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supa_Hi.  I was curious whether or not we can use the MCU on the Intel Edison yet.05:38
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mckoangood morning08:10
chankitmckoan: morning08:15
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BlauskaerMStill no luck getting my module compiled into the image09:32
BlauskaerMUsed the tutorial at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7.1/kernel-dev/kernel-dev.html#incorporating-out-of-tree-modules,but I still cant see the module on the actual image. I know its being compiled however09:33
BlauskaerMCan see it in the tmp folder09:33
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BlauskaerMVery new to yocto so this might be wrong. I have created a new meta layer and copied the example module from meta-skeleton directory (hello-mod) into recipe-kernel in my new meta layer.09:37
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BlauskaerMAnd then renamed it to mymodule-mod and then added MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS += "kernel-module-mymodule" to my layer.conf09:37
BlauskaerMIs this the right way?09:38
mckoanBlauskaerM: in the machine's .conf09:40
mckoanhttp://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.7.1/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS09:41
BlauskaerMmckoan: Ok, so need to make a machine directory (conf/machine) and put the MACHINE_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS there?09:43
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bluelightningmorning all09:46
mckoanhi BlauskaerM09:50
mckoanhi bluelightning09:50
bluelightninghi mckoan09:51
BlauskaerMmorning mckoan09:51
BlauskaerMWell, its morning here09:52
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BlauskaerMmckoan: The machine file, does it need a special name for bitbake to find it or can I just put an arbitrary file name in /conf/machine with the .conf file extension?10:04
BlauskaerMAnd then just put MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-mymodule-mod" in that file?10:06
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mckoanBlauskaerM: which machine are you using?10:25
BlauskaerMmckoan: socfpga_cyclone510:32
BlauskaerMmckoan: Should my machine conf file have the same name?10:35
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mckoanBlauskaerM: you already have asocfpga_cyclone5.conf10:39
BlauskaerMmckoan: Yes, its in the altera directory (not the new layer I created)10:47
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BlauskaerMmckoan: Should I add MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-mymodule-mod" to the socfpga_cyclone5.conf fil in the altera directory?10:53
BlauskaerMIts not possible to make like an append file for machine configuration?10:53
BlauskaerMIn my own layer?10:53
bluelightningBlauskaerM: not really, but you can have your own (renamed) version of the machine conf; it can even "require" the original version so you don't have to duplicate the contents10:54
BlauskaerMThat sounds good10:55
BlauskaerMShould it have the same name as the altera machine file? Like meta-mylayer/conf/machine/socfpga_cyclone5.conf10:56
BlauskaerMAnd then a require statment in that file that "points" to the original machine file?10:56
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bluelightningI would suggest using a different name, otherwise whether or not your customised machine file is picked up will depend on where your layer appears in BBPATH which depends on the order in which it appears in bblayers.conf11:05
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BlauskaerMbluelightning: kk11:38
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BlauskaerMbluelightning: In the machine file in my new layer, how do I use the "require" statement to point at another machine file that is outside the meta layer directory? All the examples I have seen only points to files within the layer itself11:40
bluelightningBlauskaerM: require conf/machine/<origname>.conf11:41
bluelightningBlauskaerM: where <origname> is the name of the original machine, naturally11:41
BlauskaerMbluelightning: Thank you :)11:41
BlauskaerMWill try that11:41
BlauskaerMWill you be here long today? My compile machine is quite slow so it will take some time to test this11:43
bluelightningBlauskaerM: yeah it's just coming up to noon here in London, so I'll be around for a few hours yet11:45
BlauskaerM\o/11:45
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BlauskaerMJust have another question, not related to the module thing. I think I have figured it out about how to add a custom program to my image. Bust just want to check that it is the way to do it.11:54
BlauskaerMI created a new layer and added a hello world program as a recipe, which compiles and everything.11:55
BlauskaerMThen I added IMAGE_INSTALL_append to my layer config file to move the program after compilation to the final image. Is this the "way" to do this kind of things?11:57
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cristianiorgaBlauskaerM: for testing purposes, yes12:06
cristianiorgaBlauskaerM: Usually, it's done via package groups12:07
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BlauskaerMcristianiorga: Thank you for you answer12:08
BlauskaerMcristianiorga: Do you know where in the manual I can find this?12:08
