Thursday, 2015-02-26

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chankitI tried checking out the newest kernel in linux-yocto-dev and I got NOTE: multiple providers are available for runtime kernel-module-ipt-masquerade (linux-yocto, linux-dummy)09:11
chankitNOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER entry to match kernel-module-ipt-masquerade09:11
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-YoctoAutoBuilder- build #215 of nightly-world is complete: Failure [failed BuildImages] Build details are at
chankitnerdboy: ping09:25
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bluelightningmorning all09:31
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chankitbluelightning: what's the latest kernel available in linux-yocto-dev?09:39
nerdboydid you set preferred_provider/preferred_version?09:40
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chankitnerdboy: I set it to linux-yocto-dev and set the preffered version to 3.1909:41
chankitnerdboy: anyways that problem now disappeared but it kept falling back to 3.1709:42
nerdboythat recipe has to exist...09:42
chankitthat's the reason I'm asking bluelightning if the latest version linux-yocto-dev has is 3.17 or 3.1909:42
chankitI saw 3.19 on linux-yocto-dev webpage though09:43
chankitsuppose if I put 3.19%, does it take 3.19 or it only takes 3.19* ?09:43
chankitanyways I'm heading off...sorry to bother with different problems lol09:44
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chankitgood day to you guys09:44
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nerdboynot quite...09:45
* nerdboy almost at bedtime09:45
chankitnerdboy: good night then :-)09:47
chankitwhere u from?09:47
chankitat least u r warm there :-)09:48
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lpapphi, what is the reason for mentioning the old dizzy version in here?
lpappdaisy, sorry.10:26
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lpappI am thinking about upgrading my Yocto layer from dylan to daisy or dizzy. Is there any risk about going directly to 1.7.1 instead of 1.6.2 given that the 1.8 is coming soon anyway and then 1.6.2 would look a bit old?10:34
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lpappthe glibc migration sounds cool in dizzy.10:35
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mario-goulartbluelightning: some days ago you asked why firefox from meta-browser is so old (sorry for taking so long to reply).   It's just that nobody has bothered to update it.  No special reason.12:20
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bluelightningmario-goulart: ah ok, thanks... I don't remember who was asking about that13:02
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Guest70259Hey! I'm trying to compile binaries and kernel modules from source code provided by another company. It compiles fine using Debian's gcc (v4.7.2) and kernel sources (with apt-get source linux). When using Poky's tools (from meta-toolchain, gcc 4.9.1) and kernel (from ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR}) , I have to use some includes (not suprising, as they might change in kernel versions) but the compiling ultimatily chrashes on some errors I'm14:06
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Guest70259(error: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast [-Werror], error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type) Is there a way to work around these issues without having to modify the source code?14:06
neverpanicGuest70259: your first message is cut off after "some errors I'm"14:07
Guest70259I'm not familiar with14:07
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neverpanicsounds like a missing header; do you see any warnings related to that?14:07
Guest70259Nope, but I might have included the wrong directories/headers? Specifically, if I don't manually edit the includes the compiler first stops at 'fatal error: asm/types.h: No such file or directory  #include <asm/types.h>'14:10
Guest70259There was more missing, so I added -I$(KERNDIR)/arch/x86/include/uapi -I$(KERNDIR)/include/uapi -I$(KERNDIR)/include/generated/uapi -I$(KERNDIR)/arch/x86/include/generated/ -I$(KERNDIR)/arch/x86/include/generated/uapi to the compile flags14:11
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ohmyhello everybody15:48
ohmyi've been using yocto since few days, on IMX6 sabre light15:49
ohmyi'm happy with, i was able to build my root file system etc. Now i'd like to build meta-toolchain-qt5 but it fails with QtWebKit15:50
ohmyi dont want QtWebkit at all, and i'd like to know where to disable it15:50
ohmyin fact QtWebkit also fails to build when building the rootfs and i disabled it in local.conf, however i dont know where to disable it for the cross toolchain15:51
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hitlin37Hi, I'm trying to add aufs support in yocto kernel 3.10.17. so i followed steps mentioned on aufs page.16:05
hitlin37but during boot, i can see : mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'16:05
hitlin37did anyone successfully applied aufs patches for 3.10.1716:06
ohmyany idea about how to disable building QtWebkit when building the antive sdk using bitbake meta-toolchain-qt5 please ?16:06
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hitlin37ohmy: you can look into the recipe about how it is building16:09
ohmyhitlin37: where to start from ? which file please ? i tried which contains alsmost nothing16:09
