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| weebet | Using autotools to compile my custom software, what is the best way to include library directory in Makefile.am ? ( I plan to use something like : soft_LDFLAGS = -lfcgi -lpq -lpqxx -L/usr/local/pgsql/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/local/lib ) Will I have to bypass the LDFLAGS from the Makefile in the recipe ? | 04:54 |
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| nerdboy | weebet: not sure what you're asking | 05:31 |
| nerdboy | your default LDFLAGS in Makefile.am and only override in the recipe if necessary | 05:32 |
| nerdboy | *put | 05:32 |
| nerdboy | i would do the makefile.am as if for a "normal" native build | 05:34 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 11:11 |
| Xz | hi there | 11:11 |
| Xz | initrdscripts - I'm using initramfs-live-boot_1.0.bb | 11:12 |
| Xz | it says DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel" | 11:12 |
| Xz | RDEPENDS_${PN} = "udev udev-extraconf" | 11:12 |
| Xz | only | 11:12 |
| Xz | and somehow busybox finds its way into the image as well | 11:12 |
| Xz | who pulls in busybox into that initramfs? | 11:13 |
| Xz | initramfs-framework? | 11:14 |
| Xz | well, initramfs-framework RDEPENDS on busybox, so that would be my guess | 11:14 |
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| weebet | nerdboy to link against the library, I have to override ldflags in the recipe to point where ? In staging area ? -L${STAGING_DIR}/usr/local/pgsql/lib | 12:46 |
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| kbart | Is fbsplash available in Yocto? Can't find it.. Or some other lightweight program to display .ppm image on FB. | 14:15 |
| bluelightning | kbart: psplash should do that | 14:21 |
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| kbart | bluelightning, thanks, I'll check it out. | 14:29 |
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| weebet | when using autotools, how to override the cflags, ldflags and ldadd ? | 14:47 |
| ndec | weebet: you mean override from within the recipe? | 14:49 |
| weebet | ndec: yes, within the recipe. My software needs to load 4-5 libraries from other package | 14:49 |
| ndec | just do CFLAGS += then, in the recipe outside of any function. | 14:50 |
| ndec | you can do that for any variable that is set by bitbake in the run script. | 14:50 |
| weebet | I bet same for LDFLAGS and LDADD ? and I have to point to the staging dir area ? | 14:50 |
| kergoth | that said, the default search paths will include the sysroot where the other recipe will have put its libs, unless it put them in non-standard locations | 14:51 |
| ndec | LDFLAGS, yet, since i am using it. LDADD i don't know. | 14:51 |
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| weebet | thank you kergoth and ndec | 14:51 |
| ndec | np. | 14:51 |
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| Xz | what is the difference between 'bitbake image -c populate_sdk' and using ADT? Is ADT some generic toolchain? | 15:02 |
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| kergoth | adt == sysroot + eclipse plugin + qemu, as the documentation states at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/adt-manual/adt-manual.html#adt-intro-section | 15:06 |
| Crofton|work | I assume ADT can use toolchains made with populate_sdk? | 15:08 |
| kergoth | that's a good question :) | 15:09 |
| ndec | adt includes the toolchain, and i am assuming that's the same toolchain that can be built with populate_sdk. | 15:10 |
| ndec | no? | 15:10 |
| * kergoth shrugs, never used it personally, one would hope so | 15:13 | |
| fray | there are multiple parts to the ADT.... | 15:13 |
| fray | but ya, the populate_sdk toolchain can be used with the ADT components.. | 15:14 |
| fray | been a while since I used Eclipse though | 15:14 |
| RP | ndec: its the same pieces, yes | 15:14 |
| ndec | ok, that's what i thought... that makes sense | 15:15 |
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| Crofton|work | I need to learn about eclipse etc | 15:16 |
| Crofton|work | so I can explain it to people | 15:16 |
| ndec | well, my position is to avoid learning about it, so that I don't have to explain to anyone ... | 15:17 |
| ndec | i am using the SDK thought, but not the GUI stuff. | 15:17 |
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| Crofton|work | we have stupid customers :) | 15:19 |
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| Crofton|work | I am having great success with the sdk though | 15:19 |
| ndec | who hopefull aren't on irc. | 15:19 |
| Crofton|work | :) | 15:19 |
| Crofton|work | where the definition of stupid is people who are comfortbale in guis :) | 15:19 |
| ndec | it's not as if the channel was logged ;-) | 15:19 |
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| Crofton|work | which is funny, because I completely suck at gui code dev | 15:20 |
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| kergoth | we did something pretty interesting on that front, we created a script that converts an ipk feed into a p2 repository, so you can pick and choose binary packages to install into a sysroot relative to the eclipse install it's being installed into. alternative to a monolithic sdk, delivery mechanism wise, between the person running bitbake and the hypothetical application developer running eclipse | 15:28 |
| kergoth | use the eclipse add/remove software dialog to install the packages from the feed | 15:28 |
| fray | kergoth sounds interesting.. | 15:29 |
| fray | I've definitely had questions about doing that kind of thing.. (then people usually use eclipse once and go, umm ya.... back to the CLI) ;) | 15:29 |
| kergoth | not perfect, it only sets up one sysroot atm, so native/nativesdk aren't available, but it's a different approach | 15:29 |