BlauskaerMyour*12:08
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cristianiorgaBlauskaerM: pheeww, tough question...12:09
BlauskaerMcristianiorga: Just wondered if you had it in your head12:09
BlauskaerMShould be able to find it on mu own with some googleing12:09
cristianiorgahttp://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#usingpoky-extend-customimage-customtasks12:10
BlauskaerMThank you :)12:11
BlauskaerMIn the last sentence in the 5.2.4 section, it says that I still need to add the packagegroup to the IMAGE_INSTALL variable. Should this be stated in the layer config file or where should I put it?12:17
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cristianiorgaBlauskaerM: hmmm, you can create a customized image also... that will include your own package grioup..12:22
BlauskaerMcristianiorga: I guess you know the followup question?12:24
BlauskaerMHow do I create a customized image? :P12:24
cristianiorgaBlauskaerM: pheew :-D take a look for core-image-sato (for example) in poky... do a grep on it, etc, you will figure it out12:25
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BlauskaerMcristianiorga: Hehe :P Will have a look at it12:26
bluelightningBlauskaerM: it's all in the sections of the manual around the one that cristianiorga linked above12:28
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21WABGCO2so for the latest kernel in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/ , is it only available to qemu arch or all arch?12:48
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Malooshello13:08
MaloosI have an error when I try to make an image in iso or hddimg13:08
Maloos"nothing provides syslinux"13:09
MaloosThe same configuration works well otherwise.13:09
MaloosAny  idea why ?13:09
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21WABGCO2for all kernel version in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/, which MACHINE are they available to?13:12
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chankit_for all kernel version in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/linux-yocto-dev/, which MACHINE are they available to?13:24
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bluelightninggreat... I would have answered, but they went13:31
bluelightningchankit_: I'm not sure, but I would assume all of the machines we normally support with linux-yocto13:33
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chankit_bluelightning: that's weird..I changed the provider to yocto-linux-dev and set the version to 3.19 but I got "version not available" and it switched to 3.17 instead13:56
chankit_I was using the generic 64 bit13:56
bluelightningchankit_: hmm, ok... not sure13:57
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chankit_bluelightning: I wish I can provide more input but I'm not with my work machine...14:02
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Karel1Hey! I'm trying to compile software for the image I made with 'bitbake core-image-base'. This software needs 'linux/types.h'. In Debian I would do 'apt-get source Linux', do 'make oldconfig' and 'make prepare' and point the compiler to the folder created (usually /usr/src/linux-xxxxx). How would I do the same for poky?14:21
Karel1I've tried using the kernel in poky/build/tmp/work/photonx-poky-linux/linux-yocto/3.14.24+gitAUTOINC+a227f20eff_02120556b0-r0.1/linux-photonx-standard-build/ but 'make oldconfig' and 'make prepare'  don't make 'linux/types.h'14:22
Karel1It's Makefile based software by the way14:23
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bluelightningKarel1: if you mean where would you find the kernel source, ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR} points to that directory14:53
bluelightningKarel1: however, linux/types.h can be found under the normal ${STAGING_INCDIR} as well14:53
Karel1bluelightning: That was what I meant, yes. Sorry I'm a development newbie. Where/when is ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR} defined? Can't see it with echo ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR}.14:57
bluelightningKarel1: it's a bitbake variable14:58
bluelightningKarel1: it's set in meta/conf/bitbake.conf, which will mean it'll be available anywhere you care to use it - but it won't be exported to the shell14:59
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rburtonKarel1: what bluelightning said first still stands - linux/type.h is a standard header so you don't need to do anything but include it15:04
rburton(unless you explicitly need to build against the kernel headers)15:04
Karel1bluelightning, rburton. Seems these were indeed the sources I need. Still have to set some variables, but that is specific to the tool I use. The tool builds kernel modules at some point in the build process, so that's why I probably need them. To bad this tool is badly documented.. Thanks for helping me so far!15:08
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BlauskaerMWhat is the main difference between MACHINE_EXTRA and MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA? Accordingly to the manual should drivers that are requiered for the machine to boot be assigned to MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA and the rest should be in MACHINE_EXTRA.15:37
