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| ephlodur | on last question how do I add systemd to my final image | 00:02 |
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| billr | In your conf/local.conf file, add: DISTRO_FEATURES_append = " systemd" and VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager = "systemd" | 00:04 |
| billr | (as two separate lines) | 00:04 |
| billr | If you already have a DISTRO_FEATURES_append entry, then just add systemd to the list. | 00:05 |
| ephlodur | ok ..btw I'm building an image for raspberry pi3 that does not make a difference | 00:05 |
| billr | shouldn't matter what your target is | 00:06 |
| ephlodur | do I need DISTRO_FEATURES_BACKFILL_CONSIDERED = "sysvinit" | 00:07 |
| billr | if you want both systemd init and sysv init. If you want only systemd init, I don't think you need the backfill entry. (Not an expert on that one.) | 00:08 |
| ephlodur | how can I import openssl-dev whithout enabling dev-pkgs in EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES | 00:09 |
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| billr | try adding it to IMAGE_INSTALL_append in local.conf? | 00:11 |
| ephlodur | ok thanks that the way IMAGE_INSTALL_append ?="openssl-dev" | 00:12 |
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| billr | Yes, but put a space between opening " and 'openssl-dev' | 00:13 |
| billr | and I think you probably want just = and not ?= in this case. | 00:14 |
| ephlodur | ok thanks I will try that now | 00:14 |
| ephlodur | it does not seem to like the MACHINE ??= "raspberry2" | 00:15 |
| billr | Do you actually have a "raspberry2" machine definition? | 00:16 |
| ephlodur | ok the problem was I need to add MACHINE ??= raspberrypi2 | 00:17 |
| billr | and change the ?? to a single ? | 00:17 |
| ephlodur | oh ok .. | 00:17 |
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| ephlodur | can I remove PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qemu-native = " sdl" | 00:18 |
| billr | ok. ?? or ? may work depending on how your local.conf file is written. Looks like you got it, though. | 00:18 |
| ephlodur | for an raspberry | 00:18 |
| billr | I don't think it will matter, as it should apply if you're not using a qemu target | 00:19 |
| billr | should -> shouldn't | 00:19 |
| ephlodur | ok thank.. now I building with an see what happen | 00:20 |
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| billr | away for a few minutes, will check back on you in a bit | 00:21 |
| ephlodur | thank for all the help | 00:22 |
| billr | you're welcome. Build still going ok? | 00:31 |
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| ephlodur | yes billr so far so good .. I have two warnigs | 00:36 |
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| parrot | which package contains libc.a (libc static library) in yocto? | 05:51 |
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| kergoth | parrot: most likely glibc-staticdev or libc6-staticdev, depending on whether it was renamed or not | 06:04 |
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| parrot | kergoth: ok. Thanks | 06:18 |
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| david_r | hello, i can't build webkitgtk 2.10.7 with yocto krogoth on Debian 32b(4GB RAM, 8GB swap) system, i'm getting this msg: "mmap: failed to allocate 2502798416 bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory". has anybody the same problem? | 08:04 |
| CTtpollard | isn't 32b capped at 4GB memory? | 08:05 |
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| Shiftee_ | Not with a PAE kernel | 08:07 |
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| david_r | i'm on PAE kernel | 08:10 |
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| rburton | does that allow an extended range for a single process? | 08:13 |
| rburton | "The 32-bit size of the virtual address is not changed, so regular application software continues to use instructions with 32-bit addresses and (in a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_memory_model) is limited to 4 gigabytes of virtual address space." | 08:13 |
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| LetoThe2nd | in short, pae means that the system altogether can use more than 4gb, but any single process is still affected by that limit. | 08:16 |
| Shiftee_ | That looks like the problem | 08:16 |
| parrot | but he's just trying to allocate ~2.5 GB of space right which is less than 4GB? | 08:16 |
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| LetoThe2nd | well the 4gb are still brutto, i don't know what is net payload | 08:17 |
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| LetoThe2nd | anyways, just another reason to not stick with 32b | 08:17 |
| xkonni | rburton: yes i set up a webserver hosting all the deb packages now, that works fine. | 08:19 |
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| xkonni | next issue: installing things is not permanent when using a rootfs-image... guess i need to setup a root partition on the sdcard | 08:20 |
