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| [w00t] | Hello | 05:46 |
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| [w00t] | Is it possible to check out two git repos in your SRC_URI with different GITDIRs? I get an error in do_fetch when I've got two repos, but individually they both work. The error is "sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" | 05:49 |
| [w00t] | nevermind :) | 05:54 |
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| bluelightning | morning all | 09:11 |
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| abelal | morning bluelightning... although it is some time from then :) | 10:08 |
| bluelightning | abelal: http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 10:08 |
| bluelightning | but it is still morning here FWIW ;) | 10:08 |
| raykinsella78 | good morning | 10:09 |
| abelal | well that's enlightening :) | 10:25 |
| abelal | bluelightning: ^ | 10:25 |
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| fredcadete | hello channel | 10:48 |
| fredcadete | I am having a weird thing using meta-qt5 and was wondering if anyone has an idea | 10:48 |
| fredcadete | for the yocto environment, qt.conf is generated in https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/recipes-qt/qt5/nativesdk-qtbase_git.bb and Sysroot is set | 10:49 |
| fredcadete | but for the SDK, it is generate from https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/classes/populate_sdk_qt5.bbclass and Sysroot is not set | 10:49 |
| fredcadete | the result is that a .pro file that uses QT_SYSROOT will work under Yocto but not under the SDK | 10:50 |
| fredcadete | I was wondering if this is intentional | 10:50 |
| fredcadete | aaaanyway, I wil probably post to the list then | 10:58 |
| fredcadete | maybe with a patch already | 10:58 |
| fredcadete | we'll see | 10:58 |
| fredcadete | it's a bit chilly for this time of year, don't you think? | 10:58 |
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| Crofton | I wish the meta-iot-middleware layer people would stop copying recipes out of meta-oe | 13:27 |
| Crofton | and if they really need to, please credit where the recipe came from | 13:27 |
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| RP | rburton: ^^^ | 13:36 |
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| JaMa | Crofton: you mean meta-intel-iot-middleware ? | 13:38 |
| JaMa | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layer/meta-intel-iot-middleware/ says it depends on meta-oe | 13:38 |
| Crofton | interesting | 13:40 |
| Crofton | http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/?q=zmq | 13:41 |
| rburton | hopefully the whitelist class will stop all of that | 13:41 |
| Crofton | whitelist class? | 13:42 |
| rburton | well if you paid attention to oe-core instead of swanning around caving and at hack camps... | 13:42 |
| Crofton | besides the duping, the thing that really annoyes me is the failure to credit the source | 13:42 |
| Crofton | rofl | 13:43 |
| Crofton | so much to pay attention to | 13:43 |
| paulg_ | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/67780 | 13:43 |
| zeddii | that Crofton .. always out having fun! | 13:43 |
| Crofton | excellent idead | 13:43 |
| Crofton | within hours of arriving at camp I was getting OE feedback | 13:44 |
| georgem | Strange... getting errno=No route to host when doing 'recipetool create -o test.bb git://gitlabserver/Test/test.git;protocol=ssh;user=git' even though I can ssh to gitlabserver. Has anyone else tried protocol=ssh with git fetcher? | 13:45 |
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| Crofton | I'll be amused by the first person to argue against the whitelist using the "We need to make sure the recipe is maintained" argument | 13:45 |
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| denix | Crofton: you seem to be too energetic this morning after your vacation - don't worry, it will wear off quickly... :) | 13:52 |
| * zeddii experienced that this week. | 13:52 | |
| zeddii | crushed in two hours | 13:52 |
| * zeddii sobs | 13:52 | |
| * paulg_ works hard at crushing zeddii 's will to live. | 13:52 | |
| * zeddii hands a bit more of his dead soul to paulg as this weeks payment | 13:53 | |
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| Crofton | denix, I am still in CLT | 14:02 |
| Crofton | waiting for plane at 1120 | 14:02 |
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| denix | Crofton: flying home? it's just few hours drive from there... | 14:04 |
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| Crofton | I know | 14:05 |
| Crofton | I woul dneed to rent a car and find my lugguage | 14:06 |
| Crofton | by the time I dealt with overhead flying is better | 14:06 |
| Crofton | there was no way I could have drove home last night without falling asleep | 14:06 |
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| aj_c | how is called the concept of virtual/any or RUNTIME_any variables in yocto? | 15:38 |
