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shadow_ShangHai | Hello, Can anyone help me build qt environment on yocto build core-image-sato? | 08:16 |
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shadow_ShangHai | I want to run qt application on yocto build which actually runs on a atom-arch machine | 08:17 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: which version of Qt? for Qt5 you can use meta-qt5 which is hosted on github | 08:17 |
shadow_ShangHai | Can you point out some steps to do it? | 08:17 |
shadow_ShangHai | I am still new to yocto project | 08:18 |
shadow_ShangHai | qt5 is an priority option | 08:18 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5 | 08:20 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: you clone it and add it to your bblayers.conf | 08:20 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: then you can do things like bitbake qtbase | 08:20 |
shadow_ShangHai | What result can I get by doing bitbake qtbase | 08:22 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: You will build qtbase. To end in your image it needs to be installed. Either by you modifying an image/packagegroup | 08:23 |
shadow_ShangHai | how can I install it? | 08:25 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: is that a university project? Maybe look at how core-image-sato works and then figure out how to add more packages to the images? | 08:26 |
shadow_ShangHai | Ok, I've read the reference mannual, but didn't quite understand | 08:27 |
shadow_ShangHai | yes, I am a student working on it recently. | 08:28 |
zecke | shadow_ShangHai: then read and study the recipes. There is nothing like learning by yourself | 08:28 |
shadow_ShangHai | Thanks. I will dig the answer out. | 08:30 |
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mckoan | good morning | 09:14 |
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alexVaduva | hello everyone, why is the '\n' put in files like 'meta-yocto/conf/distro/poky.conf' when refering to things like SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS or MIRRORS? | 10:03 |
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fsdun | Moin | 13:06 |
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fsdun | is it possible to define a defconfig inside ${S} if I use kernel-yocto? | 13:17 |
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fsdun | looks like do_kernel_configme_prepend isn't executed | 13:29 |
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anda | Hi. I am trying to build an image with the kernel 3.14 on the nitrogen6x board. For this I editet the local.conf and added PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-yocto-dev". But the kernel version was still 3.0.35. Can someone point me in a direction? | 13:56 |
fsdun | anda, maybe you need to check if PREFERRED_VERSION is set correctly | 14:03 |
fsdun | see u later | 14:03 |
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mckoan | fsdun: linux-yocto-dev won't run on nitrogen6x | 14:16 |
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #14 of buildtools is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/buildtools/builds/14 | 14:36 | |
kergoth | alexVaduva: \n is required as the separator for things like MIRRORS because spaces are allowed, and required, within a single mirror entry, so using whitespace as an entry separator wouldn't make any sense. newline makes sense, and is a character we know won't be used within a mirror entry | 14:37 |
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Jefro | YPTM Jefro is here | 15:00 |
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zeddii | YPTM: Bruce is on the call.' | 15:00 |
sjolley | Dial-in number: 1.972.995.7777 US Toll Free number: 1.877.561.6828 BlackBerry users, click this link to join your conference as a participant: 1.972.995.7777x42001078# | 15:00 |
sjolley | YPTM: Dial-in number: 1.972.995.7777 US Toll Free number: 1.877.561.6828 BlackBerry users, click this link to join your conference as a participant: 1.972.995.7777x42001078# | 15:00 |
valic | YPTM: Valentin Cobelea is in on the call | 15:00 |
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pidge | YPTM: Beth Flanagan is on | 15:01 |
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rburton | YPTM: Ross on | 15:01 |
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jmpdelos | YPTM: Jeff Polk is on | 15:01 |
RP | YPTM: Richard is on | 15:01 |
tomz2 | YPTM: Tom Z on | 15:01 |
sjolley | YPTM: Stephen is on. :) | 15:01 |
michael_e_brown | YPTM: hi all, michael on | 15:01 |
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halstead | YPTM: Michael is on the call. | 15:04 |
belen1 | YPTM: Belen is on the call | 15:04 |
