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Newie | Hi anyone onliine? | 08:29 |
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raykinsella78 | yup | 08:34 |
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Ulfalizer | http://pastie.org/10600885 any idea why this recipe gives the error at the end of the paste? somehow a directory gets created in ${D}, seemingly by the do_package task. | 08:59 |
Ulfalizer | it's a reduced version of a problem i'm having with a larger recipe | 08:59 |
Ulfalizer | commenting out the S assignment fixes the error | 09:00 |
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Ulfalizer | providing a do_install that copies some files into ${D} makes no difference. a directory ${D}/foo still gets created. | 09:03 |
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bluelightning | Ulfalizer: S = "foo" wouldn't be valid... it's supposed to be the entire path | 09:09 |
Ulfalizer | heh, d'oh, i'm an idiot :) | 09:10 |
Ulfalizer | i was sure it was relative to ${WORKDIR} | 09:10 |
Ulfalizer | that's almost certainly it then | 09:11 |
Ulfalizer | thanks | 09:11 |
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rburton | maybe something worth sanity checking | 09:17 |
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Ulfalizer | rburton: yeah, that's probably better than randomly creating a directory in ${D} at least | 09:22 |
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rburton | *could* detect its relative and base it on workdir | 09:25 |
* rburton can't decide | 09:25 | |
rburton | bluelightning: do you have an opinion? too early here to form concrete opinions :) | 09:26 |
rburton | sanity checking can be done fatally in insane whereas magically turning it into an absolute path would need to happen… somewhere | 09:26 |
bluelightning | rather than allow relative paths I'd just error out if it doesn't start with / | 09:27 |
Ulfalizer | rburton: my newb opinion is that it's confusing to let it be either absolute or relative | 09:27 |
bluelightning | to be honest this is the first time I've heard of this coming up | 09:27 |
rburton | ditto, but it took Ulfalizer a day to figure out it, so that's bad :) | 09:27 |
bluelightning | indeed, if we can avoid difficult-to-debug situations that would be ideal | 09:28 |
Ulfalizer | even without a warning, the behavior of creating a directory in ${D} is confusing. i still don't know why it does that. | 09:28 |
rburton | because that's what pwd was when it did the mkdir | 09:28 |
* rburton looks at the recipe | 09:29 | |
rburton | iiinteresting | 09:29 |
rburton | because in a normal recipe you get a different error | 09:29 |
rburton | WARNING: m4: the directory m4 (m4) pointed to by the S variable doesn't exist - please set S within the recipe to point to where the source has been unpacked to | 09:29 |
Ulfalizer | why does it do a mkdir? isn't it just do_install that's supposed to put stuff in ${D}? | 09:29 |
* rburton looks again | 09:30 | |
Ulfalizer | it seems do_package creates the directory, which seems odd | 09:30 |
rburton | oh, because do_package likely runs in $B | 09:31 |
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rburton | which is $S by default | 09:31 |
tasslehoff | Upgraded from 1.8 to 2.0 (angstrom) and now resolv.conf is managed by Connection Manager insted of Systemd. How/where do I add a new nameserver entry? | 09:31 |
Ulfalizer | rburton: and it happens to be in ${D} before that? | 09:31 |
rburton | do_package() has a dirs of SHILBWORKDIR PKGDESTWORK D, so mkdir's those and cd's into D | 09:32 |
Ulfalizer | are any of those based on S? | 09:33 |
Ulfalizer | gotta go, bbl | 09:33 |
rburton | how bad would it be to make bb.utils.mkdirhier throw an exception if the path isn't absolute i wonder | 09:34 |
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rburton | oh, B = S, and B is defaults [dirs] | 09:40 |
rburton | so it splats that directory around quite a bit | 09:41 |
rburton | probably worth a sanity check | 09:41 |
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Ulfalizer | rburton: what do you mean by default [dirs]? | 10:34 |
Ulfalizer | +s | 10:34 |
Ulfalizer | +1 on sanity check either way | 10:36 |
rburton | there's a task flag called dirs which lists the directories it wants created | 10:39 |
rburton | B is the default, and B defaults to S | 10:40 |
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mtownsend1973 | Hi, I'm trying to use the gitsm fetcher with something like gitsm://url-to-my.git;branch=xbuild-test-branch;protocol=ssh with git:// it checks out the right branch but with gitsm it checks out master, am I doing something wrong here? | 12:07 |
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otavio | mtownsend1973: it seems like a bug to me; check the fetcher code inside bitbake to see if it covers the branch param | 12:21 |
mtownsend1973 | otavio: There's no mention of branch in gitsm, does it not rely on the git fetcher for this or is it completely separate? | 12:26 |
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otavio | mtownsend1973: I did not look at the source code, I suggest you to take a look and see if you can figure this out | 12:42 |
