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| chankit | where can i see the definition of do_patch? | 02:44 |
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| -YoctoAutoBuilder- build #207 of nightly-ppc-lsb is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-ppc-lsb/builds/207 | 04:31 | |
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| chankit | where can i see the definition of do_patch | 04:56 |
| nrossi | chankit: depends if you want the source or just want to see what its doing, if you want to see what its doing 'bitbake <foo> -e > temp', open temp and search for 'do_patch()' | 05:12 |
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| nerdboy | isn't there a do_patch log? | 06:16 |
| nerdboy | work/blah/blah/temp/log.do_patch | 06:18 |
| nrossi | nerdboy: i think there is also a run.do_patch, but i thought that was some python that calls into bitbake | 06:19 |
| nerdboy | there should be both logs and scripts | 06:20 |
| khem` | its python | 06:23 |
| khem` | so no logs | 06:23 |
| khem` | unless something goes wrong | 06:23 |
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| kanupatar | May I know, yocto build engine is supported by jenkins? | 06:25 |
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| khem` | kanupatar: it is in a way | 06:43 |
| khem` | its agnostic to autobuilders | 06:43 |
| kanupatar | khem`: means? | 06:45 |
| khem` | mean you can use buildbot jenkins, your own scripts | 06:45 |
| khem` | doesnt matter | 06:45 |
| nerdboy | i would use the bash script window in jenkins to start... | 06:47 |
| nerdboy | unless somebody made a plugin maybe | 06:47 |
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| chankit | how do I set yocto to run kernel 3.19 in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/ ? I tried setting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-yocto-dev" in local.conf but it only checks out 3.17 | 07:26 |
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| chankit | how do I set yocto to run kernel 3.19 in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/ ? I tried setting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-yocto-dev" in local.conf but it only checks out 3.17 | 08:09 |
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| BlauskaerM | Morning gentlemen | 08:34 |
| BlauskaerM | If someone has some time to spare, I have a question about how to add a custom driver to my yocto image | 08:34 |
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| BlauskaerM | I think I have figured out how to add a hello world program, using the yocto build flow (not 100% sure it is correct though) but it seems that it's a different approach when it comes to drivers. | 08:36 |
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| BlauskaerM | Anyone knows what steps I should take to accomplish this? Like good documents to read or available examples? | 08:38 |
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| JEEBsv | hmm, is EFI_PROVIDER more of an image or distro thing? | 08:41 |
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| nerdboy | BlauskaerM: can i assume you mean kernel driver? | 08:53 |
| BlauskaerM | nerdboy: Yeah | 08:53 |
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| nerdboy | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7.1/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#working-with-out-of-tree-modules | 08:54 |
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| nerdboy | docs are your friend, at least in the better open source projects | 08:54 |
| nerdboy | shocking, i know... | 08:54 |
| BlauskaerM | nerdboy: Looks good, can start with this and come back later :) | 08:55 |
| ericbutters | nerdboy: but i think when it comes to scc and cfg files that won't work | 08:55 |
| ericbutters | we saw yesterday some conversation here about that | 08:56 |
| * nerdboy usually breaks the rules with kernel sources anyway | 08:56 | |
| nerdboy | can't get in trouble pointing at the official docs... | 08:56 |
| ericbutters | better to do some patch and include this to the recipe-kernel/linxu* | 08:57 |
| nerdboy | the linux-yocto kernel is the current "official" way to do it, but not the only way | 08:57 |
| nerdboy | older model recipes are still there | 08:57 |
| nerdboy | can also go back to previous doc releases for those | 08:58 |
| nerdboy | sometimes you hack your own fix | 08:58 |
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| nerdboy | mostly i deploy manual-built kernels right now, so i probably can't be much help unless it becomes my problem at some point | 08:59 |
| nerdboy | what i need for project isn't available in yocto kernels right now unless i make my own | 09:00 |
| nerdboy | which i eventually will for beaglebone | 09:00 |
| JEEBsv | interesting, would have thought that getting "ConvertPages: failed to find range ..." from gummiboot is a fatal error, but after that it happily chugs along booting the kernel :D | 09:00 |
| nerdboy | ericbutters: what is the machine in this case? | 09:01 |
| nerdboy | and you are always free to bbappend the kernel recipe for whatever... | 09:02 |
| ericbutters | nerdboy: it was some kind of sierra wireless thing.. i only read it here, where the question was similar to what BlauskaerM asked.. It was not my problem.. it was reported by someone else | 09:03 |
| ericbutters | but anyway i think using a patch and scc/cfg files located in recipes-kernel/* is a good way | 09:04 |
| nerdboy | custom firmware maybe? | 09:04 |
