Thursday, 2017-10-19

khemyou are trying it otherway around IMO, you should be first building a distro and then doing post processing for images00:15
khemI would suggest to use distro's packaging as much as you can for your customizations00:16
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khemscripts and makefiles easily tend to become hairy over time if not maintained, if I were you I would just try to keep as little customization as possible00:16
xzkhem: we don't build OS itself. We build everything that happens before OS (for some parts we just take binary blobs) and we take OS from another team as an image00:21
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khemxz: I see, you can use something like cmake or good old make00:37
khemI would even look into gradle or bazel00:38
xzkhem: we have around 12 different boards and we need multiple flavors for them. That could be 20+ builds. Majority of stuff between them is shared, but not everything.00:40
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xzkhem: never heard of gradle or bazel, let me do some research00:40
khemit seems all you are looking for is a packaging help00:41
khemI think they can help00:41
xzkhem: I like gradle, that might work00:50
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xzkhem: seems little similar to bitbake, but much simpler00:50
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styler2goIs it possible to create an image with grub installed in it? So that i can just dd it on a stick and it will have grub on it?06:27
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styler2goIs this channel dead? :<07:09
LetoThe2ndpossible: yes, of course. is there a wic script already prepared for this: not sure, might be.07:10
LetoThe2ndchannel dead: certainly not. but YP has crunch time right now, and its too early for the USians to be awake07:11
styler2goWell true, i'm in the "wrong" timezone for questions :P07:12
LetoThe2ndhave you already looked at the wks scripts that come along with poky?07:12
styler2gowhat do you mean by "wic script"?07:13
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styler2goInteresting. I did not hear about this yet but i am a novice in bitbake...07:15
styler2goJust to understand: I need a wks file and then wic can create my image?07:16
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LetoThe2ndits rather new, right. but basically the way for you to go. yes that *should07:16
LetoThe2nd*should* be possible from my understanding07:16
styler2goAwesome! Thanks a lot! I think this is already exactly what i need07:16
LetoThe2ndif there is a matching kickstart file already around, all is well07:17
styler2goOne last question: Do i place the wks file in the build/conf/ folder nex to the local.conf?07:18
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LetoThe2ndno idea, i know it exists but i don't use it :-P07:20
styler2goHaha ok :P I guess i'll just figure it out07:20
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nayfepeople usually put it in wic folder07:22
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styler2gowic tells me Error: Couldn't find HDDDIR, exiting. My receipt only generates ext4 image. How do i enable the hddimage?07:53
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nayfestyler2go: which wks do you use ?08:04
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styler2goI tried mkefidisk08:08
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styler2goMaybe i understand it wrong. I am using wic create mkefidisk -e <the bitbake image i want to have a disk of>08:10
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styler2go Here he fives two possible fixes, i would like to use the first one, enable hddimg. Does anyone know how i enable hddimg again?08:15
yoctiBug 10501: normal, Medium, 2.3 M2, eduard.bartosh, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, do_image_wic  fails with "Error: Couldn't find HDDDIR, exiting"08:15
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T_UNIXhey, I'm trying to package a svn repository that has externals pointing to various `trunk/`s. So bitbake's `svn up` won't see a change. Thus bitbake will reuse the cached source.09:04
T_UNIXis there a way to force bitbake to *not* use a cache for a specific package/recipe?09:04
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LetoThe2ndT_UNIX: look at what externalsrc does, i'm sure it cn be beaten into shape09:05
LetoThe2nd(at the cost of reproductibility, of course.)09:05
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T_UNIXLetoThe2nd: thanks. Sounds good. So it won't try to unpack from a previous fetch?09:07
LetoThe2ndT_UNIX: externalsrc basically is a "cache nothing, always rebuild" as far as i get it09:08
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T_UNIXLetoThe2nd: okay. Cool, thanks. I was just wondering whether the embedding process would be like: "well, you didn't change the recipe, nor the version. So I'll just handle the unpacked cache."09:12
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nayfeDo you know if there will be an linux-fslc-imx_4.9 ?09:19