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Ulfalizer | what basic packages (tar, etc.) are guaranteed to be available and do not require explicit native-* DEPENDS? how do i find out? what's the underlying mechanism? | 13:41 |
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Ulfalizer | or *-native rather | 13:42 |
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vmeson | s/guaranteed/required/ see apt-get/dnf/zypper/yum install on: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.0/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html | 13:47 |
vmeson | Ulfalizer: what do you mean by: how do i find out? what's the underlying mechanism? | 13:48 |
Ulfalizer | vmeson: is the tar used the native host one? i had assumed yocto built some of the tools itself. | 13:49 |
* vmeson wonders if he missed some earlier discussion... | 13:49 | |
Ulfalizer | i'm curious about 'ar' in this case | 13:49 |
Ulfalizer | more generally, when listing *-native packages as dependencies, do the installed tools end up in PATH and become available in tasks? | 13:50 |
Ulfalizer | maybe i'm missing something basic here | 13:51 |
Ulfalizer | and if so, is there a set of *-native tools that are guaranteed to be available (even if they're not available on the host) | 13:52 |
Ulfalizer | ? | 13:52 |
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vmeson | Ulfalizer: I don't know if there are any implicitly available -native pkgs. I assumed that it would be all explict dependencies and that the pkgs needed on the host would be the only assumptions. | 13:56 |
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rburton | Ulfalizer: ar is part of binutils, so we assume the host has one | 13:59 |
rburton | cant compile a compiler without a compler | 13:59 |
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Ulfalizer | makes sense | 14:07 |
Ulfalizer | is there some err_exit <msg> or similar shell helper included by default? | 14:08 |
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rburton | if you're running in a shell task, bberror/bbfatal/bbwarn/bbnote exist | 14:12 |
rburton | (meta/classes/logging.bbclass) | 14:12 |
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Ulfalizer | is errors being printed to stdout what bitbake/yocto expects? | 14:19 |
Ulfalizer | or what's conventional | 14:19 |
Ulfalizer | bberror/bbfatal seem to do so | 14:19 |
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Ulfalizer | guess it doesn't make much difference if it just prints to the log at the moment like the comment at the top says | 14:21 |
rburton | bberror/bbfatal will route the message through a pipe so it appears in the proper logs and causing a hard/soft error | 14:22 |
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rburton | (so they're identical to bb.error bb.fatal etc as used in pythonic functions) | 14:23 |
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Ulfalizer | ah, it's because i'm running an old yocto version :/ | 14:23 |
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Hunk | hello, i have a question. What is the best way to update an application level software on yocto ( for example a gui ) | 15:18 |
rburton | Hunk: the package manager | 15:19 |
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Hunk | smart package manager? | 15:20 |
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bengardiner | hi guys -- thanks again for helping me out yesterday by confirming that my setup (multiple builders contributing to a shared sstate cache with a common prserv) was sane | 16:06 |
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bengardiner | I'm still not out of the woods yet though -- so my next "am I crazy" question follows: | 16:07 |
bengardiner | with yocto daisy, is there anything that would prevent a file installed to ${sbindir} via a do_install() in a bbappend from getting deployed to the native sysroot when sstate cache satisfies a -native DEPENDS ? | 16:08 |
bengardiner | (I did have a missing FILES_${PN} += "${sbindir}/paxctl" in the bbappend; but even after adding that in I've still got a problem | 16:09 |
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kergoth | you shouldn't need tha tFILES bit | 16:22 |
kergoth | sbindir is included in the default FILES_${PN} | 16:22 |
kergoth | see meta/conf/bitbake.cnof | 16:22 |
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bengardiner | true. then add FILES_${PN} truly had no effect | 16:25 |
kergoth | sstate is irrelevent here. whether it comes from sstate or not, the same files will end up in the sysroot | 16:26 |
kergoth | but no, a file in sbindir should, afaik, end up in the native sysroot sbin | 16:26 |
* kergoth shrugs | 16:26 | |
bengardiner | kergoth: OK... | 16:27 |
bengardiner | damn | 16:27 |
kergoth | examine the 'image' dir under workdir (${D}) and make sure the file is in usr/sbin there, then examine the native sysroot and make sure it ended up there | 16:28 |
kergoth | you could also examine the contents of the do_populate_sysroot sstate tarball | 16:28 |
bengardiner | roger. so what I've been doing is 'find tmp -name paxctl'. I get no hits in the cases where the build failed | 16:29 |