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| nerdboy | the config thing is the documented way | 09:04 |
| nerdboy | older maybe, but still works | 09:04 |
| ericbutters | some simple patch that provides the kernel driver and scc/cfg that brings the kernel configuration | 09:05 |
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| nerdboy | https://www.yoctoproject.org/training/kernel-lab | 09:06 |
| nerdboy | that's 1.3/1/4 but still valid | 09:06 |
| chankit | how do I set yocto to run kernel 3.19 in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/ ? I tried setting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-yocto-dev" in local.conf but it only checks out 3.17 | 09:06 |
| nerdboy | ericbutters: it's in the lab | 09:06 |
| nerdboy | chankit: did you also add preferred_version? | 09:07 |
| chankit | nerdboy: no. how do I add it? | 09:07 |
| chankit | is it something like PREFERRED_VERSION=3.19? | 09:08 |
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| nerdboy | that should work, but PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-mainline = "3.19%" is better | 09:09 |
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| nerdboy | sorry, paste error | 09:10 |
| nerdboy | linux-yocto-dev in your case | 09:10 |
| nerdboy | and spaces count | 09:11 |
| BlauskaerM | nerdboy: Is the "%" symbol a wildcard? | 09:11 |
| * nerdboy tired after 4 days conference and travel | 09:12 | |
| nerdboy | yup | 09:12 |
| BlauskaerM | Noted | 09:12 |
| nerdboy | if you want, you can check yocto crash course slides and see if they help | 09:13 |
| nerdboy | we didn't get a short course, just an hour talk | 09:13 |
| chankit | nerdboy: doesn't do good.. I got " preferred version 3.19% of linux-yocto-dev not available (for item virtual/kernel)" | 09:13 |
| nerdboy | it has to be there | 09:14 |
| nerdboy | the version needs to exist rather | 09:14 |
| BlauskaerM | nerdboy: Have looked through them but it didn't really give me any clarity unfortunately =/ | 09:14 |
| nerdboy | do a find in recipe tree | 09:14 |
| nerdboy | https://github.com/VCTLabs/yocto-crash-course/tree/master/bin | 09:15 |
| nerdboy | BlauskaerM: that one | 09:15 |
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| nerdboy | chankit: what is latest yocto-dev in poky master? | 09:16 |
| * nerdboy flossing | 09:16 | |
| chankit | nerdboy: not sure but according to http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/ it has 3.19 | 09:16 |
| BlauskaerM | nerdboy: Oh, haven't seen these before. Thanks :) | 09:16 |
| BlauskaerM | Thought you meant the lab pdf | 09:17 |
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| nerdboy | that summarizes/explains the lab a little bit | 09:17 |
| nerdboy | at least i hope it does... | 09:17 |
| nerdboy | plus other stuff | 09:18 |
| nerdboy | chankit: what machine? | 09:19 |
| nerdboy | you might need to help it a little | 09:20 |
| chankit | nerdboy: standard/common-pc-64/base | 09:21 |
| nerdboy | grep COMPATIBLE_MACHINE | 09:21 |
| chankit | from where should I grep that? | 09:22 |
| nerdboy | might only support qemu machines | 09:22 |
| nerdboy | you could set COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "your machine" | 09:22 |
| nerdboy | might need to set commit hash too | 09:22 |
| nerdboy | in poky dir grep -R | 09:23 |
| chankit | nerdboy: I got quite a lot of output ..what u looking for? | 09:26 |
| nerdboy | in order to bump the kernel your machine must be supported by 3.19 recipe | 09:27 |
| nerdboy | you can override with the above setting | 09:27 |
| nerdboy | it's actually in the handout notes i just pointed at | 09:28 |
| nerdboy | https://github.com/VCTLabs/yocto-crash-course/tree/master/bin | 09:28 |
| * nerdboy needs another ploy so he can finish flossing/brushing... | 09:29 | |
| chankit | so I should set COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_linux-dev_yocto = "my machine" ? | 09:30 |
| nerdboy | no, actually COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_machine = "machine" | 09:32 |
| nerdboy | i know, kinda weird but... | 09:32 |
| nerdboy | you're overriding it | 09:32 |
| nerdboy | as in COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_beaglebone = "beaglebone" | 09:33 |
| chankit | nerdboy: so I put that in local.conf right? | 09:33 |
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| nerdboy | yup that shoudl work | 09:34 |
| bluelightning | morning all | 09:34 |
| nerdboy | assuming you have a beaglebone or change it to your machine | 09:35 |
| nerdboy | bluelightning: morning for you | 09:35 |
| nerdboy | i'm still trying to brush my teeth... | 09:35 |
| nerdboy | top-o-the-morning for you i hope? | 09:36 |
| chankit | nerdboy: sorry to ruin your morning but that approach is negative | 09:37 |
| chankit | nerdboy: I set my machine to genericx86-64 so there should be a 3.19 kernel available? | 09:37 |
| chankit | sorry..not an expert in navigating linux-dev-yocto page | 09:38 |
| chankit | and I set the compatible machine variable by COMPATIBLE_MACHINE_genericx86-64 = "genericx86-64" | 09:39 |
| chankit | so not sure if I'm doing it right | 09:39 |
| chankit | nerdboy: I'm heading off now so I will check with you again later if you don't mind | 09:42 |
| nerdboy | whatever your actual MACHINE is, use that | 09:43 |
| nerdboy | and you should set it in local.conf with = | 09:43 |
| nerdboy | i know this works because i just did it with beaglebone and linux-yocto | 09:44 |
| nerdboy | trust me... | 09:44 |
| nerdboy | on master in my case, but should also work on release branches | 09:45 |
