khem | you are trying it otherway around IMO, you should be first building a distro and then doing post processing for images | 00:15 |
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khem | I would suggest to use distro's packaging as much as you can for your customizations | 00:16 |
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khem | scripts and makefiles easily tend to become hairy over time if not maintained, if I were you I would just try to keep as little customization as possible | 00:16 |
xz | khem: we don't build OS itself. We build everything that happens before OS (for some parts we just take binary blobs) and we take OS from another team as an image | 00:21 |
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khem | xz: I see, you can use something like cmake or good old make | 00:37 |
khem | I would even look into gradle or bazel | 00:38 |
xz | khem: we have around 12 different boards and we need multiple flavors for them. That could be 20+ builds. Majority of stuff between them is shared, but not everything. | 00:40 |
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xz | khem: never heard of gradle or bazel, let me do some research | 00:40 |
khem | it seems all you are looking for is a packaging help | 00:41 |
khem | I think they can help | 00:41 |
xz | khem: I like gradle, that might work | 00:50 |
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xz | khem: seems little similar to bitbake, but much simpler | 00:50 |
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styler2go | Is it possible to create an image with grub installed in it? So that i can just dd it on a stick and it will have grub on it? | 06:27 |
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styler2go | Is this channel dead? :< | 07:09 |
LetoThe2nd | possible: yes, of course. is there a wic script already prepared for this: not sure, might be. | 07:10 |
LetoThe2nd | channel dead: certainly not. but YP has crunch time right now, and its too early for the USians to be awake | 07:11 |
styler2go | Well true, i'm in the "wrong" timezone for questions :P | 07:12 |
LetoThe2nd | have you already looked at the wks scripts that come along with poky? | 07:12 |
styler2go | what do you mean by "wic script"? | 07:13 |
LetoThe2nd | http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.3/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#create-wic-images-wic | 07:14 |
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styler2go | Interesting. I did not hear about this yet but i am a novice in bitbake... | 07:15 |
styler2go | Just to understand: I need a wks file and then wic can create my image? | 07:16 |
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LetoThe2nd | its rather new, right. but basically the way for you to go. yes that *should | 07:16 |
LetoThe2nd | *should* be possible from my understanding | 07:16 |
styler2go | Awesome! Thanks a lot! http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.3/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-a-provided-kickstart-file I think this is already exactly what i need | 07:16 |
LetoThe2nd | if there is a matching kickstart file already around, all is well | 07:17 |
styler2go | One last question: Do i place the wks file in the build/conf/ folder nex to the local.conf? | 07:18 |
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LetoThe2nd | no idea, i know it exists but i don't use it :-P | 07:20 |
styler2go | Haha ok :P I guess i'll just figure it out | 07:20 |
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nayfe | people usually put it in wic folder | 07:22 |
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styler2go | wic tells me Error: Couldn't find HDDDIR, exiting. My receipt only generates ext4 image. How do i enable the hddimage? | 07:53 |
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nayfe | styler2go: which wks do you use ? | 08:04 |
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styler2go | I tried mkefidisk | 08:08 |
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styler2go | Maybe i understand it wrong. I am using wic create mkefidisk -e <the bitbake image i want to have a disk of> | 08:10 |
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styler2go | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10501#c7 Here he fives two possible fixes, i would like to use the first one, enable hddimg. Does anyone know how i enable hddimg again? | 08:15 |
yocti | Bug 10501: normal, Medium, 2.3 M2, eduard.bartosh, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, do_image_wic fails with "Error: Couldn't find HDDDIR, exiting" | 08:15 |
