 23:42 |
| bluelightning | no, I'm afraid not | 23:43 |
| Smigers | OK | 23:43 |
| Smigers | Well, how do we progress ? | 23:43 |
| bluelightning | I'm starting a build here now | 23:43 |
| Smigers | what build ? | 23:44 |
| Smigers | I am running x86-64 Fedora 19 and would like to target qemux86-64 | 23:44 |
| Smigers | Now, why I would specify qemux86-64 rather than simply x86-64, I must admist I really don't understand | 23:45 |
| bluelightning | that's just what the machine is called | 23:46 |
| Smigers | Yeh, it's dumb. | 23:46 |
| bluelightning | it isn't | 23:46 |
| Smigers | qemu is an emulator | 23:46 |
| Smigers | if I buld an x86 I expect qemu to run it | 23:46 |
| Smigers | if I buld x86-64 I also expect qemu to run it | 23:47 |
| bluelightning | we have qemux86-64 and genericx86-64; the distinction (mainly level of functionality) is a useful one | 23:47 |
| Smigers | if I build zilog6800, the of course I would expect a problem find a VM that can run that | 23:48 |
| Smigers | but if it is a supported target, it should buld, regardless of my ability to actually run the target | 23:48 |
| Smigers | do you understand ? | 23:50 |
| bluelightning | I agree, it should build, but I don't think this has anything to do with the failure | 23:51 |
| Smigers | I do | 23:51 |
| Smigers | The failure is really fundamental | 23:51 |
| bluelightning | it's apparently failing to find an appropriate libx11 on your system, though it thinks it should be there | 23:52 |
| Smigers | Exactly. | 23:52 |
| Smigers | If it needs a specific version of X11, it should FREAKING build it | 23:53 |
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| Smigers | hpw complicated is that | 23:53 |
| Smigers | that's what thwe whole damned system is about | 23:53 |
| Smigers | When I buld for a target, I want the buld system to resolve the target dependencies | 23:54 |
| Smigers | I shouldn't have to resolve them myselve | 23:54 |
| bluelightning | that doesn't work; we've had problems trying to do that in the past; I don't know the full details off the top of my head | 23:54 |
| bluelightning | no of course you shouldn't have this failure, but every piece of software has bugs | 23:55 |
| Smigers | Really | 23:55 |
| Smigers | that's a üretty fundamental bug | 23:55 |
| Smigers | module ZZZ required libX (version ???) and doesn't resolve it ???? | 23:56 |
| Smigers | WTF is the build system doiing if it isnt't doing that | 23:56 |
| bluelightning | well, if we run test builds on F19 (and our QA team does regularly) and we don't see this error, then how would we know to go and fix it? | 23:56 |
| Smigers | No, you are missing the point | 23:57 |
| Smigers | Everything is resolvable | 23:57 |
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| Smigers | the whole point of a build system like Yocto is that it takes this resolution issue away from the developer | 23:58 |
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| Smigers | I sould not have to worry about resolving the dependencies of a module that I include | 23:58 |
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| Smigers | that's what Yocto is supposed to be doing for me | 23:59 |
| bluelightning | this is not a missing dependency though | 23:59 |
| Smigers | Let'S be clear | 23:59 |
| Smigers | I am typing this on my "host machine" | 23:59 |
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