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| sighack | Hi, can anyone help me to enable /proc on my device?? | 11:18 |
| sighack | I have enabled the proc filesystem through the kernel configuration, but when i do ifconfig i get an error : "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output." | 11:19 |
| rburton | have you mounted it? | 11:24 |
| rburton | (the default fstab mounts it) | 11:24 |
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| BlauskaerM | Hmm.... Still can't get the module over to my image. | 13:13 |
| BlauskaerM | Not 100 percent sure that it's getting compiled however | 13:14 |
| ericbutters | BlauskaerM: remove some ";" -- that sould throw an error while compiling | 13:15 |
| BlauskaerM | I followed the "instructions" from the manual (http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7.1/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#incorporating-out-of-tree-modules) but there is something that I'm missing | 13:15 |
| BlauskaerM | ericbutters: Will try that | 13:15 |
| ericbutters | BlauskaerM: does your module need a kernel confiuration (CONFIG_)? | 13:16 |
| BlauskaerM | ericbutters: No I dont think so? Its just a simple module that should print some text when it is loaded | 13:17 |
| BlauskaerM | So nothing complicated | 13:17 |
| BlauskaerM | I really need a better computer to build on -_- | 13:22 |
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| BlauskaerM | Hmm, that was good news (and also bad) | 13:37 |
| BlauskaerM | I removed some ; from the module source code but I didn't get any errors while running bitbake? | 13:37 |
| rburton | bitbake doesn't know that you've changed the source and won't rebuild everything just in case | 13:37 |
| BlauskaerM | kk | 13:38 |
| rburton | bitbake myrecipe -C compile will force it to recompile the recipe | 13:38 |
| BlauskaerM | Is there a command that I can use to clean? | 13:38 |
| BlauskaerM | Ahh | 13:38 |
| BlauskaerM | 2 sec | 13:38 |
| rburton | then rebuild the image or install the packages or whatever you want | 13:39 |
| BlauskaerM | There we go | 13:40 |
| BlauskaerM | Got the error | 13:40 |
| BlauskaerM | So every time I change the code in the module, I need to recompile it with bitbake myrecipe -C compile? | 13:41 |
| BlauskaerM | And then rebuild the image? | 13:41 |
| rburton | yeah, but you can just copy the package with the changes in to the image and install that - much shorter cycle | 13:41 |
| BlauskaerM | So after I have compiled the module I can just copy the .ko file from the tmp dir to the image? | 13:42 |
| rburton | yeah | 13:43 |
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| BlauskaerM | Noted | 13:43 |
| BlauskaerM | Will try to fix the module file (reinsert the ;) and then compile it again so see if I can find any .ko file in the tmp dir | 13:45 |
| BlauskaerM | Because that is where all end up right? | 13:45 |
| rburton | tmp/work/[machine]/[recipe]/deploy-* has the packages generated | 13:46 |
| rburton | or packages-split has the packages before they were packaged up | 13:46 |
| BlauskaerM | Will check that. Waiting for bitbake to terminate :P | 13:47 |
| BlauskaerM | Found a directory for the module but it does not contain a deply dir? | 13:48 |
| BlauskaerM | deploy* | 13:49 |
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| BlauskaerM | Maybe that is because the compile failed? | 13:51 |
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| rburton | probably, if the compile failed then it can't distribute anything | 14:17 |
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| BlauskaerM | rburton: Sounds like it. I appeared after I fixed the source file and recompiled :) | 14:29 |
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| dgm816 | hi guys.. while developing, should i clear out the tmp/cache dirs as i modify recipes in regards to making feeds? specifically, im wondering if the package-index recipe would hold multiple versions of a package for me, so i could install v1.0 of my package even if v1.1 was available.. | 14:33 |
| dgm816 | or another way.. how do i ensure that Package.gz index files contain all the packages available on the feed? | 14:34 |
| bluelightning | dgm816: bitbake package-index will update the feed immediately | 14:37 |
| bluelightning | dgm816: however, note that when a newer version of a recipe is built and packaged, the older package is deleted | 14:38 |
| dgm816 | bluelightning, ah, ok.. so i would need 2 feeds say one for unstable/devel and the other feed stable.. to deploy for testing? | 14:38 |
| bluelightning | yes, you need to manage your own feeds to get that | 14:39 |
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| bluelightning | I'm assuming nobody heard me speaking... | 16:07 |
| bluelightning | (something went weird with the bridge, but since rejoining it seems fine) | 16:10 |
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| rburton | bluelightning: the upgrade was stalling on a circular dependency in util-linux, i have a patch that drops the systemd dep from util-linux. i'll verify it is mostly harmless and post if so | 16:11 |
| bluelightning | ok, cool, thanks | 16:11 |
| fray | I looked them over quickly.. looks intersting | 16:12 |
| rburton | khem: you added distutils-tools.bbclass "for python3" but nothing seems to include it. can it be deleted or am i being blind? | 16:13 |
| khem` | I need to jog my memory down the lane | 16:15 |
| rburton | thanks :) | 16:15 |
| rburton | does anyone know distutils well? | 16:18 |