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T_UNIX | hey, I'm trying to package a svn repository that has externals pointing to various `trunk/`s. So bitbake's `svn up` won't see a change. Thus bitbake will reuse the cached source. | 09:04 |
T_UNIX | is there a way to force bitbake to *not* use a cache for a specific package/recipe? | 09:04 |
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LetoThe2nd | T_UNIX: look at what externalsrc does, i'm sure it cn be beaten into shape | 09:05 |
LetoThe2nd | (at the cost of reproductibility, of course.) | 09:05 |
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T_UNIX | LetoThe2nd: thanks. Sounds good. So it won't try to unpack from a previous fetch? | 09:07 |
LetoThe2nd | T_UNIX: externalsrc basically is a "cache nothing, always rebuild" as far as i get it | 09:08 |
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T_UNIX | LetoThe2nd: okay. Cool, thanks. I was just wondering whether the embedding process would be like: "well, you didn't change the recipe, nor the version. So I'll just handle the unpacked cache." | 09:12 |
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nayfe | Do you know if there will be an linux-fslc-imx_4.9 ? | 09:19 |
styler2go | Will wic rebuild the hddimg if there are changes? | 09:19 |
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nayfe | styler2go: if you put IMAGE_FSTYPES = "wic" WKS_FILE = "mkefidisk.wks" it should do it every time i think | 09:46 |
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styler2go | nayfe, that's awesome, thank you | 09:58 |
nayfe | styler2go: np, if i can help ;) | 10:00 |
styler2go | My goal is to create a minimal image completely without busybox, i am using meta/recipes-extended/packagegroups/packagegroup-core-full-cmdline.bb for that | 10:01 |
LetoThe2nd | minimal without busybox sounds kinda contradictional | 10:03 |
styler2go | Well, as minimal as it can get without busybox | 10:03 |
LetoThe2nd | unless you're not replacing busybox with toybox or such | 10:03 |
styler2go | I am not dependend on disk space, only in functionality "minimal" | 10:04 |
LetoThe2nd | then all depends on your defintion of functionality. mind, there is actually no need to have an init system, libraries,.. you don't even need a shell | 10:05 |
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styler2go | LetoThe2nd, isn't "sh" the minimum dependency? | 10:45 |
LetoThe2nd | no, why? | 10:45 |
styler2go | I am trying to create a system which just executes one sh script | 10:47 |
LetoThe2nd | well then your usecase probably depends on sh. but technically, you can totally have a linux system without any kind of sh | 10:47 |
styler2go | That's interesting. You could run a kernel without any kind of "program" in userspace? | 10:48 |
LetoThe2nd | that too, but that would require patching the kernel. | 10:49 |
styler2go | Oh i see | 10:49 |
LetoThe2nd | but even without that, have a single statically linked binary, and init=$YOURBINARY | 10:49 |
LetoThe2nd | done. | 10:49 |
styler2go | Nice | 10:52 |
styler2go | But then i need my own wic script do i? Or is there a VAR für the wic GRUB kernel command? | 10:52 |
LetoThe2nd | given the assumption that your binary has no external dependencies whatsoever, no device nodes, no nothing | 10:52 |
LetoThe2nd | in such a case, one probably would not use OE at all | 10:53 |
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LetoThe2nd | what is the total usecase of this "product" anyways, if one might ask? | 10:55 |
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LetoThe2nd | just "run one script" sounds like the script will have a lot of dependencies anyways. | 10:55 |
styler2go | This very minimal linux was just of theoretical knowledge if it WOULD be possible. | 10:56 |
styler2go | Yes, my script has a lot of dependencies | 10:56 |
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styler2go | I am now trying to run my image but it's behavior is very weird, any idea what could make it that weird? https://p.styler2go.de/9458113 (I am just trying to enter ls+enter) | 11:23 |
LetoThe2nd | is this some serial console? | 11:24 |
styler2go | This is a record of virtualbox window | 11:25 |
styler2go | Same behavior when i run it on a device though | 11:25 |
styler2go | Might be a wrong inittab? | 11:27 |
LetoThe2nd | no idea, ad hoc. it seems to toggle between sh and bash, for reason i don't have a clue | 11:27 |
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JoiF | nrossi: I don't exactly understand "HAS_PLATFORM_INIT" .. it has some names, such as "zynq_microzed_config". And the only corresponding value I can find is the UBOOT_MACHINE in the machine config (/conf/machine/<...>.conf) .. but I don't see how it corresponds to recipes-bsb/platform-init/* | 11:40 |