styler2goWill wic rebuild the hddimg if there are changes?09:19
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nayfestyler2go: if you put IMAGE_FSTYPES = "wic" WKS_FILE = "mkefidisk.wks" it should do it every time i think09:46
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styler2gonayfe, that's awesome, thank you09:58
nayfestyler2go: np, if i can help ;)10:00
styler2goMy goal is to create a minimal image completely without busybox, i am using meta/recipes-extended/packagegroups/ for that10:01
LetoThe2ndminimal without busybox sounds kinda contradictional10:03
styler2goWell, as minimal as it can get without busybox10:03
LetoThe2ndunless you're not replacing busybox with toybox or such10:03
styler2goI am not dependend on disk space, only in functionality "minimal"10:04
LetoThe2ndthen all depends on your defintion of functionality. mind, there is actually no need to have an init system, libraries,.. you don't even need a shell10:05
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styler2goLetoThe2nd, isn't "sh" the minimum dependency?10:45
LetoThe2ndno, why?10:45
styler2goI am trying to create a system which just executes one sh script10:47
LetoThe2ndwell then your usecase probably depends on sh. but technically, you can totally have a linux system without any kind of sh10:47
styler2goThat's interesting. You could run a kernel without any kind of "program" in userspace?10:48
LetoThe2ndthat too, but that would require patching the kernel.10:49
styler2goOh i see10:49
LetoThe2ndbut even without that, have a single statically linked binary, and init=$YOURBINARY10:49
styler2goBut then i need my own wic script do i? Or is there a VAR für the wic GRUB kernel command?10:52
LetoThe2ndgiven the assumption that your binary has no external dependencies whatsoever, no device nodes, no nothing10:52
LetoThe2ndin such a case, one probably would not use OE at all10:53
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LetoThe2ndwhat is the total usecase of this "product" anyways, if one might ask?10:55
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LetoThe2ndjust "run one script" sounds like the script will have a lot of dependencies anyways.10:55
styler2goThis very minimal linux was just of theoretical knowledge if it WOULD be possible.10:56
styler2goYes, my script has a lot of dependencies10:56
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styler2goI am now trying to run my image but it's behavior is very weird, any idea what could make it that weird? (I am just trying to enter ls+enter)11:23
LetoThe2ndis this some serial console?11:24
styler2goThis is a record of virtualbox window11:25
styler2goSame behavior when i run it on a device though11:25
styler2goMight be a wrong inittab?11:27
LetoThe2ndno idea, ad hoc. it seems to toggle between sh and bash, for reason i don't have a clue11:27
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JoiFnrossi: I don't exactly understand "HAS_PLATFORM_INIT" .. it has some names, such as "zynq_microzed_config". And the only corresponding value I can find is the UBOOT_MACHINE in the machine config (/conf/machine/<...>.conf) .. but I don't see how it corresponds to recipes-bsb/platform-init/*11:40
nrossiJoiF: HAS_PLATFORM_INIT is for u-boot, it defines that a specific config has platform init files in the u-boot source tree11:42
nrossiJoiF: if your using platform-init recipe that provides virtual/platform-init, you don't want to have your config in HAS_PLATFORM_INIT. If it is though (e.g. your using a existing u-boot config but want to provide a custom init) you can use FORCE_PLATFORM_INIT = "1" and it will be ignored11:43
JoiFnrossi: Ahh. e.g. ./tmp/work/mud_zynq7-poky-linux-gnueabi/u-boot/1_2017.01-r0/git/board/xilinx/zynq/zynq-microzed/ps7_init_gpl.c11:43
nrossiJoiF: yep11:44
JoiFnrossi: So, since I have my own, I should actually NOT put my board-thing to HAS_PLATFORM_INIT?11:44
nrossiJoiF: Correct11:44
nrossiJoiF: HAS_PLATFORM_INIT is just a limitation of not being able to know the content of the source tree at parse time11:45
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JoiFBut isn't there anything is should do to tell it that it has to pull my own platform-init into the build? Or is that done by default?11:47
JoiFWhen I say "pull my own", I mean use the one I'm supplying in my recipes-bsp/platform-init/...11:48
nrossiJoiF: the platform-init recipes PROVIDES virtual/platform-init, u-boot depends on that if you set SPL_BINARY = "spl/boot.bin" and its zynq(mp)11:49
nrossi(actually any SPL_BINARY value triggers the depends)11:49
JoiFOk. It should work, then.11:50
JoiF(since that's what I'm doing.)11:51
JoiFBtw, Anyone here who'll be in Prag on Monday?  :p11:51
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LetoThe2ndand on sunday, and on tuesday, and on wednesday, and on thursday...11:52
JoiFYay  :D11:53
JoiFI'm actually going tomorrow .. I'll be staying until Sunday, 29th11:53
LetoThe2ndif you see a weirdo with beard wearing a heavy metal shirt, thats me.11:53