| rburton | parrot: iitc a single process only has 3gb of the address space, and you may have used 1gb of that already | 08:20 |
| rburton | (as the kernel has a gb for itself) | 08:22 |
| fredcadete | especially given that that allocation will try to get 2.5GB in *contiguous* virtual address space | 08:22 |
| LetoThe2nd | yeah | 08:22 |
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| rburton | but yes, for build machines with stuff like webkit and llvm, 32 bit isn't enough | 08:23 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i remember a talk where they showed shaders could not be compiled in 32b space... | 08:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | *some | 08:23 |
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| xkonni | am i correct that IMAGE_FSTYPES = " ... sdcard" is the image i want to create an image i can modify after dd'ing and? | 08:31 |
| david_r | i've got the same feeling that mmap won't be able to find 2.5GB free in mine 32b PAE system, so i need to build on 64b, thanks for help :) | 08:31 |
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| xkonni | unfortunately creating a sdcard image results in this: http://stikked.xkonni.de/view/90114872 | 08:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | xkonni: 'sdcard' is not a standard image format, but something that usually comes from the fsl layers | 08:35 |
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| LetoThe2nd | so did that work before? did you check that the branches (e.g. poky revisions and the fsl layers) match up? | 08:44 |
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| xkonni | LetoThe2nd: i'm using fsl layers. and i didnt build a sdcard image before. actually i just want something i can e.g. dd to the sdcard, tell uboot to run it, apt-get install packages and keep them when rebooting | 08:46 |
| xkonni | currently using an u-boot rootfs image. but its loaded in the ram and modifications do not persist | 08:47 |
| LetoThe2nd | xkonni: "i just want" is usually not helpful in debugging stuff ;-) | 08:47 |
| xkonni | LetoThe2nd: yes right. what i meant is: if there are alternatives to 'sdcard' that match my goals, i would consider using one of those | 08:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | xkonni: so take a step back. did you follow the fsl instructions on how to use and configure their layers? did a vanilla rebuild of their getting started guide succeed? | 08:48 |
| xkonni | the u-boot image works perfectly | 08:48 |
| xkonni | so i just added 'sdcard' to the image_fstypes, rebuild, ^^ that error | 08:48 |
| xkonni | the whole build is based on fsl layers | 08:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | but is that the setup as described by them, or something you came up with yourself? does it carry any modifications? | 08:49 |
| xkonni | (ls1021atwr) | 08:49 |
| xkonni | besides the sdcard its pretty close to what they describe | 08:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | you're evading my questions. | 08:50 |
| xkonni | added some packages, vim, ... and deb package management | 08:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | see. | 08:50 |
| xkonni | not on purpose, let me try again | 08:50 |
| LetoThe2nd | start over with a clean slate. find out when it breaks. | 08:50 |
| xkonni | mhhm... and a working build is not a 'clean slate'? | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | and really make sure that all the included layer revisions match up | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | a working build is not a clean slate. | 08:51 |
| xkonni | ok, so i take a minimal fsl image, build it, add 'sdcard' and build it again? | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | because a working build still might carry modifications that just didn't show their effects yes. | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | exactly. my advice is to get the initial, minimal setup that you were provided, and add absolutely nothing. build it, then add the sdcard fstype, and build again. | 08:52 |
| xkonni | i thought the problem would be something simple. like exceeding rootfs-size, missing some dependency | 08:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | if that already breaks, you know that you have to look in your upstream. if it works, you have to look in your modification. | 08:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | it also might be that the BSP just doesn't support the sdcard image. | 08:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | which its documentation should tell | 08:53 |
| xkonni | thats an option, yes... will check the other fsl-image configs | 08:54 |
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| xkonni | though the error tell me its something stupid: Exception: TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects | 08:56 |
| xkonni | e.g. missing "" in a config | 08:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | ... which *might* come from the sdcard setting triggering some function, but the layer not providing sufficient configuration data for your board. | 08:56 |