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AlexG | YPTM: only on chat, no audio | 15:06 |
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adamian | alex d joined | 15:06 |
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fray | YPTM: Mark is here now | 15:14 |
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nitink1 | YPTM nitin joined the call | 15:14 |
michael_e_brown | link to those performance metrics? | 15:14 |
michael_e_brown | s/metrics/tuning guide/ | 15:14 |
RP | michael_e_brown: its on the wiki | 15:14 |
halstead | michael_e_brown, The general tips at https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Build_Performance are a good start. | 15:15 |
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seezer_ | hi there. i'm trying to build meta-qt/qtwebkit 5.2.1 which requires "ruby-native" - which project/layer provides that? | 15:16 |
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Xz | guys, I have problem with kernel build (1.5.1 = dora). kernel-modules ipk does not contain any modules for some reason. Any clues what could have gone wrong? | 15:20 |
alexVaduva | YPTM: hello guys! | 15:20 |
seezer_ | or is it provided by meta-openembedded/recipes-devtools/ruby and only the dependency name "ruby-native" can't be resolved due to my mix of */dora but meta-qt/master | 15:20 |
kergoth | Xz: kernel-modules ipk just depends on all the individual kernel-module-* ipks, i doubt it was ever expected to contain any modules itself | 15:22 |
Xz | kergoth: my problem is that during core-image... rootfs doing - opkg complains about 'opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package kernel-module-stmmac' and others | 15:24 |
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kergoth | no idea. your kernel will only emit the modules which are enabled its in config. make your defconfig emits the modules your machine requires to boot | 15:25 |
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volker- | hi | 15:26 |
Xz | kergoth: well, my defconfig contains all modules required to boot :( | 15:27 |
Xz | kergoth: it used to work well on 1.4 - now I bumped to 1.5.1 and that problem occured | 15:27 |
volker- | I try to use "bootimg" with core-image-minimal. So I added it to USER_CLASSES in conf/local.conf. Now I get the error that global name 'oe' is not defined when expanding EFI_CLASS | 15:28 |
seezer_ | ok just forget my blafoo, pebkac | 15:28 |
zeddii | khem: | 15:29 |
zeddii | qemumips64 login: root | 15:29 |
zeddii | root@qemumips64:~# uname -a | 15:29 |
zeddii | Linux qemumips64 3.14.0-rc8-yocto-standard #1 PREEMPT Tue Mar 25 09:47:10 EDT 2014 mips64 GNU/Linux | 15:29 |
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seezer_ | ouch.. meta-qt5/qtwebkit_5.2.1 depends on qtlocation which depends on qt3d which is only a preview | 16:03 |
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av500 | linux dependency hell | 16:12 |
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Xz | I'm giving up. I went into kernel workdir and apparently there are no .ko files - so no modules were built | 16:42 |
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Xz | which would mean Yocto took other config file than mine? | 16:45 |
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Xz | ok Yocto is using different config than mine, proved. | 16:57 |
Xz | Now it looks like Yocto is looking for a file explicitly called 'defconfig' | 16:58 |
dvhart | Xz, this sounds like kernel issues | 16:58 |
dvhart | Xz, something I can help with? | 16:58 |
dvhart | (only saw your last to lines) | 16:58 |
Xz | dvhart: well, yeah | 17:00 |
Xz | dvhart: I just bumped the layer from 1.4 to 1.5.1 and top level problem is: "opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package kernel-module-stmmac" | 17:00 |
Xz | dvhart: then I started digging and I figured out that kernel builder took different config file than mine | 17:01 |
Xz | and there are no modules at all | 17:01 |
dvhart | ok, some context: MACHINE? kernel recipe? | 17:03 |
Xz | dvhart: on top of that log do_kernel_configcheck says: | 17:04 |
Xz | DEBUG: WARNING: Can't find any BSP hardware or required configuration fragments. | 17:04 |
Xz | WARNING: Looked at .meta/cfg/standard/quark/hdw_frags.txt and .meta/cfg/standard/quark/required_frags.txt in directory: .meta/cfg/standard/quark | 17:04 |
Xz | dvhart: the .meta looks suspicious as well :| | 17:04 |
dvhart | Right, so it built a dummy one for you as it couldn't find a MACHINE KTYPE match for your configuration | 17:05 |
dvhart | which is surely not going to have what you want | 17:05 |
dvhart | again, MACHINE and kernel-recipe? is this galileo stuff? | 17:06 |
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Xz | dvhart: yeah, let me put it to pastebin | 17:06 |