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BlauskaerMWhat does that mean exactly? Will drivers that are in the essential variable be compiled into the kernel image?15:37
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BlauskaerMAnd the drivers that are in MACHINE EXTRA will be compiled and put into the rootfs filesystem?15:38
* paulg updated this morning and now python won't even stumble its way through do_patch() successfully.... :(15:39
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bluelightningpaulg: that's odd, it didn't fail here this morning15:54
paulgbluelightning, python-native is fine ; python for the target fails on the 1st patch.15:55
bluelightningBlauskaerM: the former will be installed as part of packagegroup-core-boot, the latter only if packagegroup-base is installed15:55
bluelightningpaulg: apparently I build python for the target...15:55
paulgI commented out the 1st patch and the 2nd fails too.  It is like the patches are out of sync with the uprev somehow.  Investigating....15:56
paulgand yes, I've already done a cleanssstate15:56
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bluelightningpaulg: python do_patch just passed here again... something odd is going on15:58
paulgpython patch fail log:   http://pastebin.com/3P0cihHq15:58
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paulgmy top commit is...15:59
paulgop3:~/poky$ git describe15:59
paulg1.7_M2-2535-g40d80f9e019115:59
paulgop3:~/poky$15:59
paulggit status shows no uncommitted files or similar...   investigation continues.16:00
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paulgbluelightning, wow this is strange.  The updated patch is clearly checked in, and yet the old 2.7.2 patch appears out of the ether and lands in the build directory.16:08
paulg...even after a cleansstate!16:09
paulgthe 2.7.9 version has an updated header, so they are easy to distinguish.16:09
paulgwhere the heck is it finding that old patch.16:09
* zeddii hands paulg a hammer16:09
zeddiiuse it as you see fit.16:10
paulgyeah, I'm getting pretty close to wanting to smash things over here..16:10
bluelightningthat is bizarre... I can't even imagine a mechanism for that issue happening, not as you have described it at least16:12
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rburtonpaulg: another layer providing patches in a append?16:14
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paulgrburton, yeah it turns out that was it ; the patch of the same name was present in zeddii 's meta-virtualization layer for some reason.16:16
paulgI'll get him to zap it and then we should be ok.16:17
* zeddii is simply elite and runs ahead of the curve16:18
zeddiithat's my story and I'm sticking to it.16:18
paulg...and off the cliff.16:18
zeddiiwhat patch is this ?16:18
* zeddii has git rm ready16:18
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bluelightninghmm, well, mystery solved I guess16:19
paulgzeddii, I'll send it to you once I've tested it.16:20
zeddiiTESTING ?16:20
zeddiiwaa?16:20
zeddiinow who's elite ?16:20
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rburtonelite for testing, or elite for not testing?16:20
zeddiifor testing16:21
zeddiithat's a badge.16:21
* paulg wants a 1/2hr of his life back16:21
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zeddiipaulg, sorry. no refunds.16:23
ulf`Hi16:26
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ohmyhello everybody16:39
ohmyi've just built fsl-community-bsp and having some troubles to generate the rootfs16:40
ohmyafter one day of building i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10410662/ can anyone help me please ?16:40
ohmythe error is about ERROR: qtbase-examples i don't know why it was not built16:41
ohmyin fact i had some issues with QtWebkit that refuses to compile so i disabled it16:42
ohmyi dont know how much it impacts the compilation qtbase-examples (it shouldnt)16:42
nerdboymoin16:44
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cyclistI'm trying to bring a freescale imx6 based board up, and I'm having problems with the network.  The rootfs is core-image-full-cmdline.  On the first boot, it brought up the both lo and eth0.  dmesg also reported my ethernet device.  On subsequent boots, neither of them work.17:23
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nerdboycyclist: systemd or sysvinit?17:46
nerdboythe latter with console image maybe?17:46
nerdboyqt5 demo image ran fine on wandboard last time i tried17:47
nerdboycouple months ago anyway...17:48
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kergothhuh, i'll have to poke at the new extensible sdk17:56
kergothust noticed it was merged17:56
bluelightningkergoth: please do, I'd definitely like to get your feedback17:58
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cyclistactually, I just found my problem.  There was a leftover file from ifup in /var/volatile/run18:04
kergoththat doesn't really make a great deal of sense. volatile is volatile, ramdisk, it should be empty at each boot18:05
cyclistwell, it's not being mounted as a ramdisk at this time18:05
cyclistthat will quickly change :)18:05
kergothwonder if we should have a cleanup startup script to clear out paths like that which old state, as other distros tend to do, for cases wher eit's not volatile18:07
kergothof course, run isn't a great example, since most distros put that under /run now18:07