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bluelightninghitlin37: honestly I thought linux-yocto already had AUFS support and it just needed enabling in the config...16:11
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ohmyhitlin37: i'm new, i just got, do_compile 1 task failed16:11
ohmyhitlin37: i've already disable every QtWebkit stuff from my local.conf :(16:11
paulgyeah, aufs is in 3.1016:13
paulglinux-yocto-3.10.git$git log --oneline fs/aufs16:13
paulg9fc2721a7c36 aufs: core support16:13
bluelightningpaulg: ok, thanks, I was sure I remembered it going in16:14
paulgI can't say I've personally used it there in 3.10, but I did poke at it a bit in 3.14/3.1716:14
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ohmyplease :(16:17 already had support. let me have a look16:17
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hitlin37but then when i applied the patches, it we4nt sucessfully16:19
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hitlin37it should have worked and rejected those patches. no?16:19
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bluelightningohmy: it looks like that stuff is basically not optional for the SDK, you will either need to edit recipes-qt/packagegroups/ or hack around it by setting e.g. USE_RUBY_pn-packagegroup-qt5-toolchain-target = ""16:20
hitlin37i untar the raw kernel, there is no aufs16:22
hitlin37from the aufs homepage, it has never merged in mailine, hence they give patch seperatly.16:22
bluelightninghang on16:23
hitlin37and since i applied patches successfully, that shows there is no aufs at all in defgault kernel 3.10.1716:23
bluelightningyou say you untar the raw kernel - which kernel sources do you mean? it sounds like you aren't actually using linux-yocto16:23
hitlin37or may be my vendor removed it.16:23
ohmybluelightning:  thanks16:23
hitlin37ya.i got one from my vendfor...some freescale vendor.16:23
bluelightningalright then... in that case I would recommend speaking to the vendor if you have issues (assuming nobody else here has any better advice, that is)16:24
hitlin37but could it happen that yocto applies aufs patch and vendor removes it?16:25
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bluelightningit's possible, but it's perhaps more likely that they are supplying their own tree based on mainline16:27
hitlin37i do have their steps for building directly from yocto16:28
hitlin37will give that a try now.16:28
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hitlin37luckly i have already build that last week, but never tried it, so will see if i can boot with that uImage16:31
ohmybluelightning: recipes-qt/packagegroups/ does not contain qtwebkit :(16:32
bluelightningohmy: which branch are you on?16:32
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ohmyah it does16:33
ohmybluelightning: it does, i'm using master16:33
ohmyohmy: within USE_RUBY16:33
bluelightningright, yes16:34
ohmybluelightning: in fact i wanted to disable qtwebkit because i dont need it but also because it fails to build due to some missing symbols qwebchannel16:34
kergothtwo systemd bbappends in two layers which share the same priority = non-deterministic bbappend apply order, so if both append to SRC_URI, the SRC_URI value is non-deterministic, leading to sstate reuse problems16:37
bluelightningohmy: I don't know but that may have something to do with qtbase not being configured to support building qtwebkit, but then if you don't actually want to build qtwebkit it's a moot point16:37
kergothwonder what it'd take to write a script to warn about such cases16:37
* kergoth fixes meta-mentor16:37
hitlin37ah... i can not open menuconfig: Failed to parse arguments: Option "--disable-factory" is no longer supported in this version of gnome-terminal.16:38
hitlin37on 14.0416:38
ohmybluelightning: i really need to cross toolchain but as i said it fails to build just cause of QtWebkit :(16:38
bluelightninghitlin37: some fixes just went in for that bug16:38
hitlin37you guys use some different term?16:38
hitlin37so should i fetch the sources again to get the fix?16:39
bluelightningif you are using master, yes16:39
kergothbluelightning: any thoughts on this re: bitbake-layers? hmm, maybe just an indication of when there any given recipe has multiple appends in same-priority layers, and let the user sort out whether it matters given what the appends do16:39
bluelightningohmy: well disable it using one of the mechanisms I mentioned above16:40
* hitlin37 this is what i'm using : repo init -u git:// -b imx-3.10.17-1.0.0_ga16:40
bluelightningkergoth: we could certainly check it there, but we could possibly pick up on it in bitbake itself16:40
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kergothhmm, good point16:42
kergoththe odd thing is, i just ran a bitbake -S printdiff on this, and it didn't show the detail about the variable changing, despite having full siginfo in the sstate cache. i had to bitbake -S, then bitbake-diffsigs between the sigdata and siginfo by hand :\16:43
bluelightninghitlin37: depends on whether the person maintaining that repo has updated the revision to include the fix or not16:43
bluelightninghitlin37: you can always just cut the offending command out of meta/lib/oe/ or use a different OE_TERMINAL value to use a different terminal16:43
* hitlin37 i read this :
ohmybluelightning: thanks, tried removing qtwebkit from but it's still built when i call bitbake meta-toolchain-qt516:44
