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| angelo_ts | hi al, already asked, but maybe today is a better moment: i have 2 apps that needs to use (to link with) 2 different versions of a same library. How would be convenient to manage this in ycoto ? | 08:40 |
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| T_UNIX | hi | 09:46 |
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| T_UNIX | has anybody experienced freezes of bitbake invocation? I.e. `bitbake core-image` takes forever and won't proceed? | 09:47 |
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| mihai | T_UNIX, and eventually times out? | 10:06 |
| mihai | if you're using the same build directory for multiple machine configuration, check the size of the files under ./cache/ | 10:08 |
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| * RP is surprised but pleased to see sumo-next worked | 10:51 | |
| RP | Didn't quite log everything but I've found those missing patches | 10:57 |
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| T_UNIX | mihai: single directory per build. Shared cache and download though. No timeout (not even eventually) :-/ | 11:39 |
| T_UNIX | or maybe it's just takes exceptionally long (compared to all the other parallel builds). | 11:40 |
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| acrap | Hi, folks! | 12:21 |
| acrap | I have an another newbie question :) | 12:21 |
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| acrap | Can I set PREFERRED_VERSION inside a recipe file? Or I have to use it only in configs? | 12:23 |
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| rburton | acrap: setting it inside the recipe wouldn't achieve anything as the selection of versions happens outside of recipes | 12:58 |
| acrap | got it | 12:58 |
| rburton | you're welcome to set it but nothing will change ;) | 12:58 |
| acrap | :) Thanks! | 13:00 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: Adding net-snmp package to poky yocto fails <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53670562/adding-net-snmp-package-to-poky-yocto-fails> | 13:39 |
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| yocti | New news from stackoverflow: am335x evmsk screen init:id"00" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes yocto sumo [closed] <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53523039/am335x-evmsk-screen-initid00-respawning-too-fast-disabled-for-5-minutes-yocto> | 14:09 |
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| yates | is there quick way i can see if a specific PN is in my project without actually runing bitbake PN? | 14:35 |
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| yates | s/runing/running/ | 14:37 |
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| rburton | define project | 14:43 |
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| RP | yates: bitbake -s | grep PN ? | 14:47 |
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| yates | rburton: an endless pit into which money, time, and resources are thrown... | 14:56 |
| yates | RP: close enough - thanks! | 14:56 |
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| RP | How unhelpful: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/37/builds/68/steps/7/logs/step1c :( | 15:58 |
| RP | I'm half tempted to ban assertTrue and friends in our QA code | 15:58 |
| rburton | everyone who introduces a bad assert immediately gets the bug when it fails | 16:02 |
| fray | what I igured out is that assertTrue is only useful if included with a message explinign WHAT you checked | 16:17 |
| fray | in the layerindex checks, I added that stuff to the bitbake tests.. cause after a few weeks I forgot what i was checking | 16:17 |
| kergoth | agreed | 16:18 |
| kergoth | that's one thing i like about pytest, it automatically includes context. i.e. the basic assert example at https://docs.pytest.org/en/latest/ | 16:18 |
| fray | So assertTrue is fine.. but some kind of a check that a message is included is vital | 16:19 |
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| RP | fray: right, that is the real problem. The code is full of it though :( | 16:34 |
| fray | (for those of you following along, but don't know what we're talking aobut.. it's the difference between) | 16:35 |
| fray | elf.assertFalse(self.layerindex.is_empty()) | 16:35 |
| fray | and | 16:35 |
| fray | self.assertFalse(self.layerindex.is_empty(), msg="Layerindex is empty") | 16:36 |
| fray | in the former case you just get an 'assert failed' message, in the later, you get a message that says WHY it failed | 16:36 |
| RP | rburton: something in -next is causing this, its reproducing :/ | 16:36 |
| RP | fray: Its actually worse as people do assertEqual(result.exitcode, 0) and then you never see result.output | 16:37 |
| RP | and its output that would tell you why its failing | 16:37 |
| rburton | RP: next not master? | 16:37 |
| rburton | i hope it doesn't nee libart-lgpl! | 16:38 |
| rburton | need to see the build output | 16:40 |
| rburton | have i mentioned how much i hate that bit of oeqa? | 16:40 |
| rburton | so much that i literally ignored it when writing a new sdk compile test | 16:40 |
| fray | RP yes, I expected that was what you were talking about.. but it's really the same problem.. an assert without ANY info | 16:42 |
| rburton | RP: remember we have from oeqa.utils.subprocesstweak import errors_have_output | 16:42 |
| rburton | we should just monkeypatch that into selftest startup | 16:42 |
| rburton | RP: building a sdk here, i've a hunch i broke this | 16:44 |
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| nate02 | hi | 16:48 |
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| RP | aehs29: around? | 16:50 |