kergoth | that works too | 16:30 |
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bengardiner | so, when it works, the file is in sbin/paxctl ; not usr/sbin/paxctl | 16:44 |
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rburton1 | khem: there? | 17:42 |
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Kaa | Hello! How to avoid useless package rebuilding if ABI of depenencies is not changed? | 17:52 |
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kergoth | Kaa: not possible at the moment. bitbake doesn't analyze task output, only uses task input via metadata checksumming. if recipe B depends on A and A changes and is rebuilt, B will be rebuilt, regardless of whether the rebuild of A changed anything | 18:03 |
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bengardiner | kergoth: where would I find the "do_populate_sysroot sstate tarball" ? | 18:27 |
kergoth | your SSTATE_DIR | 18:28 |
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bengardiner | roger. with a bunch of them there... do I use printsigs to figure out which one was created from this most recent build? | 18:29 |
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kergoth | actually, thinking about it, you could examine the sstate manifest | 18:30 |
kergoth | i dont recall the path, but it's under tmp | 18:30 |
bluelightning | I'm not sure you'll get the signature from the manifest, but you will be able to see that from stamps | 18:31 |
kergoth | his issue is that a file he's installing isnt' ending up in the sysroot, just figured he could verify what was included by examining the manifest, but perhaps thats more trouble than its worth | 18:32 |
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bluelightning | ah ok | 18:32 |
bluelightning | bengardiner: where is the file being installed to? | 18:33 |
kergoth | aside: anyone familiar with kernel-yocto know the best way to override the defconfig? i.e. where in its task graph would i have to inject to change the base configuration? or would i have to inject the custom defconfig as a fragment (ugly)? | 18:34 |
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kergoth | the handling of meta is voodoo from my perspective :) | 18:36 |
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bluelightning | kergoth: AFAIK you just put the defconfig in SRC_URI | 18:37 |
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bluelightning | it won't be used verbatim, parts may be overridden based on e.g. KERNEL_FEATURES | 18:37 |
kergoth | yeah, i'd expect that, just want the option to override the baseline, expecting fragments and whatnot to build on that. i guess if i wanted to override, then i'd just have to use a monstrous fragment, but that wouldn't be ideal | 18:38 |
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kergoth | wanting to fix the meta-mentor kernel_set_defconfig recipetool command for linux-yocto | 18:38 |
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Kaa | kergoth: Can I use virtual packages to disable dependency rebuilding? | 18:46 |
kergoth | a virtual isn't special. it's just a naming convention used sometimes when multiple recipes provide the same functionality, so you can pick which one you want. | 18:46 |
kergoth | has nothing to do with how bitbake decides whether something needs rebulding | 18:47 |
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Kaa | Hm, may be exist some ways - how to reduce updates size? | 18:50 |
Kaa | Because I work on very complicated project and we try switch to package distro to avoid big update images. | 18:51 |
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bengardiner | bluelightning: paxctl being installed to ${sbindir} via a do_install() override in a bbappend | 20:02 |
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bluelightning | bengardiner: is this a native recipe or one for the target? | 20:03 |
bengardiner | yes, native. It is getting built by DEPENDS="paxctl-native" | 20:03 |
bluelightning | hmm, in that case it should definitely show up in the sysroot | 20:04 |
bengardiner | when I -c cleansstate paxctl-native and rebuild, I find paxctl native in work/.../paxctl-native/.../image/sbin/paxctl | 20:05 |
bengardiner | and the DEPENDS="paxctl-native" bb can invoke paxctl from the path | 20:05 |
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bengardiner | when I then rm -rf tmp and cleansstate the DEPENDS... bb and try to rebuild... paxctl is missing | 20:06 |
bluelightning | ok, what about under sysroot-destdir/ under the paxctl-native work directory ? | 20:06 |
bengardiner | not there, no | 20:08 |
bengardiner | now we're getting somewhere? | 20:08 |
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bluelightning | ok, so that does at least line up with it not being in the sysroot | 20:10 |
bluelightning | even though it should be there... | 20:10 |
bluelightning | would you be prepared to pastebin your recipe? | 20:10 |
bengardiner | well -- I'm probably doing something wrong with the paxctl bbappend... yes, I should get them up somewhere . gist ok? | 20:11 |
bluelightning | yep that works | 20:11 |