| aj_c | an example that what I'm talking about is virtual/kernel variable | 15:39 |
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| kergoth | what exactly is the question? | 15:45 |
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| kergoth | So, need an opinion, I'm going to submit my host-user-contaminated test to oe-core insane.bbclass, do folks think it should be in WARN_QA or ERROR_QA by default? See https://github.com/MentorEmbedded/meta-sourcery/blob/master/classes/package_qa_sourcery.bbclass#L23 | 15:46 |
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| aj_c | looking the documentation i answer my own question, was looking about the PREFERRED_PROVIDER and VIRTUAL-RUNTIME | 15:51 |
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| bluelightning | aj_c: VIRTUAL-RUNTIME is just a convention for variable naming, there's nothing special about it | 15:55 |
| bluelightning | the virtual/ prefix for "virtual" targets is mostly just convention as well although there are some isolated bits of code that look at it | 15:55 |
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| Crofton | bha, another flight cancelled | 15:56 |
| Crofton | I retreated to the lounge, i have a seat on the next flight, but I think there is about to be a riot | 15:57 |
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| moto-timo | JaMa: for python-pyparted should we use a git tag instead? I don't see another publicly available tarball | 16:40 |
| kergoth | hmm | 16:40 |
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| JaMa | moto-timo: just set SRCREV to match with version tag | 16:48 |
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| moto-timo | JaMa: you got it :) The perl modules I'll do another way with patches | 17:14 |
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| vmeson | kergoth: sounds like it _should_ be an error. No doubt that will trip someone up but they should fix the error. | 19:28 |
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| vmeson | Errror now, revert to warning if people squeal with the plan of making it a hard error for 2.1 ? | 19:29 |
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| ljose | Hi, I'm new to yocto creating a recipe for my package, how can I build a package for the BUILD machine to be part of the SDK? | 19:43 |
| kergoth | BBCLASSEXTEND += "nativesdk", then add nativesdk-yourrecipe to TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK to add it to the sdk | 19:44 |
| kergoth | nativesdk is like native, except the output of the build will run on SDKMACHINE, not the build machine, and it emits packages for use in the sdk | 19:44 |
| ljose | And that must be a separate recipe that the one used to build the HOST packages? | 19:45 |
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| kergoth | WIP from meta-mel: https://github.com/kergoth/poky/compare/master...kergoth:for-upstream | 21:27 |
| kergoth | lets see, what next.. | 21:27 |
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| seebs | Hey, if people want to experiment with New Pseudo, there is now a new branch in the pseudo git tree. seebs/reshuffle. Adds a profiling feature, a couple of reasonably mild performance tweaks, and a major feature allowing it to be configured to use extended attributes (whenever possible) instead of IPC to a database server. | 22:56 |
| seebs | Performance is... slightly odd. On smallish real tasks like using tar, it appears to reduce the pseudo performance hit by 30-50% for a lot of workloads. On the entire-rootfs-build-process, it may actually make wall clock time worse, and I've not managed to track down why. | 22:57 |
| seebs | But! It's around if people are curious or want to see what madness I've been up to. | 22:57 |
| neverpanic | I've always been wondering if I could patch pseudo to hide files a recipe doesn't explicitly depend on to increase build reproducibility | 22:58 |
| neverpanic | I guess that's quite a large endeavour, though. | 22:58 |
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| seebs | Huh. Interesting thought. Getting the list in place would be hard. | 22:59 |
| seebs | But it's a neat idea. Some kind of "don't allow access to any file unless it's being-created or is already in the database". | 22:59 |
| neverpanic | Yeah -- and the performance hit would probably also be significant | 22:59 |
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| kergoth | or you could just do all your builds in a chroot, so even if its influenced by the host, it at least always does so the same way :) | 23:01 |
| kergoth | aboriginal has an interesting technique, though it only helps for binaries, it replaces the user's PATH with a path it creates that has symlinks to the specific host binaries it needs to have available | 23:02 |
| kergoth | so e.g. /usr/bin isn't in the PATH | 23:02 |