rburtonisn't that a symlink into /run now?18:09
rburton(should be if it isn't)18:09
cyclistI'm just going to put it in my fstab18:09
kergothgood point, one would hope so18:09
cyclistI'll make /run a symlink to /var/volatile/run18:09
kergothi think really it should be the other way around, to align with desktops, but whichever works :)18:10
cyclistand mount a ramdisk /var/volatile/run18:10
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cyclistI could do that, instead, if you think that it's the best wy18:11
cyclister, way18:11
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cyclistthis was just a test, anyway.  I really want to use the lsb rootfs18:12
* kergoth nods18:12
cyclistit's a real Frankenstein's monster.  I had to use the SDK for my system to build the kernel and glom that into the Yocto rootfs18:14
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nerdboykergoth: i think i still have a cleanup thing for that18:26
nerdboywas leaving dhcp and some other cruft from hard power off18:26
nerdboyrpi18:26
nerdboyhaven't played with any of my images lately though18:27
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cyclistthe kernel is reporting 5 uarts and a console on /dev/ttymxc0.  Do I connect some kind of cable to my usb port to be able to use it?18:29
cyclistI don't see any other ports when I open the case18:29
nerdboylooks like i added a check_network_cruft() to the networking script18:29
nerdboywandboard?18:30
cyclistadvantech ubs-20018:30
cyclistit reports itself as a Sabre-SD18:31
nerdboyiMX6 quad?18:31
cyclistdual18:31
nerdboywant to try mainline manual kernel build?18:31
* nerdboy does that for wandboard/udoo/beaglebone18:32
nerdboyRCN wiki page for sabre-lite18:33
nerdboymight need to tweak a bit18:33
nerdboyhttps://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/i.MX6x+SABRE+Lite18:33
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cyclistI would have to add support in arch/arm for it.  The SDK has the files I need in mach-mx6 rather that mach-imx18:33
nerdboyback to serial console, that would be board/vendor-specific18:33
cyclistthe wy that they say to connect is thru telnet18:34
nerdboywandboard has DB-9 and udoo has microUSB18:34
nerdboyi mean physically18:34
cyclistI understand18:35
* nerdboy 's fingers still waking up...18:35
nerdboybrain comes along later, usually...18:35
* Crofton wonders if we could combine #yocto and #oe into one channel, since there is little difference in technical content and it is annoying remembering who is only in one versus the other18:36
cyclistwhat's #oe?18:36
nerdboyCrofton: as opposed to herding cats back and forth?18:36
nerdboycyclist: openembedded18:37
cyclistok18:37
kergothCrofton: don't forget the mostly empty #poky18:38
* kergoth yawns18:38
nerdboythe serial console should be one of those ttymxc{0,1,2} devices18:39
cyclistit says that it's using ttymxc018:39
* nerdboy forgot about #poky18:39
nerdboyoops18:39
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kergoth:)18:40
nerdboyis it in your inittab?18:40
nerdboykergoth: are you dragging your ass to elc this year?18:40
cyclistno, it's near the top of the kernel messages18:40
cyclistin dmesg18:40
nerdboytry adding this18:41
nerdboyT1:23:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttymxc0 115200 vt10218:41
nerdboycorrect getty name as needed18:41
cyclistand connect a cable where?18:41
nerdboymicrousb?  ttl serial header?18:42
kergothI'd like to, as I've only been once a few years ago, but not sure if I want to leave my wife to take care of our fussy 3 month old that only sleeps a few hours at a time just yet18:42
cyclistonly thing I have us a usb a port18:42
kergothwill see18:42
* nerdboy went on a two-month field project on the north coast shortly after first baby came in grad school18:43
nerdboyher dad came to stay with her...18:43
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nerdboyof course, i still get reminded that "you left me!" every now and then...18:44
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* Crofton left his wife in Virginia to deal with the snow and is CA for two weeks ...18:45
* nerdboy considers any sort of advice risky business18:45
Croftonkergoth, we'd love to see you at OEDAM18:46
nerdboykergoth: i will hold a pint of old speckled hen for you18:46
nerdboycyclist: there has to be a serial header/port somewhere...18:46
kergothat the moment, at somewhere between 3am and 5am the baby starts waking up trying and failing to poop, and continues this every 10-30 minutes from then until aruond 6:30am, periodically making himself cry, every night. i usually end up bringing him into the living room and staying there the rest of hte night so she can at least get some uninterrupted sleep..18:47
nerdboyno console interface would be a huge design fail18:47
kergothfun fun18:47
cyclistthere's a metal plat in the box covering most of the board.  I'll try removing it18:47
cyclister, plate18:47
Croftonmy friend had like 5+ kids, we wondered why he spent so much time doing field work ....18:48
kergothyikes18:48
nerdboykergoth: fisrt one had repeated ear infections for a while...  plus nobody told us to stop (night)feeding at 6 mos or so...18:48
nerdboy9 mos later we were seriously sleep-deprived...18:49
kergothouch18:49
kergothwe're dealing with some colic and reflux and general gassiness at the moment18:49