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LetoThe2ndyou're at OEDEM then too?11:54
JoiFHaha. You mean.. like everyone at the conference??  ;)  Isn't that the stereotype?  ;)11:54
LetoThe2ndactually, not. seems like elce is really getting close to the classic industry.11:55
JoiFNo, just ELCE. But my friend lives in Prag and I'm staying with him .. and seeing more of.. Prag.  ;)11:55
LetoThe2nda shame11:56
LetoThe2ndoedem usually has a pretty good discussion culture11:57
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JoiF09:00 on a Sunday?? Are you guys insane??  ;)11:58
LetoThe2ndnobody said we have to show up sober.11:58
LetoThe2ndand insane... yep, probably.11:59
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JoiFIt looks interesting. But I don't know if I should commit to showing up there in a full capacity. This isn't a thing were you just drop in and sit quietly at the back and listen in, right?12:01
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JoiFNaahh.. I should probably stay away from it. I think this is all in quite capable hands  ;)12:04
LetoThe2ndusually its not for the passive kind, yes.12:04
LetoThe2ndand its rather full AFAICS anyways. but i thought i'd ask as i have totally no clue if i already know you or not.12:05
JoiFMy only "problem" with OE is that my company's mail-spam-filter blocks every other message that comes from the mailing lists. And that's not OE's fault.  ;)12:05
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JoiFHaha, I understand  :)12:35
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styler2goIs there some "easy" way to add files to my final image?12:58
LetoThe2ndstyler2go: the kinda coprrect way is
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rburtonstyler2go: write recipe to package files, put package in image13:02
styler2gohmmm ok13:03
LetoThe2nde.g. RTFM behind given link :)13:03
styler2goand then i do_install { install -m 0755 <from> <to> }13:03
styler2goyes, i will. thank you :)13:06
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tasslehoffIs there a way to exclude a layer or a bbappend depending on which machine I'm building for?13:41
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LetoThe2ndtasslehoff: you can certainly limit the effects of the bbappend to specific machines, with the postfix identifiers (orwhattheyrecalled)13:42
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tasslehoffLetoThe2nd: I have to build for a variscite board and for sabre. The bluez5_%.bbappend in meta-variscite-fslc demands a variscite-bt.conf no matter what I build.13:44
tasslehoffI want to see if I can work around it in my own layer :)13:44
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tasslehoffvariscite has a, and there is also a even if I set a preferred version for my machine, the variscite one is chosen.13:57
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tasslehoffHm. By some magic the version actually becomes 1:v2017.03+gitAUTOINC+b3e7f7518b14:15
tasslehoffProbably when including uboot-config14:15
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nayfetasslehoff: maybe a layer priority problem ?14:31
styler2goSometimes bitbake is really frustrating :D14:33
styler2goError: exec_cmd: cp /mnt/upboard/build-recovery/tmp/work/up_board-poky-linux/recovery-image/1.0-r0/recovery-image-1.0/hddimg/EFI/BOOT/* /mnt/upboard/build-recovery/tmp/deploy/images/up-board/recovery-image-up-board-20171019142129/build/hdd/boot/EFI/BOOT returned '1' instead of 014:33
styler2goAny idea what could cause this?14:33
styler2go(error message while creating wic)14:34
rburtoncp set errorcode 114:34
rburtonof course cp doesn't say what the error codes are, so that's no good14:34
styler2goERROR: Function failed: do_image_wic14:34
LetoThe2ndstyler2go: well its just a cp command. look at both parts of it and try to undertand what might have failed.14:35
nayfepath problem i think, as there is a build folder in image deploy folder14:35
LetoThe2nd-> is the source there, -> is the destination path there.14:35
styler2gooh well.. now it worked after just retrying it for the third time14:35
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styler2goAlso, this was an automatic process by wic so i don't know how i could check why it didn't have the file/folder/whatever it tried to copy14:37
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JoiFnrossi: Not getting those "unable to halt processor" errors anymore, but I get nothing on my serial-console  :/14:47
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nrossiJoiF: if you have jtag, check where the PC is, and see if its hung in spl14:52
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JoiFnrossi: After loading u-boot.elf?14:56
JoiFAfter I load/download u-boot-spl.bin (which I dd from boot.bin) there's nothing being printed14:57
nrossiJoiF: do you get output from SPL? or is it U-Boot that is not doing anything?14:57
JoiFNo, no output at all14:57
nrossiJoiF: then that is where the failure is14:58