Xz | http://pastebin.com/7WHhH36k | 17:10 |
Xz | dvhart: kernel recipe is recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto-quark_3.8.bb | 17:11 |
Xz | dvhart: it's basically copy&paste from iotdevkit with clanton->quark rename | 17:12 |
dvhart | OK, did you change the name of the KMACHINE also? | 17:14 |
dvhart | if so, did you also add the quark-standard.scc in the meta data? | 17:14 |
dvhart | I see, yes, you did change KMACHINE | 17:15 |
dvhart | so did you also provide the necessary meta-data to support the new KMACHINE? | 17:15 |
dvhart | if not, why did you change KMACHINE - what were you trying to accomplish? | 17:15 |
dvhart | ah... sorry sorry, too hasty in my review of your paste bin | 17:16 |
dvhart | can you also paste your linux-yocto-quark please? | 17:16 |
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Xz | dvhart: kernel recipe: inherit kernel | 17:43 |
Xz | require recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto.inc | 17:43 |
Xz | # Override SRC_URI in a bbappend file to point at a different source | 17:43 |
Xz | # tree if you do not want to build from Linus' tree. | 17:43 |
Xz | SRC_URI = "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git;branch=linux-3.8.y" | 17:43 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://quark.cfg" | 17:43 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://quark-standard.scc" | 17:43 |
Xz | LINUX_VERSION ?= "3.8" | 17:43 |
Xz | LINUX_VERSION_EXTENSION ?= "-clanton" | 17:43 |
Xz | # Override SRCREV to point to a different commit in a bbappend file to | 17:43 |
Xz | # build a different release of the Linux kernel. | 17:43 |
Xz | SRCREV = "531ec28f9f26f78797124b9efcf2138b89794a1e" | 17:43 |
Xz | SRCREV_machine_quark = "531ec28f9f26f78797124b9efcf2138b89794a1e" | 17:43 |
Xz | PR = "r0" | 17:43 |
Xz | PV = "${LINUX_VERSION}" | 17:43 |
Xz | # Override COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to include your machine in a bbappend | 17:43 |
Xz | # file. Leaving it empty here ensures an early explicit build failure. | 17:43 |
Xz | COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "quark" | 17:43 |
Xz | RDEPENDS_kernel-base="" | 17:43 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0001-tty-don-t-deadlock-while-flushing-workqueue-quark.patch" | 17:43 |
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Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0002-driver-core-constify-data-for-class_find_devic-quark.patch" | 17:43 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0003-TTY-mark-tty_get_device-call-with-the-proper-c-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0004-pwm-Add-sysfs-interface-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0005-drivers-pwm-sysfs.c-add-export.h-RTC-50404-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0006-core-Quark-patch-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0007-Quark-Platform-Code-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0008-Quark-UART-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0009-EFI-capsule-update-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0010-Quark-SDIO-host-controller-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0011-Quark-USB-host-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0012-USB-gadget-serial-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0013-Quark-stmmac-Ethernet-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0014-Quark-GPIO-2-2-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0015-Quark-GPIO-1-2-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0016-Quark-GIP-Cypress-I-O-expander-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0017-Quark-I2C-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0018-Quark-sensors-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0019-Quark-SC-SPI-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0020-Quark-IIO-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
kergoth | dude, what the hell | 17:44 |
Xz | SRC_URI += "file://0021-Quark-SPI-flash-quark.patch" | 17:44 |
Xz | damn :| | 17:44 |
Xz | http://pastebin.com/pcgFqkF2 | 17:44 |
Xz | :) | 17:44 |
Xz | I got copy&paste wrong | 17:45 |
Xz | it's always either middle click or ctrl-c/ctrl-v | 17:46 |
kergoth | Xz: http://www.nongnu.org/autocutsel/ | 17:46 |
kergoth | syncs the multiple X clipboards | 17:46 |
kergoth | much less painful | 17:46 |
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rburton | multiple clipboards is cool! | 17:47 |
* kergoth twitches | 17:47 | |
Xz | kergoth: nice stuff | 17:47 |
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kergoth | gah, now this build dir is rebuilding everything. the only difference between this and the other build dir where it's pulling its sstate from, is the differing TOPDIR/TMPDIR | 17:49 |