| xkonni | possible... ;) | 08:57 |
| LetoThe2nd | taking a first look at http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-fsl-arm/tree/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass suggests that the sdcard fstype only makes sense for imx and mxs socs, by the way | 08:57 |
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| LetoThe2nd | by the way, if its only about persistency during development, you could also resort to a nfs root file system. but in any case, the process of making your device self-bootable and offering persistent memory should be provided by its documentation, as its highly board implementation specific. | 09:04 |
| xkonni | found the actual issue... IMAGE_CMD is None for sdcard... | 09:05 |
| xkonni | and thats most likely, as you said, due to missing options for my platform | 09:05 |
| LetoThe2nd | a.k.a. the layers you have do not support the sdcard image for your platform. | 09:05 |
| xkonni | right, thats what i wanted to say | 09:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | so see my last post before that conclusion :-) | 09:06 |
| xkonni | yes i just wanted to support your statement | 09:06 |
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| LetoThe2nd | nah, i meant the "by the way..." line :-) | 09:07 |
| xkonni | nfs might work, but then i dont always have a network. having persistent data on the sdcard would be my favorite option | 09:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | then its RTFM time :-) | 09:08 |
| xkonni | not necessarily with that sdcard image, there are certainly other options | 09:08 |
| xkonni | right, the docs are rare on that one though | 09:09 |
| xkonni | so instead of ls1021a + topic i ended up with yocto + topic | 09:09 |
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| LetoThe2nd | then kick your supplier, because that really is board specific. | 09:09 |
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| xkonni | hehe | 09:09 |
| xkonni | some partner said 'here, use that board, its awesome' | 09:10 |
| xkonni | so here we are... | 09:10 |
| LetoThe2nd | then kick your partner | 09:10 |
| xkonni | ;D | 09:10 |
| xkonni | well i do have the rootfs... i can extract it. guess i just need to tell uboot to use mmc 0:1 instead of the image | 09:12 |
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| xkonni | wasnt that hard after all... once you know that bootm addresses can be skipped with a - | 12:16 |
| xkonni | http://stikked.xkonni.de/view/37681e1d#L9 just in case | 12:16 |
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| aurele | hello all | 13:03 |
| aurele | I'm using ${DATETIME} in my receipes, and I get some "Taskhash mismatch"..., I would like to know how I could avoid this error | 13:05 |
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| rburton | this was just discussed on oe-core@ | 13:09 |
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| aurele | rburton, thanks | 13:11 |
| aurele | rburton, if it was for me ;) I will try to see archive | 13:12 |
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| skfax | When bitbaking a package X some other package Y fails. However when doing "bitbake -g X" and grepping the resulting dot file, there are no packages depending on Y. Why is Y included in the build? | 13:14 |
| aurele | rburton, can't find anything where was it discussed? | 13:22 |
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| skfax | (I found through "bitbake -e X" that Y is included through image_types.bbclass; just trying to find how to remove this dependency) | 13:27 |
| rburton | change your image type? | 13:28 |
| rburton | (concrete examples are great though) | 13:29 |
| skfax | It is based on recipes-graphics/images/core-image-minimal.bb and the problematic package is mtd-utils | 13:31 |
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| skfax | I'm on the dizzy branch of yocto and there are patches fixing mtd-utils in later branches, so I can try to cherry pick those commits | 13:32 |
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| skfax | Ended up just doing IMAGE_DEPENDS_ubifs = "" in my image file after the inherit. Not a clean fix, but works | 14:01 |
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| graphiqs_ | is there a proper way to influence variables in .bbclass files or append code to them from a different layer? | 14:49 |
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| maciejjo | hi, is anyone here familiar with PRU development using meta-ti? I have problems building ti-cgt-pru package | 17:42 |
| maciejjo | I posted a message on meta-ti list: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-ti/2016-June/008636.html | 17:43 |
| maciejjo | but maybe someone here knows how to handle this? | 17:43 |
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| maciejjo | hmm | 18:04 |
| maciejjo | seems that execution of ti .bin installer fails | 18:04 |
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| maciejjo | ok, the problem was: missing 32bit glibc on build host (which should yield a warning, but somehow I missed it) | 18:47 |