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| sjolley | YPTM is over. | 16:20 |
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| khem` | rburton: ok, it was a jnpr thing, there were tools packages which were slightly different | 16:30 |
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| khem` | some of them internal but some were external | 16:30 |
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| khem` | I dont remeber which were all external | 16:30 |
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| khem` | but I never got around to contribute them | 16:31 |
| khem` | as of now it looks dead code | 16:31 |
| rburton | ok,i'll blast it away | 16:31 |
| rburton | thanks khem | 16:31 |
| rburton | khem: an opinion on http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=ross/distutils&id=4d15f590e8aeedf2e7c03cdaf02dd57ccbff5ef5 would be helpful too :) | 16:31 |
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| rburton | for a basic package it appears to work… just kicked a build of all of oe-core's python to see | 16:32 |
| rburton | its a bit horrid in that you need to do "build —build-base install" to do an install | 16:32 |
| ulf` | hi | 16:32 |
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| khem` | rburton: looks ok | 16:35 |
| khem` | you got the order of build-base and install right | 16:35 |
| rburton | ok, needs to do a cd ${S} first | 16:35 |
| khem` | IIRC there were issues when they were interchanged on cmdline in order | 16:35 |
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| rburton | yeah build-base is an option for build | 16:36 |
| rburton | discovered that ten minutes ago :) | 16:36 |
| khem` | let m find that bug | 16:36 |
| khem` | here http://bugs.python.org/issue1011113 | 16:36 |
| khem` | are we carrying these patches ? | 16:37 |
| khem` | if not then I would suggest to backport them | 16:37 |
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| rburton | well distutils —build-base is nonsense isnt it | 17:07 |
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| dgm816 | i have 2 packages being built.. how to i specify to opkg that only one ipk can be installed? either one is fine (personal preference, provide same functionality), but i need to be sure only one or the other is installed.. can i do this from my bitbake recipe? anyone know of an example to look at? | 17:11 |
| bluelightning | dgm816: RCONFLICTS_packagename1 = "packagename2" | 17:12 |
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| realBigfoot | Guys, i am having trouble with Dependency Loop, after updating master repository. What is this ? | 17:15 |
| bluelightning | realBigfoot: what is the dependency loop you are seeing exactly? | 17:16 |
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| realBigfoot | from a recipe that i have changed for test proposal | 17:17 |
| dgm816 | bluelightning, thank you again! | 17:17 |
| realBigfoot | the weird thing is that it was working quite fine | 17:17 |
| bluelightning | realBigfoot: in general a dependency loop means that recipe A depends on recipe B depends on recipe A and therefore there is no way to satisfy the dependency relationship | 17:18 |
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| bluelightning | realBigfoot: without specifics I can't really advise further | 17:18 |
| dgm816 | bluelightning, at runtime i would have to do "opkg remove package1; opkg install package2" to switch conflicting packages from one to another? | 17:19 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, I see, this is enough :) | 17:19 |
| realBigfoot | thanks | 17:19 |
| bluelightning | dgm816: yes | 17:19 |
| dgm816 | thank you | 17:19 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, do you know how to increase debug level to see more about where is the dependency loop ? I've tried with bitbake -D option but it was the same | 17:21 |
| bluelightning | when is the error coming up exactly? | 17:24 |
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| realBigfoot | bluelightning, when compiling systemd | 17:25 |
| bluelightning | more specifically? i.e. in the middle of a task? before the build even gets started? | 17:25 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, before the build gets started | 17:27 |
| rburton | helps if you say what the loop is… | 17:27 |
| realBigfoot | rburton, this is what i am trying to figure out... :( | 17:28 |
| rburton | well what is the output of bitbake? | 17:28 |
| realBigfoot | rburton, ERROR: Unbuildable tasks were found. | 17:28 |
| realBigfoot | These are usually caused by circular dependencies and any circular dependency chains found will be printed below. Increase the debug level to see a list of unbuildable tasks. | 17:28 |
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| bluelightning | looking at the code, it reports the dependency loop as far as I can tell... | 17:30 |
| rburton | can't be a dependency loop then i guess | 17:30 |
| bluelightning | realBigfoot: does it say "Identifying dependency loops" after that ? | 17:31 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, sorry the delay i was pasting it here we go: | 17:32 |