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Xz | dvhart: what do you mean by providing some special meta data for KMACHINE? | 17:53 |
Xz | dvhart: I had to change the name, since 'clanton' is codename, quark is product name | 17:53 |
dvhart | Xz, hrm... you may need KMACHINE_quark="quark" defined in linux-yocto-quark | 17:54 |
dvhart | although I thought it defaulted to that | 17:54 |
dvhart | also, your COMPATIBLE_MACHINE should have a machine override: COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_quark="quark" | 17:55 |
dvhart | try the KMACHINE thing and let me know if you still get the missing meta data errors | 17:56 |
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dvhart | Xz, re the meta data - you are providing that with the quark-standard.scc | 17:56 |
dvhart | if that fails - please send email to the linux-yocto mailing list with these details provided here so zeddii and I can work with you on it there | 17:57 |
dvhart | It's possible you've hit a bug in the recipe-space kernel meta-data mechanism | 17:57 |
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kergoth | sigh, not getting sstate reuse between two bulid directories with identical configs and layers (other than SSTATE_DIR/SSTATE_MIRRORS) | 18:08 |
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Xz | dvhart: so just adding KMACHINE_quark = "quark" does not fix anything | 18:11 |
Xz | dvhart: the most interesting stuff is that I took it from iotdevkit and apparently iotdevkit works perfectly fine :| | 18:12 |
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dvhart | but you also bumped the base poky/oe-core version too right? | 18:14 |
dvhart | that changes the kernel tooling, which I suspect is what you are hitting. | 18:14 |
dvhart | Xz, ^ | 18:14 |
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Xz | dvhart: I bumped: meta-oe/, meta-intel/ and poky/ | 18:19 |
Xz | dvhart: three things in my bblyers.conf | 18:19 |
Xz | meta-oe is just 'dora' branch, the rest is 1.5.1 tag | 18:19 |
dvhart | what was working before? was it 1.3 ? | 18:20 |
Xz | dvhart: 1.4 | 18:20 |
Xz | dvhart: 1.4.1 actually | 18:20 |
Xz | dvhart: but again - I took kernel recipe from iotdevkit which normally works on 1.5 | 18:21 |
dvhart | OK, I suspect you hit a change in the kernel tooling or the kernel recipe - let's take this to the linux-yocto list. We need to get this fixed and ensure the documentation reflects the proper usage. | 18:21 |
dvhart | Xz, ah OK - good datapoint | 18:21 |
dvhart | is your layer available somewhere that zeddii and I could attempt to build it? | 18:21 |
dvhart | if so, please include that in your linux-yocto email | 18:22 |
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volker- | EFI = "${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", "efi", "1", "0", d)}" runs without any problems, EFI_CLASS = "${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", "efi", "grub-efi", "", d)}" complains about namerror for "oe" | 18:46 |
volker- | anyone knows why? | 18:46 |
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dvhart | volker-, what is the specific error? | 19:15 |
volker- | dvhart: ExpansionError: Failure expanding variable EFI_CLASS, expression was ${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURES", "efi", "grub | 19:22 |
volker- | -efi", "", d)} which triggered exception NameError: global name 'oe' is not defined | 19:22 |
volker- | ERROR: Unable to parse bootimg: Failure expanding variable EFI_CLASS, expression was ${@base_contains("MACHINE_FEATURE | 19:22 |
volker- | S", "efi", "grub-efi", "", d)} which triggered exception NameError: global name 'oe' is not defined | 19:22 |
volker- | I think actually the error happens on the "inherit ${EFI_CLASS}" | 19:22 |
volker- | dora git, meta/classes/bootimg.bbclass | 19:22 |
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dvhart | volker, sounds like it is trying to inherit "" - does your MACHINE_FEATURES contain efi? | 19:27 |
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dvhart | voller, I wonder if it needs some inline python to set it to grub-efi it is empty | 19:30 |
dvhart | volker even ^ | 19:31 |
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volker- | dvhart: no, MACHINE_FEATURES is not defined | 19:39 |
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volker- | dvhart: def base_contains(variable, checkvalues, truevalue, falsevalue, d) (meta/classes/utils.bbclass), so unless the variable-naming is screwed, it should be "" | 19:40 |
volker- | dvhart: if MACHINE_FEATURES cointains efi, it will be grub-efi, else it will be "" | 19:41 |