| nate02 | I've built an esdk for my project, but I'm getting a Taskhash mismatch anytime I try and use devtool | 16:51 |
| RP | aehs29: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=df17b1240fbcdae199d944673728e9df965d1002 - If I rerun create_manifest it simply removes that :/ | 16:52 |
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| nate02 | It's not causing a problem except that every devtool operation parse recipes, which really slows down the build cycle. | 16:53 |
| RP | rburton: why on earth do we need that class, its horrific :( | 16:53 |
| rburton | RP: the assimp test i wrote just ignores it, rewriting the galculator test to be the same now. side effect is it just throws an exception with the output in on failure | 16:54 |
| RP | rburton: Surely check_output or similar already does what that does? | 16:55 |
| rburton | RP: no, it doesn't display the output. you need that subprocesstweak to get that output too | 16:55 |
| RP | rburton: I'd swear it does if you have things setup right | 16:56 |
| rburton | all the functions just raise the exception | 16:57 |
| rburton | and that is def __str__(self): | 16:57 |
| rburton | return "Command '%s' returned non-zero exit status %d" % (self.cmd, self.returncode) | 16:57 |
| rburton | kergoth: remember long ago we were talking about automatic transformation of .in files to replace strings like {prefix} | 16:58 |
| rburton | just discovered string.Template which is a cut-down formatting tool that uses $ to markup | 16:58 |
| rburton | but lets you escape easily | 16:59 |
| rburton | so that's almost a better thing to use | 16:59 |
| rburton | especicially as you can change $ to eg @ | 16:59 |
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| RP | rburton: ah, see bb.utils._print_exception() | 17:02 |
| RP | rburton: we hacked it | 17:02 |
| rburton | yay bitbake | 17:03 |
| RP | rburton: I was sure we displayed it, I'd forgotten that was us :) | 17:04 |
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| nate02 | having a problem with my eSDK. It parses recipes ever devtool operation. I assume this is because of the taskhash mismatch error it keeps throwing for do_patch. How do I find the source of this? Using pyro (bitbake 1.34.0) | 17:09 |
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| nate02 | https://pastebin.com/DN2LX7kU | 17:14 |
| rburton | RP: ok why does data_smart's __getitem__ pass false to getVar | 17:14 |
| rburton | that's really annoying for what i was planning to hack up | 17:14 |
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| nate02 | not getting any mismatches when bitbaking or building the SDK only after it's deployed. Have done a full clean build not too long ago... | 17:23 |
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| RP | rburton: as the expand parameter? We always used to default not to expand | 17:45 |
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| RP | JPEW: I merged the persistdb patches as everything seemed fine, then we saw: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/84/builds/61 :/ | 17:49 |
| rburton | RP: sure, but we changed getVar. can we change the dict accessors too | 17:50 |
| RP | rburton: do we actually use them much? | 17:51 |
| rburton | RP: arguably its a nicer way to get the data, and i want to hack up a class that needs dict accessors to the data store | 17:51 |
| RP | rburton: I suspect the answer is we can change but I'd like to understand if/where they're getting used | 17:51 |
| rburton | i can write an adaptor object obviously | 17:51 |
| rburton | huh maybe i should have reverted that binutils change before building a sdk | 17:52 |
| RP | rburton: any luck finding the cause of the sdk failure? | 17:52 |
| rburton | still building! | 17:52 |
| rburton | 98% done | 17:52 |
| rburton | and i've rewritten the test case too | 17:52 |
| RP | rburton: I reran a failed build and it passed but there were other failures | 17:52 |
| rburton | i wonder if it was the tmpdir move | 17:53 |
| RP | halstead: sorry the current build is running into the maint window. It can be stopped if that helps | 17:53 |
| rburton | maybe its deleting stuff too early | 17:53 |
| halstead | RP, It looks like it should finish soon enough. And I have the new hardware to keep me busy. | 17:56 |
| rburton | RP: so something broke rm_work | 17:58 |
| rburton | in that its not rm_working | 17:59 |
| rburton | ok fine it is sometimes | 18:02 |
| RP | rburton: -c populate_sdk by any chance? | 18:02 |
| nate02 | anyone have any tips on tracking down the source of a taskhash mismatch? | 18:05 |
| rburton | RP: yeah i just had that chain of thought. it wasn't doing any cleaning of stuff that had been built | 18:07 |
| rburton | presumably because its all hooking on do_build | 18:07 |
| RP | rburton: right | 18:07 |
| RP | aehs29: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=edef36b0246c5c6196a104fcab80ac2e302f67d6 fixes my problem... | 18:08 |
| RP | apart from annoying trailing whitespace in the json file | 18:08 |
| Crofton | your whitespace obsession is an ongoing concern! | 18:10 |
| JaMa | someone said something about whitespace? :) | 18:12 |
| Crofton | heh | 18:12 |
| * Crofton trolls | 18:12 | |
| Crofton | good day for channel role reversals | 18:12 |
| * JaMa hides behind wall of tabs (and few spaces on top or before that) | 18:12 | |
| Crofton | I should propose a talk on white sapce for the LF leadership thing | 18:13 |
| * JaMa wonders what Trump thinks about tabs | 18:13 | |
| Crofton | OMG | 18:14 |
| * Crofton needs a Trump tweet generator | 18:14 | |
| khem | Crofton: "yocto changes whitespaces" is that good one ? | 18:26 |