bluelightningkergoth: hmm... the thing is it ought not to be actually non-deterministic, if the priority is the same I'd at least hope that it would depend on the ordering in BBLAYERS16:45
kergothgood point16:45
kergothoh, crap, the two layers i thought had the same priority don't. this shouldn't have been possible, yet the delta clearly shows the SRC_URI += happening in the wrong order. gah16:45
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* kergoth thinks more caffeine is in order16:45
bluelightningohmy: ok, well I don't actually know much about meta-qt5, somewhere there is a dependency on qtwebkit... the files produced by bitbake -g meta-toolchain-qt5 might help you track it down16:46
kergothand our setup scripts reorder the bblayers by BBFILE_PRIORITY, but they sort by both priority and name, so that should have been predictable anyway..16:46
* kergoth grumbles, gets more caffeine, and digs further16:46
ohmybluelightning:  thank you so much16:46
hitlin37is there any release notes from yocto i can read . just to see if they added aufs in 3.10.1716:47
bluelightningI really hope we can kill meta-toolchain-* recipes at some point :/16:47
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kergothwe should really add better diff info to diffsigs at some point16:48
bluelightninghitlin37: this is really something where I'd recommend you talk to the vendor to get a definitive answer - it's not actually "our" kernel that you're building16:48
kergothcomparing two giant strings should really do a word based diff if we can manage it16:48
kergothnot easy to spot a difference between huge variables16:48
hitlin37i agree....already mailed the,m16:48
bluelightningkergoth: yes, the tools are still very much lacking16:48
hitlin37thanks bluelightning16:48
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nerdboylooks like i already missed the morning toolchain fun?16:49
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ohmyblueness: thank you so much17:04
ohmyblueness: QtWebkit dependencies cames fro QtQuick1 that i do not need also17:05
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angolinihitlin37: this link may help
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kergothwhat the hell. if i add this layer between two of the meta-mentor layers, it changes the order of the patches they add to the systemd SRC_URI17:11
kergotheven though the order of these two layers relative to one another *does not change*17:11
kergothand the layer added between doesn't touch systemd at all17:11
* kergoth confused17:11
fraydoes it have any anon python that is play games with system configs?17:11
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kergothnot that i can find, nope17:12
kergoththis is weird.17:12
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kergothoh that's just wrong17:27
khem`there is no end in sight to innovation17:27
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ulf`Hi khem`, got meta-clang all fixed up? :)17:32
bluenesswas ohmy talking to me?17:33
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nerdboyprobably <cough> bluelightning <cough>17:42
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bluelightningnerdboy: you should get that cough seen to ;)17:42
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khem`kergoth: atleast he has terminology right :)17:46
ulf`khem! :)17:47
nerdboybetter video is up of buildroot vs.oe talk17:47
kergothi just realized we named our distro layer the distro name17:49
kergothso after the metadata is finalized, our BBFILE_PRIORITY_mel is destroyed in favor of BBFILE_PRIORITY17:49
kergothgiving entirely different results than an unfinalized datastore17:49
kergothi bet that's part of this problem. i still don't think the order of hte two layers hsould change based on the inclusion of an additional layer between them, however17:50
* kergoth tests changing to mel-layer as most other layers do17:50
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ulf`Hi dvhart17:50
* dvhart waves17:51
khem`presenter is biased towards BR its normal when you know a system and dont know the one you are comparing against17:52
kergothBR has its place. if i was doing board bringup, i'd use that rather than something yocto based to keep overhead down during the intial phases17:52
khem`my devshell is launched with root user17:53
khem`hmm how is that happening17:53
kergothpseudo :)17:54
kergothit's not really root17:54
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nerdboykergoth you are a magnet for corner cases...17:54
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kergoththere's a reason most layer names end in the seemingly redundant '-layer' :)17:54
kergothgrr, bitbake's -D is even less useful than it used to be. i'm staring right at a parselog.debug() and it doesn't hit the log, even though i know it's being run17:55
* nerdboy is all-of-sudden doing 3 days at foss4g...17:56
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nerdboythat's twice in march so maybe you could do once?  hmm?17:56
nerdboy{nudge nudge} {wink wink}17:57
bluelightningkergoth: yeah I had wondered about the collection name override clash in the past, another reason to rework that in a future release17:57
khem`so none of my tab completions work in devshell17:57
bluelightningkhem`: some env var we are filtering out maybe?17:58
nerdboykergoth: bluelightning claims to be going but iirc he was on the wiki list last year...17:58
khem`bluelightning: I use zsh and it complains about at starting point too on insecure use of root prevs17:58