volker- | I don't know how to fix it, I am confused enough that just trying to build an ISO fails with dora | 19:42 |
dvhart | which machine? | 19:42 |
volker- | genericx86-64 + qemux86-64 | 19:42 |
dvhart | OK, so MACHINE_FEATURES should be defined, it may not contain efi, but it should be defined - is that what you meant? | 19:43 |
volker- | MACHINE_FEATURES = "" in my local.conf does not fix this | 19:44 |
volker- | dvhart: take the default local.conf and add bootimg to USER_CLASSES | 19:44 |
dvhart | MACHINE_FEATURES is defined in the machine config | 19:44 |
dvhart | MACHINE_FEATURES="alsa bluetooth usbgadget screen x86 rtc" | 19:45 |
dvhart | that's the default for that machine | 19:45 |
dvhart | now you said dora | 19:45 |
dvhart | hrm | 19:45 |
volker- | dvhart: if I clone poky and use the dora branch and do this modification it fails. | 19:45 |
dvhart | I'm not familiar with USER_CLASSES | 19:46 |
dvhart | what are you trying to accomplish? | 19:46 |
volker- | dvhart: gettign an ISO as output | 19:46 |
dvhart | Ah, isn't that just a matter of disabling the NOISO setting? | 19:46 |
* dvhart tries... | 19:46 | |
dvhart | what is NOISO set to in your environment? | 19:48 |
volker- | dvhart: not set by me | 19:48 |
dvhart | not what I asked :-) | 19:48 |
dvhart | bitbake core-image-minimal | grep NOISO= | 19:49 |
dvhart | bitbake core-image-minimal -e | grep NOISO= | 19:49 |
dvhart | the second one | 19:49 |
volker- | dvhart: no return | 19:49 |
dvhart | this will tell you what value of the variable bitbake is using for the build | 19:49 |
dvhart | you will need to disable your USER_CLASSES setting first as that is breaking parsing before we can print the environment | 19:49 |
volker- | dvhart: I start from the basic example distribution and make one modification | 19:51 |
volker- | dvhart: you can reproduce it by running git clone -b dora git://git.yoctoproject.org/poky dora;cd dora;source oe-init-build-env; sed -i 's/^USER_CLASSES .*/USER_CLASSES ?= "buildstats image-mklibs image-prelink bootimg"/' conf/local.conf; bitbake core-image-minimal | 19:51 |
dvhart | Yup, OK, well I have a dozen things cooking at the moment, was just trying to help you out. If you can't get the info, I'd suggest trying with NOISO=0 and see if that gets you what you want. The info requested above would help me determine if that's the right fix, but I'll leave it to you. | 19:53 |
volker- | even when disabling USER_CLASSES by commenting it out in conf/local.conf the bitbake command does not produce a NOISO output | 19:53 |
volker- | dvhart: when I put NOISO=0 into conf/local.conf bitbake prints out an ParseError | 19:55 |
dvhart | hem, indeed - digging a moment | 19:56 |
dvhart | I believe it needs "" | 19:56 |
dvhart | NOISO="0" | 19:56 |
volker- | yeah, that works, running it without bootimg + NOISO="0 | 19:57 |
dvhart | yup, that passes, running | 19:57 |
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dvhart | volker-, there is some coverage of this in the bootimg.bbclass section of the reference manual and NOISO in the glossary: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html | 19:58 |
dvhart | it probably isn't as clearly spelled out as it could be | 19:58 |
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dvhart | suggestions on how to improve the manual are welcome | 19:59 |
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volker- | dvhart: thats where I found bootimg.bbclass, but it fails as soon as you but the bootimg into it | 19:59 |
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dvhart | volker-, where did you get the idea to add booting to the USER_CLASSES ? | 20:01 |
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* dvhart isn't finding that in the manual... | 20:01 | |
volker- | dvhart: the default USER_CLASSES is "buildstats image-mklibs image-prelink", same section as bootimg.bbclass | 20:01 |
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dvhart | volker-, are you referring to chapter 8? | 20:03 |
volker- | dvhart: yes | 20:03 |
volker- | and USER_CLASSES is commented as "Additional image features", I would assume getting an ISO as output is a image feature | 20:03 |
dvhart | OK... I guess I'm still not seeing any connection between USER_CLASSES and bootimg.bbclass in there. I'm trying to understand how you made the connection so I can remove it ;-) | 20:04 |
dvhart | Ah | 20:04 |
dvhart | that I can understand | 20:04 |
dvhart | wrong sort of image feature.... but yes, I can see why you would arrive at that | 20:04 |
dvhart | booting isn't used in that way | 20:05 |
volker- | dvhart: so where/how do I use it and where can I find more about it to not run into similar issues the next time? | 20:05 |