| Crofton|work | I had a friend "fix" an sdk by building the missing package and installing it into the unpakced sdk :) | 15:29 |
| fray | Crofton|work, ya thats the 'normal' way we hack things if needed.. | 15:29 |
| fray | but between the sstate-cache and the SDK based on filesystems.. 90% of the problems are gone.. | 15:30 |
| fray | it's the other 10% where the stuff like Kergoth mentioned would be nice | 15:30 |
| kergoth | downside to the script at the moment is it's written in python, not java, so it hardcodes knowledge of the p2 repository format and metadata, rather than emitting the java objects into xml which would be the maintainable way.. | 15:30 |
| * kergoth nods | 15:30 | |
| kergoth | I'm not sure how useful it *really* is, as I haven't heard much customer feedback, but yeah, something to ponder.. | 15:31 |
| fray | I'm hoping as the 'Toaster' progresses, that that stuff will be less and less needed.. | 15:31 |
| kergoth | indeed | 15:34 |
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| weebet | in my makefile.am I have AM_LDFLAGS = with native compilation directory (ie: /usr/local/pgsql/lib). In my recipe I use LDFLAGS += ${STAGING_DIR}/usr/local/pgsql/lib . When I run bitbake, it complains that /usr/local/pgsql/lib is unsafe for crosscompiling. How can I do to solve this issue ? | 15:39 |
| rburton | don't do that :) use configure.ac to find the pgsql library | 15:40 |
| weebet | I am scared that if I write in my recipe LDFLAGS = ${STAGING_DIR}.... I will miss some cross compilation information | 15:40 |
| weebet | rburton: how can I do that ? | 15:41 |
| rburton | weebet: if the library supports it, ideally using pkg-config. ie PKG_CHECK_MODULES(PQ, libpq). that defines PQ_CFLAGS and PQ_LIBS | 15:42 |
| weebet | rburton: nice hint. Thank you | 15:44 |
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| Zaif | What could be the reason for " Error: apriltags not found in the base feeds" ? apriltags is my own recipe.. | 16:11 |
| Zaif | when I did bitbake apriltags it was successful but when i try to bitbake console-image, i get this error | 16:12 |
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| gjohnson | I have a best practices question. I want to build my custom image for my target hardware and for qemu so developers can do desktop development. Should I use the same build directory for both and just select a different machine on the command line or should I use different build directories and just have separate local.conf files? | 16:28 |
| kergoth | there really isn't a best practice for that. either mode of operation should work fine | 16:29 |
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| gjohnson | kergoth: thanks | 16:30 |
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| kergoth | Anyone tried building meta-ivi with master? | 17:00 |
| kergoth | seems the dbus update changed its api and broke common-api-c++-dbus | 17:00 |
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| rburton | dbus's api should have been stable unless that was using private api | 17:02 |
| kergoth | not sure | 17:05 |
| kergoth | error: 'dbus_message_set_body_length' was not declared | 17:05 |
| kergoth | is the particular issue | 17:05 |
| kergoth | don't know that it was an api change, just seems likely with the error | 17:05 |
| weebet | I am nearly done with my first package, 3 more to go ! but I have a strange problem. bitbake tells me that my non debug package contain .debug directory (autotool package). yes, I don't know why it is creating a debug directory. what could be the problem ? | 17:05 |
| bluelightning | Zaif: most likely is that the apriltags package ended up being empty and thus was never produced | 17:08 |
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| bluelightning | weebet: just do FILES_${PN}-dbg += "<path to .debug dir>" | 17:09 |
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| weebet | why does autotool build debug. I don't want the debug information | 17:11 |
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| kergoth | it isn't autotools. we pass in cflags to ensure it happens, then we split it out into a separate binary package. thus its available if you want it, but doesn't cause much harm | 17:13 |
| weebet | thank you kergoth and bluelightning | 17:13 |
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| weebet | even if I run ./configure and make native on my PC. I see there is a -g added to the g++ command. | 17:20 |
| rburton | bitbake will run over all binaries produced and split out the debug sections | 17:20 |
| rburton | so they get packaged separately | 17:20 |
| rburton | (fwiw, almost every distro does this) | 17:21 |
| rburton | kergoth: that's a meta-ivi addition | 17:21 |
| Zaif | bluelightning: Thank you for the hint. Yes, the package is empty, will change the recipe | 17:22 |
| rburton | kergoth: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-ivi/tree/recipes-core-ivi/dbus/dbus/dbus-DBusMessage-add-support-for-custom-marshaling.patch#n146 | 17:22 |
| kergoth | yeah, saw that, i missed the bbappend warning :) | 17:23 |
| kergoth | thanks | 17:23 |
| * kergoth muttersa nd rolls eyes | 17:23 | |
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| * kergoth beats on meta-ivi | 17:23 | |
| rburton | kergoth: good man. with a pointy stick, i hope. | 17:24 |
| kergoth | indeed! | 17:24 |
| * kergoth thinks about adapting the meta-mentor setup scripts into a bb-configure-layers script, which could add/remove specific layers, by name or path, and all layers which provide a requested machine, to the existing bblayers, and reorder them by BBFILE_PRIORITY | 17:27 | |