| realBigfoot | ERROR: | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | Dependency loop #1 found: | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | Task 452 (/media/project/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_218.bb, do_packagedata) (dependent Tasks ['systemd, do_package']) | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | Task 927 (/media/project/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-core/util-linux/util-linux_2.25.2.bb, do_package) (dependent Tasks ['pseudo, do_populate_sysroot', 'gcc-runtime, do_packagedata', 'rpm, do_populate_sysroot', 'glibc, do_packagedata', 'systemd, do_packagedata', 'util-linux, do_install', 'zlib, do_packagedata', 'file, do_populate_sysroot', 'libtool-cross, do_packagedata', 'opkg-utils, do_packagedata', 'ncurses, do_packagedata']) | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | Task 924 (/media/project/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-core/util-linux/util-linux_2.25.2.bb, do_packagedata) (dependent Tasks ['util-linux, do_package']) | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | Task 455 (/media/project/yocto/poky/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_218.bb, do_package) (dependent Tasks ['pseudo, do_populate_sysroot', 'libcgroup, do_packagedata', 'libtool-cross, do_packagedata', 'util-linux, do_packagedata', 'libgcrypt, do_packagedata', 'glibc, do_packagedata', 'curl, do_packagedata', 'kmod, do_packagedata', 'opkg-utils, do_packagedata', 'systemd, do_install_ptest_base', 'systemd, do_install', 'initscripts, do_packagedata', | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | 'gcc-runtime, do_packagedata', 'libidn, do_packagedata', 'glib-2.0, do_packagedata', 'acl, do_packagedata', 'xz, do_packagedata', 'lz4, do_packagedata', 'rpm, do_populate_sysroot', 'readline, do_packagedata', 'file, do_populate_sysroot', 'dbus, do_packagedata', 'libcap, do_packagedata']) | 17:33 |
| bluelightning | realBigfoot: please use pastebin next time | 17:33 |
| realBigfoot | sorry | 17:33 |
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| nerdboy | bluelightning: did you get all the donuts? | 17:34 |
| bluelightning | nerdboy: not even one :p | 17:35 |
| nerdboy | that's poopy | 17:35 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, rburton do you know what could be the problem ? or any clue what it says ? | 17:35 |
| bluelightning | realBigfoot: have you applied a systemd 218 upgrade? that's not in master... | 17:36 |
| rburton | yeah, that's what i was going to say | 17:36 |
| realBigfoot | bluelightning, i have changed... something like I said before.... but it was working, I would sent it to you after i have finished | 17:36 |
| nerdboy | bluelightning: going to ELC maybe? | 17:37 |
| bluelightning | nerdboy: I think so yes | 17:37 |
| rburton | realBigfoot: you've managed to add a circular dependency betwen util-linux and systemd | 17:38 |
| realBigfoot | rbuton that makes sense :) | 17:39 |
| rburton | realBigfoot: which is why khem's series upgrading to 218 splits util-linux in half, and why i'm just cleaning up another series that disables systemd support in util-linux | 17:39 |
| nerdboy | bluelightning: good, me too | 17:39 |
| nerdboy | bluelightning: old speckled hen at a place down the street | 17:39 |
| * nerdboy hopes he's still there | 17:40 | |
| * nerdboy working towards elc slide deadline | 17:41 | |
| realBigfoot | rburton, thanks! It was the perfect tip.. it worked perfect | 17:42 |
| realBigfoot | s/perfect/perfectly/ | 17:42 |
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| nerdboy | people seemed to like yocto crash course talk at scale | 17:44 |
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| Casper_ | Hi! Potential Yocto newbie here. I want to learn how to cross compile SW packages for BeagleBone running Angstrom 2012.12 so that I could install .ipk packages which are not readily available through opkg. Yocto (Poky) and BitBake came up a lot when searching the web. But always as a build system for complete Linux distributions. I only need to build a specific package . Is Yocto Project the right way to go or would you recommend an a | 17:50 |
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| neverpanic | Casper_: your message was cut off after "would you recommand an a" | 18:13 |
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| Casper_ | neverpanic: Was it indeed? Strange. I can see the whole message. Thanks for letting me know. The message goes on like this: "would you recommend an alternative approach? Thanks." | 18:16 |
| neverpanic | Casper_: IRC has a maximum line length; the server truncates the message. | 18:16 |
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| neverpanic | bitbake can build .ipks. I'm not sure how they'd do compatibility-wise to your existing system, but if you use the same version or use an SDK you should be able to build a working package | 18:17 |
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| * kergoth likes irc clients that break up long messages automatically :) | 18:18 | |
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| dgm816 | how would i list a recipe in a image recipe to be built, but not necessarily installed in the image? i can use DEPENDS (fake a build time depend) but that seems hacky | 18:20 |
| bluelightning | dgm816: EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS += "..." | 18:21 |
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| dgm816 | ok, i saw that.. i thought that was only for bootloaders and such.. | 18:22 |
| dgm816 | i guess that will make ipk's and just not install them within the image? | 18:23 |
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| bluelightning | dgm816: what are you trying to do exactly? | 18:26 |
| dgm816 | i want to build package1 and package2.. but only 1 should be installed.. however, i want to put them both up on the feeds.. so i can 'opkg remove packag1; opkg install package2' if that one is preferred.. | 18:27 |