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kergothkhem`: you can work around that pretty easily. here, i'll get you the snippet from my dotfiles17:59
bluelightningkhem`: right because I'm sure it thinks it is running as root, from its perspective it is17:59
bluelightningwe should really print some kind of message at the start because people often get confused about devshell apparently running as root18:00
kergothgood idea18:00
bluelightningsomeone want to file an enhancement? ;)18:00
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kergothyeah, i suspect there's still a bitbake bug here. going to change the layer name first to make absolutely certain thats not related18:14
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kergothwell, i found it21:10
kergothbitbake doesn't correctly retain layer priority order for append application between % and non-% appends21:12
kergothorder is only retained within each of the two21:12
kergothself.appendlist on the cooker is iterated in get_file_append, but it's a dictionary, and the % and non-% are two entries in that dict, they're only merged in the aforementioned iteration21:12
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nerdboywhat is that 2 hours or so?21:18
* nerdboy hands kergoth the blue ribbon and a cookie21:19
nerdboytotally makes sense *now*21:19
kergothworked on this for a few hours, yeah, i'm ready to take a break and go kill some things in a game now21:21
rewittkergoth: What things are you going to kill?21:22
* rewitt not been killing but running from the alien lately21:22
kergothlikely a variety of different things in guild wars 2, just started playing it recently21:24
rewittkergoth: I played that when it was first released, was fun for a while21:25
rewittIt's probably a completely different game at this point :)21:25
* nerdboy killing proprietary formats21:26
nerdboyapparently we are now doing an open document freedom day event...21:26
nerdboyyay, another march deadline...21:27
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martinnaughtonquick question: what is the difference between using opkg and layers?22:45
martinnaughtonyou are installing with both but not sure why both exist in yocot22:46
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bluelightningmartinnaughton: well, they aren't really related22:49
bluelightninglayers are a way of organising metadata which is used to build components of the system (i.e. recipes)22:49
bluelightningopkg is one of the options for package management which is used to create packages from build output22:50
bluelightning(and manage those packages on the target)22:50
bluelightningso they are really at opposite ends of the build22:50
bluelightningnot sure if that answers your question... ?22:50
martinnaughtonbluelightning: thanks, just taking that in22:51
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martinnaughtonbluelightning: one thing that confused me was java was a layer. i thought that could be a package22:52
martinnaughtonto be handled by opkg22:53
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bluelightningmartinnaughton: it's a layer that allows you to build java, from which packages can be created22:58
bluelightningmartinnaughton: you may be thinking of our system kind of like a distro, but it's not22:58
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martinnaughtonyea i think i am. been using yocto for a while and that question was always bothering me23:00
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martinnaughtoni thought opkg could get packages remotely but it can only get them from the operating system23:03
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martinnaughtonso they have to be there to install them23:03
bluelightningno, it definitely can get packages from a remote server23:03
bluelightningit wouldn't be much use otherwise...23:03
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martinnaughtonbut then you could get a java package remotely to install it23:04
bluelightningyou sure could, if someone build and published a feed containing java packages using the meta-java layer23:04
martinnaughtonoh ok so no one has done that yet. makes more sense now23:06
martinnaughtonso if everyone did a feed for that packages would there be a need for layers then except for the core stuf23:06
martinnaughtontheir packages*23:07
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paul_gI see YoctoAutoBuilder spew random build results here now and again.  Is there a list somewhere that shows what the build coverage it does is?23:34
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nerdboyjama's state of bitbake world maybe...23:37
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nerdboygoes to the list, so you'll need to search for the last one23:37
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paul_gI was just thinking that a simple test -- "can the build appliance build the build appliance" would be nice to have coverage on.23:39
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bluelightningpaul_g: we certainly do build the build appliance, but testing of it may still be manual I suspect23:51
paul_gbluelightning, yeah it is that 2nd part that would reveal all the interesting stuff, like the recent python __ctype stuff etc.23:52
paul_greminds me ; I need to kick off a build and see if it is now fixed.23:53
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