| kergoth | Ah, I see, dbus, among other bbappends, are fixed in an outstanding meta-ivi patchset which was posted 10 days ago, but which still hasn't been applied | 17:29 |
| kergoth | and naturally meta-ivi master doesn't build as a result at this time | 17:29 |
| * kergoth mutters some more | 17:30 | |
| * kergoth temporarily forks | 17:30 | |
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| gjohnson | Has anyone used qemu arm with a machine other than versatilepb so that you can have a memory larger than 128M? How would I go about using something different? | 17:45 |
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| weebet | adding this to the recipe : FILES_${PN}-dbg += "${WORKDIR}/packages-split/fcgi/usr/bin/" I get the same error ( QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: .... | 17:49 |
| Crofton|work | tlwoerner, see kergoth meta-ivi muttering :) | 17:49 |
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| kergoth | heh :) | 18:07 |
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| lpapp | rburton: bluelightning hi | 18:16 |
| lpapp | what is the best way to develop a software that have dependencies? | 18:17 |
| lpapp | developing within Yocto does not seem to be easy | 18:17 |
| lpapp | but if I develop outside, I would need to add the Yocto environment to the software, like include path, library path, etc. | 18:17 |
| lpapp | that is a bit weird, too. | 18:17 |
| lpapp | is the SDK creation meant to address such cases, or what? | 18:17 |
| rburton | yes | 18:18 |
| lpapp | In case of Linux, this is of course not a problem since Linux does not really have dependencies other than toolchain stuff. | 18:18 |
| lpapp | so the best way would be to create a minimal SDK? | 18:18 |
| lpapp | containing all the necessary libs, like openssl, etc, and the headers? | 18:19 |
| lpapp | rburton: bluelightning ^ | 18:19 |
| rburton | bitbake my-image -c populate_sdk | 18:19 |
| lpapp | rburton: what will that do? | 18:20 |
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| rburton | populate a SDK from your image | 18:20 |
| lpapp | so it will give an SDK installer? | 18:20 |
| lpapp | or it will create a path for me where I would need to clone my project into? | 18:20 |
| mr_science | it makes a giant sdk tarball | 18:22 |
| mr_science | which is your sysroot for building outside of bitbake | 18:22 |
| lpapp | OK, so basically anyone developing software on top of Yocto is using SDK, right? | 18:23 |
| lpapp | I mean that is the intended design decision to address this use case? | 18:23 |
| lpapp | so creating the SDK is not rarity when someone develops a software on top of the base Yocto system? | 18:23 |
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| mr_science | pretty much | 18:26 |
| mr_science | meta-toolchain gives you the basic cross-toolchain and do_populate_sdk gives you the toolchain plus all your image depends | 18:26 |
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| lpapp | thanks. | 18:29 |
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| tlwoerner | Crofton|work: kergoth: wonderful!! :-D | 18:32 |
| tlwoerner | i'm surprised nobody replied a couple days ago when i emailed that maybe the layer handling should/could be (partially at least) moved out of the hands of the user | 18:33 |
| * kergoth must have missed that thread | 18:34 | |
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| tlwoerner | https://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org/msg47868.html | 18:36 |
| kergoth | for what its worth, mentor uses repo and custom setup scripts too :) | 18:39 |
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| kergoth | tlwoerner: oe-lite handles this in a slightly interesting way. they use a higher level tool called oe, and it not only is used to do builds, but also to clone their own internally handled manifest, which includes a bitbake format config file that describes the layers and versions to clone down. oe clone; cd foo; oe bake blah | 18:44 |
| kergoth | wheel reinvention, yes, but at least its integrated and officlal to the project.. | 18:45 |
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| tlwoerner | kergoth: thanks! i had never heard of oe-lite | 18:46 |
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| kergoth | it was originally an oe/bitbake fork, but they went their own way with a lot of things | 18:46 |
| Crofton|work | I wish he'd call it something else | 18:47 |
| kergoth | some of it is quite interesting | 18:47 |
| kergoth | agreed | 18:47 |
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| seebs | I just got bitten by a quirk wherein a variable name happened to end with an _override. | 22:01 |
| seebs | And it occurs to me to wonder: How much harm, if any, would be done by leaving the original full names around also when a variable is determined to be a possible override? | 22:01 |
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| kergoth | seebs: thats what we used to do, iirc | 22:27 |
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| seebs | Also, I would be much happier if the diagnostics from things like get_machine_branch in the kernel recipes tree gave slightly better insight on what they were trying to do which failed. | 22:37 |
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| pev | Anyone know how the symlinks in tmp/deploy/images get created? I'm generating .md5 files in there as well but not sure how to get the symlinks to update too... | 23:25 |
| kergoth | read image.bbclass and see the IMAGE_FSTYPE variables | 23:30 |
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| pev | kergoth: Hmm.... Still a bit puzzled - so should I be defining md5 as an image type as well? Or am I trying to do something a bit outside the scope of how things are intended to work? | 23:36 |
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