nrossi | JoiF: HAS_PLATFORM_INIT is for u-boot, it defines that a specific config has platform init files in the u-boot source tree | 11:42 |
nrossi | JoiF: if your using platform-init recipe that provides virtual/platform-init, you don't want to have your config in HAS_PLATFORM_INIT. If it is though (e.g. your using a existing u-boot config but want to provide a custom init) you can use FORCE_PLATFORM_INIT = "1" and it will be ignored | 11:43 |
JoiF | nrossi: Ahh. e.g. ./tmp/work/mud_zynq7-poky-linux-gnueabi/u-boot/1_2017.01-r0/git/board/xilinx/zynq/zynq-microzed/ps7_init_gpl.c | 11:43 |
nrossi | JoiF: yep | 11:44 |
JoiF | nrossi: So, since I have my own, I should actually NOT put my board-thing to HAS_PLATFORM_INIT? | 11:44 |
nrossi | JoiF: Correct | 11:44 |
nrossi | JoiF: HAS_PLATFORM_INIT is just a limitation of not being able to know the content of the source tree at parse time | 11:45 |
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JoiF | But isn't there anything is should do to tell it that it has to pull my own platform-init into the build? Or is that done by default? | 11:47 |
JoiF | When I say "pull my own", I mean use the one I'm supplying in my recipes-bsp/platform-init/... | 11:48 |
nrossi | JoiF: the platform-init recipes PROVIDES virtual/platform-init, u-boot depends on that if you set SPL_BINARY = "spl/boot.bin" and its zynq(mp) | 11:49 |
nrossi | (actually any SPL_BINARY value triggers the depends) | 11:49 |
JoiF | Ok. It should work, then. | 11:50 |
JoiF | (since that's what I'm doing.) | 11:51 |
JoiF | Btw, Anyone here who'll be in Prag on Monday? :p | 11:51 |
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LetoThe2nd | and on sunday, and on tuesday, and on wednesday, and on thursday... | 11:52 |
JoiF | Yay :D | 11:53 |
LetoThe2nd | \m/ | 11:53 |
JoiF | I'm actually going tomorrow .. I'll be staying until Sunday, 29th | 11:53 |
LetoThe2nd | if you see a weirdo with beard wearing a heavy metal shirt, thats me. | 11:53 |
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LetoThe2nd | you're at OEDEM then too? | 11:54 |
JoiF | Haha. You mean.. like everyone at the conference?? ;) Isn't that the stereotype? ;) | 11:54 |
LetoThe2nd | actually, not. seems like elce is really getting close to the classic industry. | 11:55 |
JoiF | No, just ELCE. But my friend lives in Prag and I'm staying with him .. and seeing more of.. Prag. ;) | 11:55 |
LetoThe2nd | a shame | 11:56 |
LetoThe2nd | oedem usually has a pretty good discussion culture | 11:57 |
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JoiF | 09:00 on a Sunday?? Are you guys insane?? ;) | 11:58 |
LetoThe2nd | nobody said we have to show up sober. | 11:58 |
JoiF | Haha | 11:58 |
LetoThe2nd | and insane... yep, probably. | 11:59 |
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JoiF | It looks interesting. But I don't know if I should commit to showing up there in a full capacity. This isn't a thing were you just drop in and sit quietly at the back and listen in, right? | 12:01 |
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JoiF | Naahh.. I should probably stay away from it. I think this is all in quite capable hands ;) | 12:04 |
LetoThe2nd | usually its not for the passive kind, yes. | 12:04 |
LetoThe2nd | and its rather full AFAICS anyways. but i thought i'd ask as i have totally no clue if i already know you or not. | 12:05 |
JoiF | My only "problem" with OE is that my company's mail-spam-filter blocks every other message that comes from the mailing lists. And that's not OE's fault. ;) | 12:05 |
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JoiF | Haha, I understand :) | 12:35 |
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styler2go | Is there some "easy" way to add files to my final image? | 12:58 |
LetoThe2nd | styler2go: the kinda coprrect way is http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#packaging-externally-produced-binaries | 12:58 |
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rburton | styler2go: write recipe to package files, put package in image | 13:02 |
styler2go | hmmm ok | 13:03 |
LetoThe2nd | e.g. RTFM behind given link :) | 13:03 |
styler2go | and then i do_install { install -m 0755 <from> <to> } | 13:03 |
styler2go | yes, i will. thank you :) | 13:06 |
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tasslehoff | Is there a way to exclude a layer or a bbappend depending on which machine I'm building for? | 13:41 |
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LetoThe2nd | tasslehoff: you can certainly limit the effects of the bbappend to specific machines, with the postfix identifiers (orwhattheyrecalled) | 13:42 |