| dgm816 | it relates to my earlier question really.. | 18:27 |
| dgm816 | correction, only one installed in the image at a time.. | 18:27 |
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| bluelightning | ok, well in that case I would have to assume it's not the only package you want to be available alongside the image | 18:29 |
| bluelightning | in which case, you should consider creating a meta recipe which depends on the other recipes you want packaged but not installed | 18:30 |
| bluelightning | (basically just create a recipe that contains "inherit meta" and DEPENDS on all of the things that should build when you build it) | 18:30 |
| nerdboy | neverpanic: you would want to build at least the metatoolchain target for the release on your beaglebone | 18:31 |
| dgm816 | bluelightning, that sounds good.. i'll proceed that way.. thank you.. | 18:32 |
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| nerdboy | not sure what the image is, but ideally you can "bitbake image_name -c populate_sdk" | 18:32 |
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| neverpanic | nerdboy: you meant Casper_, right? | 18:32 |
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| nerdboy | yup | 18:33 |
| nerdboy | scroll fail... | 18:33 |
| bluelightning | bbl | 18:33 |
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| dgm816 | bluelightning, so i will create a meta-pkg-name which depends on my image recipe.. i'd then issue 'bitbake meta-pkg-name' and it should take care to build the image as well? | 18:34 |
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| dgm816 | and add "DEPENDS += 'package1 package2'" to the meta recipe | 18:34 |
| nerdboy | Casper_: ^^ meta-toolchain will build you a toolchain with minimal sysroot, the other one is full sdk but needs an image target | 18:35 |
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| rewitt | dgn816: You would actually want to use "RDEPENDS" for the packages, "DEPENDS" essentially means do_populate_sysroot() has ran for those recipes, "RDEPENDS" would be if you need the packaging routine to have ran | 18:38 |
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| rewitt | dgm816: Whoops I mistyped your id ^^ applies to you :) | 18:39 |
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| dgm816 | rewitt, thank you.. i'll use RDEPENDS | 18:40 |
| Casper_ | neverpanic & nerdboy: Thanks for your inputs. Not being familiar with Yocto the terms "full sdk" and "meta-toolchain" are unclear to me in the context of the Poky build system. I see I have some more research to do. However from your writing I see that using the Yocto project could be the way to go. You do not see a more suitable/easier solution? | 18:44 |
| nerdboy | read the yocto quick start yet? | 18:48 |
| nerdboy | toolchain is your cross-compiler/libc/headers | 18:48 |
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| nerdboy | "bitbake metatoochain" will make you a basic cross-compile setup with env script, etc | 18:49 |
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| nerdboy | er, meta-toolchain even | 18:49 |
| nerdboy | Casper_: maybe look at this and use the reference links => https://github.com/VCTLabs/yocto-crash-course/blob/master/bin/yocto_scale_handout.pdf | 18:52 |
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| Casper_ | nerdboy: Thanks for the link. I will have a look at the pdf and at the Yocto docs, keeping an eye out for what you mentioned. I think I got my answer. Yocto is the way to go. | 19:02 |
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| lpapp | hi, how can I avoid Yocto automatically putting my .so files into the -dev package? | 19:14 |
| lpapp | I want to get them into my ${PN} | 19:14 |
| khem` | lpapp: you could do it like this | 19:17 |
| khem` | FILES_SOLIBSDEV = "" | 19:17 |
| khem` | SOLIBS = ".so" | 19:17 |
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| khem` | INSANE_SKIP_${PN} += "dev-so" | 19:17 |
| khem` | but I would rather fix the component to generate versioned libs | 19:17 |
| khem` | it has other benefits along with clean recipe | 19:17 |
| khem` | but some thirdparty libs cant be done that way so I do understand that usecase | 19:18 |
| lpapp | well, I would rather not do big changes now in the pressure of release ;-) | 19:18 |
| lpapp | will the aforementioned idea work with dylan? | 19:18 |
| lpapp | it is not thirdparty lib, by the way, it is our own lib which I and my colleagues develop. | 19:18 |
| lpapp | we can do cosmethic changes later, that is fine. | 19:19 |
| nerdboy | lpapp: ship it! | 19:20 |
| lpapp | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html | 19:20 |
| lpapp | cannot find FILES_SOLIBSDEV. | 19:21 |
| lpapp | nerdboy: if it only worked ... | 19:21 |
| lpapp | if only it worked*, hack, stress is not good for typing :) | 19:21 |
| lpapp | khem`: the so name is probably a quick fix though | 19:21 |
| lpapp | khem`: see, the architecture is relatively complex, we do not have time to establish proper layers in Yocto. | 19:22 |
| lpapp | I am happy to ship it as a bit more monoltythic than that. | 19:22 |
| * nerdboy left the agile-train-to-hell last year | 19:22 | |
| lpapp | nerdboy: I have never joined that train ;-) | 19:22 |
| nerdboy | neither did i | 19:23 |
| rewitt | not having proper layers shouldn't impact the ability to create versioned libs :) | 19:23 |
| nerdboy | more like a hijacking | 19:23 |