dvhart | booting is automatically parsed and used for live images and iso images | 20:06 |
dvhart | it is the IMAGE_FSTYPES that specifies if these will be built | 20:06 |
volker- | dvhart: so I don't need to load classes but define the variables used by the classes? | 20:07 |
dvhart | In this case, that's right | 20:07 |
dvhart | I've never in >3 years used USER_CLASSES :-) | 20:07 |
volker- | but IMAGE_FSTYPE is part of image.bbclass, and nothing in the reference manual says anithing about ISO | 20:08 |
volker- | dvhart: so how should I know when to use what? | 20:08 |
dvhart | I pointed you to two sections about ISO... | 20:08 |
rburton | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#var-NOISO | 20:08 |
dvhart | I agree there should be something more task specific here | 20:09 |
dvhart | wonder if the dev manual is helpful here... | 20:09 |
volker- | dvhart: nothing about ISO in the devmanual. I was reading through it yesterday | 20:09 |
dvhart | yeah, you're correct | 20:09 |
dvhart | a clear gap | 20:09 |
dvhart | we have folks that are dedicated to docs | 20:10 |
dvhart | I would suggest opening a bug describing what you were trying to do and how the docs organization and content failed you | 20:10 |
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dvhart | Any suggestions on how you might do it differently would be welcome too | 20:11 |
volker- | so how do I know if I can set a variable and it will automatically find the class? | 20:11 |
volker- | sure, I can open a ticket | 20:11 |
dvhart | volker-, I think you might be focused too much on the class thing | 20:11 |
dvhart | variables drive the way things are built by bitbake | 20:11 |
volker- | I am new to yocto and its a painful learning curve right now | 20:11 |
dvhart | volker-, heh... you should have tried it 3 years ago before all these docs were around ;-) | 20:12 |
dvhart | but yes, there is a lot to learn, and not everything is a clearly spelled out as it could be | 20:12 |
dvhart | we have been working hard on improving this over the last few years and continue to do so | 20:12 |
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dvhart | If you can't find what you want to accomplish in the devmanual or the ref manual (by task), then I suggest asking on the yocto mailing list, or here | 20:13 |
dvhart | the mailing list if you don't get a quick response here | 20:13 |
volker- | that's why I asked this twice here ;-) | 20:14 |
dvhart | yup, and that's fine | 20:14 |
dvhart | but opening the bug is how things improve over time | 20:14 |
dvhart | otherwise you are just one person with tribal knowledge | 20:14 |
dvhart | one more person | 20:14 |
volker- | what I miss is a more comprehensive walk through | 20:15 |
dvhart | Have you been through the various labs and videos we've prepared? | 20:15 |
volker- | sure, I know how to clone and do a basic build, the dev-manual shows me how to create sample recipes, but the world is bigger as that :) | 20:15 |
volker- | nope, I assume documentation is more comprehensiv (and I found more itneresting features there) | 20:15 |
khem | zeddii: great | 20:16 |
dvhart | volker-, you said you wanted a walkthrough - the labs are just that | 20:16 |
dvhart | volker-, for example: https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/training | 20:17 |
Queeniebee | Hi pidge, I am interested in applying to Yocto's OPW internship. I notice that the YP internship page still refers to Spring, are you still looking for proposals concerning documentation for the Autobuilder? | 20:19 |
dvhart | there are others I'm not finding - if you send me an email volker- I can forward you the links when our webmaster gets back to me with where they are | 20:20 |
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volker- | dvhart: thanks, that would be great. | 20:21 |
pidge | Queeniebee: Yes, please, feel free to email me <elizabeth.flanagan@intel.com> | 20:21 |
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Queeniebee | pidge: great, I will. Thank you. | 20:21 |
pidge | Queeniebee: We close applications on Friday though, so, not much time | 20:22 |
dvhart | volker-, your NOISO build still building? | 20:23 |
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volker- | dvhart: yes | 20:27 |
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volker- | another painpoint to use prebuilds. unclear how to use them (there is documentation how to download them), but I deffer this task for now ;-) | 20:27 |
volker- | s/deffer/defer/ | 20:28 |
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volker- | dvhart: do you know in which documentation the operators are defined? Like ?=, ??= and how they are used? | 20:30 |
dvhart | volker-, that is in the bitbake manual | 20:33 |