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tasslehoff | LetoThe2nd: I have to build for a variscite board and for sabre. The bluez5_%.bbappend in meta-variscite-fslc demands a variscite-bt.conf no matter what I build. | 13:44 |
tasslehoff | I want to see if I can work around it in my own layer :) | 13:44 |
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tasslehoff | variscite has a u-boot-fw-utils.bb, and there is also a u-boot-fw-utils_2017.01.bb. even if I set a preferred version for my machine, the variscite one is chosen. | 13:57 |
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tasslehoff | Hm. By some magic the version actually becomes 1:v2017.03+gitAUTOINC+b3e7f7518b | 14:15 |
tasslehoff | Probably when including uboot-config | 14:15 |
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nayfe | tasslehoff: maybe a layer priority problem ? | 14:31 |
styler2go | Sometimes bitbake is really frustrating :D | 14:33 |
CTtpollard | s/bitbake/software | 14:33 |
styler2go | Error: exec_cmd: cp /mnt/upboard/build-recovery/tmp/work/up_board-poky-linux/recovery-image/1.0-r0/recovery-image-1.0/hddimg/EFI/BOOT/* /mnt/upboard/build-recovery/tmp/deploy/images/up-board/recovery-image-up-board-20171019142129/build/hdd/boot/EFI/BOOT returned '1' instead of 0 | 14:33 |
styler2go | Any idea what could cause this? | 14:33 |
styler2go | (error message while creating wic) | 14:34 |
rburton | cp set errorcode 1 | 14:34 |
rburton | of course cp doesn't say what the error codes are, so that's no good | 14:34 |
styler2go | ERROR: Function failed: do_image_wic | 14:34 |
LetoThe2nd | styler2go: well its just a cp command. look at both parts of it and try to undertand what might have failed. | 14:35 |
nayfe | path problem i think, as there is a build folder in image deploy folder | 14:35 |
LetoThe2nd | -> is the source there, -> is the destination path there. | 14:35 |
styler2go | oh well.. now it worked after just retrying it for the third time | 14:35 |
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styler2go | Also, this was an automatic process by wic so i don't know how i could check why it didn't have the file/folder/whatever it tried to copy | 14:37 |
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JoiF | nrossi: Not getting those "unable to halt processor" errors anymore, but I get nothing on my serial-console :/ | 14:47 |
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nrossi | JoiF: if you have jtag, check where the PC is, and see if its hung in spl | 14:52 |
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JoiF | nrossi: After loading u-boot.elf? | 14:56 |
JoiF | After I load/download u-boot-spl.bin (which I dd from boot.bin) there's nothing being printed | 14:57 |
nrossi | JoiF: do you get output from SPL? or is it U-Boot that is not doing anything? | 14:57 |
JoiF | No, no output at all | 14:57 |
nrossi | JoiF: then that is where the failure is | 14:58 |
JoiF | pc is at: 00007ddc, 00007de8, 00004a54, 00007de4 .. those are the addresses I see if I continually do "rrd pc" .. it's jumping between something around those parts. But at this point, I haven't loaded u-boot.elf yet. | 15:00 |
JoiF | If I load u-boot.elf it stops at 00000040 | 15:00 |
nrossi | JoiF: thats a exception vector, u-boot-spl has hung by the looks of those addresses | 15:01 |
nrossi | JoiF: looking at a u-boot-spl binary here, 0x7xxx might be serial functions? | 15:05 |
JoiF | Got something now | 15:06 |
JoiF | Now it hangs after displaying "Trying to boot from RAM" | 15:06 |
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nrossi | JoiF: thats normal for a jtag boot, since there is nothing to boot from. You should be able to load u-boot.elf once you've seen SPL get that far | 15:09 |
JoiF | Yes. But still after loading u-boot.elf nothing happens. | 15:10 |
JoiF | I suspect my memory config | 15:10 |
JoiF | Hmm, nope | 15:15 |
JoiF | (as far as I can tell) | 15:15 |
JoiF | Trying to boot from RAMNo valid device tree binary found - please append one to U-Boot binary, use u-boot-dtb.bin or define CONFIG_OF_EMBED. For sandbox, use -d <file.dtb>initcall sequence 04061b90 failed at call 04046a08 (err=-1)### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ### | 15:20 |
nrossi | JoiF: hmmm, is this u-boot.elf? and you have OF_EMBED=y? | 15:22 |
JoiF | I do now. And now u-boot finally works. ;) | 15:23 |
nrossi | JoiF: :) | 15:23 |
JoiF | *high-five* | 15:23 |
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stavro | hi ppl, I have a question regarding building python recipes, so when I run `bitbake python-pyopenssl` I get an error like ERROR: Nothing RPROVIDES 'cpp' (but /builds/release/meta-openembedded/meta-python/recipes-devtools/python/python-pycparser_2.17.bb RDEPENDS on or otherwise requires it) Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['python-pyopenssl', 'python-cryptography', 'python-cffi', 'python-pycparser', 'cpp']. | 16:32 |