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| rburton | RP: autodiscovery of tests is great and all but i think we need a way of saying 'core-image-sato sdk test should be passing these tests' | 18:41 |
| rburton | to catch stuff like galculator suddenly skipping because the sdk changed | 18:41 |
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| JPEW | RP: That's a rather random failure case... | 19:00 |
| JPEW | RP: Ah nevermind, I see the error now. | 19:05 |
| kergoth | rburton, RP: I like dictionary access too, but I don't think the signature generation accounts for dictionary access. you'd have to add everything to vardeps | 19:06 |
| rburton | fixable surely | 19:25 |
| * zeddii_home wonders if there really hasn’t been any oe-core email for 6 or 7 hours. or if my gmail is screwing with me. | 19:29 | |
| kergoth | we can hardcode the assumption that 'd' is a datasmart instance, i suppose. or add alot of false positives, since not everything accessed like a dictionary is a datasmart, and we can't determine that from the ast | 19:30 |
| kergoth | well, not easily | 19:30 |
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| khem | zeddii_home: still have sense of wonder in this social media world... I would suggest go ahead and tweet your frustation out and tag #gmail and #everything-sucks .. come on be one of us.. in the end its not your fault you know | 20:21 |
| khem | I am sick and I am trying to comeup with blaming something/someone for it | 20:22 |
| khem | thumb2 codegen sucks on llvm found another wrong-codegen today | 20:24 |
| zeddii_home | hehe :D | 20:24 |
| zeddii_home | I’m just going to enjoy my oe-core mailing list silence, and check again tomorrow to see if it is empty. I checked the mailing list admin site, and I am still subscribed! | 20:24 |
| khem | I got muted on arm-linux ml because gmail was sending them bounces on my behalf | 20:25 |
| khem | so I unsubscribed completely from arm-linux ml | 20:25 |
| * zeddii_home approves! | 20:26 | |
| zeddii_home | I just mark it all read periodically .. I should do the same. | 20:26 |
| khem | less stuff to delete at the end of day - I have zero mails inbox policy | 20:26 |
| zeddii_home | I have a very short inbox policy as well. it’s my TODO list. and I completely fail on those lists .. so you are right, just unsub and worry about them again if they become a focus. | 20:27 |
| khem | yes, I was talking to Alpine maintainer and it seems all distro folks have to subscribe to so many MLs he was laughing out when I said I subsribe to so many mls | 20:28 |
| khem | there should be more offline webby way to communicate | 20:28 |
| zeddii_home | I can always search for topics if I need them. no need for a gmail copy most of the time. | 20:29 |
| khem | gmane | 20:29 |
| khem | we need gmane-ng | 20:30 |
| zeddii_home | :D | 20:30 |
| khem | https://www.mail-archive.com/ is not as good, I could reply to threads from gmane without subscribing which is ideal for one of discussion | 20:31 |
| khem | Can someone donate CPUs to oe build servers plzzz.. ka6sox was mentioning its going to be < 500 USD | 20:35 |
| khem | Took 21 hr on abaco .. Took 13 hr on kwaj | 20:36 |
| khem | kwaj has new CPUs we need to upgrade other builder | 20:37 |
| khem | I am building on my own machine which is faster than these machines | 20:37 |
| Crofton | They are getting pretty old | 20:44 |
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| khem | raspbian still uses thumb1 ISA wow | 20:51 |
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| JPEW | I use a very complex set of gmail filters... it works most of the time | 21:08 |
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| Crofton | khem, binary compat | 21:12 |
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| khem | Crofton: yeah but it performs really well | 21:20 |
| khem | so I wonder if arm should have just stuck to thumb1 | 21:20 |
| rburton_ | RP: left testsdk running for an hour in a loop, no failures. will throw my rewrite at the AB, if it does fail it has better logging. | 21:26 |
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| JPEW | khem: Having to switch to ARM mode to do something as simple as disabled interrupts is *so* annoying. | 21:29 |
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| aehs29 | RP: ok let me check | 21:34 |
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| JPEW | RP: I sent something that I think will fix that persist_data problem... although I sent it to the wrong mailing list. Doh. | 21:55 |
| JaMa | khem: abaco might be a VM on the same HW as bonaire VM where I'm running LuneOS builds, yes both (all all 3) are rather slow | 21:59 |
| JaMa | and who knows what else is running on those boxes.. | 22:00 |
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| khem | JaMa: I dont think its a VM but who knows | 22:39 |
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| aehs29 | RP: patch coming up for the python issue | 23:46 |
| RP | JPEW: just saw the patch, thanks! | 23:46 |
| RP | aehs29: thanks. I'm curious how far out I was :) | 23:46 |
| aehs29 | RP: pretty far haha | 23:47 |
| aehs29 | RP: this is happening because we use directories on our manifest | 23:48 |
| aehs29 | RP: and its hitting one of those corners where the strings matched where the shouldnt have | 23:48 |
| RP | aehs29: I wondered about that | 23:48 |
| RP | aehs29: I ran out of time to understand what was happening | 23:49 |
| aehs29 | RP: plus sadly I havent had time to maintain the py2 version as much as the py3 | 23:50 |
| aehs29 | RP: yeah the code on py2 is harder to understand | 23:50 |
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