| lpapp | rewitt: that is exactly why I said I would do that. | 19:23 |
| lpapp | but thinking about package layering is comethic at this point. It is not simply my lib and my app. | 19:24 |
| lpapp | it is my kernel + my utils + my lib + my apps + mylibs + myapps, etc | 19:24 |
| lpapp | it is a quite complex stack ;-) | 19:24 |
| nerdboy | you're supposed to grow it the right way... | 19:25 |
| lpapp | needs half a day to think about packaging, implementing it and testing. | 19:25 |
| lpapp | nerdboy: I am supposed to find a rich woman, too :D | 19:25 |
| lpapp | I am still surprised that FILES_SOLIBSDEV is undocumented. | 19:25 |
| lpapp | I will open a ticket for that. | 19:26 |
| neverpanic | Doesn't Yocto only put .so files that are symlinks into -dev packages, anyway? | 19:26 |
| khem` | it does | 19:26 |
| khem` | but he wants to devoid that | 19:26 |
| neverpanic | Then I really don't know why they would be needed at runtime. | 19:27 |
| lpapp | neverpanic: nope | 19:27 |
| lpapp | you can disable that. | 19:27 |
| lpapp | see above, the insake skips, I did that in the past, too. | 19:27 |
| khem` | lpapp: you should really bite the bullet once and do it right in component | 19:27 |
| khem` | good engineering goes long way | 19:27 |
| lpapp | khem`: like I wrote many times above, sure.. Now? No. | 19:27 |
| lpapp | khem`: well, you are used to Intel with shitload of money | 19:28 |
| lpapp | try a startup where you have to ship stuff asap to survive | 19:28 |
| khem` | what ? | 19:28 |
| lpapp | cosmethic stuff will not be high priority :) | 19:28 |
| nerdboy | lpapp: i am just giving you crap... i got stalled in the middle of restructuring my meta-alt layer and all the images | 19:28 |
| lpapp | I have been on both side as an ex-"nokian". | 19:28 |
| lpapp | sides* | 19:28 |
| nerdboy | need get back to that someday... | 19:28 |
| lpapp | I notice the differences of the business stuff... | 19:28 |
| nerdboy | lpapp: khem is juniper afaik, not intel | 19:29 |
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| nerdboy | still a nice place, not so big though | 19:30 |
| lpapp | nerdboy: Intel was just a name ... | 19:30 |
| nerdboy | *big as intel | 19:30 |
| lpapp | the important bit is the focus you have to put on stuff. | 19:30 |
| nerdboy | well, some of these guys do work at intel... | 19:30 |
| nerdboy | you didn't notice the crap part? | 19:31 |
| lpapp | Would I like to do everything perfect like in my dreams? Sure! Can I afford that in a small company playing for survival? Absolutely not. | 19:31 |
| lpapp | there are layers above technical stuff... e.g. business. | 19:31 |
| rewitt | but it's really just making the .so a symlink and the real library have a .1 on the end of it. You don't even have to ever increment the version number if you don't want to. I guess I fail to see why that takes any more time than working around it. | 19:32 |
| lpapp | it is annoying that "yocto bugreport" does not give any good result on the first page of Google results. I am not joking! | 19:32 |
| lpapp | rewitt: that is the thing. You have not even understood the use case. | 19:33 |
| lpapp | if it was just like that, sure. | 19:33 |
| lpapp | but it is not.... | 19:33 |
| * nerdboy glad to see nothing has changed too much... | 19:33 | |
| lpapp | although even that requires gcc knowledge in the buildsystem how to do it properly with Makefiles, etc, which I simply do not have at this point. | 19:34 |
| lpapp | skills do not come for free. | 19:34 |
| lpapp | I still do not get why google cannot find me where to report bugs against Yocto. This is ... suboptimal. | 19:34 |
| rewitt | https://www.yoctoproject.org/tools-resources/bugs is the first hit on google for "yocto bugs" that page then has a link to the bugzilla | 19:35 |
| khem` | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yocto+bugs | 19:35 |
| lpapp | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7358 | 19:36 |
| yocti | Bug 7358: normal, Undecided, ---, david.c.stewart, NEW , FILES_SOLIBSDEV is not documented | 19:36 |
| lpapp | rewitt: I was not looking for that page. | 19:36 |
| lpapp | I was looking for the bugzilla. | 19:36 |
| lpapp | and yes, I know where to find it as I reported many bugs in the past. | 19:36 |
| lpapp | I am simply telling that it is not indexed properly by Google which is a fail. | 19:36 |
| lpapp | I do not know why it is happening though ... The Yocto project is the first where I see this failure on Google. | 19:36 |
| lpapp | e.g. type qt bugreport | 19:37 |
| lpapp | gnome bugreport | 19:37 |
| rewitt | khem: I'm curious did you figure out what was different in core-image-sato that was causing init to segfault? | 19:38 |
| lpapp | etc, I do not know why the Yocto bugzilla is not indexed. | 19:38 |
| lpapp | kde bugreport, etc, etc, g2g... | 19:38 |
| khem` | rewitt: no time | 19:38 |
| khem` | I use systemd so sysvinit is like a step child | 19:39 |
| khem` | and it works with systemd | 19:39 |
| rewitt | khem: I agree it's really hard for me to switch back to sysvinit | 19:39 |
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| nerdboy | what branch? | 19:40 |
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| nerdboy | guess i should deploy a recent build... | 19:40 |
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| khem` | OK so kernel headers updated to 3.19 but conman was not fixed to take it | 20:01 |
| khem` | from /home/ubuntu/work/bleeding/openembedded-core/build/tmp-glibc/work/core2-64-oe-linux/connman/1.28-r0/connman-1.28/src/tethering.c:39: | 20:01 |