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| neverpanic | My concern is autoconf automatically picking up a dependency that's in the sysroot but I don't want it to pick up | 23:02 |
| kergoth | doesn't help other inspections of host files, but interesting nontheless, particularly since it's pretty trivial to do | 23:02 |
| neverpanic | That basically means using a separate chroot (or sysroot) for each recipe build | 23:03 |
| kergoth | neverpanic: I think we really need per-recipe sysroots constructed from DEPENDS. | 23:03 |
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| kergoth | right | 23:03 |
| kergoth | we have the info available in the metadata to do it, now, at least a task has access to its dep info, thats how the aclocal copying in autotools.bbclass works. | 23:03 |
| neverpanic | Yeah, we've discussed that at work, and we may just end up implementing that and providing a patch some time in the future | 23:03 |
| kergoth | it'd need to figure out the sstate archive paths or something | 23:03 |
| seebs | For what it's worth, one of the things I found out was that my beliefs about where the performance hits of pseudo were coming from were mostly wrong. | 23:03 |
| seebs | So one of the changes is to not constantly allocate/free paths, and that seems to help noticably. | 23:03 |
| kergoth | then we'd want to cache the sysroots its constructing for performance, for common combinations | 23:03 |
| kergoth | seebs: heh, thats always fun.. profiling is good at blowing apart our assumptions :) | 23:04 |
| seebs | heh | 23:04 |
| neverpanic | Yeah, that's always the question, when does creating the sysroots start becoming less overhead than doing it at runtime with LD_PRELOAD | 23:04 |
| seebs | Basically, the "simple" code that just computes canonical paths appears to consume a great deal of time. | 23:04 |
| neverpanic | seebs: So the IPC isn't really the bottleneck? | 23:04 |
| seebs | It's *a* bottleneck, but a very large reduction in IPC doesn't have as much effect as I anticipated. | 23:05 |
| seebs | Basically, the more you reduce the IPC cost, the less it matters compared to other parts. | 23:05 |
| neverpanic | That's good to know, I have a similar pet-peeve project where I was thinking about using a lock-free shared memory cache to avoid the constant IPC overhead, but know that I hear this, I should probably fire up a profiler first… | 23:05 |
| seebs | The other thing I'm thinking about is... There's a lot of things that are using paths, and I think there's a fair number of cases where I might not actually *need* the canonical path unless something happens with it that will require storing something in the database, and if I could avoid computing them except in those cases, that might save time. | 23:06 |
| kergoth | hmmmm | 23:06 |
| seebs | FWIW, that was how fakeroot did it, and the nightmarish problems we had with that in longer builds were why pseudo exists. | 23:06 |
| seebs | Although some of those problems were specific to a previous build system which was doing more long-term persistance than we do now. | 23:07 |
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| seebs | What really stunned me was when I found out that fakeroot had an option to store path names instead of device/inode pairs. | 23:08 |
| seebs | And then I read the implementation. | 23:08 |
| seebs | For each device/inode pair: Walk the filesystem looking for it. Record the path. | 23:08 |
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| neverpanic | Fun fact: OS X has a direct way to do this kind of lookup. I don't know how they do it, but it's possible. | 23:09 |
| neverpanic | basically /.vol/$fsid/$inode gives you that file | 23:09 |
| kergoth | seebs: good god, that's unpleasant | 23:12 |
| seebs | The reason they can do that, as I recall, is that their underlying FS implemenation doesn't really HAVE inodes, so the inode numbers are basically already in a database. | 23:15 |
| * paulg is pretty sure seebs gets to deal with more unpleasantness than the rest of us on a daily basis. | 23:16 | |
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| seebs | Not in terms of work. But Do Not Ask about my hobbies. | 23:16 |
| seebs | (Turns out: If you have an open anonymous advice request thing, you end up attracting a lot of abused kids. It's sort of spectacular.) | 23:17 |
| paulg | things can't be good if folks are turning to the internet to get advice... :-/ | 23:21 |
| paulg | such is the world we live in | 23:21 |
| kergoth | hmm, if libjpeg-turbo is default in debian, fedora, opensuse, and chrome's own builds, why is it still relegated to meta-oe? | 23:48 |
| paulg | "turbo" is so 1985... | 23:49 |
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| kergoth | what the.. the jpeg recipe, for a linuxstdbase build, symlinks libjpeg8 to libjpeg6 | 23:51 |
| kergoth | but 8 broke compat with 7 which broke compat with 6 | 23:51 |
| kergoth | so that would certainly cause problems | 23:51 |
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