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dvhart | volker-, poky/bitbake/doc/manual | 20:34 |
volker- | dvhart: thanks | 20:34 |
dvhart | yup, definitely a good one to read... every few months | 20:34 |
dvhart | :) | 20:34 |
volker- | dvhart: NOISO="0" spit out an iso | 20:44 |
volker- | dvhart: thanks a lot :) | 20:44 |
dvhart | you're welcome :-) | 20:44 |
dvhart | sorry that was such a painful process | 20:44 |
dvhart | please file the bug | 20:44 |
volker- | dvhart: did already :) | 20:44 |
dvhart | great | 20:45 |
rburton | iirc we turned off iso by default as very few people used them... | 20:46 |
dvhart | rburton, yup - and then never documented clearly how to turn them back on | 20:46 |
dvhart | :-) whoops | 20:46 |
volker- | something else, dora (seems to be the reference distribution) can be downloaded as tar.gz (good for build systems) and git. Now there seems to be a diff between the version you download and git. E.g. the downloaded one does not support Ubuntu 13.10, while the git version does. Therefore my understanding of "stable" version / code source is unclear to me. | 20:48 |
dvhart | it will just depend on whether or not you are using the exact git tag that matches the tarball | 20:51 |
dvhart | HEAD of the dora branch will be ahead of the 1.5 tar ball for example | 20:51 |
dvhart | see the tags and match them up with the tar ball you are using | 20:52 |
dvhart | (or just use the latest stable from git) | 20:52 |
volker- | ok, my understanding was that dora is the stable name | 20:52 |
dvhart | it is | 20:52 |
dvhart | stable doesn't mean it doesn't change | 20:52 |
dvhart | it means it only gets very carefully selected back ports from the master branch | 20:52 |
dvhart | to address important bugs | 20:53 |
dvhart | and that in turn feeds into th estimable point releases | 20:53 |
dvhart | 1.5.1 1.5.2, etc | 20:53 |
dvhart | ugh, autocorrect | 20:53 |
dvhart | "feeds into the stable point releases" | 20:53 |
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volker- | ok, thanks a lot again, dvhart. :) I have to leave now. | 20:57 |
dvhart | ;-) Good luck | 20:58 |
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volker- | I didn't know I need luck for yocto ;-) | 21:00 |
dvhart | pretty sure that's documented too... | 21:02 |
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gubadi | Hi all | 21:28 |
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gubadi | I am new to yocto project | 21:29 |
gubadi | can any one help me for some link or material for how to write recipe | 21:29 |
dvhart | gubadi, see the developers manual | 21:30 |
gubadi | because on the website it is not give nice material | 21:30 |
dvhart | I suggest starting here: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/dev-manual/dev-manual.html | 21:30 |
gubadi | ohk | 21:31 |
gubadi | thanks | 21:31 |
dvhart | Please raise issues with the website on the yocto list so we can discuss/track/fix them | 21:31 |
* dvhart isn't thrilled with it himself | 21:32 | |
gubadi | i have download x-chat, what do i need to enter in network field to get conntectd to this IRC chat | 21:32 |
gubadi | ? | 21:32 |
Crofton | press "Enter" | 21:33 |
Crofton | ah | 21:33 |
Crofton | you are connected via webchat | 21:33 |
gubadi | yes | 21:34 |
Crofton | irc.freenode.net shoudl do it | 21:34 |
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Crofton | I thought the question was funny for someones already here :) | 21:34 |
gubadi | lol | 21:38 |
gubadi | i was thinking same thing | 21:38 |
gubadi | but i mentioned for x-chat | 21:38 |
gubadi | not for web base | 21:38 |
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dv__ | i have a recipe for a package and i want to build it | 21:56 |
dv__ | i use following variable IMAGE_INSTALL_append /conf/local.conf but it failed with following messages: Nothing RPROVIDES 'packagegroup-iosxe-baseltP' (but /nobackup/dvasadia/ea2/meta-iosxe/recipes-images/iosxe/iosxe-devel-image.bb RDEPENDS on or otherwise requires it) | 21:57 |
dv__ | any pointer? | 21:57 |
dv__ | no reply | 21:59 |
dv__ | wow | 21:59 |
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #13 of nightly is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly/builds/13 | 22:06 | |
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kergoth | dv__: either you tried to add a package that doesn't exist, or you missed the needed leading space. IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " foo", not IMAGE_INSTALL_append = "foo" | 22:12 |
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dv__ | Jefro: I have only recipe file which is .bb and i have put space before package name | 22:22 |
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