| khem` | :8: error: redefinition of 'struct in6_addr' | 20:02 |
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| rburton | huh works here | 20:06 |
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| khem` | rburton: It was a local cruft | 20:28 |
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| dgm816 | is there a way to set only the locales i want to generate in local.conf? | 20:56 |
| * paulg notes that the python upgrade breaks build-appliance related stuff. | 20:57 | |
| paulg | .... | 20:58 |
| paulg | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/ctypes/__init__.py", line 10, in <module> | 20:58 |
| paulg | from _ctypes import Union, Structure, Array | 20:58 |
| paulg | ImportError: No module named _ctypes | 20:58 |
| paulg | get the above when trying to invoke bitbake in the build appliance... | 20:58 |
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| paulg | To be fair, I am _guessing_ it is the python uprev. | 21:03 |
| khem` | dgm816: yes set IMAGE_LINGUAS | 21:04 |
| khem` | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-IMAGE_LINGUAS | 21:04 |
| khem` | paulg: it seems it did not configure ctype.so | 21:05 |
| dgm816 | khem`, aren't those only tne installed package locales into the image? i'd like to not even generate them to keep my Packages.gz smaller.. we will have to be updating over slow/unreliable links.. | 21:05 |
| khem` | paulg: usually happens when python detects wrong CC | 21:05 |
| khem` | dgm816: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES | 21:06 |
| khem` | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION | 21:06 |
| khem` | is all you need to read | 21:06 |
| paulg | khem`, zeddii and I were just looking at part of the recipe which looked to specifically error out if ctype wasn't configured.. | 21:11 |
| paulg | but AFAIK that never tripped. | 21:12 |
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| nerdboy | dgm816: last time i messed with those settings it broke my X keyboard config | 21:26 |
| nerdboy | i set IMAGE_LINGUAS = "en-us" in local.conf and it all went kablooey | 21:29 |
| nerdboy | so obviously that's not all of it... | 21:30 |
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| khem` | paulg: ok that good | 21:59 |
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| khem` | has someone used make-native | 22:31 |
| khem` | instead of host make | 22:32 |
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| paul_G | bluelightning, just a heads up ; "populate_sdk_ext: add extensible SDK" somehow trips up the tab completion I'd added to git; we now try to find a nativesdk-bash-completion when building the native git, and that gives... | 22:38 |
| paul_G | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'nativesdk-bash-completion' (but virtual:nativesdk:/home/paul/poky/meta/recipes-devtools/git/git_2.3.0.bb DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it). Close matches: | 22:40 |
| paul_G | Looking into it now.... | 22:40 |
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| rewitt | paul_G: that happens just by doing a "bitbake git-native"? | 22:55 |
| paul_G | rewitt, as it turns out no.... just getting to the bottom of it this very minute. | 22:57 |
| paul_G | I had a local layer change that caused it... | 22:57 |
| rewitt | paul_G: ok, let me know the sdk patch series really does end up causing problems | 22:58 |
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| paul_G | so, here is what broke. The part of the git tab completion that I didn't send upstream because bash-completion isn't (yet?) outside of meta-oe, was this, in a local bbappend for git. | 23:01 |
| paul_G | PACKAGECONFIG ?= "bash-completion" | 23:01 |
| paul_G | PACKAGECONFIG[bash-completion] = ",,bash-completion,bash-completion ${BPN}-bash-completion" | 23:01 |
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| paul_G | but w/o meta-oe in your bblayers, you can't do that. | 23:02 |
| paul_G | It was just a fancy way to say use git tab completion if bash completion is present. That said, others may have similar constructs that now behave differently. | 23:04 |
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| paul_G | rewitt, looking at your commit, it was over my head as to why the behaviour changed from it... | 23:05 |
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| rewitt | I wouldn't expect the behavior to be any different unless you were actually trying to build an sdk | 23:06 |
| paul_G | I can easily drop my git bbappend and unconditionally call out bash-completion and git-completion in my packagelist | 23:06 |
| paul_G | rewitt, well it probably is beacuse git has this... | 23:06 |
| paul_G | BBCLASSEXTEND = "native nativesdk" | 23:07 |
| paul_G | so when I added tab completion, as this... | 23:07 |
| paul_G | PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-bash-completion" | 23:07 |
| paul_G | it was generally right in thinking a native one made sense. | 23:08 |
| paul_G | anyway, testing without the two PACKAGECONFIG lines quoted above and things are ok ; not failing looking for a native-bash-completion | 23:08 |
| paul_G | rewitt, and fwiw, I wasn't directly trying to build an sdk, but I am building a layer based on the build appliance, so it kind of / sort of is an sdk of sorts.... | 23:09 |
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| paul_G | now, with that solved, do I feel brave enough to try and figure out why the python uprev broke build appliance.... | 23:17 |
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