stavro | It seems that I need to add cpp somewhere but I am not sure how to do this | 16:32 |
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laplante | stavro: I think gcc should provide cpp. What happens when you do 'bitbake cpp'? Should show gcc RPROVIDES cpp. | 16:35 |
stavro | laplante: I get ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'cpp'. Close matches: mcpp | 16:37 |
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laplante | Hmm seems like your toolchain isn't set up properly then? | 16:38 |
laplante | stavro: What happens when you do 'bitbake gcc'? | 16:40 |
stavro | laplante: I get ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'gcc' ERROR: gcc was skipped: it has an incompatible license: GPL-3.0-with-GCC-exception & GPLv3. Hmm that might be the issue... | 16:42 |
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neverpanic | Yeah, you'll have to come to terms with that particular instance of GPL-3.0 or use clang instead. | 16:49 |
armpit | rburton, or RP do either of you going to run builds today/tonight ? | 16:53 |
RP | armpit: I'm not | 16:54 |
armpit | k | 16:55 |
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aehs29 | rburton: youre the maintainer for initramfs-live-boot, any reason why it RDEPENDS on udev instead of ${VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_dev_manager}? | 17:13 |
aehs29 | rburton: my point is what if I dont want udev but busybox-mdev instead | 17:15 |
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laplante | Can anyone provide some tips on tracking down the source of "do_rootfs: libevdev-dev not found in the feeds"-style errors during image generation? I have confirmed that the RPMs exist (in my case under deploy/rpm/cortexa9hf_neon), and are not empty (as verified with packages_split). At a loss on how to proceed... | 17:30 |
rburton | aehs29: ha, wasn't aware i was ;) the live-boot code uses udevadm etc, so it will expect those commands to exist | 17:31 |
aehs29 | rburton: I use it for poky-tiny, and eudev is bringing about 600 extra KB which is about 45% of the whole userspace anyway | 17:33 |
aehs29 | rburton: So I think I might have to create an init-live-tiny recipe | 17:33 |
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aehs29 | rburton: wait but systemd-udev does provide udevadm as well, why wouldnt it be possible to have initramfs-live-boot + systemd? | 17:37 |
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rburton | aehs29: systemd rprovides udev (you can't build eudev and systemd at the same time) | 17:43 |
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aehs29 | rburton: I see your point, any other suggestions besides creating an init-live for tiny? | 17:45 |
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rburton | aehs29: port init-live away from using udev? presumably not possible. do you really want *live*? they're nonsense. just boot properly. | 17:46 |
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rburton | hands up who actually has write-once media to use live images on | 17:46 |
aehs29 | rburton: its not entierly live, its the tiny-initramfs image, it does work just fine using the same recipe with busybox-mdev instead | 17:46 |
aehs29 | rburton: since it actually drops to shell before anything else happens | 17:47 |
rburton | yeah. split the recipes up? | 17:47 |
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aehs29 | rburton: yeah I dont see any other way thats less intrusive | 17:50 |
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laplante | Regarding my do_rootfs failures, I ran with verbose logging and see a bunch of warnings like this (one for all, one for cortexa9hf_neon, and one for my machine arch): "NOTE: [my image name] do_rootfs: Previous repo file missing: [yocto project path]/build/tmp/work/[arch]/[my image name]/1.0-r0/rpms/cortexa9hf_neon/repodata/primary.xml.gz" | 18:06 |
laplante | Is it possible my image recipe is missing a dependency to build the package database(s) or something? | 18:07 |
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laplante | Might have a lead: looks like my image recipe overwrote IMAGES_FEATURES which contained (probably) important stuff like ${ROOTFS_PKGMANAGE_BOOTSTRAP}, package-group-coreboot, ${COMMON_INSTALL}, etc... Also was using += instead of _append, contrary to what docs say. | 18:20 |
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nefe | laplante: as it is a -dev package there should be a FILES_${PN}-dev adding some files, do you add ${PN}-dev to the image ? | 19:18 |