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bengardiner | https://gist.github.com/BenGardiner/907b96111d8b1331a90e -- if you please | 20:13 |
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bluelightning | bengardiner: so there is something a bit wrong with the bbappend | 20:29 |
bluelightning | bengardiner: install ${D}/sbin/paxctl ${sbindir}/paxctl | 20:29 |
bengardiner | oh... I'm missing a ${D} in the dest aren't I? | 20:30 |
bluelightning | yep | 20:30 |
bluelightning | also you'll want -m 0755 | 20:30 |
bengardiner | :) *facepalm* | 20:30 |
bluelightning | I'm a bit puzzled as to how that didn't cause do_install to just fail | 20:31 |
bengardiner | fakeroot? | 20:31 |
bluelightning | possibly, but I wasn't aware that it would let you overwrite files actually owned by root (or pretend to do so) | 20:32 |
bluelightning | I might go and check that now | 20:32 |
bluelightning | well, FWIW I was blocked from installing a binary over the top of one on my system here under pseudo, so I'm not sure that was it | 20:34 |
rburton1 | bluelightning: interestingly i found out a do_install wasn't doing what i wanted, the log had a syntax error in but the task didn't fail | 20:34 |
fray | pseudo will report failures trying to overwrite files you don't ACTAULLY have access to | 20:35 |
bluelightning | rburton1: hmm :( | 20:35 |
bluelightning | bengardiner: btw that fakeroot stuff is unnecessary, do_install is already marked fakeroot (and virtual/fakeroot is already a dependency as a result) | 20:35 |
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bengardiner | ok... I'm afraid I can't say why the fakeroot was introduced since I inherited the bbappend at one point. But I'm guessing it was added due to install to a path without ${D} | 20:45 |
bluelightning | does adding the ${D} fix it btw? | 20:47 |
bluelightning | I'm not sure how that could have broken it if so though | 20:47 |
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bengardiner | I'm gonna try it and get back to you. repro of the issue requires build, clean, build so... | 20:58 |
bengardiner | :) | 20:58 |
bengardiner | I'm gonna try with https://gist.github.com/BenGardiner/907b96111d8b1331a90e#file-paxctl_0-9-bbappend | 21:01 |
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bengardiner | I think I see why it needed fakeroot | 21:11 |
bengardiner | | NOTE: make -j 8 -e MAKEFLAGS= DESTDIR=/home/bengardiner/src/ln-manifest/stacks/raspberrypi-ln-testing/poky/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image install | install -D --owner 0 --group 0 --mode a=rx paxctl /home/bengardiner/src/ln-manifest/stacks/raspberrypi-ln-testing/poky/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image/sbin/paxctl | install: cannot change ownership of `/home/bengardiner/src/ln-manifest/ | 21:11 |
bluelightning | it already has fakeroot though | 21:14 |
bengardiner | oh right | 21:14 |
bluelightning | if we didn't then nothing we installed and packaged would get the right permissions :) | 21:15 |
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bengardiner | :) | 21:15 |
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bengardiner | more weirdness (to me). that "install -m 0755 ${D}${base_sbindir}/paxctl ${D}${sbindir}/paxctl" line seems to expand to "install -m 0755 <build-dir>/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image/<build-dir>/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/sbin/paxctl <build-dir>/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image/<build-dir>/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/sbin/paxctl" | 21:39 |
kergoth | that's expected with a native recipe | 21:42 |
kergoth | prefix for a native recipe isn't usr, it's the sysroot path + usr, to deal with relocation issues | 21:42 |
bluelightning | we really need a FAQ somewhere covering that... | 21:43 |
bengardiner | ok... hmmm. so the "oe_runmake DESTDIR=${D} install" above isn't installing to <build-dir>/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image/<build-dir>/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/ though , just <build-dir>/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/paxctl-native/0.9-r0/image | 21:45 |
bengardiner | above *it* | 21:45 |
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bengardiner | should I do "oe_runmake DESTDIR=${D}${base_prefix} install" ? | 21:48 |
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bluelightning | bengardiner: is there no prefix handling in the makefile? | 21:58 |
bengardiner | yeah -- $(DESTDIR) is in there but nothing else | 21:58 |
bengardiner | e.g. "$(INSTALL) -D --owner 0 --group 0 --mode a=rx $(PROG) $(DESTDIR)/sbin/$(PROG)" | 21:59 |
bluelightning | ok, then that may be the right thing to do in that case | 21:59 |
bluelightning | the other option for all of this is you patch the makefile to use ${sbindir} instead of /sbin (or sed it with a do_configure_prepend()) | 22:00 |
bengardiner | thanks bluelightning, kergoth (again) | 22:05 |
bengardiner | I'll let you know how it turns out | 22:05 |
bengardiner | ttyl | 22:05 |
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bluelightning | np - please do | 22:05 |
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