JoiFpc is at: 00007ddc, 00007de8, 00004a54, 00007de4 .. those are the addresses I see if I continually do "rrd pc" .. it's jumping between something around those parts. But at this point, I haven't loaded u-boot.elf yet.15:00
JoiFIf I load u-boot.elf it stops at 0000004015:00
nrossiJoiF: thats a exception vector, u-boot-spl has hung by the looks of those addresses15:01
nrossiJoiF: looking at a u-boot-spl binary here, 0x7xxx might be serial functions?15:05
JoiFGot something now15:06
JoiFNow it hangs after displaying "Trying to boot from RAM"15:06
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nrossiJoiF: thats normal for a jtag boot, since there is nothing to boot from. You should be able to load u-boot.elf once you've seen SPL get that far15:09
JoiFYes. But still after loading u-boot.elf nothing happens.15:10
JoiFI suspect my memory config15:10
JoiFHmm, nope15:15
JoiF(as far as I can tell)15:15
JoiFTrying to boot from RAMNo valid device tree binary found - please append one to U-Boot binary, use u-boot-dtb.bin or define CONFIG_OF_EMBED. For sandbox, use -d <file.dtb>initcall sequence 04061b90 failed at call 04046a08 (err=-1)### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ###15:20
nrossiJoiF: hmmm, is this u-boot.elf? and you have OF_EMBED=y?15:22
JoiFI do now. And now u-boot finally works.  ;)15:23
nrossiJoiF: :)15:23
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stavrohi ppl, I have a question regarding building python recipes, so when I run `bitbake python-pyopenssl` I get an error like ERROR: Nothing RPROVIDES 'cpp' (but /builds/release/meta-openembedded/meta-python/recipes-devtools/python/ RDEPENDS on or otherwise requires it) Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['python-pyopenssl', 'python-cryptography', 'python-cffi', 'python-pycparser', 'cpp'].16:32
stavroIt seems that I need to add cpp somewhere but I am not sure how to do this16:32
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laplantestavro: I think gcc should provide cpp. What happens when you do 'bitbake cpp'? Should show gcc RPROVIDES cpp.16:35
stavrolaplante: I get ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'cpp'. Close matches:   mcpp16:37
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laplanteHmm seems like your toolchain isn't set up properly then?16:38
laplantestavro: What happens when you do 'bitbake gcc'?16:40
stavrolaplante: I get ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'gcc' ERROR: gcc was skipped: it has an incompatible license: GPL-3.0-with-GCC-exception & GPLv3. Hmm that might be the issue...16:42
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neverpanicYeah, you'll have to come to terms with that particular instance of GPL-3.0 or use clang instead.16:49
armpitrburton, or RP do either of you going to run builds today/tonight ?16:53
RParmpit: I'm not16:54
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aehs29rburton: youre the maintainer for initramfs-live-boot, any reason why it RDEPENDS on udev instead of ${VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_dev_manager}?17:13
aehs29rburton: my point is what if I dont want udev but busybox-mdev instead17:15
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laplanteCan anyone provide some tips on tracking down the source of "do_rootfs: libevdev-dev not found in the feeds"-style errors during image generation? I have confirmed that the RPMs exist (in my case under deploy/rpm/cortexa9hf_neon), and are not empty (as verified with packages_split). At a loss on how to proceed...17:30
rburtonaehs29: ha, wasn't aware i was ;)  the live-boot code uses udevadm etc, so it will expect those commands to exist17:31
aehs29rburton: I use it for poky-tiny, and eudev is bringing about 600 extra KB which is about 45% of the whole userspace anyway17:33
aehs29rburton: So I think I might have to create an init-live-tiny recipe17:33
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aehs29rburton: wait but systemd-udev does provide udevadm as well, why wouldnt it be possible to have initramfs-live-boot + systemd?17:37
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rburtonaehs29: systemd rprovides udev (you can't build eudev and systemd at the same time)17:43
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aehs29rburton: I see your point, any other suggestions besides creating an init-live for tiny?17:45
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rburtonaehs29: port init-live away from using udev?  presumably not possible.  do you really want *live*?   they're nonsense.  just boot properly.17:46
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rburtonhands up who actually has write-once media to use live images on17:46
aehs29rburton: its not entierly live, its the tiny-initramfs image, it does work just fine using the same recipe with busybox-mdev instead17:46
aehs29rburton: since it actually drops to shell before anything else happens17:47
rburtonyeah.  split the recipes up?17:47
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aehs29rburton: yeah I dont see any other way thats less intrusive17:50