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| kergoth | god i hate having to do world builds for testing | 21:39 |
| kergoth | take so long | 21:39 |
| bluelightning | kergoth: overnight? | 21:42 |
| paulg | how many steps in a world build nowadays?? | 21:42 |
| kergoth | depends on thel ayers you include :) | 21:43 |
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| kergoth | the one i'm running right now is 24,372 regular tasks after 10,230 setscenes | 21:43 |
| paulg | whee! | 21:43 |
| paulg | calls for a dual socket xeon or similar. | 21:44 |
| paulg | that said, we still bottleneck around some key pkgs leaving a lot of the system idle when that happens. | 21:45 |
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| kergoth | I/O is often a serious bottleneck as well | 21:55 |
| bluelightning | any ideas on how we might optimise things? | 21:56 |
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| paulg | kergoth, yeah I do all my work on dual disk RAID0. Helps some vs. single disk. | 22:03 |
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| paulg | bluelightning, I'm not sure if this has been done before, but I was entertaining the idea of identifying "hot" pkgs and ensuring they got preferential treatment in download, unpack, configure etc. | 22:05 |
| paulg | i.e. on a per step basis. | 22:05 |
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| paulg | there is no rush to unpack gnome-icon-themes if we've not unpacked for building perl-native yet. :) | 22:08 |
| paulg | the odd time I've looked at a build and seen 5 or more pkgs all in do_package / do_rpm ; that is probably more of an I/O bottleneck than unpacking tho.... | 22:11 |
| kergoth | paulg: i think bitbake already does its best to do that | 22:12 |
| paulg | ...not sure how one would avoid that. | 22:12 |
| kergoth | bottlenecks are built as early as possible in the task sorting | 22:12 |
| kergoth | in the scheduler class | 22:13 |
| paulg | Good. Then I can scratch that idea off my "should look into that someday" list. :) | 22:13 |
| kergoth | we've expeirmented with adding weighting based on resource type / availability, i.e. no more than N unpack/patch, etc, but i'm not sure that sort of thing ever went anywhere | 22:13 |
| kergoth | richard's likely experimented with scheduling optimizations more recently than i, though | 22:13 |
| rburton | iirc he did and it didn't really help | 22:14 |
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| kergoth | i had similar results a few years ago when i was playing with it, sadly | 22:19 |
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| paulg | I wonder if the unpack would get a speed-up of pre-reading the entire pkg instead of interspersing the reads with writes... | 22:27 |
| paulg | I did something similar to that for gnu diff some many years ago. | 22:28 |
| paulg | https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2001-41/0047.html | 22:28 |
| kergoth | I wonder how the performance is when doing builds on a tmpfs, I think someone was playing with that | 22:28 |
| paulg | I've done that on other build systtems but not oe/yocto/bitbake | 22:29 |
| paulg | the difference wasn't super huge IIRC. | 22:29 |
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| paulg | the "rm -rf" once done was however much improved. :-) | 22:30 |
| kergoth | hehe | 22:31 |
| kergoth | most useful script i have when doing yocto builds: bgrm. just nohup/disown's backgrounded rm -rf, after first renaming/moving it, so you can immediately start the next build rather than twiddling your thumbs waiting on the rm -rf tmp | 22:32 |
| paulg | ya, I do sth similar ; "mv tmp deletmelater ; (sleep 12h ; rm -rf deletemelater) & " | 22:33 |
| paulg | if I'm still working in 12h then my life already sucks. | 22:33 |
| paulg | and less i/o contention assuming I don't need the space ASAP. | 22:34 |
| paulg | generally speaking I try and push everything off a cliff as least often as possible. | 22:35 |
| paulg | but it still happens too often. :-/ | 22:35 |
| kergoth | sadly my remote build vms lack the space to delay the removal very far out :) especially when doing world builds. that's a great idea when you hvae the space, though | 22:35 |
| paulg | heh, looking at that old thread, I was testing on what was then a low end machine. Whopping 32MB RAM. | 22:36 |
| paulg | https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2001-41/0667.html | 22:36 |
| paulg | you'd not even stop to pick up a gfx card or router out of the trash with that amt of RAM now. :) | 22:36 |
| paulg | Good times. | 22:39 |
| JEEB | reminds me of being quite happy in 1998 or 1999 because of getting a whopping 64 megabytes of EDO RAM :) | 22:41 |
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| kergoth | Hmm, should make it so a sigterm sent to a sleeping delayed rm -rf causes an immediate rm -rf, in case you reboot while one is pending | 22:55 |
| * kergoth does so | 22:55 | |
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