laplante | nefe: It's the built-in recipe (as of morty) in recipes-support. I don't see any FILES entries, but the packages-split directory shows files in it, so it must be autopackaged or something. The recipe does inherit from autotools. | 19:22 |
laplante | nefe: Also, I am seeing other packages besides -dev failing in the same way, e.g. shadow. In all cases I've checked so far, the packages exist (in tmp/deploy/rpm) and are not empty (according to packages-split) | 19:23 |
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laplante | nefe: I appreciate your assistance, by the way :) | 19:24 |
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nefe | laplante: maybe time to upgrade to rocko :) | 19:47 |
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laplante | nefe: :) Yeah, I think I found the commit that fixes this: "package_manager.py: Generate correct RPM package names again", 01406f8bf69ade6370bcaebbfea4a8747758a152 | 19:49 |
laplante | nefe: "This restores the original functionality so that the | 19:49 |
laplante | installed-packages.txt files produced by inheriting buildhistory yet | 19:49 |
laplante | again contains a list of the names of the installed packages." | 19:49 |
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nefe | laplante: et pas de soucis pour le "support" c'est tellement simple tout ça ;) | 19:57 |
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laplante | nefe: Sorry to disappoint but I had to Google translate that. Despite my last name, I do not in fact speak French :/. And thanks again for the help! :) | 20:03 |
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nefe | oops :) | 20:04 |
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laplante | maybe one day :) | 20:14 |
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lsandov | rburton: halstead: patchtest is back | 20:25 |
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halstead | garbados, Are you around for a question about http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/layerindex-web/tree/Dockerfile#n40 ? | 22:26 |
halstead | gabrbedd, Do 2 CMD instructions work in the same file now? I'm looking at https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/builder/#cmd and it says only the last still. Normally I'd make a wrapper for the 2 commands. But I might be missing something. | 22:27 |
halstead | garbados, I'm looking at https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/builder/#cmd and it says only the last will take effect.. Normally I'd make a wrapper for the 2 commands but I might be missing something. | 22:29 |
bluelightning | halstead: it looks to me as if they both should take effect - after all we have a CMD mkdir ... some lines above that | 22:31 |
* halstead checks again. | 22:32 | |
bluelightning | halstead: if the gunicorn command blocks then that would prevent celery from starting though | 22:32 |
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bluelightning | halstead: which it probably does :( | 22:33 |
bluelightning | looking at the docs I think this does need to be rewritten | 22:37 |
halstead | bluelightning, So in my production build I've added, "RUN mkdir /opt/workdir" because the earlier CMD is ignored. | 22:38 |
halstead | I'll go ahead and make the wrapper script. | 22:38 |
bluelightning | halstead: ok - if you could send me a patch that would be great | 22:39 |
bluelightning | thanks | 22:39 |
halstead | bluelightning, Will do. | 22:39 |
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laplante | Can anyone please tell me if the external Linaro support in meta-linaro-toolchain is still supported? It seems to be missing some fundamental things (e.g. TCLIBC conf), and is broken in a variety of ways, at least for Linaro 7.1.1. I've fixed a lot of issues with it (and will submit patches), but still hitting issues. | 22:44 |
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bluelightning | ndec: ^ | 22:50 |
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bhargav | Hello! Is there a way to check which recipe provides a particular package? | 23:05 |
bhargav | Find and grep is not helping me | 23:06 |
bluelightning | bhargav: oe-pkgdata-util can help but only if the recipe providing the package you're looking for has already been built | 23:06 |
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bhargav | @bluelightning thanks, let me give that a spin | 23:07 |
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lukma | Dear All, | 23:32 |
lukma | Is there any "autobuilded" toolchain sdk for armv4 ? | 23:32 |
lukma | just to download and install ? | 23:33 |
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