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laplanteRegarding my do_rootfs failures, I ran with verbose logging and see a bunch of warnings like this (one for all, one for cortexa9hf_neon, and one for my machine arch): "NOTE: [my image name] do_rootfs: Previous repo file missing: [yocto project path]/build/tmp/work/[arch]/[my image name]/1.0-r0/rpms/cortexa9hf_neon/repodata/primary.xml.gz"18:06
laplanteIs it possible my image recipe is missing a dependency to build the package database(s) or something?18:07
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laplanteMight have a lead: looks like my image recipe overwrote IMAGES_FEATURES which contained (probably) important stuff like ${ROOTFS_PKGMANAGE_BOOTSTRAP}, package-group-coreboot, ${COMMON_INSTALL}, etc... Also was using += instead of _append, contrary to what docs say.18:20
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nefelaplante: as it is a -dev package there should be a FILES_${PN}-dev adding some files, do you add ${PN}-dev to the image ?19:18
laplantenefe: It's the built-in recipe (as of morty) in recipes-support. I don't see any FILES entries, but the packages-split directory shows files in it, so it must be autopackaged or something. The recipe does inherit from autotools.19:22
laplantenefe: Also, I am seeing other packages besides -dev failing in the same way, e.g. shadow. In all cases I've checked so far, the packages exist (in tmp/deploy/rpm) and are not empty (according to packages-split)19:23
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laplantenefe: I appreciate your assistance, by the way :)19:24
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nefelaplante: maybe time to upgrade to rocko :)19:47
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laplantenefe: :) Yeah, I think I found the commit that fixes this: " Generate correct RPM package names again", 01406f8bf69ade6370bcaebbfea4a8747758a15219:49
laplantenefe: "This restores the original functionality so that the19:49
laplanteinstalled-packages.txt files produced by inheriting buildhistory yet19:49
laplanteagain contains a list of the names of the installed packages."19:49
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nefelaplante: et pas de soucis pour le "support" c'est tellement simple tout ça ;)19:57
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laplantenefe: Sorry to disappoint but I had to Google translate that. Despite my last name, I do not in fact speak French :/. And thanks again for the help! :)20:03
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nefeoops :)20:04
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laplantemaybe one day :)20:14
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lsandovrburton: halstead: patchtest is back20:25
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halsteadgarbados, Are you around for a question about ?22:26
halsteadgabrbedd, Do 2 CMD instructions work in the same file now? I'm looking at and it says only the last still. Normally I'd make a wrapper for the 2 commands. But I might be missing something.22:27
halsteadgarbados,  I'm looking at and it says only the last will take effect.. Normally I'd make a wrapper for the 2 commands but I might be missing something.22:29
bluelightninghalstead: it looks to me as if they both should take effect - after all we have a CMD mkdir ... some lines above that22:31
* halstead checks again.22:32
bluelightninghalstead: if the gunicorn command blocks then that would prevent celery from starting though22:32
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bluelightninghalstead: which it probably does :(22:33
bluelightninglooking at the docs I think this does need to be rewritten22:37
halsteadbluelightning, So in my production build I've added, "RUN mkdir /opt/workdir" because the earlier CMD is ignored.22:38
halsteadI'll go ahead and make the wrapper script.22:38
bluelightninghalstead: ok - if you could send me a patch that would be great22:39
halsteadbluelightning, Will do.22:39
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laplanteCan anyone please tell me if the external Linaro support in meta-linaro-toolchain is still supported? It seems to be missing some fundamental things (e.g. TCLIBC conf), and is broken in a variety of ways, at least for Linaro 7.1.1. I've fixed a lot of issues with it (and will submit patches), but still hitting issues.22:44
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bluelightningndec: ^22:50
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bhargavHello! Is there a way to check which recipe provides a particular package?23:05
bhargavFind and grep is not helping me23:06
bluelightningbhargav: oe-pkgdata-util can help but only if the recipe providing the package you're looking for has already been built23:06
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bhargav@bluelightning thanks, let me give that a spin23:07
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lukmaDear All,23:32
lukmaIs there any "autobuilded" toolchain sdk for armv4 ?23:32
lukmajust to download and install ?23:33
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