kergothnot too bad, though18:50
nerdboyCrofton: field work is surprisingly relaxing and stress-relieving18:50
nerdboyyou are starting to see why...18:50
* nerdboy tries another test18:53
nerdboyif it freezes up and i drop off, it was a fail...18:53
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paulgwhat the hell?   openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org is an open list but openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org is subscribers only?19:03
* paulg shakes his head19:04
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cyclistI found a connector.  There are 2 boards in the system.  a small main board, and a board with hdmi,ethernet and usb ports.  The main board has a small white 4 pin connector.  The model of the main board is rom-742019:06
cyclistI found the data sheet.  There's a debug port cable available.19:11
nerdboyis it different than a "normal" ttl cable?19:15
nerdboywell, "normal" on open source hardware (rpi, bbb, etc)19:16
cyclistI can't find what the connector is for in the docuemntation.  The cable is for a larger motherboard that the module connects to.19:18
cyclistthe eval kit19:18
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cyclistlooks like it's a power cable19:19
cyclistit's for a power cable, that is19:20
nerdboythere should be at least one of the following: 1) physical usb/serial port19:21
nerdboy2) physical serial header (could be 4 or 5 pins)19:21
cyclistthe 2 boards connect together using something similar to a pci or isa card in a pc19:21
nerdboy3) physical gpio header with serial pins19:21
nerdboy4 some other header with serial pins to make a damn serial port19:22
cyclistthe processor board has gold fingers like a pci card in a pc19:22
cyclistall the inputs/outputs are on those connections19:22
nerdboyapparently you don't get console without the rest of the eval kit19:23
cyclistso, the seiral port is there, but there is no easy way to connect to it19:23
cyclistthat's wht I'm thinking19:23
cyclistOh well, I have a console now thru ssh, now that I finally got the network up19:24
cyclistIt's been a real PITA getting this up w/o it19:25
cyclisthere's a link to the module:19:26
cyclisthttp://www.advantech.com/products/Computer-on-Module/ROM-7420/mod_a091469f-b4b1-4929-be51-a9237d5ba40a.aspx19:27
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* nerdboy chugs along mostlky without serial console unless absolutely necessary19:29
nerdboybeaglebone has useful blinky lights for boot/other status19:29
nerdboyrpi too, though not quite as informative...19:31
cyclistthis is the first one I've ever done, so I've been fliying blindly the whole time19:31
nerdboyseems like you managed not to fly into any terrain19:31
nerdboyany landing is a good landing...19:31
* kergoth notes that meta-intel/meta-minnow are still broken relative to current master due to the linux-yocto bumps / removals19:31
cyclistI've crashed into a few mountains, though19:31
nerdboyyou got an ssh login19:32
nerdboygood enough landing at this point...19:32
cyclistthat's what I'm thinking19:33
nerdboyso maybe you brushed a few trees and peed your pants a little19:33
nerdboyit's all good19:34
cyclistI've learned alot along the way19:34
* nerdboy full of "colorful metaphaors"...19:34
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rburtonkergoth: meta-minnow won't be fixed, for meta-intel there's a master-next branch you want.  we're having a slight issue of manpower on meta-intel right now, darren is overcommitted about 300% :/19:58
kergothah19:58
kergothis minnow in an unsupported state?19:59
* paulg noted that the meta-intel bbappends for the kernel need updating/renaming....19:59
paulgsome of the kernels referenced in there have been pushed off a cliff by zeddii recently.20:00
rburtonkergoth: to make it build against master i guess all it needs is the 3.10 kernel added there, but i don't know if anyone is planning on updating it to the newer kernels20:00
rburtonpaulg: see my reply to kergoth20:00
kergothit'd be nice for at least the main yocto bsps to synchronize such removals with core rather than falling behind like all the third party layers :)20:01
rburtonkergoth: it would, yes20:02
rburtondid anyone mention that we're hiring x86 BSP engineers? :)20:02
kergothhah :)20:02
kergothfair enough20:02
rburtondarren is doing too many jobs at once, he fixed the kernels and pushed to master-next for testing.  they work, so just need to find a timeslice so he can merge to master.20:03
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nerdboyrburton: maybe we could fix the overcommitted part with conrtact support?20:38
nerdboy"we" meaning VCT...20:38
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* nerdboy was extremely overcommited for about 2 yrs21:51
nerdboysucks21:51
nerdboythe "agile my ass..." project21:52
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kergothi think an agile ass is something else entirely22:09
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cyclistI'm only getting /run/utmp written when I use the lsb rootfs22:19
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nerdboydo you still need ro-rootfs enabled to get all the volatile stuff?22:41
* nerdboy hasn't looked at that recently22:41
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